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AllCourtHeathen

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Faaark these playtests aren't filling me with optimism.

I don't think I'm ever going to find the perfect racquet.

Even demoing racquets from a shop isn't a great guide because they are often strung with dead poly or other crap.

I think I'll sacrifice my two pure strike's to Odin, break 'em up and set 'em on fire, and he hope he grants me a magical SV95 that does everything I want
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
They playtested the frame stock. It's really better at 340 plus. Also, there is no pefect frame, just one that feels nice and improves your chances of winning matches.

Their review of the 95D was less than riveting and it's a pro stock frame.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Faaark these playtests aren't filling me with optimism.

I don't think I'm ever going to find the perfect racquet.

Even demoing racquets from a shop isn't a great guide because they are often strung with dead poly or other crap.

I think I'll sacrifice my two pure strike's to Odin, break 'em up and set 'em on fire, and he hope he grants me a magical SV95 that does everything I want
No such thing as a perfect racquet. Just enjoy the ability to try all these wonderful racquets and experience the subtle difference of each one.
 
Did you tried the Duel G 310? If so, could you compare it with the SV 95? Thanks!
I've played with both and in my opinion they are nothing alike. The 95 sv is extremely high powered and in my opinion very difficult to control. The duel g 310 has great control but can be low powered with out a big stroke and it is very difficult to volley with. I like the duel g 310 much more.
 
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AllCourtHeathen

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No such thing as a perfect racquet. Just enjoy the ability to try all these wonderful racquets and experience the subtle difference of each one.
I don't mean that there is THE perfect racquet, I mean that IMO there is a perfect racquet for each individual, that mates just right with their stroke style, power level, style of play, etc. And that it is hard to sort through them all to find it. Given the preponderance of strings, and the fact that stock frames don't even resemble leaded up frames.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
I don't mean that there is THE perfect racquet, I mean that IMO there is a perfect racquet for each individual, that mates just right with their stroke style, power level, style of play, etc. And that it is hard to sort through them all to find it. Given the preponderance of strings, and the fact that stock frames don't even resemble leaded up frames.
Well every frame along the way moves you closer to your individual ideal one, or at least closer to your individual ideal specs. I've known my specs for a good long time already but found my ideal frame just recently. Unsurprisingly, it has my ideal specs...
 

Hansen

Semi-Pro
played today one hour with the sv 95 strung with revolution nt hybrid.
in my opinion the racquet plays true to its specs.
relatively low launch angle, but still good spin potential. very good control and medium power.
the feel was definitely not plush and soft. So I wouldn´t recommend it to those with sensitive wrists or elbows.
 

BigM

Rookie
They playtested the frame stock. It's really better at 340 plus. Also, there is no pefect frame, just one that feels nice and improves your chances of winning matches.

Their review of the 95D was less than riveting and it's a pro stock frame.
This is so true and great advice.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I hope
I don't mean that there is THE perfect racquet, I mean that IMO there is a perfect racquet for each individual, that mates just right with their stroke style, power level, style of play, etc. And that it is hard to sort through them all to find it. Given the preponderance of strings, and the fact that stock frames don't even resemble leaded up frames.
Like OP mentioned, each racquet will move you closer to your racquet of choice. Since I join TT forum and started to play tennis, I have gone through 30 plus purchases and hundreds of racquet demos and transition from one racquet to another every two years.

I would say pick a solid string so you can take that out of the equation. I also take into consideration how a racquet feels in terms of whether it is stiff or plush. That alone removes quite a number of racquets from list.

But as a racquetholic, I just enjoy trying new frames and learning from others on here about what they like and dislike about the racquet even though they may not be the racquet for me.
 

Automatix

Hall of Fame
Their review of the 95D was less than riveting and it's a pro stock frame.
Sorry for derailing the thread but we only know the mold is the same. It can be a layup vastly different from retail. Look at Hewitt, it turned out at the end of his career he played with a racquet which was from a mold combining aspects of different retail models and even more so he supposedly tested numerous layups. What it shows you is that Yonex can go to great lengths for their players.

