Yonex Vcore Pro 97

rossignol

Rookie
Those are the published tolerances, but historically Yonex has been pretty spot-on with their specs. My Pro 97 is the first Yonex I've ever bought that was off by more than 2 grams. What's strange is that this first batch of 330's and 310's have all been close to 5 grams underweight according to reports. Don't think I've ever seen that before.
Me neither
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Me neither
I’ve ordered multiple rackets before without matching service because you could bank on the Yonex QC. With the 330 I was actually fine with it coming in on 325 grams. Balance and SW were bang on, and if I go with that frame I’ll probably match on the spec as well.
 
The paint is similar to the RF but in my opinion a lot less rubbery/grippy which is great because I find it too grippy on the RF.

I personally think the paintjob durability has somewhat improved from previous versions because although it scratches easily, there seems to be a thin layer of film/plastic over the actual paint instead of scratching the paint directly. I once left my keys in the bag with my racquets and the surface is all scratched but it didn't scratch the paint underneath. I also had my other vcore dropped on asphalt and it did chip off the paint on 2 areas exposing the graphite. So overall, it's not really the paint that has improved but the thin film on top has made it abit more durable, a bit more scratch resistant


When I ordered my Vcore Pro's from my friend, he said he was awaiting shipment from Japan so regardless of whether they outsource it, they finish the racquet in Japan.
Yeah, I actually find the paint on the RF97 doesn't feel as nice as it could. Like it's velvety but it's not smooth enough. Not like on the box for an iPhone. The newer ones feel thicker though, which I like.

That's good, I was hoping it'd feel similar if they're gonna have that less durable paint on top. I'd normally like both to be scratch-resistant as well though unfortunately. It just bugs me on the RF when the shiny black paint shows through after scratches. Unless if I bought a used one that already had a few.

The paint is weird, both hard and fragile. I’ve had two occasions where my partner and I both went for a volley and our rackets clashed and sounded pretty hard. I really hate when that happens, but on inspection there was absolutely nothing on the frame.


Then I accidentally dropped the racket on a hard court and there are tons of tiny scratches on the frame. I thought the racket collision would have been far harder, but apparently not.
Hmm, maybe you both got really lucky and hit just the bumper?

I know that's happened a couple times with me when I hit the net post or bumped the wall from bringing it in from shadow swinging.
 
Those are the published tolerances, but historically Yonex has been pretty spot-on with their specs. My Pro 97 is the first Yonex I've ever bought that was off by more than 2 grams. What's strange is that this first batch of 330's and 310's have all been close to 5 grams underweight according to reports. Don't think I've ever seen that before.
After reading some of this, and people's normal experience with Yonex, I feel slightly ripped. When I got my first Ai 98, it was underweight by at least 4 grams. I didn't know at the time, and should have returned it. It never quite felt right, or stable enough. I thought it was just me or normal.

But I kept it cause it swung fast and I wanted a 4 1/4 grip originally, to add an OG but they sent me a 4 3/8 which felt perfect. And it was within 5g which I thought was fair enough for them.

I tried a couple of hours on the clay and even though I'm not a heavy spin hitter, the SV98+ allowed me to drive heavy deep balls and the bite allowed so nice drop shots, even a few times, I didn't really feel I hit them. Such is the compromise of this frame.



The specs say "Average Weight: 310" and I believe I read somewhere YONEX has a +/- 5g variance on products. That's lower than Tecnifibre (which went from 5g to 7g), and the others don't even publish such figures! To get smaller tolerances, the prices would have to go up. Would I pay $300 for a racquet now? No! But it'll be $300 in 5-10 years anyhow.
Pretty sure Babolat still publishes +/-7g. But haha, that can really be argued as a different racquet, or a lite or heavy version. And nightmare examples of Wilson off by 10g.
 

