Yonex Vcore Tour 89 and 97 specs
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MesQueUnClub
Rookie
While he is a very good player, Troy should not be in the play test for mid racquets. They are really not for him or his style of game. Would be better to get Granville's opinions rather than Troy's for mids.
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
Its good to see all kinds play and how they react to a certain stick, its also good to see an open player too, some of us play that game. Glanville is good but he plays nothing like me, chris is also good but I'm happy to see someone like andy put a quality racket thro its paces.
MesQueUnClub
Rookie
I liked everyone else's input except for Troy's. What's the point of reviewing an 89 sq inch racquet to comment that it is too small for him and that it's not good for extreme grips. Duh...
I prefer Granville on mids as his game is made for mids and he seems to have grown up playing mids.
Would you rather have Fed's opinion of 89T or Nadal's? That's all I am saying. Again it's just my opinion and everyone can have their own
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
I liked everyone else's input except for Troy's. What's the point of reviewing an 89 sq inch racquet to comment that it is too small for him and that it's not good for extreme grips. Duh...
I prefer Granville on mids as his game is made for mids and he seems to have grown up playing mids.
Would you rather have Fed's opinion of 89T or Nadal's? That's all I am saying. Again it's just my opinion and everyone can have their own
Troy said the same thing about the bb melbourne and that's 98"...., the racket has a large sweetspot as does the 89t. With all of them including Gran I take their comments lightly, its good that tw have a variety of abilities (although they are all down as 5.0) and its good to see a couple of players that play tourneys so that us public can take a little from everyone.
I have a full western 1hbh and play with a mid. I've played with the denser pattern 6.1 that troy uses, its certainly not more forgiving imo, very similar, its all about getting your stringbed tension right, so throw away comments like small sweetspot are not needed, with any racket its about hitting the middle, if you are a few inches out you're not gonna be doing well with a oversize.
Dgdavid
Professional
Granville and Chris are legit 5.0+ surely? I love watching Granville, so relaxed when he plays and makes everything look easy.
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
Yeah I agree dave, gran looks like our club coach who played at a high level when he was younger but he is still so relaxed in play, volleys in slow motion, he's slow now but very difficult to beat.
I dun agree with the part of throwing comments like small sweetspot. I personally think that despite having a bigger sweetspot for a mid, the 89T sweetspot is still smaller compared with other midplus rackets. All of us know that it is about hitting in the middle, but who really can do that all the time unless you are playing against people who do not put you under any pressure at all, so I thought that piece of information is pretty important in fact. Even a fantastic player like Andy commented that the 89t is not very forgiving when he didn't hit the ball in the middle, and that is coming from a very good player who is currently using a 93mid.
When you are playing in a match which you are hitting at least a few hundred balls, I'm sure there will be quite a handful of shots which will land one to two inches out of the sweetspot, and that handful of balls could have been good shots if your sweetspot is one to two inches wider. That handful of balls could also make a difference to the match results especially if the match is close.
So what's stopping people from using 105 sq in rackets to maximize their wins?
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
Chris said that it had a large sweetspot for a mid, a good comment, my prestige mid has a small sweetspot, this thing does not, its as wide a my becker legend 98", I've posted pics of this racket with an APD overlayed, its a very interesting pic, esp the string pattern.....I have it strung mid 40's and the sweetspot is as good as any mid plus I've played with......
The testers play with a different racket each week, of course one would expect them to make such a comment it its at the end of the day an 89. But modified to your usual spec and given enough time to find the right set up and I think they'd have a slightly different point of view.
Of course, you ought to know that other factors come into play when choosing a racket. What I am trying to say is while 89T is an outstanding racket, we should not brush aside its main weakness which is a demanding sweet spot like it is not there.
Hi Meaghan, I believe the size of the sweet spot is not just based on the physical size of the rackets. There are many factors affecting the size of the sweet spot. Comparing the physical size of the rackets is a bit deluding I feel. A better way is to use the TW university tool to do comparison. Even that may not reflect how users feel. I think this is the reason why we have a forum where we can gather information generally on how users feel after using the rackets. As all of us are at different levels of skills and using different set-ups, that is why I feel every voice counts into giving a general sense of how the racket may play.
