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I pulled the trigger; VCORE 95 is on the way. Strung with Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 at 45 lbs (i.e., a soft setup).
I did also order one, will string it with Hyper-G 1.20mm thinking 23/22kg...
I pulled the trigger; VCORE 95 is on the way. Strung with Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 at 45 lbs (i.e., a soft setup).
The Yonex generates a lot of spin, it's almost the key objective of the VCORE line (not the Pro). I see your preference is for the Angell 18x20 so this VCORE would have a much higher trajectory than you're probably looking for.
Re comfort the Angell is still a clear winner. I'm not feeling any "electric shocks" in the elbow which I usually associate with tennis elbow. But my arm definitely knows it's played a lot of tennis. The last few weeks I've been playing with a Head Graphene Touch Radical Pro and now the last week this VCORE 98 305.
Power is interesting. The VCORE turns what might otherwise be straight line power and converts it into spin, so the sensation of power is different. It still is able to hit a heavy ball. Given that the weight and SW of the VCORE 98 305 are considerably lower than my Angel V3 TC95 63RA 16x19 (that's a mouthful) that's a decent accomplishment.
I did also order one, will string it with Hyper-G 1.20mm thinking 23/22kg...
you can read my previous posts. Ask me specific questions if you need more details.Anyone please gives a comparison between the Vcore 98 vs the Pure Aero? I do understand that they both stand out for spin potential.
Thanks
Gonna put some Signum Pro Yellow Jacket in my 98 today. Any try that string?
Anyone else waiting to read the written review?
Anyone else waiting to read the written review?
What's wrong with my random sentences?!Anyone else waiting to read the written review?
The TW one? How much does it vary from the video reviews? I'm assuming just a bit more in-depth.
I agree. Video reviews are cool. But the written reviews are way better if you actually want some detail.I want to know some specifics like what they feel are some of its downsides.
Sean mentioned in the TW Questions thread that he felt a slight jarring sensation out of the sweetspot, so he would add lead toward the upper part of the hoop.
I never played the frame stock, so curious just to read more in-depth with how people like him, Jason, and Chris thought, the guys who have played the other popular Yonex stick's.
I myself am taking out my slightly modified frame out for 3 hours of hitting tonight with newly strung strings, tighter this time. Excited.
Generally when you struggle returning heavy balls (plowing through pace or topspin) and you get instabilityWhen do you know when you need more plowthrough? My balls are generally getting depth, but they’re not as big as I would like them to be. Obviously the first culprit I’m thinking is technique and stronger base and unit turn, but curious to know if this feel on the court with my 98 warrants more hoop lead.
I played an open level player today who hits an ATP ball. My feedback summized, is not feeling like I have enough power and speed on my balls.
Generally when you struggle returning heavy balls (plowing through pace or topspin) and you get instability
Equally when hitting a rally ball and it doesn't carry typically on sub 300 swing weight frames notable. Pick up a kids frame and hit and see what it feels like to exaggerate
Right. Only one way to find out if it will be better, add that weight and see the result.
More thoughts on my VCORE 98 compared to the EZONE 98 I was using for the last year. Remember, these are my opinions, react accordingly.
Current setup: Stock VCORE 98 w/ white Grap and black Poly Tour Strike 1.20mm at 45.
*VCORE has a lot more control - same amount of power
*I get more control on blocking the ball back on fast serves than I do with the EZONE that can spray it all over if I'm not on my A-game
*PolyTour Pro in the VCORE isn't my thang. I tried Strike in it tonight and loved it much more.
*I did have some initial arm discomfort with the PolyTour Pro (1.20mm). I strung both strings at 45.
*^ that's a little interesting because I played with the DR100 (TW RA of 69) and had no issues...
*I did not care for Strike in the EZONE at all, but it's good in the VCORE though
*I don't really get more spin with this racquet, trajectory is neither higher nor lower compared to the EZONE
*EZONE = butterfly net, VCORE = frying pan (both strung at 45)
*There is a slightly heavier swing weight with the VCORE, I definitely shanked a few balls before getting used to it
*The firmness doesn't bother me anymore with the Strike in the racquet, it only slightly did with the PolyTour Pro
*Comfort might be a wash because EZONE was so finicky with strings
*I feel like I have more control on my volleys with the VCORE
*I feel like there's more stability on the VCORE
*One opponent felt like I had deeper shots with the VCORE. One opponent felt like I had more powerful/penetrating shots with the EZONE.