Sardines

Professional
Pretty sure Babolat still publishes +/-7g. But haha, that can really be argued as a different racquet, or a lite or heavy version. And nightmare examples of Wilson off by 10g.
Yes well I think the racquets for Tecnifibre and Babolat probably come from the same factory, so the 7 grams makes sense.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
The paint is weird, both hard and fragile. I’ve had two occasions where my partner and I both went for a volley and our rackets clashed and sounded pretty hard. I really hate when that happens, but on inspection there was absolutely nothing on the frame.

Then I accidentally dropped the racket on a hard court and there are tons of tiny scratches on the frame. I thought the racket collision would have been far harder, but apparently not.
Depending on where the frames made contact, the racket clash may have caused some internal cracking that you cannot see.

Dropping a racquet on a solid surface is much more likely to cause damage because there is little to no "give" by the solid surface. The scratches can be caused by grit sitting on the surface of the court.
 

Sardines

Professional
Those are the published tolerances, but historically Yonex has been pretty spot-on with their specs. My Pro 97 is the first Yonex I've ever bought that was off by more than 2 grams. What's strange is that this first batch of 330's and 310's have all been close to 5 grams underweight according to reports. Don't think I've ever seen that before.
Hmmm it's April 2nd now, so it can't be an April's Fool joke. If 30% of the stock are at least 5g under, then they may consider it a problem, otherwise it's all within manufacturer's tolerances, which is still one of the best, if not the best, QC in the industry. +/- 5g published tolerance with a stated "AVERAGE WEIGHT" @ 310/330g, it's well within QC. Nothing Cassandrian at all! If you're not happy with it, return it for a specified spec you want.
I bought 5 SV98+ recently, 2 together and 3 separately over the internet. Since the SV98/DR98+ have been removed from the website, and was really only available in the US and maybe a few other countries, I assume it was a limited production run. All of the sticks had a spread of 4g in weigh (-2 to +2g from 305g), 7 in swing weight, and 5mm in balance. I managed to get them all at 350 swing weight with 33cm balance and weighing within 1.5g of each other.
Perhaps coming from Wilson, I have a higher tolerance for the QC variances. I had a 11g weight spread on my RF97As, and even polarity changes. Don't get me started on the swing weight variances. I can't be happier with Yonex. There's nothing but anecdotal evidence that the new Vcore line has had a drastic drop in QC, just as my 5 examples of Yonex are anecdotal evidence of a higher QC.
 
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whorng

Rookie
I read not everything on the Yonex racquet is made in Japan. Perhaps the grommets, etc. are causing part of the weight difference in addition to the acceptable tolerances of the frame.
I say buy whatever racquet you like whether it be brand, color, or popularity. But I have a slight bias to quality products.
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
First 15 mins with the 330G are all very positive. It still swings very similar to the 310g. Much faster than expected.

The variables— demo stick is a 3/8 grip and string with ALU power fresh at #56

Lower is stockness. Higher cal is with a yonex grap and a rubber band



 

achapa8807

Semi-Pro
Curious on how the 330 stacks up against the Tour G330. Still haven’t found a string that I normally use for my EZONE 98s. Always have my Tour F97s on standby!

Didn’t get to hit with the Duel G at all and kind of regret it. I felt that the Tour G330 was a little clubby at times. Been hearing good things on the VCP330 though.
 

donnygg

Rookie
Curious on how the 330 stacks up against the Tour G330. Still haven’t found a string that I normally use for my EZONE 98s. Always have my Tour F97s on standby!

Didn’t get to hit with the Duel G at all and kind of regret it. I felt that the Tour G330 was a little clubby at times. Been hearing good things on the VCP330 though.
Tour G330 is one hellava stable racquet with great plow through. But it was too much for me, so I went to DR98. Great racquet too but I was never in tune with it. Pro97 came out and I went back to Tour G330 out of curiosity just to recap the feel. It was a great second honeymoon. The heft was addictive and I could hit out and block back so many balls I forgot I could execute. And so, I jumped right on the Pro97 330 bandwagon. Pro97 is much more maneuverable partly due to the the first batch being consistently underspec but I was missing the heft of the G330 too. G330 is more muted and Pro97 has more direct feedback. I could get more spin out of the Pro97 due to the open string pattern but the closed pattern of G330 somehow makes me feel more secure, perhaps due to the denser stringbed. My main dilemma was whether to weigh up the Pro97 to swing as heavy as the G330. I eventually settled for 2x4g at 3/9 position with a swingweight of 331 and loving it so far in all areas.
 