How about comparing with BC20's sweetspot?
That's very true. If you've followed my posts in this thread, I always describe the sweet spot in a relative manner.
Wanted to add that I have 9 hours on the string set up in my sig and it's looking very good. I put some preemptive string savers just to ease my mind in some areas over the time of use. Hopefully I'll get the maximum value out of this string bed.
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
I think we are missing the point a bit, yes this racket is demanding, yes its headsize is smaller than most on offer, but it definately plays larger than it is, as we know yonex have shortened the length not the width, it plays like a 95, added to that the Isometric shape which most of us believe gives a bigger sweetspot. No one is saying it plays like a 98-100" but it deffo has the benefits of a mid with the forgiveness of a 95........
Greg G
Professional
I agree 100%! I went from 105 to 89 without any major transition issues. I have no issues with the size of the sweet spot- feels the same to me! But the control and maneuverability is amazing. If I lose a point or 2 in a set because of the head size, I would contend that I probably would have lost it anyway. And I definitely have gained more points with the added control.
Yes, that's what I am trying to say, while it may play larger than its actual size suggests, it is still a demanding racket as most mid rackets are. While I understand that some of the users here have no problem converting from a larger headsize racket (which may have a small sweetspot to begin with) to the 89T, it definitely does not mean that 89T is as forgiving as larger headsize rackets in general.
Personally, I have tried dropping the tension to low 40s for 89T. While it may increase the power for the non-sweetspots, giving the impression that the sweetspot is larger. It simply turned the actual sweetspot to a rocket launcher. The loss of control eventually made me feel less confident going for the big shots. Of course, if you are able to find the right balance, I guess you probably can still get the racket to work out for you. At the end of the day, it is still an excellent racket.
Personally, I have tried dropping the tension to low 40s for 89T. While it may increase the power for the non-sweetspots, giving the impression that the sweetspot is larger. It simply turned the actual sweetspot to a rocket launcher. The loss of control eventually made me feel less confident going for the big shots. Of course, if you are able to find the right balance, I guess you probably can still get the racket to work out for you. At the end of the day, it is still an excellent racket.
Magic of tennis
Semi-Pro
Any racquet can be rocket launcher if timing is not right or top spin was not fully implemented. It will be more so if tension is loose.
My ball sails long like from rocket launcher whenever wind wiper technique was not fully implemented or technique was not correct.
My ball sails long like from rocket launcher whenever wind wiper technique was not fully implemented or technique was not correct.
Meaghan
Hall of Fame
Yes, finding that "marriage" between power and control is crucial. I have tried a number of set ups which have worked well around 50lbs but had the same problem as you did when I dropped tension. When I tried Yonex poly tour spin I think I strung it at 52lbs and it was a bit of a struggle at first, control was great just no oomph. As soon as it settled and lost some tension, the dwell time, comfort and feel improved as well as power from a more trampoline like stringbed. I have since decided to go low and it worked a treat. Its low powered so with the control and bite of a fresh stringbed counteracts the dwell and rocket launcher affect of low tensions.....The downside I expect is that it wont last too long before becoming unmanageable but its a relatively cheap string.
Having fun using it. Finding it a real challenge to use against higher level hitters but I'm persevering and staying with it. Love it with the gut/poly hybrid in my sig. I'm going to move up to the 1.23 sppp to give me a little less power or maybe give scorpion a try as a cross.
mykoh
Rookie
lots of rave reviews on the gut/scorpion setup. really tempted to go for that as well. feel should be softer than with your SPPP.
i have to admit i don't find myself going back to the 89t when it comes to matches. it gets pretty demanding to use especially when your heart's pounding and the legs aren't responding. i still absolutely crave the feel i get with it though. i can't seem to get that with my 95d.
i have to admit i don't find myself going back to the 89t when it comes to matches. it gets pretty demanding to use especially when your heart's pounding and the legs aren't responding.
i still absolutely crave the feel i get with it though. i can't seem to get that with my 95d. 
syke
Professional
you ought to do yourself a favour and try the Yonex PolyTour Spin.
lots of rave reviews on the gut/scorpion setup. really tempted to go for that as well. feel should be softer than with your SPPP.
i have to admit i don't find myself going back to the 89t when it comes to matches. it gets pretty demanding to use especially when your heart's pounding and the legs aren't responding.
