Yonex VCore Pro 97 HD review...

I don't have a complete answer, I ordered it with 50lbs and that seems to be great, really, but I haven't tried other tensions. I don't think it needs to be dropped down so much as others have mentioned on here and I myself have used the HD with a full Hyper G (Solinco) bed at 47lbs. After about 4 hitting sessions the 50lbs tension isn't something I think about at all, so it must be working pretty well.
 

galahad

Rookie
I taught that HD is more flexible ,wery disappointed
It would be hard to imagine a more flexible racquet...its got an RA of 59, but if you use a full bed of Biphase - technifibre strung at 50 lbs...It would be hard to consider a more plush feeling frame
 

Kurt0707

Rookie
I also think it's somewhat related to the strings - even 55RA racquets like Prince Phantoms can feel stiff if strung high with syngut or poly. But even with a soft string I agree that HD doesn't feel as plush as other rackets (e.g. Vcore 95 / Lime / DR 98 all with around RA62) probably due to its thinner beam, materials and how it flexes. Probably a thin plush racket may also not play very well, for advanced players at least from control aspect. But HD is very comfortable though with very low vibration.
 

rossignol

Rookie
It would be hard to imagine a more flexible racquet...its got an RA of 59, but if you use a full bed of Biphase - technifibre strung at 50 lbs...It would be hard to consider a more plush feeling frame
With Biphase all racquets are comfortable,for example Head prestige tour 600(58 Ra,HD 59,day and night different) feel in Yonex shape wauuu wining combo
 
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Been seeing a lot of these of the sales board. For the people who’ve decided this racquet wasn’t a good fit, what was your major issue with it?
I went away from it and came back, started vcore 330, bought an HD, sold the HD, got a 330 again, realized I liked the more head light balance and am back to the HD. For me the balance is great and the control of the HD is great.

Strings are probably causing casual players issues, like those that might play 1-2 times a week and aren't into string testing. I'm playing 5-6 times a week and didn't mind sampling strings.

Full poly is ok, but you better go into the 40-45 pound range, if a casual player didn't do that they would probably give up on the racket because a higher tension would require roid rage strength to get power. I switched to full natural gut and the control is amazing, power is good enough, it's not a pure drive or anything, but I can do many things with pinpoint control that I can't do with power, like win 90% of points with control and I can only overpower those I play rarely, so it's better.

That's a longwinded way of saying I bet casual non-string switchers probably bought one and put whatever setup they had in another racket in this and were befuddled. Then, maybe there are some 5.0 and 5.5 players with very modern games that tried it and gave up (but I doubt that is the majority), because they can wield a lighter modern stick with more devastation or a heavier stick like a weighted up Utra or the rf or vcore pro 330.

If you get the strings right and settle in with this racket, it's a fantastic head light, yet very stable, super high control volley magic machine. I'm not sure there is a ton of benefit for baseliners or power serve/forehand players or players that need power for the serve of like to close their eyes and launch flat balls that may or may not go in (I'm talking to you, the 4.0-4.5 pure drive maniacs).

The other area it shines in is comfort, but I think all the Yonex sticks have comfort.
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
I went away from it and came back, started vcore 330, bought an HD, sold the HD, got a 330 again, realized I liked the more head light balance and am back to the HD. For me the balance is great and the control of the HD is great.

Strings are probably causing casual players issues, like those that might play 1-2 times a week and aren't into string testing. I'm playing 5-6 times a week and didn't mind sampling strings.

Full poly is ok, but you better go into the 40-45 pound range, if a casual player didn't do that they would probably give up on the racket because a higher tension would require roid rage strength to get power. I switched to full natural gut and the control is amazing, power is good enough, it's not a pure drive or anything, but I can do many things with pinpoint control that I can't do with power, like win 90% of points with control and I can only overpower those I play rarely, so it's better.

That's a longwinded way of saying I bet casual non-string switchers probably bought one and put whatever setup they had in another racket in this and were befuddled. Then, maybe there are some 5.0 and 5.5 players with very modern games that tried it and gave up (but I doubt that is the majority), because they can wield a lighter modern stick with more devastation or a heavier stick like a weighted up Utra or the rf or vcore pro 330.

