Yonex Vcore Tour 89 and 97 specs

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
Wow they like the 89

Yup. Not gonna lie, they made me want to demo the 89 as well. Interesting about the longer throat/shortening the length while keeping it wide part too. If it's stiff and comfy as they say, thats my favorite combination (like the 85/90 inch wilsons or the 6.1's). If the sweet spot is as big as they say, this may be the stick to use daily instead of my PS85. I hope that we can hear a review of the 330gm tour and get that version stateside.
 
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JGads

G.O.A.T.
They look like they're floating their shots a bit, which isn't always the case. Paintjobs do like very nice on those sticks.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
Well, I moved back to the RQiS 1 Tour because I missed it's feel. But I moved AWAY from it because of it's headsize combined with my inability to volley. I'm with the EZONE Xi98 right now and pretty happy, especially now that I've discovered PolyTour Spin in it at 45 lbs. And I added some lead tape to 3 and 9. Stock form was too instable for me, again, I hit a lot of off-centered volleys.

I'll try out the 97T G (310g) and HG (330g) versions with the intention of switching purely because it's a new racquet. hehe.

How is the spin production of Xi 98?

Is it open pattern, spin friendly??

In this video review they said the VCORE TOURs are spin friendly, so more than never I will demo the 97 310g. I wonder if it is because the the longer throat.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
How is the spin production of Xi 98?

Is it open pattern, spin friendly??

In this video review they said the VCORE TOURs are spin friendly, so more than never I will demo the 97 310g. I wonder if it is because the the longer throat.

I don't believe in "Spin friendly" racquets.

I get enough spin from the Xi98. But, I'm not really a spin player.
 

Casco

Semi-Pro
Just noticed new infor on the Yonex website:
The Vcore Tour 97 will come in two weights 310 (H) AND 330 grams (HG).
330 grams has me very interested in this stick.
Pretty happy with my Babolat PSTGTs with 4 inches of 1/4 inch lead tape centered around 930 and 230, but feel like I'm loosing a little feel through the Woofer and wouldn't mind just a little more weight. And I really liked the Yonex's that I've previously owned - the 100MP (which was similar spec to my PSTGTs) and the 002 Tour (330 grams like the HG Vcore Tour 97).
 

Snaab

Semi-Pro
310 vs. 330 grams

Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.
 

Automatix

Legend
Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.

Both weight versions will be available. So if you want a G5 310g version that is not a problem.
 

corners

Legend
Now the question is: for the 97 Tour, will the 310 gram unstrung weight model be available in the larger grip sizes or will only the heavier 330 gram model (ala RD Ti-80)? If they make the 310 gram weight in a G5 grip I am in.

They are using the same G and HG designations they did with the Rdis 200, where both versions are offered in overlapping grip sizes.
 

corners

Legend
So they are using some kind of "micro core" material in these frames. I wonder if they too are using a "smart foam" like Donnay is doing with their "XeneCore", which is nothing more than a smart foam called Expancel.

Yonex may be using something completely different though.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
So they are using some kind of "micro core" material in these frames. I wonder if they too are using a "smart foam" like Donnay is doing with their "XeneCore", which is nothing more than a smart foam called Expancel.

Yonex may be using something completely different though.

The Microcore looks to be high-density foam injected into the frame ONLY at 2 and 10.

Looks to be a weight-related technology that then produces a stabler racquet face.
 
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baowow

Rookie
Looking forward to the vcore 89. only been using the vcore 95 for about a month. Might have to switch again.

Why EU always get racquets before the US?
 

syke

Professional
Someone needs to demo the entire 89, 95, 97, 98, 100 Vcore range! We need a thorough breakdown on each of these racquets.
 

Pocky

Rookie
I am truly at a loss.... what purpose does this racquet have? It's 10 grams lighter and 2 sq inches bigger than the 95d and called a "tour" and has the same string pattern? so what makes it noticeably different from the 95d? I was really hoping for a 16 x 19 complement to the 100s.

When you're really good, 10grams and 2sq inches is a completely different racquet.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
The 89 looks like it could have the same stiffness as the rds001 mid. YES!!! 64 but felt like 60. I'm just guessing this from the description 'stiff' yet 'comfy'.

RqIsTour was good but throat was way too flexy and redirection of shots became tricky.

RDS001 mid was one of my favorites. Had a nice overall flex to it, crisp but comfortable, powerful yet control oriented and not too much pop like the rdis93. From what I've heard, the vcore95 is quite the 'beast' in terms of pop. Not what I want.

The only thing that pisses me off about Yonex, every two years they go in a completely different direction with their line, alienating their base while trying to get converts. You can do both.

