Yonex Vcore Tour 89 and 97 specs

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
All these comments really wanting me to try (just try.. really) the 89's. The smaller headsize should help at the net. Serving would be a pain again, but the wider face should help keeping the spin I got from the RQiS.

XFactorer - can you comment if the wider face does help with the spin?

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Compared to the RQiS 1 Tour, the VCT89 is about the same in width. I haven't noticed much of a dead zone except towards the tip - but I haven't shanked much with the racquet (which, honestly, surprises me). I think the thinner beam at 3 and 9 help out a lot - the RQiS had wide hoop at 3 and 9 and the balls would catch a lot on my particular style of groundstrokes. I volley well enough nowadays to be able to play with an 89 and the mass of the racquet helps out.

If my picture will pull up, I have the RQiS 1 Tour in front of the VCT89. It's not totally centered, but, as you can see the throat is moved up and that's about all you're losing. I found the frame's sweet spot to be REALLY SWEET! Unless I hit the frame or dampener, all the shots seemed solid enough. You'll lose a little feeling if you hit up towards the tip of the racquet, but, it's not too bad since the ball will go over the net with the help of the weight.

I really cannot compare serving with this racquet to any other as I recently received a life-changing serving tip from my tennis pro... apparently I dropped my elbow after I was in the trophy position. Anyway, I have not had a hard time serving with this racquet with my better technique. But, I haven't served or played with my old racquet (Xi98) since the lesson, either. I'm really loving this racquet. Still need to put in poly in the stick.

What does everyone else think of the 97 and the 89? They feel about the same - or the same enough to know they're within the same line of racquets. I just felt the 97 is a little more cumbersome - and slightly more poppy (in a good way, if you need the pop). This is my first time playing with a 12+ racquet. The RQiS 1 Tour was an 11.9 which was good, but I felt it was small and moved to a 98. Now, I'm thinking the 89 is golden!

And the spin? As mentioned above, so far I've shanked fewer balls with the VCT89 and I think it's because there's less hoop at 3 and 9. I had no trouble accessing spin (with an altered swing - I normally hit relatively a flat-topspin ball, if that makes sense). As long as you have a stroke that produces spin, this will spin the ball. (I'm not a big believer in a racquet inherently having spin-producing capabilities)
 
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edwincen

Rookie
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Compared to the RQiS 1 Tour, the VCT89 is about the same in width. I haven't noticed much of a dead zone except towards the tip - but I haven't shanked much with the racquet (which, honestly, surprises me). I think the thinner beam at 3 and 9 help out a lot - the RQiS had wide hoop at 3 and 9 and the balls would catch a lot on my particular style of groundstrokes. I volley well enough nowadays to be able to play with an 89 and the mass of the racquet helps out.

If my picture will pull up, I have the RQiS 1 Tour in front of the VCT89. It's not totally centered, but, as you can see the throat is moved up and that's about all you're losing. I found the frame's sweet spot to be REALLY SWEET! Unless I hit the frame or dampener, all the shots seemed solid enough. You'll lose a little feeling if you hit up towards the tip of the racquet, but, it's not too bad since the ball will go over the net with the help of the weight.

I really cannot compare serving with this racquet to any other as I recently received a life-changing serving tip from my tennis pro... apparently I dropped my elbow after I was in the trophy position. Anyway, I have not had a hard time serving with this racquet with my better technique. But, I haven't served or played with my old racquet (Xi98) since the lesson, either. I'm really loving this racquet. Still need to put in poly in the stick.

What does everyone else think of the 97 and the 89? They feel about the same - or the same enough to know they're within the same line of racquets. I just felt the 97 is a little more cumbersome - and slightly more poppy (in a good way, if you need the pop). This is my first time playing with a 12+ racquet. The RQiS 1 Tour was an 11.9 which was good, but I felt it was small and moved to a 98. Now, I'm thinking the 89 is golden!

And the spin? As mentioned above, so far I've shanked fewer balls with the VCT89 and I think it's because there's less hoop at 3 and 9. I had no trouble accessing spin (with an altered swing - I normally hit relatively a flat-topspin ball, if that makes sense). As long as you have a stroke that produces spin, this will spin the ball. (I'm not a big believer in a racquet inherently having spin-producing capabilities)

How does the 89 feel compared to RDS001 Mid sir?
 

baronwu

New User
@dimak
i was waiting for this 89 tour but after reading the nascent reviews, the blx ps 90 and the prestige ig mid seem better. now the issue is choosing btwn those (since i can't demo) :-(
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
How does the 89 feel compared to RDS001 Mid sir?

I didn't play with the mid. I played with the mid plus. But, I'd assume the RDS001 mid would be a little stiffer and crisper than this. The 89 is a softer stiff-frame, if that makes sense. There isn't much give in the throat but there's a softness to the rigidity of the frame. Or maybe it's just the Wilson NXT demo strings making it feel OK.
 

borgpro

Semi-Pro
I can pretty much echo everything XFACTOR said about the new tours. Just rallied for 1 1/2 hrs but was very impressed with the 89. The 97 was nice but just not special like the 89. It was strung with a cheap Wilson syn. gut but still played very nice. My partener wanted to work on his backhand and I was able to place the ball deep and hard in the add corner time after time. Swinging for the fences with an inside-out forehand and it just keeps going in. Hits a relatively low, flat ball with MY strokes but there is enough topspin for control. My backhand didn't click as fast as my forehand but I'm sure it will come. Volleys were rock solid and just too much fun. I hit a total of 6 serves so no comment. I went back to my Ki5 after and it felt like Big Bubba in comparison. The 89 just comes around so nice even tho it's heavier. The last Yonex I played with were the 002 tours but I might be coming back. The Pro Kennex Q Tour is in the bag for tomorrow which I have high hopes for, so we'll see how they measure up.

