Youngest grand slam champion (Del Potro) being 25 - ever happened before?

Locotus

Hall of Fame
Or at least it will be if one of the usual suspects wins USO this year.
Closest I can think of is Moya who was 24 when Safin won USO in 2000.

Did I overlook someone?
 

Goosehead

Legend
Or at least it will be if one of the usual suspects wins USO this year.
Closest I can think of is Moya who was 24 when Safin won USO in 2000.

Did I overlook someone?
you overlooked being accurate for a bloody start..:confused:

del potro is 24yrs old not 25, ..this is a thread for after sept 23rd when jmdp is 25.
 
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Goosehead

Legend
will Christian garin be the first 18yrs old winner of the u s open in 2013 or 2014 (whichever one he is 18 in)

or can rod laver stop him in the final..and become the oldest winner..aged 75/76yrs
 

egn

Hall of Fame
Has there ever been a point where the youngest active major winner was 24 besides now? That is the question. A valid one indeed. Further evidence of some sort of failure in development of talent on the mens tour.
 
he means that at this time delpo at 24 is the youngest slam champ (is this the only time we have had the youngest slam champ that old before among active players)
 

CDNguy87

Hall of Fame
you overlooked being accurate for a bloody start..:confused:

del potro is 24yrs old not 25, ..this is a thread for after sept 23rd when jmdp is 25.

That's why the OP added the qualification "or at least it will be if one of the usual suspects wins USO this year" (seeing as the USO is the only slam before September 23). Considering it's very unlikely we're going to see a new winner at the USO, this thread doesn't seem too premature.

He's asking whether it's ever happened that, at any given time, there was nobody under the age of 25 who could call themselves a Slam winner. I'm also somewhat curious about this and suspect it would be a first. This is just another way of reflecting how a handful of well-established players have completely swept every Slam over the past several years and precluded the emergence of any new/younger Slam winner.
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
with the 'Ever happened before', I think he means Del Potro is the oldest 'Youngest Slam Champion'
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
It's not about the youngest GS champ (we have Becker, Wilander, Chang who were 17 etc in that case)

It's about the youngest player on tour today to have won a GS, which is Delpo. And he is old!

The other slam winners currently playing, Nadal, Fed, Djoko and Murray are all older.
 
I can't believe how dumb some of the posters in this thread are to not understand the question. Or maybe I can because it really explains the idiocy in this forum.

OP is surprised to learn that the youngest active slam champion is 24, which is very old in tennis terms. Yes, we are all aware that others have won slams at a younger age - that is the point of this thread you fools. I too wonder if we will ever have another teen slam champ, and when the younger generation will step up.
 

Desertman

Hall of Fame
I just picked a year at random...... end of 1972

Ilie Nastase: 26
Stan Smith: 26
Andres Gimeno: 35
Ken Rosewall: 38
John Newcombe: 28
Jan Kodes: 26
Arthur Ashe: 29
Rod Laver: 34
William Bowery: 29
Roy Emerson: 36
Manuel Santana: 34
Fred Stolle: 34
Tony Roach: 27
Chuck McKinley: 31

That's going back 10 years so I doubt if any 15 year olds won a GS before that!
 
I just picked a year at random...... end of 1972

Ilie Nastase: 26
Stan Smith: 26
Andres Gimeno: 35
Ken Rosewall: 38
John Newcombe: 28
Jan Kodes: 26
Arthur Ashe: 29
Rod Laver: 34
William Bowery: 29
Roy Emerson: 36
Manuel Santana: 34
Fred Stolle: 34
Tony Roach: 27
Chuck McKinley: 31

That's going back 10 years so I doubt if any 15 year olds won a GS before that!
The slam winners in 1973 were Newcombe, Nastase and Kodes, so by the end of 1973, there would be no-one under the age of 27 who'd won a slam. :shock:
 

*Sparkle*

Professional
I can't believe how dumb some of the posters in this thread are to not understand the question. Or maybe I can because it really explains the idiocy in this forum.

OP is surprised to learn that the youngest active slam champion is 24, which is very old in tennis terms. Yes, we are all aware that others have won slams at a younger age - that is the point of this thread you fools. I too wonder if we will ever have another teen slam champ, and when the younger generation will step up.
Sometimes I think posters just want to point out that one of their favourites achieved something great, so before they've finished reading a question, they seize their moment.

Also, as soon as someone reads something they think is stupid. They just assume it's stupid. They don't stop to think if there is an alternative interpretation which would be more meaningful.
 

