Oic, then I don't know nor do I care about a 26.5 inch 270g frame.
Yonex VCORE SV
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parasailing
Legend
I had a chance to demo a SV 95. It is a very maneuverable racquet and offers good spin. Power was good on this racquet and definitely is softer than the 95D which was much stiffer. It is not a plush racquet but it's not stiff racquet as well. The sweetspot is pretty good for a 95 sq. in. racquet. If you looking for a softer 95D, this is worth a demo.
It is definitely stiffer than the Vcore Duel G, AI 98, or DR 98 series. This racquet is a nice update to the 95D.
It is definitely stiffer than the Vcore Duel G, AI 98, or DR 98 series. This racquet is a nice update to the 95D.
Hitcher78
Rookie
If this thing hits like a maneuverable 95D, then I'm going to be very happy. Have one on delivery now!
parasailing
Legend
It does have similar maneuverability. Let us know what you think. It definitely is less stiff and probably a little less power but that isn't a bad thing as the 95D was quite stiff.
parasailing
Legend
The demo came with Luxilon Alu Feel 17g. This racquet got quite a bit of power and you can really generate a lot of racquet head speed. I didn't feel that this offered more or less control than your typical 16x19 string pattern. If you hit with a good deal of top spin, balls will land in. But I like 18x20 racquets because they tend to give me more control.
I love how much whip you can get with this racquet and it definitely feels like a softer version of the 95D.
fundrazer
Legend
Yeah those serves were disgusting. Thanks for introducing me to those guys btw. I always look for their reviews now when they Yonex sticks come out. Don't understand Japanese, but they're very solid players and it's fun to watch the videos.Since I watched the review from Lafino, Always fantasize slice serves from SV95...
kimguroo
Legend
I watched most of his Yonex reviews and SV95 had the best slice serves from him. Before that Vcore XI98 was the best for his slice serves but SV95 is just insane. Looks like SV98 has less slice serves. I only catch a few words from reviews but I like to watch his hitting especially swing speed, trajectory of balls, spin and depth etc.
Currently I am playing with Yonex Regna and T-fight 315 ltd. my serves are getting better than a few months ago so I want to add more sharp angle slice serves since I won't have fast serves in my lifetime. I think various type of serves will benefit my serve games if I don't have fast serves. Definitely technique will be the key and I am practicing slice serves and have decent results with Regna so far (but not with modded T-fight-probably it's a little heavy to generate faster swing speed T_T). A few days ago, I played double games and I could hit two sharpe angle slice serves to douce side guy (aced both times) then I saw he moved slightly and served to "T" with another ace. He was just freezed and watching. I started thinking slice serves from lafino's review more and more now and I am very tempted to get SV95 hahaha.
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AllCourtHeathen
Guest
Jeeeezuz.Since I watched the review from Lafino, Always fantasize slice serves from SV95...
I wish there were some english translations of their reviews, I feel like I am missing out.
I got my sv95 back, I now have volkl vtorque mains and gosen multimaster mains, at high 40's. And it is awesome. The gosen my coach put in is flat in shape, and allows the poly to snap back, it works really well. 2 days until my 2nd sv95 arrives. The only racquet I want to try a little more now is the tour f 93, as I hit well with it too. I actually feel cured of racquetaholism.
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smalahove
Hall of Fame
I've been playing with my restrung SV98 for a few sessions now, and I have to say the change of strings has taken away the stick's mojo ...
Right now, it's strung with Ultra Cable @52 whereas before it was Focus Hex 1.1 @54.
I thought I'd go down a couple of pounds given the "effective" gauge of the UC, but that didn't turn out as I thought it would.
With every racket I've tried the UC so far (old PST, PAT, and now SV98), the UC is too mushy and too powerful compared to other polys. I don't think 52 lbs is low tension, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I have another set still, so I might try 56-58 next time.
I see from:
http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/articles/2016/03/12_guide_to_strings_string_sel.html
... that the MSV FH 1.1 has a 175 stiffness rating, which is pretty soft.
