Yonex Vcore Pro 97

Not sure about the Babolats, but Yonex has less butt cap flare. Use some old grip to increase the flare.
Summer time = more sweat which means less grip and you compensate by gripping the handle more. Try changing over grips aggressively.
As you mentioned more confidence might lead to playing harder. Concentrate on relaxing more on your shots, easier said than done.
If you can, drop the tension. It can be a drop only on the crosses if that is enough.
Keep the HyperG mains, but try a softer poly cross.
More wrist/arm stretches + exercises.
Thanks for the great reply!
 
I've been playing with the vcore pro97 310 strung with rs lyon 52/50 for a good 10 hours now. Summary...fantastic stick i will be getting a second one. not much to add but i will reiterate... control control control.... Directional control especially. It excels there. I had some cross court and down the line shots with this thing that I did not know I had in me.

Now this "power" stuff.. I actually find it to be little bit non sensical. I used to be hung up on this too but the only interpretation i can make for power is if you are in a defensive position "getting" or "digging" the ball out, does it have enough pop/spring in it? The answer for vcore pro 97 is middle of the road. But hopefully my choice of racquet never comes to me emphasizing that stroke which I would hope to try and not get myself into at the first place. But if people are referring to "power" as ability to blast winners. Yes. plenty of power. and again... you are hitting a 60gram ball with a racquet. Power is plenty with every racquet beyond a certain level of play. Basically what it comes down to is that I would not advise this stick to beginners. It would kind of be frustrating and discouraging. If you want to enjoy this stick you have to be intermediate at the least. Volleys are the weakest part of my game so I will not judge those but groundstrokes are fantastic. Feel, control and spin generation. All there in plenty of amounts. Super maneuverable and whippy too. It's all the thin beam qualities. In the reviews someone said extension of your arm. I would agree with that. And finally, stability is good/adequate. I'll put it this way.... It's a racquet that emphasizes all the fantastic qualities that I mentioned above without compromising from stability. It's not the highlight of the racquet and I don't need it to be.

Now string experiment begins. RS Lyon is awesome in it. I will try Velocity, YPTP and Alpha(Grapplesnake) next and see which one of the 4 fits my game the best.
 
I've been playing with the vcore pro97 310 strung with rs lyon 52/50 for a good 10 hours now. Summary...fantastic stick i will be getting a second one. not much to add but i will reiterate... control control control.... Directional control especially. It excels there. I had some cross court and down the line shots with this thing that I did not know I had in me.

Now this "power" stuff.. I actually find it to be little bit non sensical. I used to be hung up on this too but the only interpretation i can make for power is if you are in a defensive position "getting" or "digging" the ball out, does it have enough pop/spring in it? The answer for vcore pro 97 is middle of the road. But hopefully my choice of racquet never comes to me emphasizing that stroke which I would hope to try and not get myself into at the first place. But if people are referring to "power" as ability to blast winners. Yes. plenty of power. and again... you are hitting a 60gram ball with a racquet. Power is plenty with every racquet beyond a certain level of play. Basically what it comes down to is that I would not advise this stick to beginners. It would kind of be frustrating and discouraging. If you want to enjoy this stick you have to be intermediate at the least. Volleys are the weakest part of my game so I will not judge those but groundstrokes are fantastic. Feel, control and spin generation. All there in plenty of amounts. Super maneuverable and whippy too. It's all the thin beam qualities. In the reviews someone said extension of your arm. I would agree with that. And finally, stability is good/adequate. I'll put it this way.... It's a racquet that emphasizes all the fantastic qualities that I mentioned above without compromising from stability. It's not the highlight of the racquet and I don't need it to be.

Now string experiment begins. RS Lyon is awesome in it. I will try Velocity, YPTP and Alpha(Grapplesnake) next and see which one of the 4 fits my game the best.
Good stuff. Seems like folks on this thread are all over the place in terms of leading the 310 up, from none at all (quite a few in this boat), to lead at 12, 3 and 9 and handle. Obviously, owner preferences at play here but curious what your experience has been. Just received my new 310 yesterday, strung with Velocity mains, RSL crosses, 52/50. Will hit for the first time today (no lead for starters).
 
Good stuff. Seems like folks on this thread are all over the place in terms of leading the 310 up, from none at all (quite a few in this boat), to lead at 12, 3 and 9 and handle. Obviously, owner preferences at play here but curious what your experience has been. Just received my new 310 yesterday, strung with Velocity mains, RSL crosses, 52/50. Will hit for the first time today (no lead for starters).
Awesome. I would be curious to hear that string setup. Let us know..

The more I play the better idea I would likely develop with regards to any other improvements (ie. adding weight etc). However, so far, I do not want to increase the number of variables that I am trying to figure out ... ie racquet, strings etc. And I can't judge these by hitting only couple of hours so this will take time for me. I want to put each setup through rigorous 10 hours... rallying, point play, match etc...
 
