Yonex VCore Pro 97 HD review...

cortado

Professional
It looks like 18x20 (HD) is out of Vcore Pro line tho :eek: There will be just two really fugly looking thick and stiffer models with awkwardly long throat both 16x19 at 310 and 330g. I'll pass and hopefully will be able to grab one more HD at discounted price to have 4 sticks, they will last for a while since I play only on clay now.
BTW, I removed all tape and extra weight from all 3 of my HDs and just use small vibro killers and Tourna dry overgrips [with Head Hydrosorb Pro grips]. Man, oh man, HD is really one frame you can use and enjoy completely in stock form. Last time I had such a feeling was like 15 years ago with Yonex RDS001 Tour 93, 325g. I was playing only on clay back then too.
HD is still in the line, it's just called 'D' now.
 

Strayfire

Rookie
Looks like they changed the molds, from the leaks I've seen around.
Staryfire can comment better on a subject and these new VCore Pro will be available earlier for demoing in AUS.
I'm not demoing anything in the lockdown, sadly.

I was offered but that offer was retracted when the state closed all non-essential retail.

I would argue that a tennis shop is essential but then again I'm not the government. :p
 

alexsoin

Rookie
I'm not demoing anything in the lockdown, sadly.

I was offered but that offer was retracted when the state closed all non-essential retail.

I would argue that a tennis shop is essential but then again I'm not the government. :p
One of the reasons I moved from People's Republic of California to beautiful FREE state of Florida.
Governor Ron DeSantis is the MAN, nothing is closed, no lockdowns, no mask mandates, no vaccine passports and other BS!
 

Strayfire

Rookie
One of the reasons I moved from People's Republic of California to beautiful FREE state of Florida.
Governor Ron DeSantis is the MAN, nothing is closed, no lockdowns, no mask mandates, no vaccine passports and other BS!
To avoid derailing the thread I'm just happy that I can play singles while other sports are shut, but unfortunately, it means no demos for me.

I'm sure others in different places of the world will give you all a rundown on how it plays sooner than I.
 

GummiiBear

Rookie
Yeah though I only held one of the new ones, I feel blindly confident I’ll/I’d want to stick to this one. It might partially be the coloring but I’m generally not one to get too affected my it. Though I guess it is better than the VCORE 2021 line. Definitely don’t like that coloring. But if the beam is thicker, I heard 21 instead of 20, which isn’t too big a deal, I don’t know. I think a thicker beam will serve the 330 really well but not sure about the HD/D.

Had a session with my coach just now, and I hit pretty well today, so I think it partially was a matter of breaking in (? If applicable?) the strings and/or adjusting to the change. When I was younger I wasn’t this sensitive when it came to strings. Maybe it’s... adult neurosis.
 

cortado

Professional
If you look at the string pattern/spacing of the 97 18x20 and the 100 16x19, they seem more similar in the crosses. The bottom cross in particular is situated low in the hoop, compared to the 97 16x19 where the bottom cross is much higher. I've found with the 97 16x19 there's more string movement and often my dampener will fall out on a hard shot.
 

alexsoin

Rookie
If you look at the string pattern/spacing of the 97 18x20 and the 100 16x19, they seem more similar in the crosses. The bottom cross in particular is situated low in the hoop, compared to the 97 16x19 where the bottom cross is much higher. I've found with the 97 16x19 there's more string movement and often my dampener will fall out on a hard shot.
I have a fix for you, cortado https://ibb.co/ySM5k99
I'm passing on these fugly looking VCores anyways... Apart from horrific PJ, HD is so freaking good in all aspects so why mess with perfection and change the molds?!
I remember how two years ago everyone complained about dark green/gold PJ of VCPs and Yonex said "hold my beer for 2021, folks" :)
I love REV in purple btw, gotta buy a set or two to try 'em out!
https://ibb.co/b3zQQbD copying something meh from 30+ years ago, great job, YoYo!
 