On TWU the UC also comes out with a 175 rating:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/WCUC17/WCUC17review.html
However, since the tennisindustrymag site doesn't have UC numbers, I've looked at other TWU data on MSV string, and it seems their measurement procedure results in much lower ratings, hence why I suspect the MSV FH is a much stiffer string than the UC, which feels borderline V-star to me.
To make a long story short:
I can relate to the TW tester's comments reg. lack of feel with the UC string. However, with a stiffer string, this disconnected feel turns into the opposite. Btw. I had no unpleasant arm or elbow experience with either strings.
Right now, it's strung with Ultra Cable @52 whereas before it was Focus Hex 1.1 @54.
I thought I'd go down a couple of pounds given the "effective" gauge of the UC, but that didn't turn out as I thought it would.
With every racket I've tried the UC so far (old PST, PAT, and now SV98), the UC is too mushy and too powerful compared to other polys. I don't think 52 lbs is low tension, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I have another set still, so I might try 56-58 next time.
I see from:
http://www.tennisindustrymag.com/articles/2016/03/12_guide_to_strings_string_sel.html
... that the MSV FH 1.1 has a 175 stiffness rating, which is pretty soft.
On TWU the UC also comes out with a 175 rating:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/WCUC17/WCUC17review.html
However, since the tennisindustrymag site doesn't have UC numbers, I've looked at other TWU data on MSV string, and it seems their measurement procedure results in much lower ratings, hence why I suspect the MSV FH is a much stiffer string than the UC, which feels borderline V-star to me.
To make a long story short:
I can relate to the TW tester's comments reg. lack of feel with the UC string. However, with a stiffer string, this disconnected feel turns into the opposite. Btw. I had no unpleasant arm or elbow experience with either strings.
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
This is in line with my thoughts. SV seems to be a bit tension/string sensitive. Because it is powerful, right tension is the key for good control and you need a few pounds higher than your normal tension. But once you find the perfect balance, it should be a great racquet.
Not as stiff.
No, plays nothing like it, SV95 swings lighter and much faster, six one 95 is more solid feeling, but not as maneuverable. Both are very stable.
Power Player
Talk Tennis Guru
Agree. the SV95 is more like a Prestige to me if I had to compare it. Has a bigger sweetspot, and is a little more whippy. Serves big like a Prestige though.
If you like the Graphene Prestige MP, the SV95 is a great demo.
(o)COBRA(o)
Rookie
How does Yonex SV 95 compare to Prince textreme tour 95? I've tried the Prince and really enjoyed it.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Tried the Prince as well and I'm a prince fan. For me the SV is faster through the air. The Prince has more plow and feels softer. The yonex is crisp in a good way.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
I'll also add that the SV95 sweet spot feels like a 98-100in head. Pretty crazy.
Phantasm
Semi-Pro
You're not missing out on TOO much of the stuff they actually say. They rave a lot on the spin potential for the most part and how Coach Takaishi's (gray haired one) had ridiculous angles on his slice serves that landed very shortly in the service box then bounced in the ridiculous angle
Half of the reviews Lafino does is insightful with how the racket hits and feels but parts of the review feel forced trying to talk about the "technology" or selling point of the racket and sometimes comes off as trying too hard and they repeat a lot of the things they say. I mean obviously cause it is a racket review on the newest thing with a Rep from the racket company there, they want to try to accentuate the selling features but it does seem a little forced at times. They're fun to watch as they all hit quite well as it seems they have a lot of fun with the reviews and the conversations are lighthearted and easy to follow. They also try to review all the rackets in the series they review too and not just the players frames.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
If a player is coming to an SV95 from a 98 or 100 racquet a few pounds LOWER is a good starting point.
Hitcher78
Rookie
I finally got one. I've put a leather grip on it, and added a little weight at 3 & 9. I just haven't been able to try it out yet. It's too cold for any of my friends to go hit with me right now.