Have you tried the Q tour yet, and despite the fact that the frames are different ( head size, string pattern) can you compare? I use the Q now for a couple of weeks and I really really like it (x-factor!, best frame I tried since a long time). I have just been looking at the news about the yonex 89 since I like, and have played my whole life with, players rackets.
 
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dimak

New User
@dimak
i was waiting for this 89 tour but after reading the nascent reviews, the blx ps 90 and the prestige ig mid seem better. now the issue is choosing btwn those (since i can't demo) :-(

I'm going to try 89 an 97 again - may be I'll find something new, but if you are trying to chose between blxps90 and Prestige IG MP - both are very different frames and in different weight category. But both are great. After hitting with all frames I still like my 95d more (but it's me).
 

dimak

New User
Thanks dimak. I am 95 user. I like the high power level of 95. How is the power of the tours. They look thinner than I expected. Is it more of a ti80, pog type power level?

95d has 'easy' power, which you can use during the long play. New tours have power, but swinging them require more work to add and you should be in better shape. My tennis partner who, use BLX90, tried 97 and told me that it feels heavier and getting hit tired quickly (I also played with BLX90 before 95d)

Anyway, I'm going to try both 89 and 97 again today.
 

edwincen

Rookie
95d has 'easy' power, which you can use during the long play. New tours have power, but swinging them require more work to add and you should be in better shape. My tennis partner who, use BLX90, tried 97 and told me that it feels heavier and getting hit tired quickly (I also played with BLX90 before 95d)

Anyway, I'm going to try both 89 and 97 again today.

which 97 you'll try? i'm thinking of 310gr 97 with leather grip..
 

dimak

New User
95d has 'easy' power, which you can use during the long play. New tours have power, but swinging them require more work to add and you should be in better shape. My tennis partner who, use BLX90, tried 97 and told me that it feels heavier and getting hit tired quickly (I also played with BLX90 before 95d)

Anyway, I'm going to try both 89 and 97 again today.


Second try:
89 feels better than 97, less muted and easier to swing.
I think that 89 with leather grip ( to change balance and make it swing lighter) and some crisp poly will look really good. Put 89 on top of 95d - top half has the same size (then 89 narrows down) - probably sweet spot is close to each other. At lease I did not big feel sweet spot difference.
 

Fed Kennedy

Legend
Second try:
89 feels better than 97, less muted and easier to swing.
I think that 89 with leather grip ( to change balance and make it swing lighter) and some crisp poly will look really good. Put 89 on top of 95d - top half has the same size (then 89 narrows down) - probably sweet spot is close to each other. At lease I did not big feel sweet spot difference.

Cool.. can you compare it to the fed frame? Does it have a lot less power than 95d?
 

Dgdavid

Professional
Would you say the lighter Tour 97 available in the UK (310g unstrung) would be a good middle ground between the 95D and 98D (apart from the obviousness of the numbering suggesting it is)? UK spec is:

Weight 310g
Headsize 97 sq.in.
Length 27"
String Pattern 16 x 20
Balance 31cm
Grip Sizes 1 - 5
Beam Width 19mm-20mm

Also, I found the IG Prestige Pro i tested tonight to be harder work than the 95D and my recollection of my PS BLX 90 trial in February. Wondering if the 89 is going to be as playable as the 95D (or close to it) or significant less forgiving. Any views yet?
 
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tistrapukcipeht

Professional
First impression from 95d user - both 89 and 97 are too heavy (feels heavy ans swings heavy). With overgrip and yonex damper 89 - 12.5oz and 97 12.6oz. Both feels more flex that 95d. Serve is not as easy as with 95d. In other words these frames are very different than 95d and if I'd like heavier frame than 95d - will pick BLX PS 90, which swings much easy. If more control and feel on ball impact - Prestige IG MP.

Hope this will help

I'm thinking these were made for players with high technical level, so if you can't use them you probably don't have what it takes to use them properly.
 

dimak

New User
Cool.. can you compare it to the fed frame? Does it have a lot less power than 95d?

Third try:

put 2 overgrips on 89 - 12.6oz wight (close to leather grip setup and more head light balance). Control is great, better than with BLX90 or 95d (actually 20th cross of 89 on the same position as 18th of BLX90, so it's pretty dense pattern). Control impressed me a lot - that's what I'm missing sometimes with 95d. You can swing harder and still can keep ball in court. BLX90 swings lighter and so it's easy to play with it. Sweet spot feels bigger on 89 than BLX90. 89 is very demanding frame - requires great shape and good technic (I'm not the one - getting tired too quick when swinging it, but it was a fun). When came home I've figured out that 89 is probably in the league of KPS88 and should be compared against it.
 