Fiji

Legend
The early 90s generation is rubbish, that's why. Raonic, Tomic, Dimitrov and co. are subpar.
 
The early 90s generation is rubbish, that's why. Raonic, Tomic, Dimitrov and co. are subpar.
As I've mentioned before, Janowicz is the only man born in the 1990s who has reached a slam semi-final. Considering that now includes everyone aged up to 23, that's pretty shocking.
 

MonkeyBoy

Hall of Fame
I'm guessing the OP means that Del Potro is currently the youngest active player to have won a Slam. Not sure what he means by has it 'ever happened before' though!
I think he means that there has never been an older youngest active GS champion.
 

Lukhas

Legend
Yeah i was thinking the same
(and my native language is not even english
)
En même temps, le titre/premier post du sujet sont mal fichus.../The thread's title/OP are vague...

You'd think it's about "The youngest slam champion on Tour", but the OP mentions Moya... You could think it's about "The youngest slam champion ever", but then JMDP is out of question since some players won a slam while being much younger. You could also think it's about "The youngest USO champion" since the OP mentions Moya and Del Potro but while the USO is being mentioned in the OP, it isn't specifically mentioned in the title of the thread. But I guess we're talking about either Sampras or Chang.

And of course, when the question needs clarification, the OP is nowhere to be found.
 
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newpball

Legend
Or at least it will be if one of the usual suspects wins USO this year.
Closest I can think of is Moya who was 24 when Safin won USO in 2000.

Did I overlook someone?
It is kind of peculiar isn't it?

I hope we will not find out 10 years from now that that was due to the fact that the top players had access to certain 'doctors' the young players could not afford.
 

Crisstti

Legend
I can't believe how dumb some of the posters in this thread are to not understand the question. Or maybe I can because it really explains the idiocy in this forum.

OP is surprised to learn that the youngest active slam champion is 24, which is very old in tennis terms. Yes, we are all aware that others have won slams at a younger age - that is the point of this thread you fools. I too wonder if we will ever have another teen slam champ, and when the younger generation will step up.
Lol, there's a lot on this forum that'd make you think how dumb many posters are, but not in this thread. The question really wasn't so clear. So get off your high horse for understanding something others might have missed...
 
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En même temps, le titre/premier post du sujet sont mal fichus.../The thread's title/OP are vague...

You'd think it's about "The youngest slam champion on Tour", but the OP mentions Moya... You could think it's about "The youngest slam champion ever", but then JMDP is out of question since some players won a slam while being much younger. You could also think it's about "The youngest USO champion" since the OP mentions Moya and Del Potro but while the USO is being mentioned in the OP, it isn't specifically mentioned in the title of the thread. But I guess we're talking about either Sampras or Chang.

And of course, when the question needs clarification, the OP is nowhere to be found.
What? The question isn't confusing in the slightest if you actually read it carefully. Not sure how the mention of Moya gets rid of your first guess considering the context he's used in, I've literally no idea how anyone could think this thread is about the youngest slam champion ever if they read the title, and the USO idea isn't even related to the topic.

There's no excusing the poor reading comprehension in this thread. 'Youngest grand slam champion being 25 - ever happened before?' very obviously translates to 'Has it ever happened before where the youngest grand slam champion on tour was 25?' That isn't hard to understand at all.

OT, it basically just goes to show you how overachieving this generation is and how underachieving the younger generation is. I wouldn't be surprised if the same crop of players remains in the top ten for another few years until they're around 30. Djokovic and Murray could very well be consistent slam winners in their thirties if the younger crop's results right now are anything to go by.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
I can't believe how dumb some of the posters in this thread are to not understand the question. Or maybe I can because it really explains the idiocy in this forum.

OP is surprised to learn that the youngest active slam champion is 24, which is very old in tennis terms. Yes, we are all aware that others have won slams at a younger age - that is the point of this thread you fools. I too wonder if we will ever have another teen slam champ, and when the younger generation will step up.
You are full or it -- or just full of yourself. The OP's intent was not clear at all.
 

BeHappy

Hall of Fame
You are full or it -- or just full of yourself. The OP's intent was not clear at all.
It's mostly non English posters who understood him. Maybe that sentence construction is how they speak translated literally so the syntax isn't so confusing and full of different possibilities to them.

It's very bad, unclear English though. If you got that from reading it the first time, then (paradoxically) your English probably needs work .
 

