Crisstti
Legend
Indeed. He was stalling on Rafa's serve. Should have got a code violation for insulting Bernardes as well.
Where are the threads about what a cheater Shapo is?
You guys are all corrupt - Shapovalov
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Where are the threads about what a cheater Shapo is?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Rafa has not played a full season since 2012 except for 2015 and he's never needed a WC because he hasn't been outside the top 10 since 2005.
How fortunate Nadal has been that he has always been fit enough to stay in the Top 10 for such a long time.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Really serious injuries are career-threatening such as the ones Murray suffered when he had to undergo surgeries to alleviate back problems and to replace part of his hip.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
No, he hasn't always been fit, he's just that good. He's missed 13 GS tournaments and retired from a few and played half a season many years.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
He has always been fit enough otherwise he would not be able to play at the high level he is still able to play at.
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TheNachoMan
Guest
I find Octo’s passion very endearing. She’s a girl you’d want in your corner
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
“Definitely felt like I had it on my racquet,” Shapovalov said. “Towards the third, fourth, fifth set, I felt like I was the better player, had more chances. Just one bad game for me.”
www.tennis.com
Just because Shapovalov thought he had it on his racquet he can't come to terms with the fact that, in reality, he didn't and he lost.
“A little bit of miracle”: the Australian Open quarterfinals have been Rafael Nadal's waterloo, but he survived disaster against Denis Shapovalov | Tennis.com
Rafa knows the struggle for a record-breaking 21st Grand Slam title has just begun.
Just because Shapovalov thought he had it on his racquet he can't come to terms with the fact that, in reality, he didn't and he lost.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
That doesn't mean he hasn't had mega time outs. Murray hardly had any breaks until he had his hip surgery after he had already announced his retirement.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Is 'Zara' a female or male name?
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TheNachoMan
Guest
Murray probably played more matches than anyone in the early to mid 2010s. Dude was a machine.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
Female. A blooming flower.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
So, you are a girl/woman who kisses girls?
Zara
G.O.A.T.
LOL that’s what the song says, yes. I am straight. Richie is however a bi posing as hetero.
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TheNachoMan
Guest
Katy Perry’s peak, much like Nadal’s, was 2008-2013. Not a coincidence.
HairyFoot
New User
Neither of the new rules you stated contradict the bolded statement, so Shapo is right.Shapo believes that you can't have a toilet break if you've had an MTO and he doesn't know that an MTO is 3 minutes of evaluation and 3 minutes of treatment. He is also not aware of the the new toilet rule, brought in after Tsitsipas said he copied Djokovic by taking an extended toilet break when he is down.
New rules:
Stefanos Tsitsipas was accused of cheating at this year’s US Open by Andy Murray after the Greek disappeared off court at various times during their marathon first-round match.
- Players limited to one three-minute bathroom break per match
- Additional two minutes to be allowed to change clothes
The third seed had a lengthy toilet break at the end of the second set, a medical time-out after the third and a near eight-minute break at the conclusion of the fourth set. In his next match, Tsitsipas went to the locker room for more than seven minutes after losing the third set, and was jeered by the Arthur Ashe Stadium crowd on his return.
Tsitsipas argued that he was not breaking any rules, which is why the ATP has decided to act, although some may feel the new guidelines still do not go far enough. Although toilet breaks will be limited to three minutes, players will also be allowed two minutes to change their clothing.
ATP calls time on toilet breaks in new guidelines for men’s tennis
Strict new guidelines on toilet breaks during matches have been sent to players by the ATP after growing calls to make lengthy visits to the bathroom a thing of the pastwww.theguardian.com
This new rule started on 1st January 2022 and players are reminded at the start of every match of the new rules. There was an official with a timer outside the bathroom door where Rafa was changing his clothes saying 2 minutes left, 1 minute left, etc., so Rafa did not exceed the time. The 3 minutes doesn't start until the players are in the facility because the time taken to get to the bathroom varies from one tournament to the other.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
No, he is just a great player. If Rafa had to rely on WCs for close on 4 years I think he would have called it a day. I've always defended Murray's use of WCs if anyone wants to give it to him.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
May lack humour a bit though. But then again who’s perfect.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Is it true that you can't have a toilet break if you've had an MTO? Could you reference the ATP Rule that says that, please.