The Tour 89 is a very playable racquet - big sweetspot, very stable, access to spin is improved (vs. RDX500 or RDS001) and a great weight/balance for serves. Very, very happy with the frame and have found it to be a better choice for me than the Wilson 90 or Prestige mid. Both the Wilson and Head frame are great performers but the Yonex sweetspot makes it more consistent for me.
 

maxpotapov

Hall of Fame
Very, very happy with the frame and have found it to be a better choice for me than the Wilson 90 or Prestige mid. Both the Wilson and Head frame are great performers but the Yonex sweetspot makes it more consistent for me.

How about overall feel, how different is it to IG Prestige Mid? (if that's what you referred to)
 
How about overall feel, how different is it to IG Prestige Mid? (if that's what you referred to)

Loved the IG Prestige Mid (a lot less stiff than the previous Youtek version).

Both the Tour 89 and IGPM are stable, ball control frames but I felt like the Yonex responded a little more when I wanted to crush a putaway, was a little more forgiving on off-center shots and won the battle (for me) on topspin.
 

Matchball

Semi-Pro
I hit with the 89 for a bit less than 1 hour today.

I confirm the easy access to spin and power :)

The sweet spot is large, indeed, but I -unfortunately- expected more stability considering the weight/category of the stick. Players who consistently hit with the upper part of the frame, especially when serving, will also like it a lot.

The Prestige IG Mid has a larger sweet spot compared to the previous version already and is more stable, with a more velvety, almost too muted feel. IMO it is the benchmark for both accuracy and stability (I use both the YTK and the IG versions).

The Vcore 89 produces a nice sound on impact, too - I think somebody alse mentioned it. I like the cosmetics.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
For you guys comparing the 89 to the IG Mid, how do the two compare in terms of how they move through the air? Stats say the Prestige is slightly heavier static but with just a 317 sw, while the Yonex is 330-plus swingweight, yet most are saying they're able to whip the stick through the zone well enough, and especially easier than the 97 version.

It's a shame that lighter 97 isn't making it to the states.
 

Matchball

Semi-Pro
I would say that the Vcore 89 moves slightly easier through the air.

But you can never be sure with weight and balance discrepancies among manufacturers... I shipped my Prestiges to DC, don't have them with me right now, otherwise I would go through a detailed comparison :twisted:

Other than that, there's probably some truth in what I said in that first line.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
I would say that the Vcore 89 moves slightly easier through the air.

But you can never be sure with weight and balance discrepancies among manufacturers... I shipped my Prestiges to DC, don't have them with me right now, otherwise I would go through a detailed comparison :twisted:

Other than that, there's probably some truth in what I said in that first line.

Yeah, plus the IGs, both Mid and MP, swung heavier than their listed swing weights due to weight distribution (more weight in throat).

I love Yonex attempting to make a different kind of Mid with the longer throat/shorter stringbed, while retaining a wider upper hoop. Props to them for the attempt, at least.
 
For you guys comparing the 89 to the IG Mid, how do the two compare in terms of how they move through the air? Stats say the Prestige is slightly heavier static but with just a 317 sw, while the Yonex is 330-plus swingweight, yet most are saying they're able to whip the stick through the zone well enough, and especially easier than the 97 version.

It's a shame that lighter 97 isn't making it to the states.


For me, the swing weights are deceiving. Both were maneuverable, easy through the strike zone and some of that is part and parcel of the head size. I never felt 'late' to the ball with the Yonex or the Head. I did feel like the Yonex allowed for better results on off-center hits. That was the decider for me - control of a mid in terms of the length of the mains, spin potential of a larger frame in terms of the width of the cross strings, all within a stable frame with a forgiving sweetspot.

I don't agree with the review in the video linked above when they indicate it is a stiff frame. It's not a noodle but there is flex in the head of the racquet that results in some nice dwell time.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
For me, the swing weights are deceiving. Both were maneuverable, easy through the strike zone and some of that is part and parcel of the head size. I never felt 'late' to the ball with the Yonex or the Head. I did feel like the Yonex allowed for better results on off-center hits. That was the decider for me - control of a mid in terms of the length of the mains, spin potential of a larger frame in terms of the width of the cross strings, all within a stable frame with a forgiving sweetspot.

I don't agree with the review in the video linked above when they indicate it is a stiff frame. It's not a noodle but there is flex in the head of the racquet that results in some nice dwell time.

nice feedback, thanks.
 

Drrjjj

New User
It seems like a lot of people are switching to yonex (wawrinka,tomic,wozniacki). I havent gotten to demo one though
 

jackcrawford

Professional
I'm not the target audience for the 89, 3.5/4.0 player, but I liked it. Very stable, good dwell time, large sweet spot, no dead areas. A little heavy for me in the third set, that's the only negative. Enough power for a squash shot on the run. This is one of only three mids I have ever liked, the others are the I.Prestige (stiffer), and RDX 500 (more flexible.)
 

jlan

Rookie
Finally got to hit around and play with my Tour 89 today. Initial impression is great! I usually play with a PS85 or RDX 500 Mid and felt totally comfortable switching to the Tour 89. My groundstrokes and serve were dialed in from the start, but my volleys just didn't seem as good compared to the other two racquets. For now, it's a tradeoff I'll take.

