Your favorite city along the Gulf of Mexico?

[Better_Call_Raul]

By Executive Order it is now officially the "Gulf Of America".
The name is listed on Google Maps and Apple Maps for its American users.
Our favourite Hillary (the twice failed Presidential candidate) can laugh all she wants but that is the way it is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881395747012391149

Mexican President Considering Suing Google Over Gulf of America Name Change

Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum announced that she and her staff are considering suing Google for refusing to change the Gulf of America to the Gulf of Mexico. | Border / Cartel Chronicles

www.breitbart.com

Gulf of America Day, 2025

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION Today, I am very honored to recognize February 9, 2025, as the first ever Gulf of

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[Sir Weed]

$hithole country.

 

[Sudacafan]

If I were Mexico, I would definitely rename Baja California to something more enticing to tourism.

Mexico already renamed the Gulf of California to the Sea of Cortez, which I consider a missed opportunity to come up with something better.

Now I see that Southern California is a misconception, driven by thinking the California region only in US terms: Baja California is Southern California properly speaking.
Southern US California is Central California.
And who knows if Oregon and the state of Washington should be called Northern California.

 

[TTMR]

Ukraine had no nuclear missiles. They were the property of the USSR. The security guarantees given to Ukraine were on the condition it remained neutral.

From 2014 their policy was to join NATO, but yes Marco Rubio is your typical politician who changes his opinion depending on what will give him the most advancement.

Russia was also given the guarantee that NATO would not move east and yet under Clinton it did and under Biden the Russo-Ukrainian border was to become NATO's border.

I don't get you, bart. Ur a commie that defens right wing Putin Russia and attacks war police of ur fellow commie lyin Biden. U seem like not commie at all.

Wear u at?

 

[Sudacafan]

I don't get you, bart. Ur a commie that defens right wing Putin Russia and attacks war police of ur fellow commie lyin Biden. U seem like not commie at all.

Wear u at?

With your permission, I am jumping in here.

Any political stance that strays even slightly from the far-right ideology championed by the likes of Elon Musk and Trump (whose loyal backyard psycho puppet and cryptocurrencies swindler, Milei, famously brands them all as Comunistas de Mierda, for instance) is swiftly labelled as Communist — or affectionately, Commie.

If you’re starting to question this pattern, perhaps you’ve begun your journey of understanding.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Putin is entirely predictable and has clearly stated what he wants. The unpredictability is on the American side. Biden wanted to crush Russia and now Trump wants Ukraine's minerals.

I see you've changed your tune a bit on this (edited) post. IIRC, the previous incarnation of this appeared to dwell on how corrupt (& unpredictable) Ukraine was. Worse than Russia?

I don't know about the 90s but several sources indicated that Russia & Ukraine were equally corrupt -- both very poor -- from the turn of the century to 2016/17. Since that time, especially after 2019 (Zelenskyy elected), corruption in Ukraine has lessened while Russia has not. Ukraine is still perceived as more than moderately corrupt but it has improved since 2019.
.
The most notable source that serves as a corruption barometer is the Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) published by Transparency International. It may not be a perfect "measurement" but it still serves as a fairly decent barometer. Denmark has been listed as the least in recent years while Russia is near the bottom. Following are excerpts from the 2024 CPI list of 180 countries.

Rank--Country
001 .. Denmark
004 .. New Zealand
005 .. Switzerland
010 .. Australia
015 .. Canada
020 .. UK
028 .. USA
076 .. China
105 .. Ukraine
107 .. Brazil
154 .. Russia
170 .. North Korea

 

[Alcawrath]

With your permission, I am jumping in here.

Any political stance that strays even slightly from the far-right ideology championed by the likes of Elon Musk and Trump (whose loyal backyard psycho puppet and cryptocurrencies swindler, Milei, famously brands them all Comunistas de Mierda, for instance) is swiftly labelled as Communist — or affectionately, Commie.

If you’re starting to question this pattern, perhaps you’ve begun your journey of understanding.

Well said. Also, I still can't wrap my mind around far right Americans, who are supposedly 'freedom loving anti-communists', embracing a former KGB officer turned Russian dictator over a democratic nation fighting for it's survival as a free nation.

 

[travlerajm]

Now I see that Southern California is a misconception, driven by thinking the California region only in US terms: Baja California is Southern California properly speaking.
Southern US California is Central California.
And who knows if Oregon and the state of Washington should be called Northern California.