Even more so, assuming his racquet is based of the retail model, it is modded and thus plays differently than "stock". There are racquets which many "feel" that play much better once leaded up.

To continue... Keep in mind the racquet wasn't popular and didn't sell like crazy, it didn't get the "bestseller" tag on TW. It was the Tour G which got that. Why? Probably for many reasons but Wawrinka winning his first GS had to impact sales. But that's just it. A player wins with a paintjob and shazaaam! That particular imitated model sells. But that's sales driven by people who don't know. Sadly, our TT community isn't much better. Every model has its fans but most come & go without much talk after it ages unless a pro starts using that particular mold. Ohhh geez. When that happens out of nowhere people start popping up saying how could such a great racquet be discontinued. Yeah, so great it didn't sell. Aerostorm anyone? Vcore 95D? Good or bad, these racquets weren't exactly king and queen of the prom if you know what I mean.

And finally, the fact that a pro uses a mold/racquet/dampener doesn't make it magic and won't improve your game unless its specs actually correspond to your level of play, technique, style etc. It gets crazy enough that old Luxilon dampeners get sold for 20USDs or more. Now I'm not a person who tells other people how to spend their money but it is just a piece of purple rubber.

Sorry for the rant but the fact that a pro uses a certain mold can't be justification for a statement that its retail counterpart has to play good.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
My point was simply that TW reviews are not the end all be all of how good a frame is. The 95D is one of the most sought after Yonex frames since it's release. I don't want to get into all the nuances of pro stock etc, but many believe Warwrinka plays with the 95D with lead. If that is the case than he is using a PJ with the 95D under it, and that's all I meant.

The rest of the stuff you are saying I agree with and never said myself.
 

Automatix

Hall of Fame
My point was simply that TW reviews are not the end all be all of how good a frame is.
And I think everyone agrees with this.

The 95D is one of the most sought after Yonex frames since it's release.
It is my assumption that you can't provide data to prove this statement. Eyeballing or saying that a racquet sold at your neighbourhood or at your store can be area specific. I also don't have any specific data except for the fact that it didn't have the bestseller status, it didn't make top 5 new racquet sales in USA speciality stores and that they were quite a few on the bay as well as in stores in my country that just wouldn't sell.

I don't want to get into all the nuances of pro stock etc, but many believe Warwrinka plays with the 95D with lead.
And there is a logical argument for that but we have no certainty. As for the "pro stock" part the problem is if we assume material grade is the same then a pro stock would be nothing more than a light hairpin which can be brought to specs preferred by a player. Layup is a different animal eg. you prefer low RA, I prefer higher RA of viceversa. What that means is that a racquet isn't the holy grail just because it is used by a pro. It doesn't make it special, its the indian not the arrow yadda, yadda, yadda.

Sorry again. I promise not to continue this derailment but if you have any hard data on Vcore 95D sales I will gladly take a look. Cheers.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I have no idea what kind of point you are trying to argue here.

A lot of players loved the 95D, and it got similar reviews as the SV95. That's the main point here. I'm not going to argue about something trivial past that. Stan doesn't actually use it? Fine, no problem.
 

junk

Semi-Pro
if you have any hard data on Vcore 95D sales I will gladly take a look. Cheers.
it's just an anecdotal evidence, but over the last few months i spoke with a couple of Yonex reps and asked them why Yonex stopped making the 95D. both independently answered that it "simply did not sell well and yonex decided to discontinue it".

of course, if Stan-the-Man won his first GS in 2012 and not 2014, the sales of the 95D would've been quite different...

but neither of the above takes away from the fact that the 95D is a great racket. one of the best ever. bestseller or not...
 