The 89 is going to be just like the RDS001mid, I HOPE!!! Heavier, denser pattern and hopefully more HH and maybe one notch down in terms of RDC to compensate for the extra weight.

Anyone got any flex ratings for these yet?
 
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XFactorer

Hall of Fame
The 89 looks like it could have the same stiffness as the rds001 mid. YES!!! 64 but felt like 60. I'm just guessing this from the description 'stiff' yet 'comfy'.

RqIsTour was good but throat was way too flexy and redirection of shots became tricky.

RDS001 mid was one of my favorites. Had a nice overall flex to it, crisp but comfortable, powerful yet control oriented and not too much pop like the rdis93. From what I've heard, the vcore95 is quite the 'beast' in terms of pop. Not what I want.

The only thing that pisses me off about Yonex, every two years they go in a completely different direction with their line, alienating their base while trying to get converts. You can do both.

The 89 is going to be just like the RDS001mid, I HOPE!!! Heavier, denser pattern and hopefully more HH and maybe one notch down in terms of RDC to compensate for the extra weight.

Anyone got any flex ratings for these yet?

I looove the RQiS 1 Tour. The EZONE Xi98 is softer than the VCORES, but, still not there in terms of that intangible feeling I get with the RQiS 1 Tour. I hope maybe the 89 can fill that void... they did mention how it plays a lot bigger than the head size suggests.

Wish Yonex would come out with some flex ratings along with the regular mumbo jumbo specs.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
I think you meant RA.

RDC - Racquet Diagnostic Center.

Yep, that's what I meant, thanks. ;)

I looove the RQiS 1 Tour. The EZONE Xi98 is softer than the VCORES, but, still not there in terms of that intangible feeling I get with the RQiS 1 Tour. I hope maybe the 89 can fill that void... they did mention how it plays a lot bigger than the head size suggests.

Wish Yonex would come out with some flex ratings along with the regular mumbo jumbo specs.

Flex is always the last spec to come out. RQiS Tour was/is a great stick and one that really needs more than 1 demo to dial in. It never took me that long to get dialed in with a stick, as it did with the RQiSt. Felt extremely under-powered but yet had massive spin potential. Just encompassed the ball. Slices were amazing with this one, flat anything felt lacking but you could toy with your opponent all day with spin.

Good news about the 89. That's how I felt about the rds001mid, played a lot bigger than the 90sq. Should have never sold that one. Flex ratings can be deceiving and in the end materials and distribution play a far greater role in determining feel.

MgPresMid+ and MgPresMid are both supposedly 63, play much closer to 60. The rds001mid was a 64, felt like a 60 and another all time favorite of mine the rds002Tour was supposedly a 65, yet had tremendous touch/feel and was in line with some 61/62ra sticks I've played. If the 97 plays anything like the rds002tour, yonex has a winner.

Those are the two sticks that yonex is missing from their line-up, the rds001mid and rds002tour. Hopefully these upcoming vTours will fill those voids.
 

Automatix

Legend
It is very important where exactly the frame is more flexible and where it is stiffer.
The Bab RDC machine gives only one number - for flex at the bridge area.

Now I wonder how would it look like if all new racquets were tested on the Flex Infinity Machine...

draw1.gif
 

Automatix

Legend
Good news about the 89. That's how I felt about the rds001mid, played a lot bigger than the 90sq. Should have never sold that one. Flex ratings can be deceiving and in the end materials and distribution play a far greater role in determining feel.

MgPresMid+ and MgPresMid are both supposedly 63, play much closer to 60. The rds001mid was a 64, felt like a 60 and another all time favorite of mine the rds002Tour was supposedly a 65, yet had tremendous touch/feel and was in line with some 61/62ra sticks I've played. If the 97 plays anything like the rds002tour, yonex has a winner.

Those are the two sticks that yonex is missing from their line-up, the rds001mid and rds002tour. Hopefully these upcoming vTours will fill those voids.
I think both the 89 and the 97 can fill the gap in the Yonex line up.

The 97 for now seems like a very versatile and modern racquet maintaining a nice thin beam.

The 95D and 98D are very good racquets but let's face it... the 95D just doesn't cut it for those looking for a classic Midsized racquet while the 98D is a bit, well thick beamed. Most manufacturers have a racquet which is 98 sq. inches with ca. 21mm beam in their line up Yonex did not (in the Vcore line). I think they were missing on a more control oriented ca. 98 square inch frame. Well, not any more. I think the 97 Tour fills the gap between the 95D and 98D very nicely and thanks to 2 weight versions you can decide if you prefer heavier or lighter.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
It is very important where exactly the frame is more flexible and where it is stiffer.
The Bab RDC machine gives only one number - for flex at the bridge area.