*No brassiness even out side of the sweet spot
*EZONE had some hideous feel up towards the top of the hoop - some strings highlighted that Hyper-G material in such a bad light.
* This does feel like the Yonex version of the Pure Strike
Bottom line: My game didn't drastically change and I didn't garner more twitter followers as a result of switching. I do have a renewed sense of optimism in my game since I've switched. Ask me again when the honeymoon period is over.
You will definitely get more power and weight to your shots... but two things are also true... With great power comes great responsibility (you will need to control and channel that power, otherwise the balls will go out faster and with lots of weight to them)... and technique and physical conditioning (strength) will have a massive effect, in both instances (with weight added and without).
Hi Tordne and any other Ezone100 users: Could you please post your thoughts how the vcore98 compares? In particular which is more arm friendly?Poly Tour Fire 17 string just arrived, so naturally I've just strung it up. It feels very slippery, was very easy to weave the crosses though the mains. Might have to see if I can skive off and have a quick hit shortly.
Hi Tordne and any other Ezone100 users: Could you please post your thoughts how the vcore98 compares? In particular which is more arm friendly?
I’ve been hitting the ezone100 recently and the vcore98 looks appealing. Hoping the vcore is a touch better in the comfort stakes.
Much appreciatedI’d say the VCORE 98 305 is more arm friendly than the EZONE 100 300. But, it’s too early to tell yet if the VCORE is going to be comfortable enough for me. I’ve been feeling it a bit this week (and not hit since Tuesday). I’ll be playing again tomorrow night so will try some more. This time I’m trying the Poly Tour Fire string so I’ve removed the modification weight.
Vcore pro is more control oriented with little power. it has good spin.I hit with a demo Yonex VCORE Pro 97 today. Compared to the Babolate Pure Aero I've been using for a couple years it's more stable, seems to have less power and more control. Took some getting used to, but I liked it. I also demoed a Babs Pure Strike VS (hated it; like hitting with a board) and a Wilson Blade 98s (tons of spin, zero/negative power, not as stable as the VP98 at the net). I was thinking of picking up the VP97, but decided to research here first. So, one quick question:
How does the VCORE Pro 98 compare to the new VCORE 97? None available to demo locally, so I'm looking for some input on the differences I could expect. Thanks in advance!
Played with it for 2 hitting sessions strung with Ytex Quado Twist at 55, it's soft, very spin friendly, lots of power which needs to be tamed since i'm transitioning from the DR 98. Added weight at 3 & 9 and also in the handle to add more plow and stability, it played significantly better, still need to tame the power a bit and i thin it's because of the string as it's softer than the PTP which i used to play with.
Will hit with PTP strung at the same tension and report back, hopefully it will be better in the control aspect
heavier and powerful poly will work better. and yonex can take it where as babolat can't. yonex has more soft feel easier on the arm so it can get away with more harsher polyThe VCORE 98 feels like a Babolat racquet to me in terms of response, but with a Yonex feel. I'm back to square one with finding a suitable string for it.
On a customization POV, the racquet may need more plow, but I will have to see if it hinders my level at all with more mass in the hoop.
What characteristics are you looking for in a string?The VCORE 98 feels like a Babolat racquet to me in terms of response, but with a Yonex feel. I'm back to square one with finding a suitable string for it.
What characteristics are you looking for in a string?
I'm quite happy with PolyTour Strike, 1.20mm at 45. I know you think that's crazy. I ordered 10 packs while they're still on sale!
Forgot to ask. Anyone tried a gut / poly hybrid in the VCORE 98 305?
Personally as someone who used gut / poly in my Graphene Speed Pro and my AI/DR 98, this racquet would become too powerful (for me).
What characteristics are you looking for in a string?The VCORE 98 feels like a Babolat racquet to me in terms of response, but with a Yonex feel. I'm back to square one with finding a suitable string for it.
I recommend you try Fire at 48. Fire was more comfortable in the EZONE 98 for me and it has a consistent response and pocketing. It is slippery-er than Pro or Strike. And it's a little more cushioned than those two.I need something that I've never looked for in a string. Prior to this racquet, I needed spring from my string bed and some supplemental power to add to the more control forward feel. Funny, I was using the wrong set up as a kid for what I needed, PHT/VS Gut in a dense 18x20 Head. I wound up playing that string set up for most of my developmental years.
