Young GOAT Rising - Greeegor's Grand Adventure

How many major would Greegor win in his career?


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Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
I see he is #16 in the race, which is wee bit better than I expected. He has a very realistic shot at ending the year at #10 at least—if he cleans up his performance slightly. More or less no chance at top 8, though, unless he suddenly enters overdrive :mrgreen:
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
Git rid of Rasheed!!!! Get a Magnus Norman kind of coach...Dimi's problems are his shot selection and his mental consistency/focus...he goes walkabout in matches...
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm beginning to think that he should follow Stan's example and take a break from his personal relationship in order to focus on his tennis. Whether you agree with that or not, it seemed to work wonders for Stan. Maybe it could do the same for Grigor? But I think he needs a change of coach first.

What a dumb suggestion. Does Maria have to take a break from Grigor for HER to do better? Why can she continue to go deep in tournaments and win titles but Grigor can't?

No excuses. Grigor is very good but he has no great weapons. He is a top 10-20 player. Nothing to do with coaches/personal relationships, etc.

The excuses for this guy are just......
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
What a dumb suggestion. Does Maria have to take a break from Grigor for HER to do better?

No, because her career is not suffering. She has been and continues to be near the top of her trade. She continues to put herself in a position to win Slams. Grigor is not currently doing this.

Why can she continue to go deep in tournaments and win titles but Grigor can't?

I don't know. Maybe because she is more disciplined and focussed than he is?

No excuses. Grigor is very good but he has no great weapons. He is a top 10-20 player. Nothing to do with coaches/personal relationships, etc.

Of course you may well be right. But I do think a new coach may revive his career just as it did for Wawrinka's. It's always worth a try.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
No, because her career is not suffering. She has been and continues to be near the top of her trade. She continues to put herself in a position to win Slams. Grigor is not currently doing this.



I don't know. Maybe because she is more disciplined and focussed than he is?



Of course you may well be right. But I do think a new coach may revive his career just as it did for Wawrinka's. It's always worth a try.

But suggesting he alter his personal relationship where he may be very happy is daft IMO. Maybe he should try another coach, that is a more reasonable suggestion than uprooting a personal relationship which may work for him.

IMO, all I see are a bunch of silly excuses from fans regarding Dimitrov. He does not have the tools to be a consistent top five player. I can't see it for the life of me. What has he won? He is 24. Yes, guys like Wawrinka and Cilic never won much and then won slams post age 25 but they both have big weapons in their game.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
But suggesting he alter his personal relationship where he may be very happy is daft IMO. Maybe he should try another coach, that is a more reasonable suggestion than uprooting a personal relationship which may work for him.

IMO, all I see are a bunch of silly excuses from fans regarding Dimitrov. He does not have the tools to be a consistent top five player. I can't see it for the life of me. What has he won? He is 24. Yes, guys like Wawrinka and Cilic never won much and then won slams post age 25 but they both have big weapons in their game.

It is a joke to suggest Grigor doesn't have big weapons in his game. One wonders if those uttering such stuff really watch him play much at all. He has a huge serve that is lethal when on, he is great at the 1-2 punch, his forehand is also one of the most dangerous in the game, and, to top it off, he has one of the best talents for net-play and volleys on tour.

His problem is not his strengths, but his weaknesses, gameplan and consistency.

I won't engage some of the other weird proclamations you have made here, but I'll note that the cocksureness you lay forth these opinions with seems a bit out of place. Did you not learn from your comments about Wawrinka pre Roland Garros?
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
It is a joke to suggest Grigor doesn't have big weapons in his game. One wonders if those uttering such stuff really watch him play much at all. He has a huge serve that is lethal when on, he is great at the 1-2 punch, his forehand is also one of the most dangerous in the game, and, to top it off, he has one of the best talents for net-play and volleys on tour.

His problem is not his strengths, but his weaknesses, gameplan and consistency.

I won't engage some of the other weird proclamations you have made here, but I'll note that the cocksureness you lay forth these opinions with seems a bit out of place. Did you not learn from your comments about Wawrinka pre Roland Garros?

I have watched Grigor play plenty and IMO he has nothing which separates him from about 100 other players. Yes, his serve is good and he can show some variety but it is not enough for me to see how he can win a slam or be a consistent top five player. In addition, as you suggested his tennis IQ/shot selection is horrible.