GN-001

Rookie
For those that have played with the 310 and 330, can you tell me where that 20g goes? I'm trying to build my 310 up to be as stable as what people are describing with the 330
 

GN-001

Rookie
For those that have played with the 310 and 330, can you tell me where that 20g goes? I'm trying to build my 310 up to be as stable as what people are describing with the 330
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
For those that have played with the 310 and 330, can you tell me where that 20g goes? I'm trying to build my 310 up to be as stable as what people are describing with the 330
What I found was that the 310 needed weight at 3 & 9 for core stability, and then just a couple of grams at 12 to boost the SW a bit more. The counter weight in the handle to restore the balance you want. Given the weighting throughout the hoop to get were I wanted to be is the key reason I decided to give the 330 a try. You get that same result without having to add the mass yourself.
 

JeanF

New User
Today I will receive a demo vcore pro 330 gr. demo from my dealer and I have some serious plans to test it tonight during my weekly training sessions.
Despite the fact that I'm completely happy with my modified vcore pro 310 gr. rackets I was still curious how the 330 in stock form should play, so I will discover tonight...

Had a nice and interesting discussion with my dealer about the fact that a lot of people here on the forum talk about the several noticed under spec weight of the 330 (approx. 325 gr.).
Here in Netherlands several dealers have other experiences with the static weight of the 330 because they all indicated that almost all the last batches had a static weight of 330,5 gr. up to 332 gr....

When my vcore pro 310 gr. rackets came in they had an unstrung static weight of 306 gram and a balance point of 30,6 cm, so under the origin weight and balance specs.
Personally I have never experienced this kind of weight and balance differences with all of my previous Yonex rackets (2x Duel G 310 / 2x SV 98 / 1x ezone 98) so I am getting some worries that Yonex lost its often complimented Quality Control with the vcore pro models....:(
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Plastic on the handle can account for up to 2.5 grams. But the tendency is for underweight. Both my 310 and 330 were under.
 

lima

Rookie
Today I will receive a demo vcore pro 330 gr. demo from my dealer and I have some serious plans to test it tonight during my weekly training sessions.
Despite the fact that I'm completely happy with my modified vcore pro 310 gr. rackets I was still curious how the 330 in stock form should play, so I will discover tonight...

Had a nice and interesting discussion with my dealer about the fact that a lot of people here on the forum talk about the several noticed under spec weight of the 330 (approx. 325 gr.).
Here in Netherlands several dealers have other experiences with the static weight of the 330 because they all indicated that almost all the last batches had a static weight of 330,5 gr. up to 332 gr....

When my vcore pro 310 gr. rackets came in they had an unstrung static weight of 306 gram and a balance point of 30,6 cm, so under the origin weight and balance specs.
Personally I have never experienced this kind of weight and balance differences with all of my previous Yonex rackets (2x Duel G 310 / 2x SV 98 / 1x ezone 98) so I am getting some worries that Yonex lost its often complimented Quality Control with the vcore pro models....:(
Same thing happened with my two dr 98 and friends duel g 310g. They all had balance more hl than they should have. I was not happy with that because I could not get balance I wanted
 

Crashbaby

Rookie
Here in Australia they are all a fraction over spec, I’ve bought 2 310’s and a 330 from a different source and all three racquets were 1 gram over after I removed the plastic. A lot of the weights being posted here are not achievable with the racquets I’ve purchased. :)
 
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JeanF

New User
Received the vcore pro 330 dealer demo today and have just weighed it.
Overall static weight (including hybride string - alu power soft/Tecnifibre X-One + original base grip with overgrip) = 349 gram

I guess that this string combination has a weight around 17 gram, and the overgrip a weight of approx. 5 gram, so the static weight of this frame unstrung and without an overgrip must be somewhere around 327 gram.
In comparison to my modified 310 version (which has a static weight of 343 gram currently) it feels reasonably more massive and hefty, but still maneuverable.