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Stock with one overgrip and TF Black Code 17g strung at 52lbs. Total static weight is about 335g and 9 Pts HL.
Racquet delivers great rewards to players with great footwork and stroke technique. Control is exceptional especially on serves. As usual, spin and depth potential is directly linked to stroke technique. We found Black Code in this racquet to be quite low powered. Players that can't generate their own power are going to be disappointed. You need to be able to generate high RHS to get the best out of this one.
Otherwise, in the right hands this racquet does all things well. Very manoueverable but the smaller head size, even though it is isometric, is quite unforgiving compared to most other current racquets. Racquet is very comfortable with Black Code. Off centre hits and shanks are felt but not harsh.
I love to customise racquets but I can't see that this one needs very much for us. We will probably drop the tension a few pounds on the next re-string and see what impact it has on power potential and control. Precision hitters might consider adding weight at 12 and counter at the handle.
Hard working players will find this racquet supreme. Lazy players should probably look elsewhere.
langdon0555
Semi-Pro
Interesting...
Seems most are saying the sweet spot feels pretty big, you're saying it feels small.
Random question, just curious...you say 'we' a lot when responding to post. Who are the 'we' you're talking about ?lol
Seems most are saying the sweet spot feels pretty big, you're saying it feels small.
Random question, just curious...you say 'we' a lot when responding to post. Who are the 'we' you're talking about ?lol
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Regarding the sweet spot, I mean to say that I think it is small compared to many other 97, 98 and 100 racquets we've played with. Sweet spot certainly doesn't feel small compared to other "small head" sticks we've tried. But any player with a long fast swing that can consistently hit the ball with the "middle" of the stringbed is going to be very satisfied with the result.
I imagine dropping the tension esp. on the cross strings will open up the racquet a bit but we will have to see what effect that has on the depth and directional control potential. At the current tension the thing offers scalpel like performance.
When I refer to "We" in some of my posts I'm talking about myself and a couple of other players that I regularly hit with. We tend to test the same racquets together because we think it is a great way to compare them in an objective manner. Personally I find it more worthwhile to hit say Racquet X against Racquet X to get the best impression of what the thing is capable of.
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Joonas
Semi-Pro
Lot of talk about SV95. I will share some thoughts of SV98.
My background is Prestige MP and lately over 1,5 years Graphene PMP. I have been trying ton of frames to replace Prestige. Prestige is great but I feel I need to win also on those not-so-great-days. My latest stick has been 1st gen Pure Strike 16/19, first with added weight and lately stock form. I like its feel, access to spin, control and power. It serves ok but not super great (Compare to Prestige MP anyone?!). What I don't like in PS is the slight flimsiness outside of sweetspot.
I have had an SV98 for few weeks now. Why did I choose this frame? Basically three things: 1. I have always liked Yonexes but never settled with one; 2. I sort of relate to TW Andys play style and he praised this frame; 3. Reviewers praised it on the spin.
I am still adapting to character of this frame. Normally I wouldn't try to adopt this long. But there is a reason for this. Number one is that I serve so big and effortless with this! Reminds me of Xi98 in this regard. It is just easy and explosive. Second reason is that my two hand backhand is effortless, powerful and spinny with SV98. I can find great control and angles when needed. Just great! Same goes for slices by the way
So all good but what about the forehand. That's my gripe. I have had problems with SV98 constantly to get the feeling of racket head pulling through the swing. And I end up correcting it and pushing or wristing on the other end. On my fore hand it feels bit schizophrenic- on the other hand it moves very fast but there is still this feeling that the mass is located ti the throat are instead of the tip
I tried add some weight at 12, also I tried at 3&9, I tried to counter in the upper handle area but honestly none of the setups didn't work for me. And mind you I am looking to move to 305g static and roughly 320 sw area from +320g static and 335sw. And there are reasons for this.
I am however confident that I will eventually dial in with my forehand. The other positives drive me to that.