Re my prediction about Wawrinka not beating Djokovic in the RG final, I think that the majority probably felt that way but I sure am glad I was wrong about that one. ;) It isn't that I thought Wawrinka did not have the weapons to beat Djokovic, it is that I thought Djokovic with his consistency would outlast Wawrinka physically and mentally.

I am sticking to my Dimitrov prediction: He won't win a slam and he is a top 10-20 player.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
I have watched Grigor play plenty and IMO he has nothing which separates him from about 100 other players. Yes, his serve is good and he can show some variety but it is not enough for me to see how he can win a slam or be a consistent top five player. In addition, as you suggested his tennis IQ/shot selection is horrible.

Re my prediction about Wawrinka not beating Djokovic in the RG final, I think that the majority probably felt that way but I sure am glad I was wrong about that one. ;) It isn't that I thought Wawrinka did not have the weapons to beat Djokovic, it is that I thought Djokovic with his consistency would outlast Wawrinka physically and mentally.

No, no, no. Prior to the RG you said something to the effect of "Wawrinka has no chance of winning RG anyways, no matter if he plays warm-ups or not" and that it's a miracle he even one one slam (well, now he sits with two). I'm pretty sure you repeated this mantra pretty starkly several times.

Regarding the claim that Dimitrov has nothing that separates him from a hundred others, I think perhaps you need to look harder. I mean, you cannot even conceivably see how he could win a slam? It's very possible that he won't, I don't find it at all that hard to conceive.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
No, no, no. Prior to the RG you said something to the effect of "Wawrinka has no chance of winning RG anyways, no matter if he plays warm-ups or not" and that it's a miracle he even one one slam (well, now he sits with two). I'm pretty sure you repeated this mantra pretty starkly several times.

Regarding the claim that Dimitrov has nothing that separates him from a hundred others, I think perhaps you need to look harder. I mean, you cannot even conceivably see how he could win a slam? It's very possible that he won't, I don't find it at all that hard to conceive.

I did state on this forum that I thought Wawrinka's slam win at the AO vs Nadal in 2014 was a fluke and that I did not think he would win another slam. I started to change my opinion of Wawrinka after his AO 2015 performance vs Djokovic and after Wawrinka's thrashing of Nadal in Rome recently. Oh and also after his DC performance vs France. I have always liked Wawrinka's style of tennis and always thought he had a lot of talent but I thought he was a mental midget and most of the time he was. That started to shift in 2013 under Magnus Norman. His record vs The Big Four in slams since he started with Magnus has been a remarkable shift especially for a guy his age. I hope he continues to thrash Djokovic in slams for years to come.;)

As for Dimitrov, yes I will stick with my prediction. God knows I have been wrong many times before but I have also been right quite a bit.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I have watched Grigor play plenty and IMO he has nothing which separates him from about 100 other players. Yes, his serve is good and he can show some variety but it is not enough for me to see how he can win a slam or be a consistent top five player. In addition, as you suggested his tennis IQ/shot selection is horrible.

Re my prediction about Wawrinka not beating Djokovic in the RG final, I think that the majority probably felt that way but I sure am glad I was wrong about that one. ;) It isn't that I thought Wawrinka did not have the weapons to beat Djokovic, it is that I thought Djokovic with his consistency would outlast Wawrinka physically and mentally.

I am sticking to my Dimitrov prediction: He won't win a slam and he is a top 10-20 player.

Agree with all this but I do think Dimi can win a slam eventually.
 

ArcspacE

G.O.A.T.
Did Muller serve like Pete yesterday? How did Grigor lose?
He did serve really well but I felt Grigor's return game was very poor - he tried to drive everything back at Muller instead of slicing or blocking a few and trying to make the points longer. Gilles is hardly the best mover and he didn't make him run at all - quite the contrary in fact.

So from a tactical point of view - poorly approached. Another reason he needs a 'tennis' coach pronto and a massive shake-up. You can hear se sounds void of any confidence in that interview.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
One thing I find strange is the development of his groundstrokes…. I just looked at slow motion footage of his groundstrokes from 2010 through 2015 and until about early 2014 all seems fine, but then… I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's weird.

It looks a bit like he's trying to overemphasize spin? I'm not sure if that's all though.
 

MarcusInKensington

Hall of Fame
Decent serve and decent forehand, but at times the forehand lacks control. His backhand is very weak. Sure it looks nice aesthetically, but it lacks power and penetration and lacks control too often. His biggest problem is a lack of patience. Sometimes you need to play a waiting game, but he pulls the trigger too quickly, too often.
 