Given this epiphany, what restructured nomenclature do you propose for the full pacific coastline?

I’m realizing that I actually reside in southern British Columbia. Which could also be called southern northern Colombia.

 

[Sudacafan]

Given this epiphany, what restructured nomenclature do you propose for the full pacific coastline?

I’m realizing that I actually reside in southern British Columbia. Which could also be called southern northern Colombia.

Fine, but keep Columbia for your hometown and surroundings, and for the US capital district.
Just use Colombia for Spanish speaking regions, South of the Panama (for the moment named that way) Canal region, please.

 

[Sudacafan]

I see you've changed your tune a bit on this (edited) post. IIRC, the previous incarnation of this appeared to dwell on how corrupt (& unpredictable) Ukraine was. Worse than Russia?

I don't know about the 90s but several sources indicated that Russia & Ukraine were equally corrupt -- both very poor -- from the turn of the century to 2016/17. Since that time, especially after 2019 (Zelenskyy elected), corruption in Ukraine has lessened while Russia has not. Ukraine is still perceived as more than moderately corrupt but it has improved since 2019.
.
The most notable source that serves as a corruption barometer is the Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) published by Transparency International. It may not be a perfect "measurement" but it still serves as a fairly decent barometer. Denmark has been listed as the least in recent years while Russia is near the bottom. Following are excerpts from the 2024 CPI list of 180 countries.

Rank--Country
001 .. Denmark
004 .. New Zealand
005 .. Switzerland
010 .. Australia
015 .. Canada
020 .. UK
028 .. USA
076 .. China
105 .. Ukraine
107 .. Brazil
154 .. Russia
170 .. North Korea

So China is more transparent than Brazil.
And North Korea's opaqueness must be proverbial, you can't see anything through it.

 

[Sudacafan]

By Executive Order it is now officially the "Gulf Of America".
The name is listed on Google Maps and Apple Maps for its American users.
Our favourite Hillary (the twice failed Presidential candidate) can laugh all she wants but that is the way it is.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881395747012391149

Mexican President Considering Suing Google Over Gulf of America Name Change

Mexico’s President Claudia Sheinbaum announced that she and her staff are considering suing Google for refusing to change the Gulf of America to the Gulf of Mexico. | Border / Cartel Chronicles

www.breitbart.com

Gulf of America Day, 2025

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION Today, I am very honored to recognize February 9, 2025, as the first ever Gulf of

www.whitehouse.gov

Americans of America and the Americas must be so proud.
When will the new edition of the World Atlas of the National Geographic be issued?

 

[Sudacafan]

Well said. Also, I still can't wrap my mind around far right Americans, who are supposedly 'freedom loving anti-communists', embracing a former KGB officer turned Russian dictator over a democratic nation fighting for it's survival as a free nation.

Not so strange. Far right political stances have usually supported dictators. It depends on the dictator we are talking about.
Far left political stances support their own brand as well, but I believe their pervasineveness has declined a bit in the last decades. Or perhaps, they are graciously being kept alive just to sway people into the far right.

 

[travlerajm]

I don’t mean to interrupt the discussion, but anyone have a good up-to-date suggestion for a source where a moderate independent can go for online news?

 

[Sudacafan]

I don’t mean to interrupt the discussion, but anyone have a good up-to-date suggestion for a source where a moderate independent can go for online news?

No way, you must produce yourself your own news.

 

[TTMR]

I don’t mean to interrupt the discussion, but anyone have a good up-to-date suggestion for a source where a moderate independent can go for online news?

As a moderate independent as well, I utilize Breitbart, World Net Daily, Newsmax, OANN and other trustworthy sources. Stopped mainstream news when Dan Rather lied about Bush and Fox sould out 2020.

 

[travlerajm]

As a moderate independent as well, I utilize Breitbart, World Net Daily, Newsmax, OANN and other trustworthy sources. Stopped mainstream news when Dan Rather lied about Bush and Fox sould out 2020.

Thank you for your kind advice. I will check these out.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Well said. Also, I still can't wrap my mind around far right Americans, who are supposedly 'freedom loving anti-communists', embracing a former KGB officer turned Russian dictator over a democratic nation fighting for it's survival as a free nation.

Can’t wrap my mind around it either. The Orange Menace seems to be something of a modern day Svengali

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

So China is more transparent than Brazil.
And North Korea's opaqueness must be proverbial, you can't see anything through it.

Is there a direct relationship between transparency (opacity) and corruption?

