Yonex Vcore Pro 97

[Janssoni]

The lower swing weight of the VCP97 310 might be causing you to swing harder or alter your swing technique when serving. Measure your VCP97's specs and see if they match up with your TC97?

Thx for response. My TC97 is 330g unstrung with 305mm balance (12HL) so its significantly heavier than my VCP97. Tc97 was too heavy after 1,5 hour of playing so I wanted lighter and more manoeuvrable racquet. Ure right, im probably hitting harder with vcp97.

 

[kblades]

I use 1.25mm gut / 1.20mm yptp - really like it

What tension are you stringing it at?


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[zettavaska]

What tension are you stringing it at?


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56/52 in the summer and 54/50 in the winter. Been averaging about 30 hours of singles play (or around 50 hours of mixed play) before it pops. Only using on hard courts, not on clay or Har-Tru. I keep a poly/poly stick around for damp days and clay

 

[Murray_fan1]

Going back to Pro 97 310 after a brief flirtation with a VCore 95 and the Srixon CX 200 Tour. Both are great sticks in their own way but the added forgiveness of the 310 won out in the end.

 

[hurworld]

Thx for response. My TC97 is 330g unstrung with 305mm balance (12HL) so its significantly heavier than my VCP97. Tc97 was too heavy after 1,5 hour of playing so I wanted lighter and more manoeuvrable racquet. Ure right, im probably hitting harder with vcp97.

Time to lead up your VCP97

 

[kblades]

Played my first set of doubles with the 310 today. Still honeymooning for sure, but I am really enjoying this frame. Even in stock form it’s just an all around great stick for my game. I’m still on the mend as far as my elbow goes so for now I’m using a full bed of gut. Definitely missing some spin I’m used to having, but man does it feel so much better on my arm versus my previous setup. I went ahead and ordered a second one, hoping Yonex’s QC is as good as advertised and it will be pretty close in specs to the one I already have.


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[Power Player]

I got the 310s tweaked to perfection and of course now I am leaning towards using the Extreme MP. Why? It really fits my style of play (I competed a few years ago with the IG pro) and I love how big it plays for being so light. I would say that on full swings, the power level of the MP is not dramatically \bigger than the 310, but it’s definitely heavier for me simply due to the spin . The thing that surprises me is that the Extreme is quite good at the net when I go up there, and that the control is very precise for being so open patterned.

I’m testing these frames out against 5.5 level players at times. They crush the ball and hit huge, so its the ultimate way to see what frames still give me a fighting chance in points. The reality is that I have hit some insane defensive shots with the MP that a 4.0 or 4.5 would not be able to attack, but these guys are so good that they can still put those balls away for winners. What really gets me points against these guys is that I can generate a lot of spin with the Extreme due to it’s unique specs. It’s very light but has a high SW and that works well for me. That spin keeps them behind the baseline more often and the underspin off slices can wrong foot them, as it generates some crazy bounces.

For me its all about my personal level of swing speed, so for everyone its different. I get really nice timing and contact with the stock MP with a more relaxed swing. With the 310, I get the same, but it takes a little more work since it’s more of a control frame.

Ive gone back and forth between player frames and power ones but I’m really seeing the benefit of light frames with higher SWs for how I play. It’s a shame there are not many out there. But Ill definitely be checking out the new Blades and see how that goes. For now I’m leaning towards putting the modded 310s up for sale just because I have way too many frames right now and need to clear some out. I can check out the new version when it comes out and see what has changed. I really love the feel of these racquets a lot, but I guess you can’t have it all, unfortunately.

 

[HolyMountain]

Have 2 racquets - one strung with Lux ALU Ice (56lb) and one with Wilson Champions Choice (58lb/56lb). Love the gut one but when I get a little timid I start hitting out and always switch the the full poly. Today played a long 3 set match and def. have an ache on the outside of my arm above my elbow - tricep side. My buddy at the tennis shop thinks A) I am lagging as the racquet is so heavy - I don't buy this B) I should try 4g at like 50lbs. Thoughts? I have a huge serve, like to volley a LOT, decent backhand and good forehand when I am not being chicken - sadly, I am often chicken lol

 

[HolyMountain]

I hit with my wife Head Instinct MP the other day as well, holy crap did it have some zip - I just don't like light racquets . No plenty of former Division 1 guys that play with 10.6 oz Babolats. I just find it unlikely that 20grams is messing up my whole game - I am 6'5" 220lbs and in good shape.