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cortado

Professional
I have a fix for you, cortado https://ibb.co/ySM5k99
I'm passing on these fugly looking VCores anyways... Apart from horrific PJ, HD is so freaking good in all aspects so why mess with perfection and change the molds?!
I remember how two years ago everyone complained about dark green/gold PJ of VCPs and Yonex said "hold my beer for 2021, folks" :)
I love REV in purple btw, gotta buy a set or two to try 'em out!
https://ibb.co/b3zQQbD copying something meh from 30+ years ago, great job, YoYo!
I was thinking more I don't understand why the crosses have to start so high up the racquet face on the 97 16x19? I think the 18x20 feels so good because the crosses are much more evenly spread across the racquet face.
 

Strayfire

Rookie
I have a fix for you, cortado https://ibb.co/ySM5k99
I'm passing on these fugly looking VCores anyways... Apart from horrific PJ, HD is so freaking good in all aspects so why mess with perfection and change the molds?!
I remember how two years ago everyone complained about dark green/gold PJ of VCPs and Yonex said "hold my beer for 2021, folks" :)
I love REV in purple btw, gotta buy a set or two to try 'em out!
https://ibb.co/b3zQQbD copying something meh from 30+ years ago, great job, YoYo!
I'm more turned off by the 332 swingweight. I can just barely swing 326.

That's why I don't use any lead on mine. If Yonex really wanted to tempt me they'd reduce SW to say 322 or something.

Also side note: who is going to be able to swing the new 330 with a 338 SW? RF97A is "only" 330 SW.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I'm more turned off by the 332 swingweight. I can just barely swing 326.

That's why I don't use any lead on mine. If Yonex really wanted to tempt me they'd reduce SW to say 322 or something.

Also side note: who is going to be able to swing the new 330 with a 338 SW? RF97A is "only" 330 SW.
Head Gravity Pro is 332, Speed Pro is 329, PT 2.0 is 335, Blade V7 18x20 is 334, and my BP 16x19 was 343 stock (now 354 after mods)... so it's not that much more than lots of others. More will come down to how the weight is distributed within the frame. If it's like the Tour G, then it will be more challenging, but time will tell.
 

cortado

Professional
I'm more turned off by the 332 swingweight. I can just barely swing 326.

That's why I don't use any lead on mine. If Yonex really wanted to tempt me they'd reduce SW to say 322 or something.

Also side note: who is going to be able to swing the new 330 with a 338 SW? RF97A is "only" 330 SW.
Where does it say 332 swing weight?
I've had no problem with 326 (assuming mine is on spec) I actually added 1g each side between top cross and the cross below (so roughly 10 and 2).
 

cortado

Professional
Where does it say 332 swing weight?
I've had no problem with 326 (assuming mine is on spec) I actually added 1g each side between top cross and the cross below (so roughly 10 and 2).
Ah sorry just seen on tennis-only.
That sounds perfect to me if I can get some on spec. No need to add lead!
 

cortado

Professional
So the new D is thicker, clumsier, stiffer, with higher SW and ugly[ier] than HD. Kinda triple NO-NO-NO from me. And I can swing 345-350 no problem!
I'm definitely going to try it. I think with on-spec swing-weight and theoretically just a touch stiffer it could be my perfect racquet.
 

GummiiBear

Rookie
So the new D is thicker, clumsier, stiffer, with higher SW and ugly[ier] than HD. Kinda triple NO-NO-NO from me. And I can swing 345-350 no problem!
The only changes that pique my curiosity are whatever blah-blah they’ve done to the throat but aside from that, I feel like the more I hear, the less appealing the 97D sounds. I think the one that’ll feel [notably] improved is the 97H, but I’m speaking from a I-don’t-know-what-I-am-talking-about viewpoint.

I wonder why the 97D is more expensive than the others, though...
 

mctennis

Legend
I would like too see the reviews he does. I am using the 97HD 18X20. It will be interesting to see if the " improved" version is really improved. So tired of the hype form all the racquet, string, and shoe manufacturers with their " improved' versions of their products when they are usually a big " nothing". When it is all tested out.
 