 

[Sudacafan]

Is there a direct relationship between transparency (opacity) and corruption?

Should be.

 

[TTMR]

Thank you for your kind advice. I will check these out.

Please do and get back to us.

 

[Sudacafan]

Is there a direct relationship between transparency (opacity) and corruption?

You made me do the search, below is the answer:

Opacity is the quality of being not transparent, while opaqueness is the quality of being hard to see through or understand.

 

[Sudacafan]

I think it may be time to change the thread title to Gulf of America…
Only if the US and Mexico are planning to share this gulf with the rest of the Americas.

 

[fundrazer]

Thank you for your kind advice. I will check these out.

I dunno if he's trolling or not, but those are absolutely not "moderate independent" sources. OAN is full of right wing loonies and breitbart is too afaik.

Also.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

There has been a news blackout on Ukraine; no American media on the front lines.The American people have been funding this war and deserve to know what is happening on the front lines.

Our favourite Kremlin propagandist Bart claims that one million Ukraine soldiers have been KIA. One million Ukraine soldiers KIA?!

We believe the true figure is approximately 150,000 Ukraine soldiers KIA. That is still a devastating number. Zelly is struggling to conscript soldiers and the new soldiers being drafted are far less trained than the highly trained soldiers that have been KIA.

The war is now unwinnable.

We have written to Musk and Trump demanding that as a condition to aid, Zelensky be required to allow American media on the front lines to report on what is going on.

The American people deserve full transparency.

 

[Sudacafan]

The American people have been funding this war and deserve to know what is happening on the front lines.

If the American people are not informed about what’s happening on the front lines, I think they should ask for a refund.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

I think it may be time to change the thread title to Gulf of America…
Only if the US and Mexico are planning to share this gulf with the rest of the Americas.

Only the USA, mandated by you-know-who, officially refers to it as the Gulf of America. The rest of the world refers to it as Gulf of Mexico (or a variation of that, like Golfo de Mexico). There are a few countries or news agencies that refer to it as Gulf of Mexico or variant but add (Gulf of America), in parentheses, under the official non-US name

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Thank you for your kind advice. I will check these out.

@Sudacafan

None of those 4 listed sources are credible, factual or trustworthy. They are all extreme Right (Alt-Right) sources that have very low credibility. Likewise, extreme Left sources are not to be trusted either. I'd go even further and say that strong Left (less extreme) sources, like MSNBC, and strong Right sources, like Fox News are not particularly reliable / credible sources either -- even tho they are not quite as extreme.

The 4 sources he listed are much more extreme and considerably less factual than Fox News. Of those he listed, I was really only familiar with Breitbart and NewsMax -- both highly unreliable. You can check MB/FC and Ad Fontes for an evaluation of any of these sources.

Here are links for WND and OANN

World Net Daily (WND) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

One America News Network (OAN) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

WND Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates WND, a site that reports government waste, fraud and abuse, as hyper-partisan right in terms of bias and somewhat …

adfontesmedia.com

OAN Network Website Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates OAN Network, an independent, conservative news media company, as skews right in terms of bias and as mixed reliability in terms of …

adfontesmedia.com

Most of the sources that I look to are fairly neutral or have a MILD Left bias. One of the few, fairly reliable, trustworthy sources, with a Right (or Center-Right) bias is the Wall Street Journal. Another decent source that is fairly neutral, but sometimes leans slightly Right or Left, is The Hill. Another source on the Right that is much more credible & trustworthy than Fox News is Forbes.

The neutral (or near neutral) source that I trust most is the UK's Reuters. This is followed closely by France's AFP. And a close third is Associated Press (AP).

Other low or moderate-bias, highly factual sources include France 24 (TV & app), The Financial Times (UK), BBC, NPR (especially NPR News Now), and the PBS NewsHour

 

[Happi]

As a moderate independent as well.

You are the most extreme right wing MAGA idiot here. Moderate Independent my a**

 

[Sudacafan]

@Sudacafan

None of those 4 listed sources are credible, factual or trustworthy. They are all extreme Right (Alt-Right) sources that have very low credibility. Likewise, extreme Left sources are not to be trusted either. I'd go even further and say that strong Left (less extreme) sources, like MSNBC, and strong Right sources, like Fox News are not particularly reliable / credible sources either -- even tho they are not quite as extreme.

