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The Lafino crew usually compose 2 videos/reviews for each racquet. The second one seems to be more in depth, hitting, serving, e.t.c.
But looks like they finished with bow......The Lafino crew usually compose 2 videos/reviews for each racquet. The second one seems to be more in depth, hitting, serving, e.t.c.
But looks like they finished with bow......
That’s why I was a little disappointed. They used to have better long reviews but this did not tell much less information than before.
I tested the SW on the one we have and it was 322.
Any pics? Nothing on Yonex Japan site.
I tested the SW on the one we have and it was 322.
They look almost blacked out from a distance.. interesting they strung their frames at 40lbs both the 97 and 100
Came across the new frame at the ATP 500 Rotterdam event! In real life the Colors turn out to be less blue and more grey.
Racquet looks very classy! Surely we have a Japanese speaker on the forum who might share some insight into what was said?
Racquet looks very classy! Surely we have a Japanese speaker on the forum
Racquet looks very classy! Surely we have a Japanese speaker on the forum who might share some insight into what was said?
My only problem is deciding whether to go with the 310 or 330 version! My heart says the 330, but the head and the coach will say otherwise... Tennis Only (Australian TW partner) now do demos just like TW which is fantastic, waiting for this beast to drop is killing me!
Regarding the 310 or 330g, for me, it will come down to the RA. If they make the 330 stiffer again, then I will definitely get the 310... plus it leaves more space for modification in order to create that perfect beast... Can't wait for the reviews...
Did we ever get a confirmed release date for US customers? Excited!
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Would be great if there was an English translation (subtitles) so I could understand what they were saying
Came across the new frame at the ATP 500 Rotterdam event! In real life the Colors turn out to be less blue and more grey.
Turn on auto-translate in the settings at the bottom. It's quite fun. Why? Because you will be none the wiser!
Wow,, what a great review.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed
then why is 50 % of the pros and college players switching to Yonex frames ??The shots are very loopy. The racquet or maybe it is the player, does not appear to be able to generate a really heavy ball.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed. It seems that higher RHS is rewarded with much loopier spinny shots. Leading up the frame seems to help a little but at the cost of control potential and maneuverability.
IMO, most modern Yonex frames seem to be very flimsy in comparison to other manufs. and don't seem to have the Finishing Shot power potential of other frames.
head's offer is ****ty atm-unless prostock. Wilson is expensive and already crowded. Yonex is supporting young guns+ great frames with good quality. We now see the resultsthen why is 50 % of the pros and college players switching to Yonex frames ??
The shots are very loopy. The racquet or maybe it is the player, does not appear to be able to generate a really heavy ball.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed. It seems that higher RHS is rewarded with much loopier spinny shots. Leading up the frame seems to help a little but at the cost of control potential and maneuverability.
IMO, most modern Yonex frames seem to be very flimsy in comparison to other manufs. and don't seem to have the Finishing Shot power potential of other frames.
The shots are very loopy. The racquet or maybe it is the player, does not appear to be able to generate a really heavy ball.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed. It seems that higher RHS is rewarded with much loopier spinny shots. Leading up the frame seems to help a little but at the cost of control potential and maneuverability.
IMO, most modern Yonex frames seem to be very flimsy in comparison to other manufs. and don't seem to have the Finishing Shot power potential of other frames.
The shots are very loopy. The racquet or maybe it is the player, does not appear to be able to generate a really heavy ball.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed. It seems that higher RHS is rewarded with much loopier spinny shots. Leading up the frame seems to help a little but at the cost of control potential and maneuverability.
IMO, most modern Yonex frames seem to be very flimsy in comparison to other manufs. and don't seem to have the Finishing Shot power potential of other frames.
Wawrinka, Kyrgios, Vandeweghe, Chung, and Shapovalov would tend to disagree or at least disprove your theory...
The shots are very loopy. The racquet or maybe it is the player, does not appear to be able to generate a really heavy ball.
It might be just me, but most Yonex racquets don't seem to produce a really heavy ball in comparison to say some of the Babolat or Wilson racquets regardless of the racquet head speed. It seems that higher RHS is rewarded with much loopier spinny shots. Leading up the frame seems to help a little but at the cost of control potential and maneuverability.
IMO, most modern Yonex frames seem to be very flimsy in comparison to other manufs. and don't seem to have the Finishing Shot power potential of other frames.
then why is 50 % of the pros and college players switching to Yonex frames ??
They are just rallying? I don't see anyone trying to put away balls in the video, but interesting to see how you can determine the racquet's "Finishing Shot power potential" from this video clip.
I’d say it’s more the Indian than the arrow. I’ve played Head, Wilson, Dunlop, Prince, and finally landed on Yonex.
Wawrinka, Kyrgios, Vandeweghe, Chung, and Shapovalov would tend to disagree or at least disprove your theory...
