Your favorite natural gut hybrid?

Just wondering what your guys favorite hybrid of natural gut and some other string is? Please give string tensions and the setup of the mains and crosses, and let me know why its your favorite setup.
 
What im really looking to do is hybrid Luxilon ALU Power @ 58 in the mains and Head Natural Gut 16 @ 56 in the crosses. I think itll give me the best durability-to-playability possible, unless someone else thinks otherwise?
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
Current favorite:

VS TEAM 17 mains (60-58 lbs)/Alu Power crosses(57-55 lbs)

Testing VS TEAM 17 mains with both RPM Blast 17 crosses and BlackCode 18 crosses.

Will also test BlackCode 17 crosses....soon.

Can't comment on tension as I play 2 different sets of 4 racquets and also change tension from winter to summer.
 
VS TEAM 17 mains (60-58 lbs)/Alu Power crosses(57-55 lbs)

Testing VS TEAM 17 mains with both RPM Blast 17 crosses and BlackCode 18 crosses.

Will also test BlackCode 17 crosses....soon.
Why always VS TEAM in mains, that much of a difference in playability than in the crosses? What durability?
 
I like Pacific X Force 18 in the crosses. I'm not normally a poly user, but this stuff has not hurt my arm, and the sound the ball makes coming off the stringbed is phenominal. I get lots of feel, and the power level makes it easy to gauge the depth of my shots.
 

ryangoring

Professional
I have only played with one type and only on time, but Global gut at 60 on mains and Wilson extreme at 61 on crosses!!
BUTTA BABY!!!
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
Why always VS TEAM in mains, that much of a difference in playability than in the crosses? What durability?
Because I'm a feel all court player, and I prefer nat gut mains and the best nat gut in the world for my game is VS Team 17.

But I'm in fact about to test RPM Blast 17 mains and VS Team 17 crosses as we speak, but I usually return to nat gut mains.

Fed and Djokster, Sampras and Mac and Lendl as well prefer nat gut mains and poly crosses.

Players like Murray & Cilic prefer poly mains and nat gut crosses. Do you wonder why ;)

I get anything from 10-12 hours durability.

With nat gut mains I don't feel the poly dies, with poly mains I do feel the poly dies pretty fast - 6-8 hours.
 

Centered

Hall of Fame
Has anyone tried zyex crosses? It's supposed to have a lot of string movement, but I assume there would be less if it's used with gut mains.
 

Gene1994

Rookie
Because I'm a feel all court player, and I prefer nat gut mains and the best nat gut in the world for my game is VS Team 17.

But I'm in fact about to test RPM Blast 17 mains and VS Team 17 crosses as we speak, but I usually return to nat gut mains.

Fed and Djokster, Sampras and Mac and Lendl as well prefer nat gut mains and poly crosses.

Players like Murray & Cilic prefer poly mains and nat gut crosses. Do you wonder why ;)

I get anything from 10-12 hours durability.

With nat gut mains I don't feel the poly dies, with poly mains I do feel the poly dies pretty fast - 6-8 hours.
Cilic = Gut mains
 

downdaline

Professional
See my sig.

I would've used VS Touch 16 if only my fav stringer stocked it. But he only stocks "the best" as he says, so im kinda stuck with VS Team. Not that im complaining. It's still a remarkable string.

I tried Gut/Lux TiMo once, and it felt different, MUCH more different frm Alu Power.
 

sidzej

Rookie
After many different nat gut hybrid setups, I have finally ended up using nat gut in mains (VS or Tonic) with WC Silvestring in crosses (thanks to ClubHoUno for recommending Silvestring).
It suits my game very well and durability is also very good. I get easily more than 12-14 hours out of it. I really like this setup.
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
See my sig.

I would've used VS Touch 16 if only my fav stringer stocked it. But he only stocks "the best" as he says, so im kinda stuck with VS Team. Not that im complaining. It's still a remarkable string.

I tried Gut/Lux TiMo once, and it felt different, MUCH more different frm Alu Power.
VS Team 17 IS THE BEST !!!

Your stringer is correct - VS Team is thinner than VS Touch and has more power, feel and explosivity.

Fed only use VS Touch for extra durability and control.

VS Team is the best nat gut on the planet, but not as durable as VS Touch.
 

brownbearfalling

Hall of Fame
Synthetic gut mains and gut crosses

Usually gosen og 17g white and Global gut crosses. 49/53 lbs

Ideally Psgd 17 mains and vs gut 17g crosses 49/53 lbs
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
After many different nat gut hybrid setups, I have finally ended up using nat gut in mains (VS or Tonic) with WC Silvestring in crosses (thanks to ClubHoUno for recommending Silvestring).
It suits my game very well and durability is also very good. I get easily more than 12-14 hours out of it. I really like this setup.
Your're welcome :)

I still use a reel of Silverstring, and it's an excellent soft and crisp poly.
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
Fed uses Wilson Natural 16, because he's paid to and he only needs it to last 8-10 games.

. . . Bud
Hello !

Wilson nat gut is made by............ Babolat !

The durability issue is only important for Fed because he needs his strings to last 8 games and he could very well break 17 gauge nat gut before that, which is why he uses 16 nat gut gauge and also because 17 gauge nat gut probably is a bit too powerful and lively for him :)
 

Kot_Bigemot

Professional
Hello !

Wilson nat gut is made by............ Babolat !