Crisstti

Legend
It's mostly non English posters who understood him. Maybe that sentence construction is how they speak translated literally so the syntax isn't so confusing and full of different possibilities to them.

It's very bad, unclear English though. If you got that from reading it the first time, then (paradoxically) your English probably needs work .
Guess my English is fine then, lol, didn't get it at all either.
 

Locotus

Hall of Fame
What? The question isn't confusing in the slightest if you actually read it carefully.
+1

'Youngest grand slam champion being 25 - ever happened before?' very obviously translates to 'Has it ever happened before where the youngest grand slam champion on tour was 25?'
Indeed. The questionmark suggests .... a question, not a statement. Throughly clearified by "Did I overlook someone?"
I mentioned USO because I assume no youngster will win that this year, making Del Potro 25 and still youngest champ - active or not.

And of course, when the question needs clarification, the OP is nowhere to be found.
Unfortunatly I don't camp this forum. I still appreciate all contribution from those who do though.

I just picked a year at random...... end of 1972
Pure randomness....

Still. If noone younger than Del Potro wins a slam until the end of 2015, which isn't that unlikely, we'll have a new record!
 

Magnetite

Professional
It's like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. If you get the rabbit you're extremely lucky.

Most of us will be grabbing at straws, and the one guy who gets lucky, and finds the rabbit, thinks he's the smartest man alive.
 

m2nk2

Hall of Fame
As I've mentioned before, Janowicz is the only man born in the 1990s who has reached a slam semi-final. Considering that now includes everyone aged up to 23, that's pretty shocking.
But is it because the youngsters are too bad or that the top 4 are too good?
 
But is it because the youngsters are too bad or that the top 4 are too good?
The top 4 are very strong and consistent, yes.

But it's not like positions 5-10 in the world are filled with youngsters who can't quite beat the top 4 but are ahead of everyone else. The guys reaching slam finals and semis outside the top 4 are the likes of Ferrer (aged 31), Tsonga (aged 27?), Berdych (aged 27?) and Delpo (about to turn 25). Even at this year's Wimbledon, where the draw fell apart, you had veterans like Verdasco and Kubot making the QF's, rather than youngsters.

Janowicz has reached one slam semi, his first at the age of almost 23. Tomic made one slam QF as a teenager. That's it for the post-1990 generation.

As I said, shocking.
 
^ Yes, Connors and Borg were the first 'modern' champions in 1974. This was when I consider the modern era to have begun (rather than 1968 ).
 

jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Has there ever been a point where the youngest active major winner was 24 besides now? That is the question. A valid one indeed. Further evidence of some sort of failure in development of talent on the mens tour.
Thanks for the clarification, I was confused
 

Cormorant

Professional
Del Potro is not twenty-five. If Janowicz or Tomic win in New York, we'll still have a current pro below that age.

And since slams went professional, we have had a situation where the youngest winner of a major was 25. At the end of 1968, Arthur Ashe was in his mid-twenties with a USO title to his name. No twentysomething players got a look in come 1969 as Laver hoovered up all the big events. There may have been some formerly amateur players who also held majors in Laver's era-from pre 1968-but we can exclude these because of the different circumstances.

When you get to the 1970 season, there's Jan Kodes-at 24-who becomes the youngest slam winner in the game. JMDP's the same age now, and he won his title much earlier in his career than the Czech did. The same situation recurs in 1971, only Stan Smith is the twenty-four-year-old slam chmapion and he turned twenty-five at the end of that season.

Borg changes everything in 1974 by winning at eighteen.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
It's mostly non English posters who understood him. Maybe that sentence construction is how they speak translated literally so the syntax isn't so confusing and full of different possibilities to them.

It's very bad, unclear English though. If you got that from reading it the first time, then (paradoxically) your English probably needs work .
Great insight, BH. Ironic that those who have the best command of the English language were most baffled by the intent of the question. Judging by the OP's response, he still does not acknowledge that his poorly constructed query created confusion.
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
Yes indeed Borg changed the perception of the game. Suddenly people expected teenagers to win grand slams. Of course the next one to do it would be Wilander in 1982, than Becker in '85, Chang in '89, Sampras in '90, Nadal in '05.

So when you consider only 6 men have won grand slams as teens in the 45 year old Open Era it's not the norm!
 

smoledman

G.O.A.T.
In fact in the last 8+ years only 2 teens have made a GS quarterfinal:

2005 FO - Nadal
2011 Wimbledon - Tomic
 
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