Exactly... Kyrgios, Wawrinka, and Shapo kind of embody "Finishing Shot power potential"..... which also sounds like a marketing term that Yonex has or will come up with in the future.
Finally, Yonex clears image of Women's rackets. I am not sure why you said Yonex rackets do not produce heavy balls?????
F93/Duel G/ Regna are solid rackets (never clicked with SI, AI,DR, and F series except 93 for me though).
The Pros. that are switching are doing it for the money and because Yonex are approaching them with better offers than the Big 3 which have all the best players covered.
What College players use is irrelevant. They use what they are given or use what their favorite players use. Many college and amateur players were using Babolat products a decade ago for no reason other than Rafa used them.
I'm not. I've used Babs, Yonex, and Wilson. All customised and with many different string combinations. Hoops from 95 to 100. IME Yonex racquets are the best QC and probably the best PJs. But for players with long fast strokes I don't think they consistently compete with Babs and Wilson models.
Modern Yonex racquets don't appear to be able to take much punishment either. The "Hi tech" materials used in the racquets don't seem to give the racquets a lot of strength in comparison to other manufs.. I've seen a few situations on court where a Yonex racquet has cracked easily where Babs and Wilson's haven't but YMMV.
I used to be a fervent believer of that philosophy too. And most of the Tennis Coaches I talk to tend to peddle the same thing.
However, I don't agree any longer. I have see many players transform their game simply by switching racquet brands. It makes sense, as different racquets are made of different materials which react differently. The transformation is probably less for Elite or Professional players but it depends on the player. Remember Agassi switching from Prince to Donnay? And hasn't Wozniacki gone from Babolat to Yonex and back to Babolat? I'm astounded that Nishikori can't find a Yonex racquet to suit his game. Would have thought he would be the ideal Yonex ambassador.
Personally though, I think STRINGS are much more important and influence things more than anything else, all other things being equal.
Yonex has been promoting its products for quite some time now.
I don't see Federer, Nadal or Djokovic who are the really consistently heavy shot makers using Yonex. One thing to hit the odd big Finishing shot. Another thing to do it all the time and win lots and lots of BIG tournaments.
Nick and Stan aren't using stock models - and I think the sticks they are using are a lot further away from stock models than the ones Roger and Rafa use.
Chung has had some decent wins recently but he is not really what I would call a BIG hitter.
And IMO, Shapo. would be just as successful, if not more so, if he had stayed with Wilson. He jumped for the money, not because it was a better racquet. In years to come I think Wilson will regret not looking after Shapo. and perhaps Wilson might tempt him back to the fold. Anyway, those guys and all the sponsored Yonex players get new racquets all the time. Most of us don't.
Afaic, Yonex is riding a bit of a "Flavour of the Month" wave atm. Will be interesting to see if it has the longevity at the Elite level that Wilson, Babolat and Head have had.
One unique thing is that a lot of Yonex's best products are still M.I.J. How long before all the manuf. is moved offshore to China? And what might that do to its products is anyone's guess. (I do realise some Yonex sticks are already M.I.C.)
I said, IMO Yonex racquets do not produce heavy balls in comparison to Babolat and Wilson models. Of course, the right combination of player, customised racquet and string can produce heavy balls with any racquet. It's just that I think that it is easier to produce the heaviest balls with other manufs. models.
With all due respect, I don't quite agree that Yonex is flimsy compared to other manufacturers. I've used and own Wilson, Prince, Dunlop, Babolat, Head and finally Yonex racquets and to me, Babolat feels a lot more flimsy and hollow compared to Yonex. I've settled on Yonex because at impact it feels solid and also because of its amazing QC. I've literally weighed 10 Tour Gs at the shop before purchasing 2 and it was all within 2grams from specs. So a 310 could be 312 or 308. Babolat is +-7 so if you buy 2 racquets with a spec of 300g, it could 293 or 307. That's 14grams difference!
Also I've hit with two top juniors in my area, one with a Wilson and the other with a Yonex. Both can produce a very heavy ball. The one with the Yonex Dr 98 hits a massive heavy kick serve. So like another poster has said, it's more the Indian than the arrow.
I don't wish to start an argument here. If you think that Babolat racquets are flimsy compared to Yonex racquets, I don't agree. So let's agree to disagree. Saying that, if I was in a dark alley, I would prefer a Babolat APD or PD in my hand than anything Yonex has produced.
IMO, QC issue is a furphie and easily dealt with. It is simply a case of measuring racquets prior to purchasing them. I've never had a problem buying multiple products from any of the big manufacturers, and I have bought plenty. Just check them before purchase. I appreciate that many purchaser probably don't have enough knowledge on how to do this, but then again they probably don't detect much of a difference anyway.