310 seems much preferred than 330.

I like the total weight be slightly less than 350g. 330 strung plus overgrip = 330 + 15 + 6 = 351g. Should I heavily lead a 310 rather than using a 330? No demo program in where I live.
 
I've been playing with the vcore pro97 310 strung with rs lyon 52/50 for a good 10 hours now. Summary...fantastic stick i will be getting a second one. not much to add but i will reiterate... control control control.... Directional control especially. It excels there. I had some cross court and down the line shots with this thing that I did not know I had in me.

Now this "power" stuff.. I actually find it to be little bit non sensical. I used to be hung up on this too but the only interpretation i can make for power is if you are in a defensive position "getting" or "digging" the ball out, does it have enough pop/spring in it? The answer for vcore pro 97 is middle of the road. But hopefully my choice of racquet never comes to me emphasizing that stroke which I would hope to try and not get myself into at the first place. But if people are referring to "power" as ability to blast winners. Yes. plenty of power. and again... you are hitting a 60gram ball with a racquet. Power is plenty with every racquet beyond a certain level of play. Basically what it comes down to is that I would not advise this stick to beginners. It would kind of be frustrating and discouraging. If you want to enjoy this stick you have to be intermediate at the least. Volleys are the weakest part of my game so I will not judge those but groundstrokes are fantastic. Feel, control and spin generation. All there in plenty of amounts. Super maneuverable and whippy too. It's all the thin beam qualities. In the reviews someone said extension of your arm. I would agree with that. And finally, stability is good/adequate. I'll put it this way.... It's a racquet that emphasizes all the fantastic qualities that I mentioned above without compromising from stability. It's not the highlight of the racquet and I don't need it to be.

Now string experiment begins. RS Lyon is awesome in it. I will try Velocity, YPTP and Alpha(Grapplesnake) next and see which one of the 4 fits my game the best.
Great review of the frame. It’s definitely got control in spades.

Extension of the arm...think I wrote that. :)
 
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310 seems much preferred than 330.

I like the total weight be slightly less than 350g. 330 strung plus overgrip = 330 + 15 + 6 = 351g. Should I heavily lead a 310 rather than using a 330? No demo program in where I live.
I’d use a 330 in this case personally. A couple grams is probably not worth messing with lead over. Especially since the new 330 is supposed to come through the air pretty fast for it’s weight.

I will have my 330 soon and be able to compare to a stock 310. I will also compare to another 310 leaded to 320. Between these frames I should have a winner. I can think of arguments for all three weights, so the best way to really know what works is to be honest with yourself about how high your tip speed is at the heaviest weights. Since I have been using the 310 stock for a month now and can switch back and forth , I will be able to hopefully get an answer. I suspect I may end up using the 320 weighted one the most, but that’s just a guess. I have been wrong before about what I prefer. I do know that the 310 holds up great to big hitting, so I have no problems there. My main issue is me - I tend to swing too fast at times with this frame, and I hit a lot cleaner with my heavier Phantom 93. But I don’t get the same spin with that racquet. So that is what I will work out over time with the 97s.
 

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Official Stanwand is in and with everything on it weighs exactly 20 grams more than the 310 with a Sampras damp and OG. Same strings and tension - I am going with Max Power rough for a while since I’m about out of RS Lyon again. So 332 grams versus 352.

The heavy one looks the exact same, no way to tell the difference so ill use a different color dampener on it for now. Should be able to hit tonight and have some initial thoughts.
 
Official Stanwand is in and with everything on it weighs exactly 20 grams more than the 310 with a Sampras damp and OG. Same strings and tension - I am going with Max Power rough for a while since I’m about out of RS Lyon again. So 332 grams versus 352.

The heavy one looks the exact same, no way to tell the difference so ill use a different color dampener on it for now. Should be able to hit tonight and have some initial thoughts.
Did you get it strung with RS Lyon as well?
 

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Did you get it strung with RS Lyon as well?
No Max power rough is in all of my 3 frames now. I am almost out of RS. I will get more of that. I really love both strings, but I think RS is still my favorite for feel. The performance of Max Power is pretty great though. I want to keep everything consistent for now so I can try the different weights out without any variables. I will mod a 310 with leather grip and lead to 320 unstrung in a day or so and the experiment will begin!
 
310 seems much preferred than 330.

I like the total weight be slightly less than 350g. 330 strung plus overgrip = 330 + 15 + 6 = 351g. Should I heavily lead a 310 rather than using a 330? No demo program in where I live.
The 310 leaves you room to trweak your frame to your spec. A 4.5 guy switch in Dec 2018 and it has "cured" his racquet switching; for now.
 
Official Stanwand is in and with everything on it weighs exactly 20 grams more than the 310 with a Sampras damp and OG. Same strings and tension - I am going with Max Power rough for a while since I’m about out of RS Lyon again. So 332 grams versus 352.