Rorano_Fedalovic
Semi-Pro
yes. and the bitter truth is, shapo was denied such toilet break last year at wimby in the same situation...
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
Xisca kissed Jelena and she liked it,
she liked it.
she liked it.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
Was it against Andy? I don’t recall. I have questionable memory.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Toilet break, attire change rule effective at start of 2022 season
ATP has announced new rules relating to toilet breaks, attire changes to come into effect from 2022, in addition to a proposed change to the Medical Time Out rule (start date TBC).
Toilet Break & Change of Attire (Effective 2022)
- Players can take a maximum of three minutes once they have entered the toilet
- Players will receive two minutes for a change of attire in addition to the three-minute toilet break
- Note: Change of attire may only be done in conjunction with a toilet break (unless authorised by the Chair Umpire)
- A player may only take one toilet break per match
- Toilet breaks can only be taken during a set break
- Time violations will apply if a player is not ready within the allowed time
- One three-minute time out per match to be taken during a changeover or a set break only.
- If the player cannot continue to the next change of ends, he will forfeit the points required to get to that change of ends/set break
Toilet Breaks Medical Time Outs | ATP Tour | Tennis
ATP has announced new rules relating to toilet breaks, attire changes to come into effect from 2022, in addition to a proposed change to the Medical Time Out rule (start date TBC).
www.atptour.com
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Is that Rafa's fault? Blame the umpire. Rafa was denied time to change his shorts in Rio by, incidently, Carlos Bernandes, when players like Djokovic, Nishikori and Tsitsipas take up to 10 minutes toilet break beween sets. That incident in Rio was the reason Rafa complained about Bernandes because he had to turn his shorts the right way round on court wrapped with a towel because in his haste during the change of ends in order not to exceed the time, he had put them on the wrong way round and Bernardes wouldnt allow him time to go and turn them round. Bernardes actually told him that he would give him a TVwarning if he did.
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HairyFoot
New User
Then please explain why in the past, Shapovalov was denied to do the exact same as Nadal didToilet break, attire change rule effective at start of 2022 season
ATP has announced new rules relating to toilet breaks, attire changes to come into effect from 2022, in addition to a proposed change to the Medical Time Out rule (start date TBC).
Toilet Break & Change of Attire (Effective 2022)
Medical Time Out (Effective Date TBD)
- Players can take a maximum of three minutes once they have entered the toilet
- Players will receive two minutes for a change of attire in addition to the three-minute toilet break
- Note: Change of attire may only be done in conjunction with a toilet break (unless authorised by the Chair Umpire)
- A player may only take one toilet break per match
- Toilet breaks can only be taken during a set break
- Time violations will apply if a player is not ready within the allowed time
- One three-minute time out per match to be taken during a changeover or a set break only.
- If the player cannot continue to the next change of ends, he will forfeit the points required to get to that change of ends/set break
Toilet Breaks Medical Time Outs | ATP Tour | Tennis
ATP has announced new rules relating to toilet breaks, attire changes to come into effect from 2022, in addition to a proposed change to the Medical Time Out rule (start date TBC).
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Ask the umpire of his match at Wimbledon. Rafa has also been denied time to do things that others have been able to do. See my post at #227.
ElChivoEspañol
Hall of Fame
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa has also been unfairly treated by umpires.
In 2015 Nadal admitted requesting that Brazilian umpire Bernardes not be assigned to his matches after an incident in Rio in which Nadal said the official had not allowed him time to re-arrange his shorts after he had put them on back to front.
Nadal was asked about that incident again on Thursday.
“I can understand the time violations. I can’t understand when I make a mistake, I put my shorts the other way,” Nadal said to laughter. “You cannot force me to change my shorts in front of everybody. That’s not respectful.”
Changeover challenge proving tricky for Nadal
There is not much Rafael Nadal struggles with on a tennis court but when it comes to time management the 17-times Grand Slam champion admits he might have a problem.
www.reuters.com
HairyFoot
New User
Nadal being denied one time does not make up for the fact that umpires are more lenient with him compared to guys like Shapovalov
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I have always wondered why Rafa bashers' "sense of humor" vanishes when someone gives the bashers a taste of their own medicine.