 
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mscream

Semi-Pro
I received two matched VCore Pro 97 330s today. Without the plastic wrap they were ~327 g (328.9 g, 11 HL according to the matching). Once I replaced them with Gamma Hi-Tech, both racquets are now ~331 g unstrung, (probably between 331 and 332 g, kitchen scale). With Yonex Super Grap ~337 g unstrung.
 

Fernando

Rookie
I received two matched VCore Pro 97 330s today. Without the plastic wrap they were ~327 g (328.9 g, 11 HL according to the matching). Once I replaced them with Gamma Hi-Tech, both racquets are now ~331 g unstrung, (probably between 331 and 332 g, kitchen scale). With Yonex Super Grap ~337 g unstrung.
Depending what string you use and dampener you will probably land in the 360s. You think?

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mscream

Semi-Pro
I expect 332 g + 5 g (Yonex Super Grap) + 16 g (string, 1.20 at the moment) + < 1 g (rubber band) to lead to a final weight of around 354 g. The Gamma Hi-Tech grip is so much nicer in the hand than the stock grip. Highly-recommended for people who like a firm, solid feel but don't want leather.
 

Fernando

Rookie
I expect 332 g + 5 g (Yonex Super Grap) + 16 g (string, 1.20 at the moment) + < 1 g (rubber band) to lead to a final weight of around 354 g. The Gamma Hi-Tech grip is so much nicer in the hand than the stock grip. Highly-recommended for people who like a firm, solid feel but don't want leather.
Mine arrived match at 329, with poly tour spin 16L 1.25 a wilson pro over grip and a rubber band U landed at 351.

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mscream

Semi-Pro
What tension? I will start with the same that I used in the DR98, 53/50, and then reduce it incrementally until I find a good balance between power/feel/control.
 

Fernando

Rookie
What tension? I will start with the same that I used in the DR98, 53/50, and then reduce it incrementally until I find a good balance between power/feel/control.
I went 50lbs thinking tha same as you but it definitely felt too tight. Idk if i didnt allow the string to settle enough ( tho I played three time a total of like 3 hours). Im now letting tlone of the raquets at that tension and let it drop for a while and see but the newt ob in stringing either 45 or 48 at most. I didnt get much pocketing at 50lb and the racquets felt as is it was strong at 60.

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Fernando

Rookie
I went 50lbs thinking tha same as you but it definitely felt too tight. Idk if i didnt allow the string to settle enough ( tho I played three time a total of like 3 hours). Im now letting tlone of the raquets at that tension and let it drop for a while and see but the newt ob in stringing either 45 or 48 at most. I didnt get much pocketing at 50lb and the racquets felt as is it was strong at 60.

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JeanF

New User
I went 50lbs thinking tha same as you but it definitely felt too tight. Idk if i didnt allow the string to settle enough ( tho I played three time a total of like 3 hours). Im now letting tlone of the raquets at that tension and let it drop for a while and see but the newt ob in stringing either 45 or 48 at most. I didnt get much pocketing at 50lb and the racquets felt as is it was strong at 60.

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Depending to what type of string you're using I assume that a tension weight of max. 51 lbs will be more than enough for the vcore pro since it generates not much power by itself.
I have played and tested a couple of poly strings in my modified 310 version and to me it gives the best playability at 23 kg main/22 kg cross.
Furthermore I experienced that this frame is very sensitive for different types of strings and weight tensions due to the direct feel and response it gives.
Even the difference between two knot stringing or four knot stringing is noticeable directly...
 