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Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
but neither of the above take away from the fact that the 95D is a great racket. one of the best ever. bestseller or not...
That's really my main point. We all know the frame and it's a classic for many of us. I'm not going to dig up sales numbers or study what mold stan uses. That's overkill.
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
Well...you have to find what works best for you, plain and simple. I have played with some of the finest racquets available(or at least I'd like to think so...Fischers - MSpeed Pro, VT98Pro, Vacuum Mid, Wilson PS85/BLXPS90, Dunlops 4D100/4D200/Biomimetic300Tour, Donnay P1 International Supermidsize, Head PC600, Angell TC90/95...) but once I've tried and leaded up a Yonex VCT89 I am sold altogether.

I was forcing myself to play exclusively with Angell TC95 because I had excellent results and could not imagine a better racquet for me but the VCT89 is a frame I simply can not put down and enjoy everything it provides...something I've never experienced before and something I wish for every amateur tennis player to experience. Too bad the continuity is not there but it is a price I'm willing to pay.
 

Swan Song

Professional
it's just an anecdotal evidence, but over the last few months i spoke with a couple of Yonex reps and asked them why Yonex stopped making the 95D. both independently answered that it "simply did not sell well and yonex decided to discontinue it".

of course, if Stan-the-Man won his first GS in 2012 and not 2014, the sales of the 95D would've been quite different...

but neither of the above take away from the fact that the 95D is a great racket. one of the best ever. bestseller or not...
Also Yonex made the racquet in 2011 before Stan joined their payroll and Hewitt did not help sell the racquet as well.
 
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kimguroo

Legend
Looks like many people fantasize about 95D.
Honestly I have not played with 95D so I don't know how great 95d is.
Seems like 95D was not very popular until it was discontinued plus Stan's sucesss with his racket which we believe
Same mold as 95D. Honestly we don't know what exactly stan's racket is since Yonex designed his racket only for him.
There is a possibility 95D and actual Stan's racket might be completely different racket.
I don't think Yonex tried to release SV95 as newer version of 95D.
It looks like Vcore SV line is new version of vcore tour 97 and they eliminated 93 because of possible slow sale and want to keep small head size but with 95 instead of 93.
I was very curious about SV line in the beginning but Not much from reviews.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Well thats a shame because these racquets play fantastic.

Played more with it today and my suspicion is the frame feels like the strings you put in it. With full gut you will probably feel every single felt on the ball when hitting it. The ball feel on this racquet is just super clean, there is no muted feeling. This is not great for a string like Cyclone, but I suspect with a softer, more pocketing poly it could be awesome. That is what I plan to find out. I prefer no dampener still. Tried it for a bit, but it's not needed. The feel is just extremely honest.

This frame does not feel like a butter soft classic racquet. But it does allow you to have the extension of the arm feeling that can improve accuracy and touch on shots. One way to describe it is it feels like a 19mm beam. I keep thinking it's a thinner beam than it is.

The one thing I noticed today that is undeniable - this thing is just fantastic on serve. It's so easy to dial up big serves that I was going for them on first and second because I knew they'd go in.

Additionally volleys and drop shots are super precise. This is really a 95 that you can win matches with. I still need to trust the frame on backhand a little more, but I am playing very good tennis with this. I'd love to hear how the Bab Pure Strike compares so I'm looking forward to reading that, but I think the more people that hit the courts and play sets with this thing, the more they will be pleased.
 
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Readers

Professional
Played with 95, can't say much as it has some random poly sync on it. But overall the fell is crisp and solid, power is good but not too much, spin is very good, control is decent.
 
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AllCourtHeathen

Guest
Well thats a shame because these racquets play fantastic.

Played more with it today and my suspicion is the frame feels like the strings you put in it. With full gut you will probably feel every single felt on the ball when hitting it. The ball feel on this racquet is just super clean, there is no muted feeling. This is not great for a string like Cyclone, but I suspect with a softer, more pocketing poly it could be awesome. That is what I plan to find out. I prefer no dampener still. Tried it for a bit, but it's not needed. The feel is just extremely honest.

This frame does not feel like a butter soft classic racquet. But it does allow you to have the extension of the arm feeling that can improve accuracy and touch on shots. One way to describe it is it feels like a 19mm beam. I keep thinking it's a thinner beam than it is.