I know this wasn't much of a review, but I'll probably wait a few more weeks to have more court time with the Tour 89 before I give any in-depth review :)
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
I was browsing on Yonex site and facebook page and found a review of the VCore Tour 97, the guy who reviewed has a back ground with yonex racquets. For those looking for feedback this is interesting, great review to in my opinion, I was particular interested in the 97 lite, but ain't coming.

First of, I'd like to say I am a huge Yonex fan, loyal customer, I use and buy everything Yonex offers, I am also a racket collector, of course I collect Yonex rackets, I have more than 70 and around 15 different models of mids, many 95's and a few 98's, around 30 different models. I buy them, I don't get stuff for free to praise about, I'm not bias towards a certain Yonex model just to help in sales, whether it's new or from the 80's it makes no difference to me.

When I heard about the VCore Tours I was excited, right away I thought they were designed for Tour players, meaning heavier than what Yonex offers now on VCore line. When i found out about the specs and saw a 330g unstrung for the Tour 97 and 325g unstrung for the 89, I was very excited about it, Yonex had finally completed the V-Core line. Then the promo came out, Gyro drive, I thought "I want the gyro drive and I WANT IT NOW! Nothing against the regular VCores, but I like heavy rackets and I've been using them for a long time, I don't have that fastest racket head speed but for sure I know how to use the weight of the heavy ones and that's where my power comes from, I have a long swing and swing the heck out of it, no fear whatsoever.

First thing I noticed when I received my demos was the astonishing paint job, that would make Picasso proud, the color and finish is dignified of the cars from Maranello (Ferrari to those who don't know what I'm referring to) . These VCore Tours have the artwork with the most beautiful colors ever put together on a tennis racket, it's love at first glance, at the moment I had them in hands I knew it, all i wanted afterwards were the rackets to play the way i like.

I rotate rackets all the time, SRD Tour 95, RD-8, RD-7 and Yonex RDS mid made for a player, are in my bag now, but I still use all R series, RX series, URD Ti's, you name it, I have it somewhere around here and play with.

The Vcore Tour 97 is one of the best rackets Yonex has made in a long time, the feel of this racket is amazing, is very similar to the RD-8 that I love so much, it is explosive in the sweet spot (huge BTW), soft and a somewhat crisp at the same time, you swing it, you get the power, plenty of, it's kind like a video game, that suddenly you press "Boost" and there you go, you crush the ball, micro core works, so does the longer throat, I guess that's where the extra stability, power come from, it feels like an extended racket without being so.

This VCore Tour 97 is a like a tank in a mission, nothing stops it, hitting against heavy hitters is a pleasure, still feels like a pillow, no vibrations whatsoever, the frame whispers without making a noise, that's how great it is, I'm using it without vibration dampener with Yonex Poly Tour Pro graphite at 53/50, I never use racket with polyester without VD, I do now. One of the reasons why I use Yonex is because of its feel, I need the best feel from the racket as I use polyester. Down the line shots are kinda like a laser gun precision shot, it just hits the line or the 3x3 on the corner, precision is on serve is amazing, in the right hands this is a ball crusher, flat hitters will love this racket. It does produce a decent spin but not like the RDiS series or SRD Tour 95 (spin monster). The grip shape are excellent, better than RDiS, RDS, RD, and the grip is great as well, I can play with it, but I just chose not to, I prefer to use a Super Grap (also the best over grip) and change it when I need.

More impressive is the balance between hitting a heavy spinny ball and a flat shot, it works beautifully well on both, slices have so much pace and the balls almost slither on the court. On serve this racket shines in all types of serve, volleys are superb, it's not cumbersome if you have what it takes to use, it's not as swift as the 89, but no racket is, I found it to be very maneuverable around the net, I dig this racket a lot.

Yonex has done it again, no surprise anymore,they always raise the bar, they built one of the best rackets they ever made, if you are still hung up on SRD, URD, MP, HEAD Pro Tour 630, TGK, get over that, sell the old rackets, you can buy this one, much better performance racket overall, feel is subjective, but the rest this is the best MP on the market by an ocean distance, guaranteed, I still test frames from other companies, VCore Tour 97, has no competition, it's on a league of it's own, it is the most balanced racket made in the last 15 years for sure. I ahve had many pro Stock rackets, the 97 Tour put them to shame, the market value of this racket is the cheapest you'll ever get, you won't ever buy a professional racket this awesome for this price, unless you are Wawrinka and get it for free.

The reason why I love Yonex is because, all rackets they make, are different, different molds, technology really works, they're not BS'ing like all others do and deceiving people with BLX, IG, Youtek... they do improve rackets as crazy as it seems and leave the rest for us on the courts, if equipment by itself won tournaments Yonex would always win every tournament.

VCore Tour 89 review to follow soon.
 

Boricua

Hall of Fame
I was browsing on Yonex site and facebook page and found a review of the VCore Tour 97, the guy who reviewed has a back ground with yonex racquets. For those looking for feedback this is interesting, great review to in my opinion, I was particular interested in the 97 lite, but ain't coming.

First of, I'd like to say I am a huge Yonex fan, loyal customer, I use and buy everything Yonex offers, I am also a racket collector, of course I collect Yonex rackets, I have more than 70 and around 15 different models of mids, many 95's and a few 98's, around 30 different models. I buy them, I don't get stuff for free to praise about, I'm not bias towards a certain Yonex model just to help in sales, whether it's new or from the 80's it makes no difference to me.