 

[Power Player]

Have 2 racquets - one strung with Lux ALU Ice (56lb) and one with Wilson Champions Choice (58lb/56lb). Love the gut one but when I get a little timid I start hitting out and always switch the the full poly. Today played a long 3 set match and def. have an ache on the outside of my arm above my elbow - tricep side. My buddy at the tennis shop thinks A) I am lagging as the racquet is so heavy - I don't buy this B) I should try 4g at like 50lbs. Thoughts? I have a huge serve, like to volley a LOT, decent backhand and good forehand when I am not being chicken - sadly, I am often chicken lol

You'd probably need to post video of your strokes or else this is all a guess. Majority of rec players arm the ball to some degree and it can cause issues. The hardest thing to learn is to hit loose over and over and not tighten up and use your muscles instead. Are you getting your outside foot behind the ball, staying low and driving up on the swing with a loose arm?

 

[HolyMountain]

My 2 biggest forehand issues are tightening up, letting the ball get to close, and my left foot popping open too soon - that’s 3! It’s true really on all strokes - relaxed yet focused

 

[HolyMountain]

I also think I really need to decide how long to run my Lux ALU Power. I have a constant pull stringer so its not an issue to redo them. It does seem that they are the best strings ever - for a week. But I don't know if I am tripping.

 

[Power Player]

I also think I really need to decide how long to run my Lux ALU Power. I have a constant pull stringer so its not an issue to redo them. It does seem that they are the best strings ever - for a week. But I don't know if I am tripping.

Alu power is best if you are a pro who restrings all the time. It lasts maybe 6 hours max. Id suggest rs lyon or max power rough

 

[HolyMountain]

I love stringing - cough cough my wife - but I don’t think she will once a day. Pondered gut/poly again or ALU Soft. I’ll check the ones you mentioned

 

[HolyMountain]

What is a good timeline for restringing polys? Playing 2hrs a day, 5 days a week minimum ? Generally speaking

 

[isukatennis]

I got the 310s tweaked to perfection and of course now I am leaning towards using the Extreme MP. Why? It really fits my style of play (I competed a few years ago with the IG pro) and I love how big it plays for being so light. I would say that on full swings, the power level of the MP is not dramatically \bigger than the 310, but it’s definitely heavier for me simply due to the spin . The thing that surprises me is that the Extreme is quite good at the net when I go up there, and that the control is very precise for being so open patterned.

I’m testing these frames out against 5.5 level players at times. They crush the ball and hit huge, so its the ultimate way to see what frames still give me a fighting chance in points. The reality is that I have hit some insane defensive shots with the MP that a 4.0 or 4.5 would not be able to attack, but these guys are so good that they can still put those balls away for winners. What really gets me points against these guys is that I can generate a lot of spin with the Extreme due to it’s unique specs. It’s very light but has a high SW and that works well for me. That spin keeps them behind the baseline more often and the underspin off slices can wrong foot them, as it generates some crazy bounces.

For me its all about my personal level of swing speed, so for everyone its different. I get really nice timing and contact with the stock MP with a more relaxed swing. With the 310, I get the same, but it takes a little more work since it’s more of a control frame.

Ive gone back and forth between player frames and power ones but I’m really seeing the benefit of light frames with higher SWs for how I play. It’s a shame there are not many out there. But Ill definitely be checking out the new Blades and see how that goes. For now I’m leaning towards putting the modded 310s up for sale just because I have way too many frames right now and need to clear some out. I can check out the new version when it comes out and see what has changed. I really love the feel of these racquets a lot, but I guess you can’t have it all, unfortunately.

Wait...what?

 

[zettavaska]

Just tested out the 2g total setup at 10/2 o’clock over the weekend. Definitely better than stock.

Still not sure if I like it better than my 1.5g at 12 o’clock set-up. Will test again later this week and post feedback.

Circling back. Testing a 3g total setup at 10&2 o’clock. Thinking this might be it for me. Want to do a couple more sessions. Also concluding that 2g total setup at 10&2 o’clock is preferable to 1.5g at 12 o’clock

 

[mad dog1]

What is a good timeline for restringing polys? Playing 2hrs a day, 5 days a week minimum ? Generally speaking

Depends on many factors...