The one thing I noticed today that is undeniable - this thing is just fantastic on serve. It's so easy to dial up big serves that I was going for them on first and second because I knew they'd go in.

Additionally volleys and drop shots are super precise. This is really a 95 that you can win matches with. I still need to trust the frame on backhand a little more, but I am playing very good tennis with this. I'd love to hear how the Bab Pure Strike compares so I'm looking forward to reading that, but I think the more people that hit the courts and play sets with this thing, the more they will be pleased.
That gives me a little hope again. I just want a racquet that doesn't kill my arm, that I can swing out with, that feels like an extension of my arm.

Pure Strike 18x20 sucked.
AI98 is great on a fresh restring, then goes south, but nothing is really crisp or heavy even at its best.
Tec315ltd 18x20 is getting close, but something is missing.
If this vcore sv95 is a failure, I might try a vcore tourG 310 and lead it up.

I just dunno....
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
That gives me a little hope again. I just want a racquet that doesn't kill my arm, that I can swing out with, that feels like an extension of my arm.

Pure Strike 18x20 sucked.
AI98 is great on a fresh restring, then goes south, but nothing is really crisp or heavy even at its best.
Tec315ltd 18x20 is getting close, but something is missing.
If this vcore sv95 is a failure, I might try a vcore tourG 310 and lead it up.

I just dunno....
Yet again, try to find an Angell (either TC95 or TC97).
 
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AllCourtHeathen

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Yet again, try to find an Angell (either TC95 or TC97).
I've read about them, but just did not like the cult like hype.
I wish I could try a tec315 16 main.
serves, volleys and slice are perfect with the 18main, just my groundstrokes suck for whatever reason. The grip is wrong, needs the squarer pallet.
But I reckon the the right racquet is there amongst the pile of bodies that yonex has left lying around.
Guess its just "gonna take time and money" as george harrison said

I should get my SV95 tomorrow, according to parcel tracking, so I will try it tomorrow night, and will post my confused proletarian testimony afterwards
 

joohan

Hall of Fame
I've read about them, but just did not like the cult like hype.
I wish I could try a tec315 16 main.
serves, volleys and slice are perfect with the 18main, just my groundstrokes suck for whatever reason. The grip is wrong, needs the squarer pallet.
But I reckon the the right racquet is there amongst the pile of bodies that yonex has left lying around.
Guess its just "gonna take time and money" as george harrison said

I should get my SV95 tomorrow, according to parcel tracking, so I will try it tomorrow night, and will post my confused proletarian testimony afterwards
The hype is vert well deserved, they are that good and too good to pass by when looking for a new frame.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
That gives me a little hope again. I just want a racquet that doesn't kill my arm, that I can swing out with, that feels like an extension of my arm.

Pure Strike 18x20 sucked.
AI98 is great on a fresh restring, then goes south, but nothing is really crisp or heavy even at its best.
Tec315ltd 18x20 is getting close, but something is missing.
If this vcore sv95 is a failure, I might try a vcore tourG 310 and lead it up.

I just dunno....
Yeah I'd second the Angell. Probably the 97. If the Tec is close than the Angell may nail it for you.

To say you don't like the "cult like hype"? Whats that have to do with you going on the court and winning matches? Absolutely nothing.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Well I've logged 10 hours with the SV95 and my usual Vcore 98s. I think I play a bit better with the 98s still. It's just grooved to me. Not to say that the SV95 is bad, because it is not. It is one of the best 95 frames out there, and is more comfortable than the 98. That being said, I believe the Yonex 98 line is one of the best lines going, at least for me. If I didn't have 3 Vcores, I'd probably have grabbed an SV98, but I can wait on those.

I am quite confident that many folks who love 95s will really love the ball shape of the SV. It reminds me a lot of the 95D in that regard. I'll be putting mine up for grabs so someone else can get one at a discount before I put any real wear on it.
 