Fernando

Rookie
Depending to what type of string you're using I assume that a tension weight of max. 51 lbs will be more than enough for the vcore pro since it generates not much power by itself.
I have played and tested a couple of poly strings in my modified 310 version and to me it gives the best playability at 23 kg main/22 kg cross.
Furthermore I experienced that this frame is very sensitive for different types of strings and weight tensions due to the direct feel and response it gives.
Even the difference between two knot stringing or four knot stringing is noticeable directly...
I went with a stiff shaped poly at 50 full bed. I would like to keepnusing the string but i definetly need to go lower. Should I string the crosses ever lower you think? I usually keep the same tension in both mains and crosses.

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mscream

Semi-Pro
I definitely prefer a 5% diff in Yonex racquets; might be subjective but I feel it increases the sweet spot and gives me more feel. I think I'm actually going to start with 51/48, 53 lbs on the mains might be too much indeed.
 

Fernando

Rookie
I definitely prefer a 5% diff in Yonex racquets; might be subjective but I feel it increases the sweet spot and gives me more feel. I think I'm actually going to start with 51/48, 53 lbs on the mains might be too much indeed.
Give it a try but in telling you 50 felt so tight almost boardy, Im usually like that (I usually play with a stiffer racquets in higher tension) and fir some reason this time I felt so didconnected from the ball. But you might be right, im going to try my next racquet 48/45lb

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JeanF

New User
I definitely prefer a 5% diff in Yonex racquets; might be subjective but I feel it increases the sweet spot and gives me more feel. I think I'm actually going to start with 51/48, 53 lbs on the mains might be too much indeed.
That's exactly equal to my experiences so far ;)

Personally I can't understand the people who are still playing with such a high tension weight on poly strings; it's totally not required with the modern poly strings on the market.
Some persons are complaining about a certain lack of control when they have doubts to choose stringing their racket with low tension weight, but that's i.m.o. to much ''old fashioned'' thinking...
 
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Tordne

Semi-Pro
Here in Australia they are all a fraction over spec, I’ve bought 2 310’s and a 330 from a different source and all three racquets were 1 gram over after I removed the plastic. A lot of the weights being posted here are not achievable with the racquets I’ve purchased. :)
My 330 came from Tennis Only. But I was happy to be 5 grams low actually.
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
For those that have played with the 310 and 330, can you tell me where that 20g goes? I'm trying to build my 310 up to be as stable as what people are describing with the 330
It's pretty well distributed and the frame still plays quick despite the 20g bump. The upper hoop is a bit more friendly. Frankly, I wouldn't bother "building up" the 310 unless there are specific characteristics you want to change about the frame. Just go with the 330g if you like the spec.
 

alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
Give it a try but in telling you 50 felt so tight almost boardy, Im usually like that (I usually play with a stiffer racquets in higher tension) and fir some reason this time I felt so didconnected from the ball. But you might be right, im going to try my next racquet 48/45lb

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Interesting. In the 310, I was comfortable at #48 with the BHB7 constant pull and wish I would have dropped lower for the Hyper G to about 47-8. I think I strung it at #50 to account for the difference between constant pull and my lock-out machine.

On the other hand, the 330g demo had brand new ALU Power at #56 on a CP and I didn't have any issues with it after the initial break-in.

Sounds to me like the 97 Pro is preeeeeetty string-sensitive.
 

Fernando

Rookie
Interesting. In the 310, I was comfortable at #48 with the BHB7 constant pull and wish I would have dropped lower for the Hyper G to about 47-8. I think I strung it at #50 to account for the difference between constant pull and my lock-out machine.

On the other hand, the 330g demo had brand new ALU Power at #56 on a CP and I didn't have any issues with it after the initial break-in.

Sounds to me like the 97 Pro is preeeeeetty string-sensitive.
The curse of responsive racquets i guess

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alidisperanza

Hall of Fame
Updated thoughts on the 330g play-wise.