The 4 sources he listed are much more extreme and considerably less factual than Fox News. Of those he listed, I was really only familiar with Breitbart and NewsMax -- both highly unreliable. You can check MB/FC and Ad Fontes for an evaluation of any of these sources.

Here are links for WND and OANN

World Net Daily (WND) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

One America News Network (OAN) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

WND Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates WND, a site that reports government waste, fraud and abuse, as hyper-partisan right in terms of bias and somewhat …

adfontesmedia.com

OAN Network Website Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates OAN Network, an independent, conservative news media company, as skews right in terms of bias and as mixed reliability in terms of …

adfontesmedia.com

Most of the sources that I look to are fairly neutral or have a MILD Left bias. One of the few, fairly reliable, trustworthy sources, with a Right (or Center-Right) bias is the Wall Street Journal. Another decent source that is fairly neutral, but sometimes leans slightly Right or Left, is The Hill. Another source on the Right that is much more credible & trustworthy than Fox News is Forbes.

The neutral (or near neutral) source that I trust most is the UK's Reuters. This is followed closely by France's AFP. And a close third is Associated Press (AP).

Other low or moderate-bias, highly factual sources include France 24 (TV & app), The Financial Times (UK), BBC, NPR (especially NPR News Now), and the PBS NewsHour

Thanks for your research; however, I must point out that this is incredibly complex and confusing.

Given these challenging circumstances, I had no choice but to cultivate and produce my own data and information.

 

[Happi]

Thanks for your research; however, I must point out that this is incredibly complex and confusing.

Given these challenging circumstances, I had no choice but to cultivate and produce my own data and information.

Yes this is complex and confusing. Social media news is even worse.

The most trust worthy news media IMO is the one @SystemicAnomaly listed at the end of his post. We have some very trustworthy media in my country so I rely on news from them.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Ñ0

Yes this is complex and confusing. Social media news is even worse.

The most trust worthy news media IMO is the one @socallefty listed at the end of his post. We have some very trustworthy media in my country so I rely on news from them.

Missed it (couldn't find it either). What new media source did @socallefty list?

What country are You in?

 

[fritzhimself]

This is the stupidest person in the world!
Thanks to everyone who voted for this idiot!

 

[Happi]

Ñ0

Missed it (couldn't find it either). What new media source did @socallefty list?

What country are You in?

Sorry I ment you, will correct my post.

 

[Happi]

This is the stupidest person in the world!
Thanks to everyone who voted for this idiot!

Luckily it’s still Gulf of Mexico on google maps where I live.

 

[TTMR]

You are the most extreme right wing MAGA idiot here. Moderate Independent my a**

Their u hav it foalks. I'm consinly polite and RESPECTFUL and all ii get is insults frum opposers. Not fair!

 

[TTMR]

@Sudacafan

None of those 4 listed sources are credible, factual or trustworthy. They are all extreme Right (Alt-Right) sources that have very low credibility. Likewise, extreme Left sources are not to be trusted either. I'd go even further and say that strong Left (less extreme) sources, like MSNBC, and strong Right sources, like Fox News are not particularly reliable / credible sources either -- even tho they are not quite as extreme.

The 4 sources he listed are much more extreme and considerably less factual than Fox News. Of those he listed, I was really only familiar with Breitbart and NewsMax -- both highly unreliable. You can check MB/FC and Ad Fontes for an evaluation of any of these sources.

Here are links for WND and OANN

World Net Daily (WND) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

One America News Network (OAN) - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

WND Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates WND, a site that reports government waste, fraud and abuse, as hyper-partisan right in terms of bias and somewhat …

adfontesmedia.com

OAN Network Website Bias and Reliability | Ad Fontes Media

Ad Fontes Media rates OAN Network, an independent, conservative news media company, as skews right in terms of bias and as mixed reliability in terms of …

adfontesmedia.com

Most of the sources that I look to are fairly neutral or have a MILD Left bias. One of the few, fairly reliable, trustworthy sources, with a Right (or Center-Right) bias is the Wall Street Journal. Another decent source that is fairly neutral, but sometimes leans slightly Right or Left, is The Hill. Another source on the Right that is much more credible & trustworthy than Fox News is Forbes.

The neutral (or near neutral) source that I trust most is the UK's Reuters. This is followed closely by France's AFP. And a close third is Associated Press (AP).

Other low or moderate-bias, highly factual sources include France 24 (TV & app), The Financial Times (UK), BBC, NPR (especially NPR News Now), and the PBS NewsHour

You clame 2 watch neutral or moderate or unbias knews yet what's you're voting history o'er last decade?