TennisHound

Legend
Sorry for derailing the thread but we only know the mold is the same. It can be a layup vastly different from retail. Look at Hewitt, it turned out at the end of his career he played with a racquet which was from a mold combining aspects of different retail models and even more so he supposedly tested numerous layups. What it shows you is that Yonex can go to great lengths for their players.

Even more so, assuming his racquet is based of the retail model, it is modded and thus plays differently than "stock". There are racquets which many "feel" that play much better once leaded up.

To continue... Keep in mind the racquet wasn't popular and didn't sell like crazy, it didn't get the "bestseller" tag on TW. It was the Tour G which got that. Why? Probably for many reasons but Wawrinka winning his first GS had to impact sales. But that's just it. A player wins with a paintjob and shazaaam! That particular imitated model sells. But that's sales driven by people who don't know. Sadly, our TT community isn't much better. Every model has its fans but most come & go without much talk after it ages unless a pro starts using that particular mold. Ohhh geez. When that happens out of nowhere people start popping up saying how could such a great racquet be discontinued. Yeah, so great it didn't sell. Aerostorm anyone? Vcore 95D? Good or bad, these racquets weren't exactly king and queen of the prom if you know what I mean.

And finally, the fact that a pro uses a mold/racquet/dampener doesn't make it magic and won't improve your game unless its specs actually correspond to your level of play, technique, style etc. It gets crazy enough that old Luxilon dampeners get sold for 20USDs or more. Now I'm not a person who tells other people how to spend their money but it is just a piece of purple rubber.

Sorry for the rant but the fact that a pro uses a certain mold can't be justification for a statement that its retail counterpart has to play good.
No, its no justification for sure, but the SV is the only current Yonex with six strings in the throat like Wawrinkas. So there is more hope that the SV will respond better to modifications, based on some similarity to Wawrinkas 95D (regardless of how small the similarity is), rather than a racquet that has no visual similarities like a Tour or Duel G.
 
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AllCourtHeathen

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This racquet ain't for me. Too stiff, not enough feel.
You can pound serves with it. It is quick to whip around.
If you swing for spin it rewards you, though the ball comes off the frame at a kinda low trajectory hitting flat.
I put lead at 3 and 9, and at the handle, with an overgrip it was about 348gms

Back to the tec315 until I can try an Angell.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
This racquet ain't for me. Too stiff, not enough feel.
You can pound serves with it. It is quick to whip around.
If you swing for spin it rewards you, though the ball comes off the frame at a kinda low trajectory hitting flat.
I put lead at 3 and 9, and at the handle, with an overgrip it was about 348gms

Back to the tec315 until I can try an Angell.
@AllCourtHeathen, do you have mainly a SH or DH topspin Backhand?
 

TennisHound

Legend
Well I've logged 10 hours with the SV95 and my usual Vcore 98s. I think I play a bit better with the 98s still. It's just grooved to me. Not to say that the SV95 is bad, because it is not. It is one of the best 95 frames out there, and is more comfortable than the 98. That being said, I believe the Yonex 98 line is one of the best lines going, at least for me. If I didn't have 3 Vcores, I'd probably have grabbed an SV98, but I can wait on those.

I am quite confident that many folks who love 95s will really love the ball shape of the SV. It reminds me a lot of the 95D in that regard. I'll be putting mine up for grabs so someone else can get one at a discount before I put any real wear on it.
I'm guessing you're using the Si98? I would assume it responds better than the SV to added weight? Thanks
 