If you get the strings right and settle in with this racket, it's a fantastic head light, yet very stable, super high control volley magic machine. I'm not sure there is a ton of benefit for baseliners or power serve/forehand players or players that need power for the serve of like to close their eyes and launch flat balls that may or may not go in (I'm talking to you, the 4.0-4.5 pure drive maniacs).

The other area it shines in is comfort, but I think all the Yonex sticks have comfort.
Curious what tension do you string your Gut at on the HD?
 

Overheadsmash

Professional
I have this stick. Babolat gut 16 in the mains, Vokyl V-Pro 18 in the crosses. 52 lbs. Very controllable, great power, very plush feeling. Good weight and does not get pushed around. Good at re-directing pace. Need to hit it on right on the dime though.

Did not like this stick with a full bed of poly. The gut makes it. Play a lot of 4.0 doubles with it.
 

Kurt0707

Rookie
Totally agree that with full poly above 45, it requires substantial effort.. i now swithed to guy/poly from default poly string it came with, and will try it.. full gut or multi is also interesting option and would work for this tight spaced frame... curious what other options you have tried before you settled on pure gut? Thx
 

Skybeamer

New User
I play the HD since it was released. I have two setups which fits my variable game plan best. First setup (the every day setup) is Head Lynx 1,20mm 48lbs in the mains and Discho Techno ACE 1,30mm 48lbs in the crosses. Good power level, good control, good touch and a really good playing comfort. Spin level is okay.
Second setup (come get some setup) is Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 1,23mm 47lbs in the mains and Discho Techno ACE 1,30mm 47lbs in the crosses. Very high spin level, good touch, enough power and the comfort is still okay.
As I'm a mid 40 ager I've played over a very long period the Head Radical MP with 18×20 pattern and I've ridden a long material journey to put my game to a more modern playing style (more spin, less backswing). My material transition went from Yonex EZON DR 98 to Yonex VCORE Duel G over to Yonex VCORE PRO 97 which were all great rackets for control oriented players. But after I heard that Yonex will relrelease the HD with 18x20 pattern everything was clear to me.
Bought it, played it, found the best fitting setups, loved it. Best racket for me (at the moment;-)).
 
I tried Solinco Hyper G at 50 lbs and a Yonex Poly at 46. I then had a revelation, maybe, I don't break strings very often, never poly. I started reading that some people use poly and use poly/natural gut to prolong string life. Well, I'm not macho enough to hide the fact that my play style just doesn't bust strings that quickly, I don't have a modern forehand and my one hander doesn't torture strings either, I learned to play in the early 80's as a kid and I suppose my game isn't that style. Maybe I'm a wimpy player, who knows, but I do hit pretty hard and play 4.5 in competition, practice with 5.0 and open players.

Anyway, I am a bit of an economics nerd, trying to maximize strengths, I figured if I don't break strings then why not go full gut. Seems most avoid it because of cost of restringing. Well, I like it a lot, very control oriented, good power, and super smooth feel. Worth a try if you haven't ever done it.
 

galahad

Rookie
I tried Solinco Hyper G at 50 lbs and a Yonex Poly at 46. I then had a revelation, maybe, I don't break strings very often, never poly. I started reading that some people use poly and use poly/natural gut to prolong string life. Well, I'm not macho enough to hide the fact that my play style just doesn't bust strings that quickly, I don't have a modern forehand and my one hander doesn't torture strings either, I learned to play in the early 80's as a kid and I suppose my game isn't that style. Maybe I'm a wimpy player, who knows, but I do hit pretty hard and play 4.5 in competition, practice with 5.0 and open players.