What gauge poly? How hard do you hit? How much topspin do you play with? What kind of balls are you facing?

 

[Yoneyama]

Hopefully we see the new paintjob in Stan's match today.

 

[hurworld]

I got the 310s tweaked to perfection and of course now I am leaning towards using the Extreme MP. Why? It really fits my style of play (I competed a few years ago with the IG pro) and I love how big it plays for being so light. I would say that on full swings, the power level of the MP is not dramatically \bigger than the 310, but it’s definitely heavier for me simply due to the spin . The thing that surprises me is that the Extreme is quite good at the net when I go up there, and that the control is very precise for being so open patterned.

I’m testing these frames out against 5.5 level players at times. They crush the ball and hit huge, so its the ultimate way to see what frames still give me a fighting chance in points. The reality is that I have hit some insane defensive shots with the MP that a 4.0 or 4.5 would not be able to attack, but these guys are so good that they can still put those balls away for winners. What really gets me points against these guys is that I can generate a lot of spin with the Extreme due to it’s unique specs. It’s very light but has a high SW and that works well for me. That spin keeps them behind the baseline more often and the underspin off slices can wrong foot them, as it generates some crazy bounces.

For me its all about my personal level of swing speed, so for everyone its different. I get really nice timing and contact with the stock MP with a more relaxed swing. With the 310, I get the same, but it takes a little more work since it’s more of a control frame.

Ive gone back and forth between player frames and power ones but I’m really seeing the benefit of light frames with higher SWs for how I play. It’s a shame there are not many out there. But Ill definitely be checking out the new Blades and see how that goes. For now I’m leaning towards putting the modded 310s up for sale just because I have way too many frames right now and need to clear some out. I can check out the new version when it comes out and see what has changed. I really love the feel of these racquets a lot, but I guess you can’t have it all, unfortunately.

Good stuff PP. Always good to have baseline sticks AND player sticks in the bag for different occasions / mood / forms. That's why I still have my leaded up APD2013 in my bag all the time.

 

[hurworld]

More relevant news, I've finally decided to string my VCP97 up with Velocity (black) 1.30 / YPTF 1.25 at 52/47-48. Will see how it plays when it comes back from the stringer.

 

[Yoneyama]

Anyone got eyes on Wawrinkas match? Can't see it

 

[sleepyeg]

Anyone got eyes on Wawrinkas match? Can't see it

Watching the match, looks the same


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[Yoneyama]

Watching the match, looks the same


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[Power Player]

Wait...what?

Yeah i know it makes no sense for the suddeness but the higher level players i play with the more its about grinding and movement. I just started regularly playing with crazy good players and i just need to get as many balls back as possible- deep with a lot of spin. I was playing attacking all court tennis for the past few years and the 310 is amazing for that.

 

[markwillplay]

Howe is this stick with something like full velocity? I am starting to look at frames that have more innate power than my Prince Tour 100 18 20s. I may not switch as I have tried several times before, however, this frame interests me because of thin beam and maybe a lil more power with slightly higher launch. I do not use poly now. Tours are weighted up to 12.4.

 

[Power Player]

Howe is this stick with something like full velocity? I am starting to look at frames that have more innate power than my Prince Tour 100 18 20s. I may not switch as I have tried several times before, however, this frame interests me because of thin beam and maybe a lil more power with slightly higher launch. I do not use poly now. Tours are weighted up to 12.4.

I tried Origin in it. It was OK, pretty good control but I really don’t like Multi’s much.

 

[AA7]

Howe is this stick with something like full velocity? I am starting to look at frames that have more innate power than my Prince Tour 100 18 20s. I may not switch as I have tried several times before, however, this frame interests me because of thin beam and maybe a lil more power with slightly higher launch. I do not use poly now. Tours are weighted up to 12.4.

I play with full bed velocity. yellow velo. i like it. strung at 53/51.

 

[aaron_h27]

I got the 310s tweaked to perfection and of course now I am leaning towards using the Extreme MP. Why? It really fits my style of play (I competed a few years ago with the IG pro) and I love how big it plays for being so light. I would say that on full swings, the power level of the MP is not dramatically \bigger than the 310, but it’s definitely heavier for me simply due to the spin . The thing that surprises me is that the Extreme is quite good at the net when I go up there, and that the control is very precise for being so open patterned.