G A S

Hall of Fame
We need a dedicated thread for (Bouchard's) future No #1

With the grass season upon us, let's hope he can recover some form in what has been a largerly indifferent season so far

Predictions over the next few weeks?

I'd go with a Queens final and a Wimbly QF/semi

Vamos!



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just like this image, it all rests on his abilities to learn with his failures and mistakes.
 

ArcspacE

G.O.A.T.
Does anyone think he should enter one of the upcoming tournaments before Washington?

That's an awfully wrong break for someone struggling for form. Perhaps get a chance to hit a few extra balls?
 

Bad_Knee

Professional
Quite the opposite, he needs a break.

The fire seems to have gone out, no passion, hitting more balls in small tournaments would only make that worse.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Does anyone think he should enter one of the upcoming tournaments before Washington?

That's an awfully wrong break for someone struggling for form. Perhaps get a chance to hit a few extra balls?

Needs a boot camp/training period.

Make some changes in his game, get a coach, find motivation, get a coach.
 

ArcspacE

G.O.A.T.
Dimitrov's twitter. How are you not all over this? I was expecting running commentary!
I'm not on Twitter

This is somewhat mixed news for me - I would have kept Rasheed as fitness coach and simply added another 'tactician'. Perhaps Rasheed wasn't prepared to take a pay-cut (don't blame him - to date he remains part of Dimitrov's most successful mini-era)

Now Team 8 can really find a top name for him - Agassi or Sampras.
 
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JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
I'm not on Twitter


This is somewhat mixed news for me - I would have kept Rasheed as fitness coach and simply added another 'tactician'. Perhaps Rasheed wasn't prepared to take a pay-cut (don't blame him - to date he remain part of Dimitrov's most successful mini era)

Now Team 8 can really find a top name for him - Agassi or Sampras.


You live in dream world of echoing wash rooms ! Successful era ? Top names ? ROTFLMAO

I expect Rasheed dumped Dimo - Told him was a talentless idiot ...

Who the hell would want to work with that failure ? Agassi or Sampras ! LMAO ! Only someone as daft as you would want to work with someone who is that FINNISH.

They would never put their professional reputations on the line to work with never-has-been like Dim.....

Laughable to suggest such a thing...

May be you could persuade him to take you back on SpaceCadet ?

You and that moron would make perfect couple ! And I think you would be only person interested in the job ! LOL !
 

oble

Hall of Fame
Your post makes no sense - Rasheed helped him to 4 titles and a #8 in the world
I think he has plateaued from what Rasheed has to offer. He needs a new coach to turn his game around, incorporate all that athleticism gained from being coached by Rasheed into his game to take it to the next level.
 

ArcspacE

G.O.A.T.
I think he has plateaued from what Rasheed has to offer. He needs a new coach to turn his game around, incorporate all that athleticism gained from being coached by Rasheed into his game to take it to the next level.
I agree with all of that - but his post implied Rasheed was a disaster. Perhaps I simply interpreted it differently.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Your post makes no sense - Rasheed helped him to 4 titles and a #8 in the world

This is true.

But sometimes thinks come to an end, and this was a good choice from Dimitrov. Everything has stagnated and he needs a new voice and something new to his game.
 

JonnyMac

Hall of Fame
This is true.

But sometimes thinks come to an end, and this was a good choice from Dimitrov. Everything has stagnated and he needs a new voice and something new to his game.


I definitely THINKS DIMOs career has come to end - Dimo is FINNISH - It's over, there will be no come back, Dimo has said it him self - he's 24, he should be doing more by now. He plateaued at a journeyman level, stagnated, and now the only way is down the rankings. He'll never improve. he has no natural talent to build on.

It's all SpaceCadets fault - he's a bad fan to have for any player, - he's a jinx, a Jonah, a bad omen.

I pity the player Spaceboy chooses to Fan Boy next ...

Dimo had the chance of being a very mediocre journeyman until SpaceCadet came along to 'support' him - after that his career collapsed...

To have any chace first Dimo has to - Ban ArcSpace - from supporting him...
 

PeteD

Legend
he says he tried a fast electric bicycle but is the Instagram picture even an electric bike and why is he standing up to pedal on a level street?

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ArcspacE

G.O.A.T.
Young GOAT won his Davis Cup singles game 6:1 / 6:2 / 6:4

Bulgaria have a 2:0 lead over Luxembourg - Muller was not part of their team
 
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