The feel of SV98 was dividing opinions. I find the feel pretty good. It is stiffer or crisper feeling frame but definitely not uncomfortable. It has actually nice ball pocketing, it feels direct and logical. Sweetspot is big. Perhaps it eats bit of control but as return it adds for margin. Not bad trade. I tried few strings but feel good with my go to Big Hitter Silver 1.25 strung at 23kg. I would imagine that Alu Power should be even better - normally where Big Hitter feels good Alu adds one more click.
Other aspects I would add, the power is good, control is good, spin is actually very good, it moves fast but decevingly so. I have been framing some balls especially with the tip of the racket. This happens when you are early on your swing mostly.
My background is Prestige MP and lately over 1,5 years Graphene PMP. I have been trying ton of frames to replace Prestige. Prestige is great but I feel I need to win also on those not-so-great-days. My latest stick has been 1st gen Pure Strike 16/19, first with added weight and lately stock form. I like its feel, access to spin, control and power. It serves ok but not super great (Compare to Prestige MP anyone?!). What I don't like in PS is the slight flimsiness outside of sweetspot.
I have had an SV98 for few weeks now. Why did I choose this frame? Basically three things: 1. I have always liked Yonexes but never settled with one; 2. I sort of relate to TW Andys play style and he praised this frame; 3. Reviewers praised it on the spin.
I am still adapting to character of this frame. Normally I wouldn't try to adopt this long. But there is a reason for this. Number one is that I serve so big and effortless with this! Reminds me of Xi98 in this regard. It is just easy and explosive. Second reason is that my two hand backhand is effortless, powerful and spinny with SV98. I can find great control and angles when needed. Just great! Same goes for slices by the way
So all good but what about the forehand. That's my gripe. I have had problems with SV98 constantly to get the feeling of racket head pulling through the swing. And I end up correcting it and pushing or wristing on the other end. On my fore hand it feels bit schizophrenic- on the other hand it moves very fast but there is still this feeling that the mass is located ti the throat are instead of the tip
I tried add some weight at 12, also I tried at 3&9, I tried to counter in the upper handle area but honestly none of the setups didn't work for me. And mind you I am looking to move to 305g static and roughly 320 sw area from +320g static and 335sw. And there are reasons for this.
I am however confident that I will eventually dial in with my forehand. The other positives drive me to that.
The feel of SV98 was dividing opinions. I find the feel pretty good. It is stiffer or crisper feeling frame but definitely not uncomfortable. It has actually nice ball pocketing, it feels direct and logical. Sweetspot is big. Perhaps it eats bit of control but as return it adds for margin. Not bad trade. I tried few strings but feel good with my go to Big Hitter Silver 1.25 strung at 23kg. I would imagine that Alu Power should be even better - normally where Big Hitter feels good Alu adds one more click.
Other aspects I would add, the power is good, control is good, spin is actually very good, it moves fast but decevingly so. I have been framing some balls especially with the tip of the racket. This happens when you are early on your swing mostly.
Hit the sv95 back to back with a 95d with a friend. I don't consider the sv to be an updated 95d as they feel and swing totally different. I'd be hard pressed to find any heritage between them.
That said, the sv95 is still a great racquet, especially with some weight. My final playing specs are 350g 10pts HL. SW is somewhere in high 320s.
Leather grip, 1g at 2/12/10. Yonex damper. Supergrap. YPTF and monogut. @53lbs.
That said, the sv95 is still a great racquet, especially with some weight. My final playing specs are 350g 10pts HL. SW is somewhere in high 320s.
Leather grip, 1g at 2/12/10. Yonex damper. Supergrap. YPTF and monogut. @53lbs.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I liked the SV 95. I only hit with it for one day. It was a very nicely muted racquet with good ball pocketing from the string bed. My demo was strung with a multi. I also found it very comfortable on miss hits and when hit outside of the sweet spot. Not harsh or jarring.
MisterP
Hall of Fame
SV98 was dreadfully uncomfortable. Never had wrist pain in my life until hitting with that stick. And I play with a Pure Aero with full poly, so I'm no stranger to high RA, stiff feeling racquets.