Anyway, I am a bit of an economics nerd, trying to maximize strengths, I figured if I don't break strings then why not go full gut. Seems most avoid it because of cost of restringing. Well, I like it a lot, very control oriented, good power, and super smooth feel. Worth a try if you haven't ever done it.
putting natural gut in any frame definitely adds to it in all those qualities. I'm wondering if this particular frame needs any other softening though. It is pretty flexible. My interest is to get a little more ball pocketing, so may try reducing tension from 53 to 50 or 49...I can't imagine using Poly in any frame, so it will probably be a full bed of NRG a pretty soft string already
 
Sure, I'm not using gut for any softening effect, it's actually just really nice, control plus power. But, I spoke too soon, starting to fray a bit after 6 sessions. Still, it works great, better than synthetic gut. I would only choose natural gut or poly from now on for my rackets, it's worth the cost.
 

phl92

Semi-Pro
Hey guys,
I demoed the VCore 98 (305) a while ago and liked it quite a lot, especially on my OH-BH. I would like to play some other Yonex sticks as well. Do you think I would like the 18x20 HD or should I rather test the Vcore Pro 310? I read that the Vcore 98 has more power and stability than the Vcore 310, but what about the HD?
 

alpenglo

Rookie
Really deep pocketing like classic HEAD or completely different?

More manoeuvrable would mean less weight in the throat?
Dang it, what does "deep pocketing" mean?? Sorry if this is obvious to everyone else. TW reviews with terms like this and "point and shoot" drive me nuts because they don't seem to mean anything! Seriously, I'd love a good definition if you have one.
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
Dang it, what does "deep pocketing" mean?? Sorry if this is obvious to everyone else. TW reviews with terms like this and "point and shoot" drive me nuts because they don't seem to mean anything! Seriously, I'd love a good definition if you have one.
Basically means that the string bed deforms a lot more upon impact. Therefor the ball stays on the string bed longer creating a nice plush feel
 

alpenglo

Rookie
Basically means that the string bed deforms a lot more upon impact. Therefor the ball stays on the string bed longer creating a nice plush feel
Thanks for the quick response! Sorry to sound nitpicky (or worse), but how can you tell the string bed is "deforming a lot more" when the ball strike takes place in single-digit milliseconds? Is it just the feel? And if the stringbed does deform a lot isn't that more a function of string tension and stiffness? I would really like to know so I can identify what I like in various racquets. I have an IG Prestige Pro strung with 16ga Hurricane Pro that *feels* great. But why? What's it doing? Maybe it's just the wonderful "pock" sound and all the rest is in my head. I also have a Clash 100 (weighted-up to 335 SW) strung with Tour Bite that is super-stable, powerful, and has almost no "feel" at all (and certainly no "pock"). And then a Gravity Pro that has some of the Prestige's feel, plenty of power and stability, but is clearly more rubbery and somehow less satisfying on impact. This feels like trying to describe wine!
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the quick response! Sorry to sound nitpicky (or worse), but how can you tell the string bed is "deforming a lot more" when the ball strike takes place in single-digit milliseconds? Is it just the feel? And if the stringbed does deform a lot isn't that more a function of string tension and stiffness? I would really like to know so I can identify what I like in various racquets. I have an IG Prestige Pro strung with 16ga Hurricane Pro that *feels* great. But why? What's it doing? Maybe it's just the wonderful "pock" sound and all the rest is in my head. I also have a Clash 100 (weighted-up to 335 SW) strung with Tour Bite that is super-stable, powerful, and has almost no "feel" at all (and certainly no "pock"). And then a Gravity Pro that has some of the Prestige's feel, plenty of power and stability, but is clearly more rubbery and somehow less satisfying on impact. This feels like trying to describe wine!
String type, string tension, and racquet flex all play a part in a way. Unless you have a slow-mo camera, it is hard to see with the eye.But you will feel it definitely. You could take a very low flex racquet and string with natural gut at a low tension and take a stiff racquet and string with a harsh poly at a high tension....you would feel the ball-pocketing difference. I know that is examples at the opposite end of the spectrum, but hopefully that shows the difference in feel between racquets and strings. You could also string that same stiff racquet with low tension gut and would feel a difference as well.
 