JW89

New User
Tennis nerd review video is up and he thinks the HD version is the least improved of the new VCP lineup, seems to allude that it’s not an improvement at all actually.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
It looks like 18x20 (HD) is out of Vcore Pro line tho :eek: There will be just two really fugly looking thick and stiffer models with awkwardly long throat both 16x19 at 310 and 330g. I'll pass and hopefully will be able to grab one more HD at discounted price to have 4 sticks, they will last for a while since I play only on clay now.
BTW, I removed all tape and extra weight from all 3 of my HDs and just use small vibro killers and Tourna dry overgrips [with Head Hydrosorb Pro grips]. Man, oh man, HD is really one frame you can use and enjoy completely in stock form. Last time I had such a feeling was like 15 years ago with Yonex RDS001 Tour 93, 325g. I was playing only on clay back then too.
http://instagr.am/p/CSKFboZjaRv/
Comments are saying H = 330 and D = the 18x20 so it’ll now be called a 97D
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Tennis Nerd reacted to the innovate HD/D favourably last year, and less favourably this year simply because it's more of the same. He liked the lighter frame more mainly because he got a high SW exemplar.
 

GummiiBear

Rookie
I would like too see the reviews he does. I am using the 97HD 18X20. It will be interesting to see if the " improved" version is really improved. So tired of the hype form all the racquet, string, and shoe manufacturers with their " improved' versions of their products when they are usually a big " nothing". When it is all tested out.
I think what has me more interested is the new lavender color option for the Poly Tour Rev, which is a string I’ve been curious about. :p
 

Strayfire

Rookie
Tennis nerd review video is up and he thinks the HD version is the least improved of the new VCP lineup, seems to allude that it’s not an improvement at all actually.
He said that it was 4-5SW more than the TW spec of 332 which is bad enough. So that means 336-337 SW on his frame. Ouch.

I cannot swing that. Pass.

310 looks like the pick for me in the 2021 generation.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
TW has revised the SW for the 330g (H) up to 343 from 338... and the 320g (D) down to 330 from 332.

If the VCP 97H ends up having a 343 SW, much will depend on the material distribution. It has the potential to be a real beast.

Well... we always go on about how we want racquets that are similar to the Pros. I guess Yonex is challenging us on that front... it might not be the 95D... but it might have Stan-like specs... GAME ON!
 
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Paint Job looks pretty vintage on the new Vcore racquets - definitely my kind of style! The modern paint jobs of Wilson, Babolat etc as of late just don’t gell with me.
 

alexsoin

Rookie
Nope, HD ment High Density. That's why nothing changed spec wise - or maybe a slightly more open 18x20?
The specs are actually different, it’s a new mold: thicker, stiffer and with higher SW and redesigned throat/handle. And yes, 18x20 pattern looks more open on new D.
 

McEncock

Semi-Pro
I was saying that static weight did not change even if the "H" was removed from the "HD" because "H" ment high
The only correlation beteween the new nomenclatura and the actual racquet should be a slighlty more open string pattern
 

alexsoin

Rookie
All this talk of Tennisnerd not liking the new D as much as the previous HD, he didn't really like the HD either. His review was pretty meh for that one.
I think an HD with slightly higher swing-weight sounds great.
He's playing like 4.0 level, what are you expecting?! You gotta be a beast to properly swing 340+ SW frames...
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Interesting. They all prefer this one to the regular 310, while tennisnerd didn't care for the D
That's why it's important to try the racquet for yourself. Nobody is right or wrong about any racquet, they are just telling you their opinion (which is 100% right for them). It may match your impressions and findings or it may differ. That still doesn't make the racquet good or bad... just right for you or wrong for you.

It's all personal.
 

galapagos

Professional
That's why it's important to try the racquet for yourself. Nobody is right or wrong about any racquet, they are just telling you their opinion (which is 100% right for them). It may match your impressions and findings or it may differ. That still doesn't make the racquet good or bad... just right for you or wrong for you.

It's all personal.
Or... one was lucky with SW Quality control and another not so much :)
 

galapagos

Professional
I think you missed what I was trying to say... but that's OK.

In summary... it doesn't matter what someone else thinks about a racquet (or anything else really), it matters what you (the person trying it) think.
I got you :) of course you are right. Just pointing out that in this case we might be talking about liking specs and not the racquet. You might demo the racquet in a store, then purchase new one and end up disliking „the racquet” because of the specs you got.
Tennisnerd didnt get the chance to really test the racquet.
 
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