You guys are all corrupt - Shapovalov

omegaman

New User
I you watched the match it was really a non issue.It was the heat of the moment and didn't have any impact or change on the rest of the match. Denis should have perhaps just brought it up to Carols on the next changeover.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I’m sure Denis feels a lot of pressure being the poster boy for his generation’s failures. But this didn’t help the public perception of things.
 

ichaseballs

Hall of Fame
we need to automate chair like we do line calls.
no one to argue against. i am glad we no longer have lines people and challenges.
 

Visionary

Hall of Fame
we need to automate chair like we do line calls.
no one to argue against. i am glad we no longer have lines people and challenges.
While we are at it, we should "automate" the rowdy fans and use of towels. That way, we can eliminate the subjective waiting time before the ball is served.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
The ones who move the most tickets and draw the biggest ratings are the establishment darlings. You're going to tell me that isn't Federer?

That makes him the most popular player, not the establishment darling. If he was, he wouldn't be getting the draws he did (almost constantly paired with Novak in 2008-2012 which was the peak big 3 period), have surfaces slowed down to his detriment and he would be enjoying the preferential treatment with umpires which he doesn't (and Nadal very much does).
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
I totally respect individual routines. But not if it disrupts the opponent. When a server bounces the ball 4-5 times on some points and then on important points bounces it 10-15 times (Djokovic) it can be quite disruptive bc the returner usually crouches down into a ready position once the server starts bouncing the ball. This can be mentally annoying AND physically tiring for the opponent to have to wait like that. There should be a rule that a server can wait as long as he wants within the limits of the serve clock to come to the line (so he gather his concentration) but once he’s there he should follow a similar routine. Back in the days of the epic Fed vs Nadal and Djokovic matchups even as a TV spectator, I couldn’t stand those long waits that Nadal and Djokovic put Fed through when they were serving.
imagine umpiring this...Player x gets a warning b.c. they bounced the ball 7 times in between serves when on average across the tour they bounce it 4 times. at some point, rule enforcement has to be practical.
 

jdx2112

Hall of Fame
I you watched the match it was really a non issue.It was the heat of the moment and didn't have any impact or change on the rest of the match. Denis should have perhaps just brought it up to Carols on the next changeover.
The problem isn't that Shapo is wrong. The problem is he let it distract him from the task at hand. Work the umpire during a changeover in a firm, but calm voice. This way you can possibly influence the next call while not losing your **** on the court.
 
You get more perks the more famous or rich you are. That is life. If Shap wins GS titles. he will get more perks. Maybe unfair but that is life.

I am sure being an elite athlete, Shap gets some perks in cutting certain lines or getting preferential treatment that Joe Blow, who he is jumping over, doesn’t get. Does he complain then?

The only one who really looks bad in all this is the umpire. So his response is doing nothing and then when the other person complains, he actually uses that as an excuse as to why the point has not started? That is some level of BS. Peeing on someone and then blaming them for it. At least be honest and say that Rafa is getting the Senior Buffet preferential rate.

Wonder what Rafa said to Dennis at the net?

"You do not like to play The Corrupt Tennis?"
https://wwos.nine.com.au/tennis/aus...ot-clock/4b66172b-fca2-4201-b602-16df16513b79

Rafael Nadal had to use all his experience as a statesman of the tour to calm a situation that was ready to explode as Canadian young gun Denis Shapovalov and chair umpire Carlos Bernardes got in a heated disagreement over the Spanish star's pace of play at the end of the first set of their quarter-final.

Nadal closed out the first set 6-3 and Shapovalov was left peeved at the time the veteran Spaniard was taking in between points ahead of the second set.

Shapovalov approached umpire Bernardes prior to the first game of the set and urged him to call Nadal for a time violation.


Minutes later, after Shapovalov won his first service game of the second set, the Canadian gestured to the umpire with eight seconds left on Nadal's shot clock, only this time Bernardes was not having any of it.