Thank you to PP.
At first I taught you were an advertiser for yonex:p but u are spot on in your posts about the sv95. I am accustomed to the yonex head shape because I have used the AI98 and Dr 98 before. It has the plow of a smaller head with decent spin potential of bigger headsize,guess I like the 95inch aspect of the racquet. I hit some very heavy topspin shots today like never before :eek:.
The control isn't huge like Andy said in the TW review cause it's oddly powerful on some shots.
The 80 score is probably because it was used in stock form.It needs some lead on the head like troy said.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Thank you to PP.
At first I taught you were an advertiser for yonex:p but u are spot on in your posts about the sv95. I am accustomed to the yonex head shape because I have used the AI98 and Dr 98 before. It has the plow of a smaller head with decent spin potential of bigger headsize,guess I like the 95inch aspect of the racquet. I hit some very heavy topspin shots today like never before :eek:.
The control isn't huge like Andy said in the TW review cause it's oddly powerful on some shots.
The 80 score is probably because it was used in stock form.It needs some lead on the head like troy said.
I really love Yonex frames so I give them all a fair shake. I do think the Sv95 will blow away some folks who love 95 frames but want something a little easier to use. I just have been realizing more and more that I play better with the 97/98 size. As small a difference as it would seem, it does suit my game a little more.

I will say that the SV95 is worth a drive if you loved the 95D. It really does some nasty things to the ball.
 
Hey Guys I am new to the forum

And I have one question, I want to buy a Yonex raquete i current play with an Babolat Pure Aero and I want a Yonex that have the same play style as my Pure Aero my options are:
Yonex VCORE SV 98/100
Yonex Ezone DR100

What of this raquets would have more spin and power like my Pure Aero ?


Tanks
My best regards
Pedro
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Hey Guys I am new to the forum

And I have one question, I want to buy a Yonex raquete i current play with an Babolat Pure Aero and I want a Yonex that have the same play style as my Pure Aero my options are:
Yonex VCORE SV 98/100
Yonex Ezone DR100

What of this raquets would have more spin and power like my Pure Aero ?


Tanks
My best regards
Pedro
Spin and Power, you'd probably get from both the SV100 and the DR100. And while I haven't tried the SV100 yet, based on it's frame shape, it wouldn't match up with the feel of the Pure Aero. I've demoed the Tour and regular version of the Pure Aero, and I use the DR100. The DR100 is the racquet you should be comparing the Pure Aero to. It has the club-like feel and maneuverability with the same spin and power. My current DR100 is strung w/ Yonex PolyTour Spin 125 at 48 lbs. It's a trampoline.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
My opinion remains that the 98 line of YY frames (XI,SI (probably not a great offering) and SV) are criminally underrated racquets. If I was not looking for something soft that played a similar style as these, I'd just be riding out the 3 XIs that I have and not demoing anything.
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
I really love Yonex frames so I give them all a fair shake. I do think the Sv95 will blow away some folks who love 95 frames but want something a little easier to use. I just have been realizing more and more that I play better with the 97/98 size. As small a difference as it would seem, it does suit my game a little more.

I will say that the SV95 is worth a drive if you loved the 95D. It really does some nasty things to the ball.
I will likely give almost anything Yonex a fair shake as well. I am also a fan of 97-98 sticks. It seems to be a nice compromise between forgiveness and directional control.

95D lovers will feel the heritage of that stick in this frame. It will need a little lead to unleash it's full potential but I have yet to find a racquet that couldn't do with a little fine tuning anyway. It's part of the fun of being a racquet connoisseur!
 
My opinion remains that the 98 line of YY frames (XI,SI (probably not a great offering) and SV) are criminally underrated racquets. If I was not looking for something soft that played a similar style as these, I'd just be riding out the 3 XIs that I have and not demoing anything.
Isn't the XI98 like 70 RA though?
 
Sorry to ask again let's take the aero out.

Who have tried both the DR100 and the SV100 what's the main difference between these 2 and the pros and cons of each frame ?

The review is a little bit confusing because was not the same players nor the same string or string tension in the review os these two Yonex model so it's not that accurate.

That's why I am asking a lot os question.

Sorry about all the questions

And tank you guys very much for all the help appreciated !
 
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It is 69, but a very comfortable frame if you don't mind stiffness. It gives off no bad vibrations on mishits, or things of that nature.
Interesting. I held one XI98 but haven't hit with it yet. Felt light as a feather though. I'll try to hit with it stock and weight it up if i like it.
 
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