When I heard about the VCore Tours I was excited, right away I thought they were designed for Tour players, meaning heavier than what Yonex offers now on VCore line. When i found out about the specs and saw a 330g unstrung for the Tour 97 and 325g unstrung for the 89, I was very excited about it, Yonex had finally completed the V-Core line. Then the promo came out, Gyro drive, I thought "I want the gyro drive and I WANT IT NOW! Nothing against the regular VCores, but I like heavy rackets and I've been using them for a long time, I don't have that fastest racket head speed but for sure I know how to use the weight of the heavy ones and that's where my power comes from, I have a long swing and swing the heck out of it, no fear whatsoever.

First thing I noticed when I received my demos was the astonishing paint job, that would make Picasso proud, the color and finish is dignified of the cars from Maranello (Ferrari to those who don't know what I'm referring to) . These VCore Tours have the artwork with the most beautiful colors ever put together on a tennis racket, it's love at first glance, at the moment I had them in hands I knew it, all i wanted afterwards were the rackets to play the way i like.

I rotate rackets all the time, SRD Tour 95, RD-8, RD-7 and Yonex RDS mid made for a player, are in my bag now, but I still use all R series, RX series, URD Ti's, you name it, I have it somewhere around here and play with.

The Vcore Tour 97 is one of the best rackets Yonex has made in a long time, the feel of this racket is amazing, is very similar to the RD-8 that I love so much, it is explosive in the sweet spot (huge BTW), soft and a somewhat crisp at the same time, you swing it, you get the power, plenty of, it's kind like a video game, that suddenly you press "Boost" and there you go, you crush the ball, micro core works, so does the longer throat, I guess that's where the extra stability, power come from, it feels like an extended racket without being so.

This VCore Tour 97 is a like a tank in a mission, nothing stops it, hitting against heavy hitters is a pleasure, still feels like a pillow, no vibrations whatsoever, the frame whispers without making a noise, that's how great it is, I'm using it without vibration dampener with Yonex Poly Tour Pro graphite at 53/50, I never use racket with polyester without VD, I do now. One of the reasons why I use Yonex is because of its feel, I need the best feel from the racket as I use polyester. Down the line shots are kinda like a laser gun precision shot, it just hits the line or the 3x3 on the corner, precision is on serve is amazing, in the right hands this is a ball crusher, flat hitters will love this racket. It does produce a decent spin but not like the RDiS series or SRD Tour 95 (spin monster). The grip shape are excellent, better than RDiS, RDS, RD, and the grip is great as well, I can play with it, but I just chose not to, I prefer to use a Super Grap (also the best over grip) and change it when I need.

More impressive is the balance between hitting a heavy spinny ball and a flat shot, it works beautifully well on both, slices have so much pace and the balls almost slither on the court. On serve this racket shines in all types of serve, volleys are superb, it's not cumbersome if you have what it takes to use, it's not as swift as the 89, but no racket is, I found it to be very maneuverable around the net, I dig this racket a lot.

Yonex has done it again, no surprise anymore,they always raise the bar, they built one of the best rackets they ever made, if you are still hung up on SRD, URD, MP, HEAD Pro Tour 630, TGK, get over that, sell the old rackets, you can buy this one, much better performance racket overall, feel is subjective, but the rest this is the best MP on the market by an ocean distance, guaranteed, I still test frames from other companies, VCore Tour 97, has no competition, it's on a league of it's own, it is the most balanced racket made in the last 15 years for sure. I ahve had many pro Stock rackets, the 97 Tour put them to shame, the market value of this racket is the cheapest you'll ever get, you won't ever buy a professional racket this awesome for this price, unless you are Wawrinka and get it for free.

The reason why I love Yonex is because, all rackets they make, are different, different molds, technology really works, they're not BS'ing like all others do and deceiving people with BLX, IG, Youtek... they do improve rackets as crazy as it seems and leave the rest for us on the courts, if equipment by itself won tournaments Yonex would always win every tournament.

VCore Tour 89 review to follow soon.

He says its great for flat hitters. I rely on topspin alot. Would this racket work well?

I have tried RDIS 100, VCORE 100 and 98. The 100 is the best for topspin but its too light and I dont like to use lead tape. The 97 is intriguing and tempting but I cant demo so its a tough decision to buy or not.

Yonex is in a class by its own in feel and construction thats for sure.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
He says its great for flat hitters. I rely on topspin alot. Would this racket work well?

I have tried RDIS 100, VCORE 100 and 98. The 100 is the best for topspin but its too light and I dont like to use lead tape. The 97 is intriguing and tempting but I cant demo so its a tough decision to buy or not.

Yonex is in a class by its own in feel and construction thats for sure.

I have no idea, I don't like small heavy racquets, I like 100-107 range, open pattern, middle road stiff and crisp.

I'm with you, I don't like to mess with lead... it takes a long time to figure out something, the less I tweak, better for me, it can be complicated, i don'tt have time to test, take out lead, put on... I don't like it. I use the racquet the way it comes, for that reason for me it is important to demo, because I don't do anything with the racquet, only 2 variables: me and the string.

I saw these VCore Tours, i agree, there are simply beautiful, I'd buy one 97 just because of the color, I'd probably buy the 89 just for the beauty of it and put on my wall in the basement.
 