Shapovalov: He's not ready to play!

Bernardes: You're not ready either.

Shapovalov: What do you mean I'm not ready to play?

Bernardes: Because you're coming to talk to me.

Shapovalov: You guys are all corrupt...

Bernardes: You have eight seconds to play, what do you want? Why are you looking at me like you have to watch, you have the shot clock for this.

After the heated exchange with the chair umpire, Shapovalov and Nadal met at the net to discuss what was annoying the young Canadian so much.


"Rafa walked up with authority as if to say, 'Now son, come here' and put his hand out gently as to say, 'We don't have issues. You just get back there and play and we'll get it all done'," Todd Woodbridge said on commentary for Nine.

"It was like a senior defusing moment. A lot of other players would've gone a lot hotter a lot quicker than Rafa did."

Shapovalov was criticised for his move by US tennis great Jim Courier, who said the 22-year-old was "out of order".


"The shot clock was at seven and he had his hands up in the air like Nadal was doing something wrong," he said on Nine's coverage.

"Here we go, a conversation between the two players, we don't see that too often do we?

"Shapovalov has no business putting his hands up in the air when there's still time on the clock.

"If the clock's zero, then he should say, 'Bernardes, call it'. The frustration from the first set is bubbling over a little bit."
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Nah, they gave him a time violation recently against Cilic. And constantly put Novak and him in the same half off clay in 2008-2012 which benefited Nadal tremendously.



One tournament in a single year (which wasn't even fast but medium-fast) pales in comparison to systemic slowdown of the game across the board to help Nadal catch-up in the slam race, in addition to letting him ignore the time rule whenever he feels like it and starting the shot clock later for him.

Yeah bro , FO dead balls , roofs and night matches were to help Nadal . Even US open court has changed surface to less bouncy , AO is using dead balls and low bounce green set , all of these changes perfectly suit Rafa.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
'You guys are all corrupt!' - Denis Shapovalov in furious rant at Rafael Nadal and umpire at Australian Open
"You started the clock like 45 seconds ago and he is not ready to play," Denis Shapovalov began in his angry rant at the umpire over Rafael Nadal's apparent time-wasting. "You started the clock like so long ago and he is still not ready to play. You've gotta code him. Code him! He's not ready to play! Are you kidding me? You guys are all corrupt! You guys are all corrupt!"

Denis Shapovalov let rip with a furious rant at both Rafael Nadal and the umpire Carlos Bernardes during their fiery quarter-final at the Australian Open.
Absolutely livid at what he felt was the 2009 champion at Melbourne Park's constant time-wasting, the Canadian flew into an angry exchange with the umpire where he accused the official of being "corrupt".

With a 1-0 lead in the second set, having lost the opener 6-3, Shapovalov yelled at the umpire for not handing Nadal a code violation for taking too much time between points.

The exchange with the No. 14 seed and the umpire, as Nadal watched on from the other side of the court having not been ready to begin the game, unravelled as follows:
Shapovalov: "You started the clock like 45 seconds ago and he is not ready to play. You started the clock like so long ago and he is still not ready to play. You've gotta code him."
Umpire: "Yeah. I code him now, now you are not ready to play?"

Shapovalov: "Code him!"
Umpire: "For what?"
Shapovalov: "He's not ready to play!"
Umpire: "Yeah but you are not ready to play, because you came to talk to me."
Shapovalov: "Are you kidding me?"
Umpire: "I'm not kidding you."
Shapovalov: "You guys are all corrupt! You guys are all corrupt!"

Yes it does look like Carlos is corrupt and is suckup fanboy to Nadal, the the GOAT. or he's just afraid that Rafa will make sure carlos never umpires anywhere ever ?? except in local high school matches ?
 