I'm a regular'd independent at voting booth electrons office. Wut are u regulated as?

 

[Alcawrath]

@TTMR is, and has been, trolling for some time. From his story about abandoning his kids, to his wife leaving him, to his political takes on this thread (complete with egregious spelling and grammatical errors), he's simply trolling for kicks, so there's zero reason to engage.

 

[TTMR]

@TTMR is, and has been, trolling for some time. From his story about abandoning his kids, to his wife leaving him, to his political takes on this thread (complete with egregious spelling and grammatical errors), he's simply trolling for kicks, so there's zero reason to engage.

@TTMR has been in my IMO opinion one of the best posteurs here over last 16 years. No reason to dout his creditability.

 

[Alcawrath]

@TTMR has been in my IMO opinion one of the best posteurs here over last 16 years. No reason to dout his creditability.

Gotta admit, always entertaining

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

@TTMR has been in my IMO opinion one of the best posteurs here over last 16 years. No reason to dout his creditability.

TTMR, a legend… in his own mind!!

Claims to be a moderate independent yet the only sources he’s listed are ultra right-wing, highly questionable “news” entities who spit out a lot of conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated alternate facts. Where’s the balance? Where are the credible sources you speak of?

Sounds a whole lot like troll behavior. It certainly walks like a troll and quacks like one too.

 

[Airspun]

@TTMR is, and has been, trolling for some time. From his story about abandoning his kids, to his wife leaving him, to his political takes on this thread (complete with egregious spelling and grammatical errors), he's simply trolling for kicks, so there's zero reason to engage.

it's fun to troll the maga trolls back, they are so insecure even though their dictator "won"

 

[TTMR]

TTMR, a legend… in his own mind!!

Claims to be a moderate independent yet the only sources he’s listed are ultra right-wing, highly questionable “news” entities who spit out a lot of conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated alternate facts. Where’s the balance? Where are the credible sources you speak of?

Sounds a whole lot like troll behavior. It certainly walks like a troll and quacks like one too.

Okay dokie, u list a brunch of "moderant" knews sourses like Reeters, AP, AFD (thot they were rite wing germany party?), but wuts your voating history like? We kno ur a californian, whats ur voting regulation? if u voted dem for last 30 years ur not a moderate indy despite you're suppsd moderant knews sources. My voat regulation is indy despite my "ultra right" knews sursces ackording to u. wouldnt i be regulated republican and hard rite voter all my life if wut u say is tru? let me list my prez voat patterns over life time cuz those ones i can remember not gov, sen, dogcatcher, clown, etc.

1956 (1st time i could vote): Adlai Stevenson
1960: Didn't vote, incarserated
1964: LBJ (vary left wing president)
1968: Didn't vote, busy abroad
1972: Noxon (centrist rockfeller republican)
1976: Carter (ya i admit it)
1980: Regan (ya con repub but most dems even voat for him)
1984: Regan (even more dems voat for him than last time)
1988: Dukakis (looked like trustworthy knews ankor unlike reptile bush sr)
1992: Perreault
1996: Clinton (great economie + tuff on crime)
2000: Bukanin (Gor looked like an droid, Bush like half-reptile from dad half)
2004: Bush (9/11)
2008: Obama (rent income tanked due to house bbbl collapse + obama didnt seem like left wingnut yet)
2012: Romney (RINO so u cant say i'm ultra rite if i voted for a rino)
2016: Clinton (wanted great 90 economie back, cruze semed betr than trump at tine in primarie)
2020: Trump
2024: Trump

That's countem 7 Dems, 7 Reps, 2 Indies, and 2 non-votes. Defnition of moderant indypendant right there pic of me should be in dicktionary under that word.

 

[travlerajm]

Okay dokie, u list a brunch of "moderant" knews sourses like Reeters, AP, AFD (thot they were rite wing germany party?), but wuts your voating history like? We kno ur a californian, whats ur voting regulation? if u voted dem for last 30 years ur not a moderate indy despite you're suppsd moderant knews sources. My voat regulation is indy despite my "ultra right" knews sursces ackording to u. wouldnt i be regulated republican and hard rite voter all my life if wut u say is tru? let me list my prez voat patterns over life time cuz those ones i can remember not gov, sen, dogcatcher, clown, etc.