I’m testing these frames out against 5.5 level players at times. They crush the ball and hit huge, so its the ultimate way to see what frames still give me a fighting chance in points. The reality is that I have hit some insane defensive shots with the MP that a 4.0 or 4.5 would not be able to attack, but these guys are so good that they can still put those balls away for winners. What really gets me points against these guys is that I can generate a lot of spin with the Extreme due to it’s unique specs. It’s very light but has a high SW and that works well for me. That spin keeps them behind the baseline more often and the underspin off slices can wrong foot them, as it generates some crazy bounces.

For me its all about my personal level of swing speed, so for everyone its different. I get really nice timing and contact with the stock MP with a more relaxed swing. With the 310, I get the same, but it takes a little more work since it’s more of a control frame.

Ive gone back and forth between player frames and power ones but I’m really seeing the benefit of light frames with higher SWs for how I play. It’s a shame there are not many out there. But Ill definitely be checking out the new Blades and see how that goes. For now I’m leaning towards putting the modded 310s up for sale just because I have way too many frames right now and need to clear some out. I can check out the new version when it comes out and see what has changed. I really love the feel of these racquets a lot, but I guess you can’t have it all, unfortunately.

Just put some lead at noon on your 310's?

But i agree high SW is a must for 5.0-5.5. It's easier to play relaxed with a 340+ SW versus 320 or so.

 

[isukatennis]

Yeah i know it makes no sense for the suddeness but the higher level players i play with the more its about grinding and movement. I just started regularly playing with crazy good players and i just need to get as many balls back as possible- deep with a lot of spin. I was playing attacking all court tennis for the past few years and the 310 is amazing for that.

I feel ya... if im playing singles and know they will keep me back, i use my DR98's... I play a lot of doubles and the 310 fits well there.

 

[Power Player]

Just put some lead at noon on your 310's?

But i agree high SW is a must for 5.0-5.5. It's easier to play relaxed with a 340+ SW versus 320 or so.

It’s not just the SW. It’s the fact that I can use a 320 gram frame and generate a lot of spin and pace. I don’t even need a high 340 SW. In fact,I don’t go by numbers too much, I go by my feel and timing. Am I hitting out in front constantly against the heaviest of hitters? That’s really my main criteria. I guess the Extreme is high 320s SW if I had to but I haven’t had access to an RDC in years.

I swing super relaxed with my Phantom 93. It’s awesome, but I don’t generate the same amount of spin that I can with the Extreme. That spin helps me win points or stay in them more than anything. The rest is really about movement and fitness of course.

 

[aaron_h27]

It’s not just the SW. It’s the fact that I can use a 320 gram frame and generate a lot of spin and pace. I don’t even need a high 340 SW. In fact,I don’t go by numbers too much, I go by my feel and timing. Am I hitting out in front constantly against the heaviest of hitters? That’s really my main criteria. I guess the Extreme is high 320s SW if I had to but I haven’t had access to an RDC in years.

I swing super relaxed with my Phantom 93. It’s awesome, but I don’t generate the same amount of spin that I can with the Extreme. That spin helps me win points or stay in them more than anything. The rest is really about movement and fitness of course.

Bigger headsize, less HL balance, low static sounds like what you like.

 

[Power Player]

Bigger headsize, less HL balance, low static sounds like what you like.

Yeah. It’s rare to find. The Blade, Extreme MP, Tec 305, PA+ have it right. I am sure there are others but those are what come to mind.

The HL balance worked really,really well on the prince 93 and the 310 is incredibly pleasurable to hit with. But I find that with a light weight frame as long as the balance is more even, I can generate a lot of spin and pace.

 

[hurworld]

Yeah. It’s rare to find. The Blade, Extreme MP, Tec 305, PA+ have it right. I am sure there are others but those are what come to mind.

The HL balance worked really,really well on the prince 93 and the 310 is incredibly pleasurable to hit with. But I find that with a light weight frame as long as the balance is more even, I can generate a lot of spin and pace.

The Gamma Bubba is calling your name

 

[Power Player]

The Gamma Bubba is calling your name

Lol. Huge frames = low tip speed. At least for me

 

[Tour_G]

Yeah. It’s rare to find. The Blade, Extreme MP, Tec 305, PA+ have it right. I am sure there are others but those are what come to mind.