The heavy one looks the exact same, no way to tell the difference so ill use a different color dampener on it for now. Should be able to hit tonight and have some initial thoughts.
May the Force be with you. :)
 

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My thoughts on the 330 so far - it’s awesome. Compared to the Tour G 330 it is easier to baseline from. the drawback is that it is not as stable at the net as the old one, but I don’t hang out at the net that much. The difference between it and the stock 310 is that slices are insanely heavy and it’s easier to keep the ball deep. I got a little less racquet head speed, but I was still able to generate a lot of spin, so early impressions are that this is a lot easier to get over the ball with compared to the orange version. I also hit the ball more consistently. With heavier frames it is easier for me to square the face up. I should note that I am really used to this weight of frame as I played the P93 for over a year and I hit pretty clean with that.

The feel of course is out of control. the 310 feels fantastic as it is, and then you add 20 grams to it and it’s just sublime.

I should be able to mod a 310 up to 320 in the next few days so that will be very interesting to see how it compares split down the middle of the weight classes.
 
I've already bought a popcorn. There is a new soap opera coming :)

No offense!

(What's next - super light 280gr or players frame 340gr unstrung ? Interesting jumping into extremes - heavy to lightweight and back to heavy; super power & extended and spin to control, ... )
 
I used to have DR98 and now VCP97.

DR98 offers more power and stability but less control. Both were equal in terms of comfort but VCP97 had a smoother feeling for me.

Stock VCP97 is great but I missed the power of the DR98 so added 1.5g at 12 o’clock. Couldn’t believe it but fell more in love it.

Finally added 10g in the handle (removed stock grip and replaced with leather)

With dampener, strings, and overgrip, it is now 349g — for me, this is the perfect combination. Ended up getting 3 total and modifying as identically as possible
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I've already bought a popcorn. There is a new soap opera coming :)

No offense!

(What's next - super light 280gr or players frame 340gr unstrung ? Interesting jumping into extremes - heavy to lightweight and back to heavy; super power & extended and spin to control, ... )
No idea what you are talking about here, but it seems like you enjoy trolling. There is nothing close to a soap opera happening that I can see.

The fact that we can play at different weights with the same frame is awesome. I’m working with a stock 310, slightly modded one and a 330 stock.

No jump to extremes for me. I’m fine tuning what I like within a 30 gram variant.

And to add since you keep saying this in other posts - the 310 at stock weight is not a “toy” against heavy hitters (I have hit with a 5.5 player recently with it). It still weighs around 330 strung. It’s more about personal preference and what works for the player.
 
i saw that too... thank you @zettavaska

I am finally landing on a stick after some 6 months of looking.... next finalize the string setup; and then finally i can flirt with customizing weight... But i know what i will try as soon as I am ready to do so. My vcore pro97 came in slightly heavy (313gr). strings+OG... it's at ~335gr. I think so far it's the perfect weight for me. Yes i could get more stability but maneuverability so gooooodd..
 

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TW leather grips delivered. The 25mm, 1.33 size is the way to go. It added 8 grams total weight so my frame is now 318. 2 grams at the tip and this frame will be 320 unstrung on the nose. Guessing that should get the SW closer to 325, which is great.

FYI, the Yonex base grip weighs 13 grams.
 
TW leather grips delivered. The 25mm, 1.33 size is the way to go. It added 8 grams total weight so my frame is now 318. 2 grams at the tip and this frame will be 320 unstrung on the nose. Guessing that should get the SW closer to 325, which is great.

FYI, the Yonex base grip weighs 13 grams.
I'm about to order this same grip... So it weighs less than the stock grip? Does it feel like it added girth or no?
 

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I dont think i can get lead under these grommets without removing them and installing a new set. So for now ill log some time with it on the paint and make sure i like the modded setup.
 
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Bought a used 310 in very good condition (~8.5/10) at a good price. Came strung with Rexis/YPTP hybrid at 52lbs (or so the seller thinks). Can't wait to give it a hit soon. Damn you lot for the good reviews.
Just realised the racquet I got has the word "DEMO" just above the handle on the side, and it is of the same font type as the serial number above it. I guess I bought an ex-demo racquet?
 
I'm back to my DR 98's, the extra .125 inch really makes a difference on my serve since im a fairly short guy. I did enjoy the Vcore though. Hit some of the natiest dropshots I've ever hit. Groundies were more accurate than with my DR 98's the only thing was I couldn't win as many free points on serve
 
Just realised the racquet I got has the word "DEMO" just above the handle on the side, and it is of the same font type as the serial number above it. I guess I bought an ex-demo racquet?
Same as retail sticks. Stores will sell demos if they don't have retail stock, or the customer can keep/buy the demo stick.
For example if you demo racquets from TW and don't return them they will bill your card.
 