Uvijek Argen

Semi-Pro
He says its great for flat hitters. I rely on topspin alot. Would this racket work well?

I have tried RDIS 100, VCORE 100 and 98. The 100 is the best for topspin but its too light and I dont like to use lead tape. The 97 is intriguing and tempting but I cant demo so its a tough decision to buy or not.

Yonex is in a class by its own in feel and construction thats for sure.

Boricua, before get to this, did you tried the Xi 98? Super confy great plow thru and a lot of spin( For me is like rds 001 MP softer and rejuvenate). I sold my 2 95d sadly cause I couldnt play with them in stock, have to put lead to stop jarring(and that was with full bed of gut) and become even more demand it.
Yonex Xi 98 play great on stock and no need of lead when you swing.

Te van a gustar, te lo aseguro.
 

Boricua

Hall of Fame
I have no idea, I don't like small heavy racquets, I like 100-107 range, open pattern, middle road stiff and crisp.

I'm with you, I don't like to mess with lead... it takes a long time to figure out something, the less I tweak, better for me, it can be complicated, i don'tt have time to test, take out lead, put on... I don't like it. I use the racquet the way it comes, for that reason for me it is important to demo, because I don't do anything with the racquet, only 2 variables: me and the string.

I saw these VCore Tours, i agree, there are simply beautiful, I'd buy one 97 just because of the color, I'd probably buy the 89 just for the beauty of it and put on my wall in the basement.

Give us your review if you demo them please. Thanks.
 

Boricua

Hall of Fame
Boricua, before get to this, did you tried the Xi 98? Super confy great plow thru and a lot of spin( For me is like rds 001 MP softer and rejuvenate). I sold my 2 95d sadly cause I couldnt play with them in stock, have to put lead to stop jarring(and that was with full bed of gut) and become even more demand it.
Yonex Xi 98 play great on stock and no need of lead when you swing.

Te van a gustar, te lo aseguro.

I havent used the Xi 98 but was interested for some time. Where I live I cant demo them unfortunately. The 97 seems like a demanding racket that can make you a better player if you persist with the racket. Ill be attentive to more reviews to come and decide later on to buy or not.
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
Give us your review if you demo them please. Thanks.

Boricua,

I'm not demoing this racquet, it's out of my league, I don't have what it takes to use it, its unstrung weight is heavier than my racquets strung with over grip and dampener, I'm only a 4.5, as I read on that review it is made for high level competitive players, they will get the rewards from it, not me.

Asking me to review it is just like asking a beer guy to be select the best wine, it doesn't make sense to me, it just isn't fair, you'll probably see guys trying to use it without having what is required, then the bashing will start unfairly.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Boricua,

I'm not demoing this racquet, it's out of my league, I don't have what it takes to use it, its unstrung weight is heavier than my racquets strung with over grip and dampener, I'm only a 4.5, as I read on that review it is made for high level competitive players, they will get the rewards from it, not me.

Asking me to review it is just like asking a beer guy to be select the best wine, it doesn't make sense to me, it just isn't fair, you'll probably see guys trying to use it without having what is required, then the bashing will start unfairly.

I'm only a 4.5 and I'm taming the VCT89 just fine... or at least I think I am. I demoed with NXT 16 at 2 above the mid... and I got the racquet with Yonex PolyTour HS at 50 (since it's reviewed as a stiffer string). Boy, there is so much power in this little 89 square inch racquet!
 

tistrapukcipeht

Professional
VCore tour 89 review!

Guys I was brwosing on Yonex facebook, the same guy who had done a review for the 97 also reviewed the 89. For those interested here it is:

Yonex VCore Tour 89 review!!

When I sat down to write my feedback about VCore Tour 89, I thought: What to write? How can you write something about something that is so perfect that one word can easily describe it? The word is: perfect, in all matters. If you look up the word perfect you'll find a few definitions, and the 2 that apply to this racket are:

1-excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement
2-entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings.

When people think about mid size rackets, I think they really relate to these: Pete Sampras (PS 85), Goran Ivanisevic used (HPC), Martina Navratilova(Yonex R-22), Hewitt used(Yonex SRD T90), Federer (we all know you can't buy it)... in my collection I let 2 go (PS 85 St Vincent and Pretige Classic), kept the Yonnies. I have R-50(88sq in), R-27, R-24, R-23, R-22, R-271 and some round ones, RX 330, RX 36, RX 32, bear with me if I forgot any other, I'm sure I did.

We all know in modern tennis, mid size rackets are almost as outdated and useless as black and white 19 inches TV from the 70's, it works but there is better, lighter and more user friendly with better perfomance.

So thinking about it, why is Yonex selling a 89 sq in racket? Who is
gonna buy something like this? In today's game on ATP there is only player using a 90 sq in, the greatest player to ever play this game.

So, are these Yonex guys nuts, wasting money and time? WRONG!!

Well, whoever designed and put this racket together deserves a Nobel prize in the racket business. This is the most unbelievable design for a midsize racket i have ever had a pleasure to use, there is literally performance in 85 sq in out of the 89. This is like a 93-95 sq in racket in a 89, that means, less weight to carry and maneuver, you get all the great qualities of a mid size, maneuverability, gps precision, more power per sq in/per gram than any other mid size in the market (Micro Core), along with the classic buttery pillow like comfort feel in this VCore 89 Tour without being too soft. Again, I have Poly Tour Pro Graphite with no vibration dampener at 53/50 in a 89 sq in racket, ZERO vibrations. Jaw dropping stuff! Only Yonex manages to make these rackets and they sell it to you.