Now I wonder how would it look like if all new racquets were tested on the Flex Infinity Machine...

draw1.gif

How much is one of these machines.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
When you're really good, 10grams and 2sq inches is a completely different racquet.

Exactly, the guy has been ranting about it all thread long.

Stiffness alone is what he buys racquets based on, while there are many things that make a racquet great, stiffness is what I don't even care much, but to each his own!

Many racquets can feel great as mine do rating 68 or something, when I bought them I just play tested and went with without even knowing about how stiff, they were.

Is good to remind him there are other brands making racquets and Yonex is not forcing him to buy anything.
 

sw00sh

Rookie
Well, I moved back to the RQiS 1 Tour because I missed it's feel. But I moved AWAY from it because of it's headsize combined with my inability to volley. I'm with the EZONE Xi98 right now and pretty happy, especially now that I've discovered PolyTour Spin in it at 45 lbs. And I added some lead tape to 3 and 9. Stock form was too instable for me, again, I hit a lot of off-centered volleys.

I'll try out the 97T G (310g) and HG (330g) versions with the intention of switching purely because it's a new racquet. hehe.

Ah I see, wish you best of luck and dont forget to give us a review once you tried those 97T with both weights.

Thanks!
 

sw00sh

Rookie
The review from the guys from Stringer's world about the stiffness is just that the racquets play stiff.

Klementine79, I am like you hoping that the stiffness is close to RDS001 but away from RDiS100 (too stiff). For both 89T and 97T. :)
 

sargeinaz

Hall of Fame
I agree, the RDiS100 mid was way too stiff and hurt my arm. The RDS001 was perfect. Nice and crisp, but still very comfortable.
 

mjwtpro1

Rookie
Yeah the Tour 97 330g. sounds just right, I wonder what the stifness rating will be...but I just bought 3 PD 2012's all spec'd and matched....Yonex keeps sucking me in, and it sounds like the 89 is pretty amazing too.....:/
 

syke

Professional
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.
 
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tistrapukcipeht

Professional
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.

Exactly why I like it, the stock 4 5/8 are like 4 1/2 plus (or 4 5/8 minus)from other companies.

I like its feel better than other grips, even with an overgrip I can tell the difference, however I would not mind putting a leather on my Xi or on Xi Team Plus, fairway, maybe later, because now the Xi 100 racquet is just perfect for me as it comes from manufacturer, a lot of power and spin, stability and touch, I have been cracking the ball at my 4.5 league matches, I only lost one in 5.
 

klementine

Hall of Fame
Y-ah-nex
or
Yo-nex

I say Y-ah-nex. Was looking into the 89... but the 97 is looking more and more attractive.

These two sticks have to fill the void left behind by rds001mid and rds002tour. Two great sticks that are missing from the current yonex line-up.
 

Automatix

Legend
I wish the sticks would be released already...

Also keeping my fingers crossed that the rumour about the thin leather grip is true...
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
Y-ah-nex
or
Yo-nex

I say Y-ah-nex. Was looking into the 89... but the 97 is looking more and more attractive.

These two sticks have to fill the void left behind by rds001mid and rds002tour. Two great sticks that are missing from the current yonex line-up.

whatever you call, i say YY racquets, i think you pronounce Yo... nex.

Just call the Japanese high quality racquets.

The other day I said when somebody asked me what kind of racquets I use: "I got some of those Japanese premium racquets".
 

Fed Kennedy

Legend
You guys should really consider the 310 version. Yonex stock grip is thin, light and squishy. It sucks basically.

If you replace them with a leather grip, add in the strings, overgrip and dampener, you will easily hit 345g with the 310. Do that with a 330, you will get 365g, which will be unwieldy and gives little room to further tweak the balance.

This is good knowledge. The yonex stock grip is like made out of paper. Throw on a bab laether for a better experience.
 

Automatix

Legend
Well if the specs - swingweight and flex (hope it will be low, though it doesn't seem to be the case) are up my alley I'm going to replace the grips with leather and possibly add a tiny bit of silicone in the handle - this stuff works wonders.
 

Chyeaah

Professional
No. 1 concern. It will be too low powered for me D=. 97 SQ IN and thinnnn beam, probably lower flex from the 100S xD Just realised it was 330 Unstrung xD Definately getting a 310 now.
 
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Meaghan

Hall of Fame
I think its been said so I apologise in advance but Yonex have Stan now sporting the vct97 (in foto gallery and blurb).....they still havent changed his profile pic tho!
 
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