1956 (1st time i could vote): Adlai Stevenson
1960: Didn't vote, incarserated
1964: LBJ (vary left wing president)
1968: Didn't vote, busy abroad
1972: Noxon (centrist rockfeller republican)
1976: Carter (ya i admit it)
1980: Regan (ya con repub but most dems even voat for him)
1984: Regan (even more dems voat for him than last time)
1988: Dukakis (looked like trustworthy knews ankor unlike reptile bush sr)
1992: Perreault
1996: Clinton (great economie + tuff on crime)
2000: Bukanin (Gor looked like an droid, Bush like half-reptile from dad half)
2004: Bush (9/11)
2008: Obama (rent income tanked due to house bbbl collapse + obama didnt seem like left wingnut yet)
2012: Romney (RINO so u cant say i'm ultra rite if i voted for a rino)
2016: Clinton (wanted great 90 economie back, cruze semed betr than trump at tine in primarie)
2020: Trump
2024: Trump

That's countem 7 Dems, 7 Reps, 2 Indies, and 2 non-votes. Defnition of moderant indypendant right there pic of me should be in dicktionary under that word.

It’s a well documented phenomenon that men tend to start wide-eyed and liberal and then gradually tilt more conservative in their political views with advancing age.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

This is the stupidest person in the world!
Thanks to everyone who voted for this idiot!

What is your guy doing here?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898645431351206270

 

[travlerajm]

What is your guy doing here?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1898645431351206270

I think that when you reach a certain age, you can get away with stuff like this by blaming it on weaker arm strength. The gravity-made-me-do-it defense becomes plausible.

 

[TTMR]

It’s a well documented phenomenon that men tend to start wide-eyed and liberal and then gradually tilt more conservative in their political views with advancing age.

That's why i consider my self moderant indy pendant. Used be wid eyed lefty now soft lib butt think modular inde pendant like you fits bill

 

[Happi]

@TTMR is, and has been, trolling for some time. From his story about abandoning his kids, to his wife leaving him, to his political takes on this thread (complete with egregious spelling and grammatical errors), he's simply trolling for kicks, so there's zero reason to engage.

Silly me, being trolled by a guy who is 87.

Thanks @Alcawrath

 

[Happi]

Okay dokie, u list a brunch of "moderant" knews sourses like Reeters, AP, AFD (thot they were rite wing germany party?), but wuts your voating history like? We kno ur a californian, whats ur voting regulation? if u voted dem for last 30 years ur not a moderate indy despite you're suppsd moderant knews sources. My voat regulation is indy despite my "ultra right" knews sursces ackording to u. wouldnt i be regulated republican and hard rite voter all my life if wut u say is tru? let me list my prez voat patterns over life time cuz those ones i can remember not gov, sen, dogcatcher, clown, etc.

1956 (1st time i could vote): Adlai Stevenson
1960: Didn't vote, incarserated
1964: LBJ (vary left wing president)
1968: Didn't vote, busy abroad
1972: Noxon (centrist rockfeller republican)
1976: Carter (ya i admit it)
1980: Regan (ya con repub but most dems even voat for him)
1984: Regan (even more dems voat for him than last time)
1988: Dukakis (looked like trustworthy knews ankor unlike reptile bush sr)
1992: Perreault
1996: Clinton (great economie + tuff on crime)
2000: Bukanin (Gor looked like an droid, Bush like half-reptile from dad half)
2004: Bush (9/11)
2008: Obama (rent income tanked due to house bbbl collapse + obama didnt seem like left wingnut yet)
2012: Romney (RINO so u cant say i'm ultra rite if i voted for a rino)
2016: Clinton (wanted great 90 economie back, cruze semed betr than trump at tine in primarie)
2020: Trump
2024: Trump

That's countem 7 Dems, 7 Reps, 2 Indies, and 2 non-votes. Defnition of moderant indypendant right there pic of me should be in dicktionary under that word.

If you voted in 1956 U R 87 by now and write like a teenager…….

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

I think that when you reach a certain age, you can get away with stuff like this by blaming it on weaker arm strength. The gravity-made-me-do-it defense becomes plausible.

To your eye, did she appear to object to the boundary crossing, that seems to have prompted the subsequent gathering and exchange?
Or is this all a nothing burger?

 

[travlerajm]

To your eye, did she appear to object to the boundary crossing, which seems to have prompted the subsequent exchange?
Or is this all a nothing burger?

With advanced age, one also develops more reliable sixth sense for when such advances might be appreciated.