That said, the power and spin were nice and the control was still comparable to my AI98.
That said, the power and spin were nice and the control was still comparable to my AI98.
Tour_G
Semi-Pro
How about spin and control?
I'm hitting with a Ti Radical MP looking for a frame that could offer a bit more spin and forgiveness with the same level of control if that is possible.
Do you think the SV 95 will suit my game?
It is much easier to generate spin compared to the Ti Radical because of the more open pattern.
Tim Bereika
Rookie
Agreed. I was playing with a PS 16x19 (old version) then switched to the SV98 and developed bicep/elbow pain instantly. It's too bad because I love the racquet. I just picked up a used DR98 and am impressed...might switch to it instead.
Thanks @vsbabolat. I also read that you hit with the SV 100 alongside the SV 95. Did you feel that the SV 100 is a clone of the Babolat Pure Drive or Pure Aero?
Edberg23
Rookie
Thanks!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I thought the SV 100 was more arm friendly than the Babolat frames. It's in that same frame category. I thought the SV 100 was a hair more powerful than the old 100D
I went with the SV95…. since it was less stiff and more HL!! I strung it low with Xone Biphase multi at 42 lbs. Seems plenty good for me. I've got lots of arm issues but this set up was just as good as my Head Graphene XT Prestige Pro I've been using as far as I can tell. Only hit it for a little over a set so far though. Muted for sure but not too "bad"- depending on what you like.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
I think because of the head shape the 95 feels bigger so don't be scared by the small head size.
Edberg23
Rookie
Thanks. Yeah 95 isn't small for me, so no problems there. Its just that in New Zealand no one is stocking the 95. So I would have to order it without a demo!
A.
I tried the VCore SV 98 Long (yes there will be a half-inch long version) strung with Poly Tour Fire 1.25 at 56 pounds and I had no arm pain. I will advise you that the racquet is stiff like the VCore Tour 97 at 65 RA stiffness and not the 67 listed on TW, but it is softer than the VCore Si 98.
JOSHL
Hall of Fame
Extended length???!!!! Great just when I thought my holicism was over.
Demo. What is that?
Hitcher78
Rookie
So I FINALLY took my SV 95 out for a hit. (I've been dealing with a back injury). I put on a leather grip, and added lead a total of four. 4 inch strips at 3 & 9. I have to say I was impressed. I normally play the 95D, with the same lead and leather grip, and i am torn on which I like better. The 95D still has the edge on controllable, yet crushing power. But the SV 95 still supplies lots of power and pop while giving another dimension of maneuverability and angles. I'm going to have to play in some heavy hitting hitting match situations before I decide, but this thing has a shot to overtake my 95D.
smalahove
Hall of Fame
No arm pain whatsoever.
Very comfortable and solid feeling. Been using it with MSV Focus Hex 1.1 and Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable (1.23) @52-52 lbs. Mine has an RA of 68, which is a tad stiffer than TW averages (67). I don't think Pure Aero is a good ref when it comes to stiffness/harshness, as my PAT, strung with UC is as plush as I've ever felt. Huge sweet zone. Of course, for both the SV98 and PAT, if you're into stiff, thick Lux or RPM at high tension, things will start to get uncomfortable.
For ref. rackets I've experienced as harsh: Head GSP Ltd and Extreme Pro, both strung at mid-to-high 50s with thick, stiff polys, as well a Wilson Pro Open strung at around 60 lbs with syntgut (!).
Karma Tennis
Hall of Fame
Can you tells us what the UNSTRUNG static weight and racquet balance of your customised frame is?
Hitcher78
Rookie
Sorry, I didn't weigh and measure it, nor do I have the equipment to do so. It has a 4 1/4 handle with a thin babolat leather grip, a yonex supergrap overgrip, and a yonex vibration dampener on it. And like I said before, it has four, 4 inch stips of 1/4" lead tape at 3 & 9. Sorry I can't be more specific.