As for Online Purchasing, make sure racquets are purchased from reputable dealers which will exchange them or provide refunds if necessary.
The problem with using Juniors to "compare" racquets is that they are not the same. What happens if you give the one with the DR98 a Wilson racquet? What happens if you give the Wilson guys the DR98.? IME, the Yonex guy would go up, and the Wilson guys would step back. You have to compare Apples with Apples.
I'm gonna go on a Wilson racquet thread, and then say that Wilson is not as good as other manufacturers. Then I will turn around say I don't want to start an argument when people start to disagree with me, but this will be after posting a wall of text about each and every one of the other person's comments and defending each of my points. It's a very sound and meaningful discussion that needs to be had.
fair enough. Anyways let's not argue. Let's get back on track about the new Vcore Pro. I'm excited!
The Pros. that are switching are doing it for the money and because Yonex are approaching them with better offers than the Big 3 which have all the best players covered.
What College players use is irrelevant. They use what they are given or use what their favorite players use. Many college and amateur players were using Babolat products a decade ago for no reason other than Rafa used them.
I'm not. I've used Babs, Yonex, and Wilson. All customised and with many different string combinations. Hoops from 95 to 100. IME Yonex racquets are the best QC and probably the best PJs. But for players with long fast strokes I don't think they consistently compete with Babs and Wilson models.
Modern Yonex racquets don't appear to be able to take much punishment either. The "Hi tech" materials used in the racquets don't seem to give the racquets a lot of strength in comparison to other manufs.. I've seen a few situations on court where a Yonex racquet has cracked easily where Babs and Wilson's haven't but YMMV.
I used to be a fervent believer of that philosophy too. And most of the Tennis Coaches I talk to tend to peddle the same thing.
However, I don't agree any longer. I have see many players transform their game simply by switching racquet brands. It makes sense, as different racquets are made of different materials which react differently. The transformation is probably less for Elite or Professional players but it depends on the player. Remember Agassi switching from Prince to Donnay? And hasn't Wozniacki gone from Babolat to Yonex and back to Babolat? I'm astounded that Nishikori can't find a Yonex racquet to suit his game. Would have thought he would be the ideal Yonex ambassador.
Personally though, I think STRINGS are much more important and influence things more than anything else, all other things being equal.
Yonex has been promoting its products for quite some time now.
I don't see Federer, Nadal or Djokovic who are the really consistently heavy shot makers using Yonex. One thing to hit the odd big Finishing shot. Another thing to do it all the time and win lots and lots of BIG tournaments.
Nick and Stan aren't using stock models - and I think the sticks they are using are a lot further away from stock models than the ones Roger and Rafa use.
Chung has had some decent wins recently but he is not really what I would call a BIG hitter.
And IMO, Shapo. would be just as successful, if not more so, if he had stayed with Wilson. He jumped for the money, not because it was a better racquet. In years to come I think Wilson will regret not looking after Shapo. and perhaps Wilson might tempt him back to the fold. Anyway, those guys and all the sponsored Yonex players get new racquets all the time. Most of us don't.
Afaic, Yonex is riding a bit of a "Flavour of the Month" wave atm. Will be interesting to see if it has the longevity at the Elite level that Wilson, Babolat and Head have had.
One unique thing is that a lot of Yonex's best products are still M.I.J. How long before all the manuf. is moved offshore to China? And what might that do to its products is anyone's guess. (I do realise some Yonex sticks are already M.I.C.)
I said, IMO Yonex racquets do not produce heavy balls in comparison to Babolat and Wilson models. Of course, the right combination of player, customised racquet and string can produce heavy balls with any racquet. It's just that I think that it is easier to produce the heaviest balls with other manufs. models.
Good lord it looks freaking amazing in real life. Much better looking than the website picture.
Good lord it looks freaking amazing in real life. Much better looking than the website picture.
That's what I wanted to say, more boxy! Love box beamsIn the japanese video there are closeups up of the paint. It appears to have a distinct wrinkly/tactile texture to it that I really like the look of. I also like that the frame is slightly more boxy this time around compared to the thin albeit more rounded Duel G frames.
That's what I wanted to say, more boxy! Love box beams
I was planning on purchasing a matching set but after hearing so much good about the QA and extremely small discrepancy’s, I’m now considering just buying one and maybe purchasing one at a later date. Any thoughts on that?
Thanks. Seems like good advice.If you are a big fan of Yonex I think your best bet is to purchase a matched set from the same batch. I've always done this with every brand I purchase and Yonex frames appear to be no different in that regard.
Otherwise, if you purchase one. Just take a note of its unstrung specs in terms of static weight, racquet balance, and swingweight. File that information away and refer to it when you purchase your next one.
I don’t know of anyone selling yet.Who's selling now?! Smaller distributors? TW won't have pre-orders until Monday.