The HL balance worked really,really well on the prince 93 and the 310 is incredibly pleasurable to hit with. But I find that with a light weight frame as long as the balance is more even, I can generate a lot of spin and pace.

Speed pro sounds perfect for you. It's exactly how I remember it.
But, anyway, I hated it for the same reason. At some point, its balance and polarized setup was kinda weird, but it was able to generate a lot of top spin with nice control and plow.
BTW I'm talking about the first Graphene Speed.

 

[Power Player]

Speed pro sounds perfect for you. It's exactly how I remember it.
But, anyway, I hated it for the same reason. At some point, its balance and polarized setup was kinda weird, but it was able to generate a lot of top spin with nice control and plow.
BTW I'm talking about the first Graphene Speed.

I had one of those. I think it was the Speed MP. I liked it but didn’t love it for whatever reason. It was definitely a frame I could plays with though.

 

[mad dog1]

I had one of those. I think it was the Speed MP. I liked it but didn’t love it for whatever reason. It was definitely a frame I could plays with though.

Graphene Speed MP doesn’t have good feel. Felt like a 2x4.

 

[Power Player]

Graphene Speed MP doesn’t have good feel. Felt like a 2x4.

Yeah I didn't like the feel much of that one. It did have a nice sized sweet spot though, but it just wasn't that special to me.

 

[mad dog1]

Yeah I didn't like the feel much of that one. It did have a nice sized sweet spot though, but it just wasn't that special to me.

Agreed.

 

[fundrazer]

Were these discounted again? If I remember correctly they were marked down 229 to 209, now 189.

Getting closer to the new ones I guess. Really curious about the possible 18x20. Gonna be a full blown racquetholic by the end of the year.

 

[kblades]

Were these discounted again? If I remember correctly they were marked down 229 to 209, now 189.

Getting closer to the new ones I guess. Really curious about the possible 18x20. Gonna be a full blown racquetholic by the end of the year.

Yes, they just dropped them another $20 yesterday to $189. I can’t believe they are coming out with new ones already with the current model having only been out now for just over a year. Has it been confirmed they are indeed coming out with newer versions and not just new PJ’s? Or is it still all just speculation?


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[richdvng]

Yes, they just dropped them another $20 yesterday to $189. I can’t believe they are coming out with new ones already with the current model having only been out now for just over a year. Has it been confirmed they are indeed coming out with newer versions and not just new PJ’s? Or is it still all just speculation?


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I think its just new PJs

 

[Power Player]

Damn, it’s a steal for $189.

 

[fundrazer]

Damn, it’s a steal for $189.

Racquet companies have conditioned us to the point that this feels like a significant discount.

I remember getting my Microgel Prestige MPs about a year into their cycle for 189.

 

[Power Player]

Racquet companies have conditioned us to the point that this feels like a significant discount.

I remember getting my Microgel Prestige MPs about a year into their cycle for 189.

Well considering the original cost its a really good deal. Prices aren't coming down anytime soon on the top models and im sure the new pj will be $50 or so more. The microgel came out like 10 years ago.

That said i bought the new extreme mp for $149. Have to give head props for selling such a great frame so cheaply.

 

[kblades]

Delete

 

[Gamechanger]

Yeah i know it makes no sense for the suddeness but the higher level players i play with the more its about grinding and movement. I just started regularly playing with crazy good players and i just need to get as many balls back as possible- deep with a lot of spin. I was playing attacking all court tennis for the past few years and the 310 is amazing for that.

Sometimes, no often i read your posts and think i have could write exactly the same... But honestly, i really would like to have read from you that you write such a Thing as " i can kick a 5.5 Player out of the Box with my tuned VCore Pro."

 

[Power Player]

Sometimes, no often i read your posts and think i have could write exactly the same... But honestly, i really would like to have read from you that you write such a Thing as " i can kick a 5.5 Player out of the Box with my tuned VCore Pro."

Haha! Yeah. I think that will boil down to serious footwork and improvements on my end. The frame can only do so much!

 

[taylor15]

I found the new cult All of the 93p disciples left for, ha! I may demo this frame, specs are in line with what I am used to. I’ve left the 93p mostly and playing with my old Dunlop 200 lites again (leather brings them to 340 strung). This seems to be in my wheelhouse and is discounted.