tennissocall

New User
Finally got to hit with mine for the first time last night. All I can say is I love this racquet! The feel on contact is just fantastic and it’s way more maneuverable than the specs would indicate. I was also pretty surprised how much power it had. Currently using a gut/poly hybrid at 53/50 but that feels a bit low. Next time I’ll probably go with my usual 58/55 setup to tame the power a little. Really looking forward to hitting with this stick more in the coming months. It has officially replaced my VCORE Pro 330.
Is a lot less powered than the 330 and is the launch angle much lower than 330? Heard the string spacing is almost identical between the 2! Was very curious about it this since I play lastnyears model 330 and king attune switching to this denser string pattern! Thanks
 

spoonfed

New User
Added some leather today. Anxious to see how it plays now.
How did that leather grip work out for you? I am thinking of putting one on one of my two HDs. They've been my main racquets for the last six months, strung with YPTP @ 46 lbs. Not sure I've got the game for it, but fortune favors the brave.
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
How did that leather grip work out for you? I am thinking of putting one on one of my two HDs. They've been my main racquets for the last six months, strung with YPTP @ 46 lbs. Not sure I've got the game for it, but fortune favors the brave.
I loved the leather added. Of course I add leather to most of my racquets, but I believe you would enjoy on the HD
 

spoonfed

New User
I loved the leather added. Of course I add leather to most of my racquets, but I believe you would enjoy on the HD
Nice to hear. I used to add leather to all my frames as well, but I've been trying to keep them as light as possible lately. And since Yonex has such thin base grips, they bulk up when adding most leather grips. But I'm gonna try it anyway - and end the overgrip short and pretend that I can groove like Stan the Man.
 

marciojl

New User
I played only 3 times with my HD. At the end of the first section I was not very excited about the result, I expected more after so many positive reviews. I haven't used HD for a week. Then something strange happened, I found the perfection that I had been looking for. I don't know if the tension go down well, but I could put the ball wherever I wanted, both with spin and flat.
Service was with decent power and great direction, perfect slice. As has been analyzed before, very demanding but delivers everything that promises. In the second set I couldn't keep the level. I need to improve my cardio :p.
 

CroPlayer

New User
I played with gravity pro, unfortunately with 345sw it was too heavy for me after 3 sets. After that I bought two vcore pro hd and I've been playing with them for half a year and I have to admit that I am very satisfied. I can play for three hours without any problems.In my opinion it is best to play between 20 and 22 kg. I prefer hyper g 1.20mm

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DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I played with gravity pro, unfortunately with 345sw it was too heavy for me after 3 sets. After that I bought two vcore pro hd and I've been playing with them for half a year and I have to admit that I am very satisfied. I can play for three hours without any problems.In my opinion it is best to play between 20 and 22 kg. I prefer hyper g 1.20mm

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Excellent string choice for that racquet. It also suits fine to the new V7 Blades. I am gonna test HD with strike 1.25 and i am thinking to string it at 21/20kg. I found 310 version to lack power and it was too underpowered outside sweet spot but my friends persuaded me that HD is a different beast and it has plenty of spin and also better feel/feedback. Tomorrow i will try 330 version too.

As for gravity pro it’s a great solid mold but all the cons stop there. No character at all. It’s very muted for my taste (no plush and flexy at all) and the high SW make it even more cumbersome than Blade.
 

CroPlayer

New User
Excellent string choice for that racquet. It also suits fine to the new V7 Blades. I am gonna test HD with strike 1.25 and i am thinking to string it at 21/20kg. I found 310 version to lack power and it was too underpowered outside sweet spot but my friends persuaded me that HD is a different beast and it has plenty of spin and also better feel/feedback. Tomorrow i will try 330 version too.

As for gravity pro it’s a great solid mold but all the cons stop there. No character at all. It’s very muted for my taste (no plush and flexy at all) and the high SW make it even more cumbersome than Blade.
Of all the wires I've tried, in the end I always go back to Hyper G. Even Pure Aero behaves great with 1.20, although I break them after 6 hours but the racket is very comfortable with them at 22/24kg. Next time I will try stringway tension advisor. According to him, the cross should have more tension in 18x20 string pattern. So 20.8/22.5 kilos next time


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galahad

Rookie
I've hit with the 97 HD vcore pro at least a dozen times. I'm coming from an old Lime Ezone DR98(16x19). The ball pocketing on this Vcore Pro HD feels virtually non-existent. I've lowered the tension now to 48, and still feels like a board. I'm going to try 45 this week. The launch angle and weighting are totally different.
if you are counting on bringing the head of this frame quickly through the hitting zone, forget it. Especailly compared to the Ezone...the balance is completely different.May be more stable for returns, but has taken 5-15 MPH off my serve, and limits the spin I can generate, both due to the tight string pattern, and not being able to bring the frame through the zone quickly.