The VCore Tour 89 shines like a diamond in every department, Yonex has raised the bar for a mid size 89 sq in racket, that will take another 10-15 years for another company to catch it, if they ever get it done. The mid are back, 89 Tour can be used at the highest level now, Hewitt would have loved to have this racket in his hands 10 years ago, 89 Tour outperforms the SRD Tour 90 in almost every department, so it does the same against Prestige Classic, Pro Staff 85... let's do not mention some newer encarnations of these classic rackets, because it can be embarassing.

As I used all these mentioned above, I can easily say of how much more performance you get with the VCore Tour 89, small sweet spot for mid size is part of the past, 89 is for real, a superb racket.

Comparing it with other mids in the Yonex family, RDX mid (awesome racket back then), RDS 001 (super spin for mid size), MP tour 1 mid (never liked it), RD Ti 70 88 (very hard to play with) the Tour 89 unifies the best of these in one. The feel is the old school, soft, holds the ball a little longer, powerful with control and extremely forgiving, very unlike a 89 racket as this one is, it is a real 89 sq in, I compared with several other 88's and 90's I have, it fits the bill, smaller than 90, bigger than 88, as funny as it seems, by no means it is a fake 89 unlike a fake 88 (that was actually 92sq or something) that came out a few years ago that was one of the worst rackets I put my hands on. It feels like an extended racket without being so. I love this racket, grip shape is similar to older Yonex as well.

I am used to play with 380g, 390g rackets, my RDS 001 mid 18x20 and 16x18 used by one of the biggest servers in history 365 SW, I have an R-22 that is 372g, that's right, 372g, unstrung, but with the VCore 89 everything is easier, you get a lot more per gram/ per sq in than with any other, so much more performance carrying less weight around, it plays bigger than it is, very similar to all newer Yonex rackets, VCore's and Xi's .

This is a classic racket without being a classic, this is a baby without a father to endorse it, really a shame, had this racket been used by Federer with whatever configuration He liked I could definitely see him winning more (I have played with his personal racket), the sales would soar just like the racket itself through the air with its model body type, it'd sell more than water. This is a Pro racket being sold in the market, take it, don't miss the opportunity.

I know 2 great players at 6.0 level using it already, one, as crazy as it sounds, hits with a 2 handed back hand. For sure, after another session with it, will be permanently in my bag, I love this racket, it is perfect, I don't need to say more about it, buy it a.s.a.p!!!

This is no R-22, this is no R-23 (my favorite of the mid R's), this is the Vcore Tour 89, an amazing racket, that let us mid size lovers use midsize rackets without having disadvantages because of its size, made for aggressive players (have that in mind), and With it you get as a gift the most beautiful paint job.

Good luck to all of those who will amuse themselves with this racquet.

I also looked on Yonex site, there are quite a few of their players using Yonex Poly Tour Pro (Maria Kirilenko...) Yonex Poly Tour Spin (Go Soeda, Jie Zheng...).
 

syke

Professional
Tistra,
You know where to find the Yonex Polytour Spin in reel form? TW doesn't seem to have them in stock.
I am tired with playtesting strings. I am just going to settle for these Yonex strings. Price/performance, they are the best so far.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Agree with the extremely high praise above, though he fails to mention that the stick is a tank. Need to be very strong to use it. These Tour 89s are very weighty through the air, but if you've got the tank arm to match it, it's an unbelievable frame. Too much for me, but incredible stick with a gigantic sweet spot for a mid.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
I'm really loving my racquet! I have PolyTour HS in it at 50, which is a little loose, but I had never played with HS and wanted to try it. Didn't know how to string it up, so I went for a lower poundage to compensate for the relatively harder feel compared to regular PolyTour.

The 89 really has helped me with my volleys. It has enough mass to not be pushed around AT ALL - something I've been struggling with, especially since I'm trying to move to a more elegant 1HBH volley.
 

Matchball

Semi-Pro
Already got 2 of them in my bag.

As I play more and more with them and having strung them with what I prefer as a string I see a lot of great qualities. In the beginning I thought they were not as stable as the IG mid Prestiges, but a lot of that had to do with the grip/overgrip combo...(!)

Having adressed this issue, one can appreciate the very easy access to spin and power - very non-standard for a mid. It's also -indeed- crisp but not too much and produces a Volkl PB 10 mid heavy-like ball :)

The only area the IG Prestiges are better is accuracy.

Very (increasingly) satisfied. Seriously, there is nothing bad coming out of this stick and the weight is nothing off-beat for players who play with this kind of stick. They will definitely appreciate the controllable power on demand they will find and control is probably more than you can get. Very big sweet spot, too for the more hesitant ones.

Winner stick.
 

borgpro

Semi-Pro
Already got 2 of them in my bag.

As I play more and more with them and having strung them with what I prefer as a string I see a lot of great qualities. In the beginning I thought they were not as stable as the IG mid Prestiges, but a lot of that had to do with the grip/overgrip combo...(!)


Winner stick.