The durability issue is only important for Fed because he needs his strings to last 8 games and he could very well break 17 gauge nat gut before that, which is why he uses 16 nat gut gauge and also because 17 gauge nat gut probably is a bit too powerful and lively for him :)
I use both but, for some reason i find Wilson gut to last longer. Even though it is made by Babolat. It may be just my imagination.
As for playing characteristics. They are about the same to me.
I use full gut setup. Tried different hybrids - did not do much for me. I am just too used to full gut. Great feel, fantastic power and actually in a long run gut lasts longer than any multi.
My $0.02.
 

jrod

Hall of Fame
...But I'm in fact about to test RPM Blast 17 mains and VS Team 17 crosses as we speak, but I usually return to nat gut mains.
This will make for an interesting combo, but I bet you come back to gut mains too. When I hit with a full set of RPM I was surprised at how soft it was and it had reasonable feel for a co-poly.

With nat gut mains I don't feel the poly dies, with poly mains I do feel the poly dies pretty fast - 6-8 hours.
There is definitely some masking going on with gut mains. Still, with Lux crosses I can feel it die more quickly than with a quality co-poly like Weisscannon Silverstring. I can easily get 20 hours of play out of a frame before it's time to change. Strings not returning to their original position is a clear indicator, as well as a subtle loss of feel.
 

bsandy

Hall of Fame
Hello !

Wilson nat gut is made by............ Babolat !
Yes . . . I was not disputing that.

The durability issue is only important for Fed because he needs his strings to last 8 games and he could very well break 17 gauge nat gut before that, which is why he uses 16 nat gut gauge and also because 17 gauge nat gut probably is a bit too powerful and lively for him :)
This however I believe this is filled with speculation. Do you have a reference?
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
Yes . . . I was not disputing that.



This however I believe this is filled with speculation. Do you have a reference?
No No No - I have this from a direct source !!!

Fed called me 4-5 weeks ago and we discussed his nat gut - Lux setup in detail. So this info is directly taken from the source, Fed himself ;)

Just kidding of course. Of course all of it is mere speculation, but seems very logical and hard to find other reasons in my humble view :)

We know Fed changes racquets 1 game prior to when he has to serve with new balls, and we know Fed uses 9 stringsavers in the top bed of all his racquets, so he must be anxious about durability of the strings and a mishit smash or serve could break his string prior to when he has planned to change racquet, and 17 gauge nat gut is more lively in feel, less durable and has more power.
 

bsandy

Hall of Fame
^^

Remember . . .

Durability isn't just about breakage. The Lux he uses in the crosses can loosen up very quickly.

. . . And I thought it was 10 string savers.

. . . Bud
 

ClubHoUno

Banned
^^

Remember . . .

Durability isn't just about breakage. The Lux he uses in the crosses can loosen up very quickly.

. . . And I thought it was 10 string savers.

. . . Bud
Sorry, it's 9 string savers, and they are made by........Babolat too ;)
 

kiteboard

Banned
Because I'm a feel all court player, and I prefer nat gut mains and the best nat gut in the world for my game is VS Team 17.

But I'm in fact about to test RPM Blast 17 mains and VS Team 17 crosses as we speak, but I usually return to nat gut mains.

Fed and Djokster, Sampras and Mac and Lendl as well prefer nat gut mains and poly crosses.

Players like Murray & Cilic prefer poly mains and nat gut crosses. Do you wonder why ;)

I get anything from 10-12 hours durability.

With nat gut mains I don't feel the poly dies, with poly mains I do feel the poly dies pretty fast - 6-8 hours.
Haas, Hewitt, Cilic goes back and forth, Roddick uses vs in the crosses, etc. LIsten to this guy. The gut mains don't die in tension loss as quickly as the poly. You can restring the crosses, leave the mains, but not the other way around! (Stress the hoop.) When you try the rpm blast in the mains, it will feel soft, yet, spongy. The texture wears off quickly, so the extra spin will last only 1/2 hr or so. Then, the vs team 17g crosses, will be wasted. Vs team 17g/blackcode 18g I haven't tried yet, but will soon. With the bc in the cross at 17g, the playability is great for about 1hr. Now I see why the pros change sticks so fast! I have not found a hybrid with more control under pressure yet, and I've tried lots of them. The vs team 17g is the best main I've tried for control. Good spin too, if you are hitting for spin. It has to be strung right. I use a power pad on the sides, last main before diving into the throat. Sweet power, sweet control, and soft on your arm, good spin, the best of all worlds except for your wallet world!

babolat, if you are listening, I am avail. for string sponsorship, at half cost. I have already written a mention for your string in an article. Thinking about starting up a string testing web site, with video testing, and real time pro on hand for string questions, side by side analysis with same sticks, diff. string set ups, on video, so you can see for yourselves what the diff is.
 
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kayak999

New User
Past five string setups for a flat hitter. 18x20 racquet.
Klip gut (17g) mains and X-One Biphase 18 gauge in crosses. Mains strung 3 pounds higher than crosses.
Avoiding Poly like the plague as I hate a sore elbow. Any really super soft poly's that would do well with a gut main?
 

GetBetterer

Hall of Fame
Wilson's Natural Gut (the animal was slaughtered in front of me :D)

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Luxilon's Big Banger ALU (you don't lose all of the feel for just solely power, very good string)

26 kg
 
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