It still retains much of the "whippy" feeling of the 310, except at the (obviously) higher weight. Stability is improved and I only felt like the added weight slowed me down on one or two shots when jammed inside close to the body. Nothing a little more playtime can't fix. Fortunately, the 330 addresses a good portion of my concerns with the upper hoop of the frame. It's definitely a lot more friendly on off-hits but you'll still know where in the string-bed you're hitting.

Ground-strokes-
- Definitely produced a consistently deeper ball, although I can't necessarily comment on the weight/ effectiveness of my shots.
- Easier to redirect shots with the added weight.
- No major sacrifice in terms of prep/ "reacting" to balls that can't be fixed with a little court time
- Harder to control with less pace on the ball.

Volleys-
- I enjoyed volleying with this setup much, much more and was surprised that the frame retains a lot of the maneuverability for flick-shots like half-volleys and aggressive angles.
- Still not confident with the frame but I saw a lot more consistency and responsiveness. I was comfortable enough to attempt "fancy"volleys (sticking a hard angle, or a drop shot) whereas with the 310 it was like... cmooooon' get it back on court.

Serves-
- I still don't feel totally dialed in with either of these. I try to vary my serve selection on both 1st and second serve and never felt I could do that consistently. Directional control was not as precise as I expected and I felt like I was generally aiming, forehand/backhand vs targeting a specific spot on the court. I also can't figure out how to make each serve stand out respectively ie: slice vs kick vs. "twist" vs. standard consistency topspin second serve. They all feel like they're blending into the same ball. I suppose this is a "feel" issue. Normally it wouldn't bother me as much but I hit about 50-60 serves with the Wilson Ultra Tour back-to-back with the same strings, same tension, same grip size and had auto-pilot command. With the UT it was all set-phasers-to-stun, and stun it was. Kick serve wide, and the ball adopted a beautiful arc into the side-curtain. With the 330 it was like oh look, it went in the box, no second serve, yay.

Overall, I'm still a bit torn and would love more playtime on each of these frames, especially if I can get my hands on a 1/2 330g. Chances are I'll probably end up buying one of each for further testing.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Personally I can't understand the people who are still playing with such a high tension weight on poly strings; it's totally not required with the modern poly strings on the market.
IMO, tighter string-beds provide much more spin potential for players who can generate really high RHS.

It could also be argued that more flexible racquets require tighter string-beds to maximise control potential and depth potential but I think that depends on the player.
 

fundrazer

Legend
@TW Staff Sorry to ask again, but what is the status on the 310g demos? They were in stock briefly, but it seems that maybe this was a mistake. I put an order in for Vcore Pro 330 and 310 demos + a nike tee, but the order has been on hold this entire week :(

Edit: Nevermind! Just got an email that my order shipped out. Best news I've gotten all week, as sad as that may sound.
 
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dnj30

Semi-Pro
Demoed the 310 last night. Was strung with lux power at 56. With an over wrap and rubber band it weighed in at 330g.
I've been playing a tec tfight ltd 16m{2013 version) leaded up to 341g for last 4 years or so. Love the tec but as I've gotten older I've been looking(unsuccessfully) for a similar playing stick that was just a bit lighter.
I think I finally found what I'm looking for. Love this yonex. It's definitely a classic feeling thin beam players stick with just a little bit of modern racket performance..Great feel, low power, good spin. Slightly stiffer than the tec but still has flexy feel. A little easier to maneuver. I want to hit once more with it but I think this is a great frame for anyone who likes true players frames but looking for something a little lighter.
Good looking stick too!
Just my 2 cents....
 

donnygg

Rookie
I currently use DR 98 weighted up to around 340g.
Can anyone with experience compare this to the Pro 97 330?
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/yonex-vcore-pro-97.606444/page-18#post-12153091
I've earlier briefly compared DR98 vs Pro97 (link above). It would help to know where you placed your weight. My DR98 was weighted up to 366g but it swung lighter than stock Pro97 because only 2x3.5g were placed at 3/9 position, the rest were in the grip/butt. The swingweight matters much more than static weight (at least to me).
 
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