looking to make a move if someone wishes to purchase two 4 3/8ths frames let me know...9/10 condition
 

CroPlayer

New User
I've hit with the 97 HD vcore pro at least a dozen times. I'm coming from an old Lime Ezone DR98(16x19). The ball pocketing on this Vcore Pro HD feels virtually non-existent. I've lowered the tension now to 48, and still feels like a board. I'm going to try 45 this week. The launch angle and weighting are totally different.
if you are counting on bringing the head of this frame quickly through the hitting zone, forget it. Especailly compared to the Ezone...the balance is completely different.May be more stable for returns, but has taken 5-15 MPH off my serve, and limits the spin I can generate, both due to the tight string pattern, and not being able to bring the frame through the zone quickly.

looking to make a move if someone wishes to purchase two 4 3/8ths frames let me know...9/10 condition
What string are you playing with?
Are these both rackets within the factory specifications?

It is quite sensitive to strings and to the tension strength. I tried to string it by the stringway method, and i have to admit it was even more comfortable for me to play. I find it strange that you said that your strength on serving is weak, it is one of the strongest rackets for me, and let's say I also play with a pure aero racquet. All in all, try some more with soft strings, because the racquet is really great and I think he deserves to be given another chance with softer strings and lower tension.



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I've hit with the 97 HD vcore pro at least a dozen times. I'm coming from an old Lime Ezone DR98(16x19). The ball pocketing on this Vcore Pro HD feels virtually non-existent. I've lowered the tension now to 48, and still feels like a board. I'm going to try 45 this week. The launch angle and weighting are totally different.
if you are counting on bringing the head of this frame quickly through the hitting zone, forget it. Especailly compared to the Ezone...the balance is completely different.May be more stable for returns, but has taken 5-15 MPH off my serve, and limits the spin I can generate, both due to the tight string pattern, and not being able to bring the frame through the zone quickly.

looking to make a move if someone wishes to purchase two 4 3/8ths frames let me know...9/10 condition
I play with Vcore Pro HD and the Ezone DR. Regarding your experiences, the balance on the HD and DR are very similar. The DR does swing through the hitting zone a little easier, but I believe that's more the result of the 10 grams of less static weight of the DR versus the HD. This is most likely why you are not getting the same power on your serve, as you may not be able to comfortably generate the same swing speed with the HD.

The HD frame should not feel like a board. If it does, then you need it string it much lower. The HD probably needs to be strung 4 lbs lower than the DR, and if you are wanting to get a similar launch angle, I'd recommend dropping the tension on the HD even lower. Also, if you hit high up in the string bed, then the HD is going to feel especially less responsive if the tension is too high (I started stringing my top 3 to 4 crosses looser to open up the string bed feel more). If you get the tension right, it should improve the ball pocketing you say you aren't getting. Note, though, even if you go from 48 to 45 lbs, you probably won't tell a difference the first time you hit if you are using poly strings for your mains or full poly set up...you'll need a few hours of hitting for the strings to loosen up- fresh string jobs can usually feel tight and boardy the first time out depending on how it is strung and the string being used. Polys need a little bit of hitting time to loosen up to feel comfortable. I'd almost say you'd be better off going to 42 lbs (versus 45 lbs you say you want to try from the 48 lbs). That may seem extreme but should definitely be enough of a tension drop so you can finally feel a difference.
 

galahad

Rookie
I have it strung with technifibre NRG. I had used my Ezone at 50 lbs...and having found the HD Vcore unplayable at 50, strung it at 46. still feels very tight. I don't use Poly. The balance feels less head light than the ezone, so its much more difficult to impart spin, as I said. I can try 42 I guess
 