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clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
You don't know how many times any player has been denied.
didnt nadal go in and change but put his shorts on back to front?
then wanted another visit to the change rooms to put his shorts on properly?
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Murray had a break at the end of 2013 when he underwent back surgery and he has never announced his retirement, not even after his hip re-surfacing procedure.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
He is fit enough to continue to be a great player. Without that fitness he could not continue to be so. How he would have re-acted to being forced to ask for WCs I don't know, you may be right. If Murray is not able to improve this year to even his 2019 level (when he won Antwerp) I think he will finally call it a day. It will seem pointless to continue.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder what it has to do with you, yet another new Rafa basher.
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Tennisbg
Professional
Both also look slightly older than their age.
junior74
Bionic Poster
Of course. But the rule makes no sense when executed like that. He was towelling quickly and was almost in position. That's why he complained, he has been a pro player for 20 years and didn't understand why he got a warning, because he did what had been allowed for 20 years. That's why I understand Rafa - he does what they allow him to. That's why I've always said address the umpires in this cases, not the players. If the rules are clear and the umpires execute accordingly, as will the players.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Rafa is a far too superior a player to be in the WC zone as he has proved since 2005.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Andy Murray retirement: Tennis stars pay tribute to '˜role model' Scot
Kyle Edmund led the tributes to his 'biggest role model' after Andy Murray announced his intention to retire.
By The Newsroom
Friday, 11th January 2019, 9:39 am
Updated Friday, 11th January 2019, 9:43 am
At a tearful press conference ahead of the Australian Open, the Scot laid bare the effects of the pain in his right hip that has dogged him for more than 18 months.
Murray is hoping to able to go out on home soil at Wimbledon in the summer but conceded Monday’s match against Roberto Bautista Agut in the first round in Melbourne could be his last.
Andy Murray retirement: Tennis stars pay tribute to '˜role model' Scot
Kyle Edmund led the tributes to his 'biggest role model' after Andy Murray announced his intention to retire.
www.scotsman.com
Seems I know more about your favourite player than you do.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Andy Murray announces retirement plans
Three-time Grand Slam winner Andy Murray on Friday announced that he plans to retire after this year’s Wimbledon but fears next week’s Australian Open could be the final tournament of his career
Andy Murray announces retirement plans
Three-time Grand Slam winner Andy Murray on Friday announced that he plans to retire after this year’s Wimbledon but fears next week’s Australian Open could be the final tournament of his career
www.nationalheraldindia.com
Aabye5
G.O.A.T.
The rules actually say Cilic was right in the Fed case, but you are right that spotty enforcement has made it confusing.
As for the bolded part, this is 100% true. And if a player feels really strongly, maybe they should join the council.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Hmm. Fed devotees have constantly been bragging that their beloved player is universally loved.
junior74
Bionic Poster
I know, Cilic was in the right. But Cilic has never served after 12 seconds in his entire career, and Federer knows that really well. So he knew there was plenty of time to go to the towel, which was on the same side of the court as he was returning. In other matches, Nadal towels of between every point with his back to the server and doesn't pay attention to his rhythm, and it seems to be alright for the umpires.
My point is when the consistency is this low from the umpires, we will get doubt and "situations", while the players really want to play tennis.
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
That's because Joker is almost as slow.
But Shapo is a barely man-child and has the intelligence of a pet rock.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The Paris Masters courts have been tailored for Fed more than once.
REMEMBER WHEN: The Paris Masters tore up their court, twice, specifically to help Roger Federer win
Carpet courts used to be all the rage in tennis - until tournament directors figured out they wanted Roger Federer more.
tennisbuzz.net
Dolgopolov85
G.O.A.T.
Shapo hurt his own cause by getting caught up in what Rafa was doing instead of focusing on his own game. But he is absolutely right that tennis has been corrupted beyond redemption now. I remember when Graf, yes Graf, got docked a serve for slow serving. Sampras too. You get comments these days about both players being bad losers but at least they played by the rules and gave a fair shot to a zoning opponent to beat them. The Big Three and mainly Nadalovic have used brilliant PR machines to cover up how much they have corrupted the sport with favouritism. Fed less so but he's not blameless. He took MTOs in AO 2017 to beat Wawrinka and Nadal and has done likewise on a few other occasions. No amount of Edberg awards can cover up that.
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