In the USRSA database scorpion is listed as having a slightly higher stiffness index compared to sppp. I was under the impression that it will provide a slightly crisper feeling as a result.
Current plan may be to string up two different set ups with both the scorpion and sppp in comparable gauges and tension to get an idea of which one I'd like better. I did hold on to my other 89t so there's no reason not to give this a try.
Vcore89
Talk Tennis Guru
I am of course using the Vcore Tour 89. Been using RDX500 mid and RDS001 with Tecnifibre bi-phase 17 and Luxilon Alu Power 16L before...all at 60 lbs.
Vcore89
Talk Tennis Guru
My tension for TurboTwist is 60 lbs as well. Never really deviated away from 60 lbs once I got used to it. I've experimented with string tensions from 50 lbs to a max of 68 lbs (for me, 68 lbs is too much -- I couldn't handle it naturally!).
Yes, it would seem a commitment to Vcore89 (wonder how long they will produce this racquet?). But I think I am good for now with Vcore 89; literally.
Yes, it would seem a commitment to Vcore89 (wonder how long they will produce this racquet?). But I think I am good for now with Vcore 89; literally.
your username is vcore89? now that's commitment. what if you decide to switch? haha
and my bad re the SPPP, i was reading the comparisons with gut/scorpion and gut/SS.
I've kept track of my DT(dynamic tension) with an ERT 300.
Reference was 37dt, followed by an 8 hour reading of 34dt, and the most recent reading of 33dt at 16 hours. I'm not sure of what the dt translates to in lbs/kgs. I think 33dt is around 48lbs.
In terms of tension maintenance the set-up has held well. The hybrid is powerful but controllable. I've noticed I can work easier with this set-up compared to my previous full set of poly and the full set up yonex 850 pro I tested on the demo. There is definitely an adjustment period because I first thought it was too powerful. Given a few hitting hours and it's been a pleasant so far.
brian14190
Rookie
How does the Vcore 89 compare to the RDS001 Mid? It seems like they would play similar.
Crosses at the 6H (6th main string on the head from the centre), which is next to the tie-off hole for the mains. Last crosses can be tied off on the third cross or second main on the throat.
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great question.....I've found the patterns for everything but this racquet....Mine came strung as a hybrid and the mains were started at the head as both tie offs are at the head...crosses were started at the throat ......racquet works fine but want to be sure this method wont damage frame
rader023
Rookie
I would assume the RDis100 instructions linked or the 95D instructions on the catalogue would work (same instructions and string pattern).
http://www.yonexusa.com/displaycat.cfm?catid=7
cmendez79
Semi-Pro
Well when I ordered my first one, I order it a hybrid and it came like you say, the mains were tie off at the top, but the crosses started from top to botton.
I do not know if this is correct also?
That is the correct way. Mains on the VCore Tour 89 and 97 always tie off on the head.
Manila
10Philippines
Greg G... Pinoy ka?
I also got an 89t saan ka nagpapastring ng yonex mo?
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Any decent string tech always starts the crosses on a two-piece pattern at the crown, not the throat. Yonex has always stipulated this technique on all their frames. The USRSA certification test would be flunked if you started at the throat. I'm not sure why you suspect the original string job was started at the throat but, if it was, that's a huge mistake and shouldn't be done that way again.
As to the mains, the Vcore Tour pattern will end at the top because there must be eight stringholes in the throat, thereby requiring the mains to start at the crown...odd number strings 1,3,5&7 going down and even number strings 2,4,6&8 going up. This is a change-up from most Yonex 16main frames...usually they have six holes in the throat, start at the throat and tie off at the bottom.
Midguytenis
New User
What wonderful rackets these are.
I am actually with both deciding before the new season, 97Tour is an awesome racket so is the 89Tour, only problem is to play on clay with the 89, it's a tough job.
I am actually with both deciding before the new season, 97Tour is an awesome racket so is the 89Tour, only problem is to play on clay with the 89, it's a tough job.
rlau
Hall of Fame
Does anyone know about this for the Vcore line?