Drob

Hall of Fame
Bernardes, after almost losing his career once upon a time for giving Nadal a time violation, understands the game and knows very well it’s very bad to antagonise Rafa.

when did that happen? Event and ca. I ask bec genuinely interested and would like to find out more. Thanks
 

Arak

Legend
when did that happen? Event and ca. I ask bec genuinely interested and would like to find out more. Thanks
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
That's not the incident I was talking about. I am talking about when Shapo is about to start a new game, and Rafa is not in returning position when the clock reaches 0. Shapo pointed it out, and Bernardes made the joke saying it was Shapo who wasn't ready, because he was talking to him (Bernardes). The other incident was a misunderstanding and Shapovalov made it clear what it was about in the presser :) (the incident when him and Rafa met up at the net)
But Rafa was serving when Shapo interrupted his routine to go and talk to the umpire.
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
It is 100% accurate because just like nole 2020 uso, shapo didn't mean to target anyone with his angry smack even though the ball did end up hitting someone.
Yes, your honor. My friend and I decided to have a few pitchers of beer before we raced our cars through the pedestrian crosswalk in the school zone mid-afternoon. But we didn't mean to harm anyone. It was just an unintentional accident.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
That's not the incident I was talking about. I am talking about when Shapo is about to start a new game, and Rafa is not in returning position when the clock reaches 0. Shapo pointed it out, and Bernardes made the joke saying it was Shapo who wasn't ready, because he was talking to him (Bernardes). The other incident was a misunderstanding and Shapovalov made it clear what it was about in the presser :) (the incident when him and Rafa met up at the net)
The serve clock hasn't reached 0, it was ticking towards zero (according to Shapo's own words). The shot clock showed there were 8 seconds left.
Of course, Shapo wasn't ready, because he was at the umpire's chair.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Yes, your honor. My friend and I decided to have a few pitchers of beer before we raced our cars through the pedestrian crosswalk in the school zone mid-afternoon. But we didn't mean to harm anyone. It was just an unintentional accident.

Not quite the same thing. More like you were riding your bike on the sidewalk in a place where that's legal.

You still have the responsibility to be very careful, but the risk of injury was always there.
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Only Canadians are not corrupt.

He took 29 seconds...

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clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Shapo believes that you can't have a toilet break if you've had an MTO and he doesn't know that an MTO is 3 minutes of evaluation and 3 minutes of treatment. He is also not aware of the the new toilet rule, brought in after Tsitsipas said he copied Djokovic by taking an extended toilet break when he is down.

New rules:
  • Players limited to one three-minute bathroom break per match
  • Additional two minutes to be allowed to change clothes
Stefanos Tsitsipas was accused of cheating at this year’s US Open by Andy Murray after the Greek disappeared off court at various times during their marathon first-round match.

The third seed had a lengthy toilet break at the end of the second set, a medical time-out after the third and a near eight-minute break at the conclusion of the fourth set. In his next match, Tsitsipas went to the locker room for more than seven minutes after losing the third set, and was jeered by the Arthur Ashe Stadium crowd on his return.

Tsitsipas argued that he was not breaking any rules, which is why the ATP has decided to act, although some may feel the new guidelines still do not go far enough. Although toilet breaks will be limited to three minutes, players will also be allowed two minutes to change their clothing.





This new rule started on 1st January 2022 and players are reminded at the start of every match of the new rules. There was an official with a timer outside the bathroom door where Rafa was changing his clothes saying 2 minutes left, 1 minute left, etc., so Rafa did not exceed the time. The 3 minutes doesn't start until the players are in the facility because the time taken to get to the bathroom varies from one tournament to the other.
 

Zara

G.O.A.T.
The fact that Shapo doesn’t know all these rules imply that he’s still very innocent and have no intention of using any of these to his advantage when things get tight. Therefore, together we are making Canada great again. Hear, hear.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
The fact that Shapo doesn’t know all these rules imply that he’s still very innocent and have no intention of using any of these to his advantage when things get tight. Therefore, together we are making Canada great again. Hear, hear.
Shapo smashes a ball in anger when things get tight.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa bashers have obviously not read the reason, they are constantly lying about why it happened.
 
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