Same as retail sticks. Stores will sell demos if they don't have retail stock, or the customer can keep/buy the demo stick.
For example if you demo racquets from TW and don't return them they will bill your card.
Thanks. That's what I thought, and since I got it at a good price, I don't mind.
 

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Did you build up the butt flare a little while you were at it? It is noticeably less well-endowed compared to the Prince 93P...
Yes i did and its awesome that way. I will get to play with it over the next few days but the frame feels great in the hand. The mod worked perfectly, and the frame came in right at at 342 as i was hoping.
 

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Apologies, I meant how did you build up the butt-flare?
Oh i just did the first wrap and then made the second go over it without much overlap showing. It was easy. Probably the best leather grip wrap i have done - it feels fantastic. There was still about 5 inches of leather to cut off at the end so theres plenty of runway.
 
Oh i just did the first wrap and then made the second go over it without much overlap showing. It was easy. Probably the best leather grip wrap i have done - it feels fantastic. There was still about 5 inches of leather to cut off at the end so theres plenty of runway.
Sweet! I have a spare Kimony leather grip coming on order. Gonna give this a go.
 

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I play mine with just kimony leather no lead weight. I find it very playable and to my liking.
So this brings up something interesting that I am checking into as well. I notice that with the 330 version I hit more consistently and deeper without going long. But it’s less spin and racquet head speed. The extra racquet head speed from the lighter frames makes them feel like they are more powerful than they are, because I am swinging faster. It also can result sometimes in more errors.

Anyway, the main thing I want to figure out is if I can get the best of both worlds by getting the heavy spin of the lighter frame with the consistency of the heavier one.

It’s kind of complex because the racquet is such a small part of how we are playing. Are you having an off day..tired legs..not keeping your head still..etc. Those are all factors that are more important than the frame.

Also does the lower stock SW of the frame actually make racquet head control more difficult for those of us with higher tip speeds, or is it better since it forces you to keep your tip speed up the entire match ?

Just some stuff I am working out while I mess with the different frame weights. It’s a personal and subjective thing, but since I quoted your post, my question is this - what is your playstyle and grip? Mine is heavy topspin baseliner with extreme SW grip and 2 handed backhand. I do follow my shots to net, but I am not a great volleyer, so I choose my approaches carefully.
 
So this brings up something interesting that I am checking into as well. I notice that with the 330 version I hit more consistently and deeper without going long. But it’s less spin and racquet head speed. The extra racquet head speed from the lighter frames makes them feel like they are more powerful than they are, because I am swinging faster. It also can result sometimes in more errors.

Anyway, the main thing I want to figure out is if I can get the best of both worlds by getting the heavy spin of the lighter frame with the consistency of the heavier one.

It’s kind of complex because the racquet is such a small part of how we are playing. Are you having an off day..tired legs..not keeping your head still..etc. Those are all factors that are more important than the frame.

Also does the lower stock SW of the frame actually make racquet head control more difficult for those of us with higher tip speeds, or is it better since it forces you to keep your tip speed up the entire match ?

Just some stuff I am working out while I mess with the different frame weights. It’s a personal and subjective thing, but since I quoted your post, my question is this - what is your playstyle and grip? Mine is heavy topspin baseliner with extreme SW grip and 2 handed backhand. I do follow my shots to net, but I am not a great volleyer, so I choose my approaches carefully.
I have a semi-western FH grip. Im a topspin/flat hitting baseliner with a 2H BH. I usually like to grind out/control the points I play but will hop on anything short so I can move in - my whole game is focused on me getting a short ball to finish with at angle or away from my opponent then finishing with a volley. Nowadays I will throw in more slices to throw off my opponent or hit drop shots.

This stick offers a lot of control over the ball and it's suitable to my game.
 
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I have a semi-western FH grip. Im a topspin/flat hitting baseliner with a 2H BH. I usually like to grind out/control the points I play but will hop on anything short so I can move on - my whole game is focused on me getting a short ball to finish with at angle or away from my opponent then finishing with a volley. Nowadays I will throw in more slices to throw off my opponent or hit drop shots.

This stick offers a lot of control over the ball and it suitable to my game.
Nice, thats great. Sounds very similar to myself, as I really like to use slice as well. Ill mess with my modded 310 more tonight and see if I like the little extra bit of SW tonight. It looks like the balance of mine is around 1pt more HL than stock with this configuration.
 
Nice, thats great. Sounds very similar to myself, as I really like to use slice as well. Ill mess with my modded 310 more tonight and see if I like the little extra bit of SW tonight. It looks like the balance of mine is around 1pt more HL than stock with this configuration.
Trying to not mod mine too much since I liked how they played originally. I just added the kimony leather because I enjoy the increased feel sensation.

Thanks for sharing the info on the new PJ - I am most likely going to buy one to add to my current pair.
 
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