With the decision to try PTP 1.25 at 49, I'm hoping to gain more of a consistent response and one that has above average comfort. The PTS 1.20 and 1.25 were a dream to hit with, zero forearm pressure. I am looking to improve from the PTS, the slippery feel and lack of time the ball pockets on the string bed. I did hit the PTP 1.25 in the VC98 I use, but it was at 46 and it was slightly launchy but from my few rallies, it definitely was a lot more predictable launch angle and power wise than the PTS. I never tried PTS 1.20 in the VC98 simply because I would probably lose playing characteristics in this more open pattern in a matter of hours. 1.20 polyesters was my choice of gauge when I experimented playing full polyester in my DR 98, with strings like ALU Thin and PTP 120 some of my favorites.
What characteristics are you looking for in a string?
I'm quite happy with PolyTour Strike, 1.20mm at 45. I know you think that's crazy. I ordered 10 packs while they're still on sale1
I recommend you try Fire at 48. Fire was more comfortable in the EZONE 98 for me and it has a consistent response and pocketing. It is slippery-er than Pro or Strike. And it's a little more cushioned than those two.
In the DR98, PTP 120 at 45 was my go-to. With the EZONE98, it was Fire 120 at 45. Now with the VCORE 98, I'm currently with Strike 120 at 45. Haven't tried Fire in it, yet, but will soon.
Try Fire anyway, dang it! Even if it only confirms what you think it does. You won't truly know until you try. #TestThatHypothesisMore slippery probably isn't good. I want something that can pocket the ball a bit better because I'm losing the ability to manipulate the ball with my shots. With the slippery coating of the Strike, the ball hits my string and it's out in a time frame that is faster than anything I'm accustomed to by a decent margin. To be quite honest, I don't think Fire is used either by any of the Yonex players. If it was meant to be a leap ahead of PTP, it surely isn't being recognized by the world's top. Believe Kyrgios to be the only high level player playing the 1.20, but it does make sense since he does use a stiffer XI and the racquet is a denser 16x19.
I'm a 1.20 guy like you in the tighter 8 main frames, but with this one, man I just have to reverse think a bit from what I'm accustomed to gravitating toward. I'm playing PTP 16L at 49 tomorrow night. Will post thoughts later.
Try Fire anyway, dang it! Even if it only confirms what you think it does. You won't truly know until you try. #TestThatHypothesis
It has a cushier feeling than Pro and Strike, so it can perceivable give you dwell time. PolyTour Air has more give, too.
I think it is the best Yonex string all around, shame it only comes in red.
It’s the only Yonex string I’ve tried, and in the 1.20 gauge. But I really like it so far. I’ll be interested to see what’s it’s like in a few more hours.
I concur - except for Air. I think Air is good for a few days, then the tension drops off the board overnight.In my experience Yonex strings don't go dead really fast. I remember fire having a really decent playability for a long time and that it doesn't lose too much tension.
I concur - except for Air. I think Air is good for a few days, then the tension drops off the board overnight.
More slippery probably isn't good. I want something that can pocket the ball a bit better because I'm losing the ability to manipulate the ball with my shots. With the slippery coating of the Strike, the ball hits my string and it's out in a time frame that is faster than anything I'm accustomed to by a decent margin. To be quite honest, I don't think Fire is used either by any of the Yonex players. If it was meant to be a leap ahead of PTP, it surely isn't being recognized by the world's top. Believe Kyrgios to be the only high level player playing the 1.20, but it does make sense since he does use a stiffer XI and the racquet is a denser 16x19.
I'm a 1.20 guy like you in the tighter 8 main frames, but with this one, man I just have to reverse think a bit from what I'm accustomed to gravitating toward. I'm playing PTP 16L at 49 tomorrow night. Will post thoughts later.
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My 95 is here
I'll test it out tonight and post a brief review. Then I'll update once the honeymoon phase is out. Also, TW threw in a Luxilon overgrip, so I figured I'd use it now. Tourna leather grip and overgrip will be put on manana.
https://ibb.co/k5sKsK
My 95 is here
I'll test it out tonight and post a brief review. Then I'll update once the honeymoon phase is out. Also, TW threw in a Luxilon overgrip, so I figured I'd use it now. Tourna leather grip and overgrip will be put on manana.
Try Fire anyway, dang it! Even if it only confirms what you think it does. You won't truly know until you try. #TestThatHypothesis
It has a cushier feeling than Pro and Strike, so it can perceivable give you dwell time. PolyTour Air has more give, too.