What was wrong ánd what did you modify to solve the problem with the grip?
 
thoughts on the 97 tour

i've had a chance to play with the tour 97 a few times and thought i'd share my impressions since there doesn't seem too many reviews out yet.

can't offer too much insight since i don't have any experience with previous yonex racquets, and i just started playing again after a 2 yr layoff. this racquet was my "reward" for deciding to play again.

i was initially attracted to the paint job while at my local pro shop. it's got a metallic pj that you really have to see in person to appreciate. once i picked it up and gave it a couple of swings i was pretty much sold. my initially impression was that it felt solid, and it just felt real satisfying to swing it. compared to other racquets i picked up, it just felt more substantial.

not once did i even think about the weight until i came on here and started looking for reviews on the racquet i just ordered. i think this is where the layoff actually helped me. it's been so long since i swung a racquet on the court i lost my frame of reference. :p my guess is if i was used to playing with a lighter racquet then maybe weight would have been an issue.

anyway, this racquet is sweet. it's soft yet still feels crisp. as you would expect with the high sw this thing always felt stable and i never felt pushed around. it's one of the most solid and comfortable racquets i've probably ever hit with considering it's the first time i've used a racquet without a dampener.

it's great for hitting flat bombs from the base line, and to me played very much like a 18x20. top spin was good as well, but i don't think it was any more or less than with previous racquets. the one shot that really improved for me was my 2 handed backhand. i always felt i lacked a little punch, but i found it with the 97.

in regards to the technology of the racquet- the micro core injections at 10 and 2 remind me of wilson's pws at 3 and 9, as you can tell there is a bit extra weight there. i'm assuming that's what really helps increase the sweet spot and still produce good power at the top of the frame.

i did pull out my old mg prestige mp to compare, but by the time i switched i was already used to the 97 and it was just too light. i didn't feel like my shots had the same muster as with the 97, so i switched back quickly.

if there is one take away it should be that you shouldn't be scared to demo this racquet because of the weight. for those considering the 310, i saw the review of the 310 from stringers world, and the extra weight and balance of the 350 makes this a completely different animal. given that you would have to add lead to the frame and handle to achieve the weight and balance of the 350 suggest there are significant differences in the layup that you can't reproduce with lead.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
^^^^

Great post. My experience with heavier sticks (6.1 is one of my favorites) is that at first the weight does not bug me. It is later in the process of ownership..maybe on serve in set 3 in the hot sun where I finally notice it. So let us know how it goes for you over the course of matchplay.

I love the concept of the racquet..basically a Yonex 6.1 - a stick that is tour ready with no mods needed.
 
^^^^

Great post. My experience with heavier sticks (6.1 is one of my favorites) is that at first the weight does not bug me. It is later in the process of ownership..maybe on serve in set 3 in the hot sun where I finally notice it. So let us know how it goes for you over the course of matchplay.

I love the concept of the racquet..basically a Yonex 6.1 - a stick that is tour ready with no mods needed.
i'd contend regardless of your racquet you'll be tired serving in set 3 in the hot sun unless you build your endurance up to it. if you can play comfortably with it from the beginning then it's a fitness issue vs. a racquet issue. then again as we get older i suppose deteriorating fitness should be considered... :(

i actually have an old pro staff classic 6.1 in my closet. not sure how the specs compare in regards to weight, but the pro staff feels like a log compared to the tour 97. i'm wondering how i ever played with it when i was younger. if that's your reference point, then the 97 tour will feel light and maneuverable.

after holding them together i can tell the 97 tour is definitely polarized, but it's real subtle. just a nicely constructed and balanced racquet.
 

Matchball

Semi-Pro
What was wrong ánd what did you modify to solve the problem with the grip?

Actually, I found out that the overgrip I initially used was oldish and dry. I have now put leather grips and fresh overgrips and they play lovely combined with my preferred string set ups.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
i'd contend regardless of your racquet you'll be tired serving in set 3 in the hot sun unless you build your endurance up to it. if you can play comfortably with it from the beginning then it's a fitness issue vs. a racquet issue. then again as we get older i suppose deteriorating fitness should be considered... :(

i actually have an old pro staff classic 6.1 in my closet. not sure how the specs compare in regards to weight, but the pro staff feels like a log compared to the tour 97. i'm wondering how i ever played with it when i was younger. if that's your reference point, then the 97 tour will feel light and maneuverable.

after holding them together i can tell the 97 tour is definitely polarized, but it's real subtle. just a nicely constructed and balanced racquet.


Well..after using a 12.5 ounce stick and loving it for a while, then experiencing that exhaustion..then dropping lower to 345 and having no issues, I found - for my game, that 345grams is most likely my max.

Most people report that the tour 97 is a very tough racquet to handle. If I can find a demo, I will definitely check it out, as I am rather sure it is awesome. I have just been down that road before, and prefer 12ozs over 12.5. Once you hit around 11.7 or so, you really feel every gram added.
 

Boricua

Hall of Fame
Agree with the extremely high praise above, though he fails to mention that the stick is a tank. Need to be very strong to use it. These Tour 89s are very weighty through the air, but if you've got the tank arm to match it, it's an unbelievable frame. Too much for me, but incredible stick with a gigantic sweet spot for a mid.

I suppose this racket is better for players with more traditional, classic strokes. People with more modern strokes, that is, windshield type strokes, would not benefit that much. Do you agree?
 
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