I have it strung with technifibre NRG. I had used my Ezone at 50 lbs...and having found the HD Vcore unplayable at 50, strung it at 46. still feels very tight. I don't use Poly. The balance feels less head light than the ezone, so its much more difficult to impart spin, as I said. I can try 42 I guess
I would have thought a multi at 4 lbs less would have been comparable and should provide ample pocketing and feel. I doubt the difference in the balance point is creating your spin issue, as that is most likely a function of possibly less swing speed from the higher static weight, and the launch angle difference from the open to closed string pattern. For me, the DR is definitely more maneuverable and a faster swinging stick, whether that's from the lower static weight or how the frame is weighted or something else, I can't be sure. But the lack of a pocketed feel you are experiencing with your Vcore Pro HD is very odd. Keep reducing tension till you get the feel to where you like it. However, you may just need to stick to your DR. Maybe we'll be fortunate and Yonex will bring the line back one day!
 

chinny562

New User
I've demo'd the racket but I didn't like it as much as I thought..
It felt too stiff for my liking..
I love the color on it though!
 

PD1978

Rookie
I do agree that it’s a bit “boardy”. I string mine with gut/poly at 50/48. But I find all Yonex racquets have that character to some degree.
 

galahad

Rookie
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I do agree that it’s a bit “boardy”. I string mine with gut/poly at 50/48. But I find all Yonex racquets have that character to some degree.
I've played with Yonex since the RD-7. Played the RDX-500, and many others since...I've NEVER felt like I was using a racquet that had a piece of balsa wood instead of strings before. The frame is plush, and flexible, no issues there. but its completely different than any other I've tried
 

Kurt0707

Rookie
After restringing, gut/poly at 52/48lbs, have been playing a couple of weeks now. Thin gauge string really helped with the launch angle. I also play with Blade v7, and similar setup felt mushy while on this it gave a nice comfortable feeling, not boardy at all, also aids in power. Also added a few grams on hoop. I feel it elevates and further improves my game since it requires more concentration and better technique to play effectively, so I plan to stick to this for a while, only weakness I have is return of serve for hard hitters, and maybe it needs little more weight on the hoop and more practice... curious on others weight distribution on hoop - planning on 1gr each at 2/5/7/10.
 

PD1978

Rookie
how does it compare to Head gravity pro in general, which one you prefer?
They very different. The GP I find to be more plush. But it’s tiring to use. The HD is heavy but it’s balance is really nice for me. I don’t feel it’s weight in the wrong place to tire me out. I struggle on my serve with the GP as well.
I’ve actually been using the Gravity Tour mostly lately due to a sore shoulder.

the HD is my favorite racquet but it does challenge me but I appreciate that, cause I focus on my game more. But I need to stick to one racquet lol.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
I've just procured two of these sticks. I'm returning to the game after a fair bit of a hiatus and I first tried one of the newer Head Prestige MPs and just didn't groove with it.

My question is in regard to strings. I've previously used full poly and I prefer a full bed of one string as opposed to a hybrid.

I was looking to start with Solinco Hyper G at 50lbs. Any reason that wouldn't work in this frame? Other recommendations?
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
I've just procured two of these sticks. I'm returning to the game after a fair bit of a hiatus and I first tried one of the newer Head Prestige MPs and just didn't groove with it.

My question is in regard to strings. I've previously used full poly and I prefer a full bed of one string as opposed to a hybrid.

I was looking to start with Solinco Hyper G at 50lbs. Any reason that wouldn't work in this frame? Other recommendations?
I would string it up identical to what you are accustomed to, then you will have a good reference to your previous frame to base opinions on.

What was your previous frame? The Vcore Pro mains are a similar length to a midsize frame in any other brand so that will factor in.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
I would string it up identical to what you are accustomed to, then you will have a good reference to your previous frame to base opinions on.

What was your previous frame? The Vcore Pro mains are a similar length to a midsize frame in any other brand so that will factor in.
Like I mentioned, I'm coming back after a hiatus. But, my last main frame was the Head Youtek IG Prestige Mid.

I've been hitting with different MP size frames since coming back though.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Like I mentioned, I'm coming back after a hiatus. But, my last main frame was the Head Youtek IG Prestige Mid.

I've been hitting with different MP size frames since coming back though.
I would string lower. 45-48. Hyper G should be good in it though. It’s really a sweet frame.
 
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