asianoutcast87
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Title says it all. What is the difference between the two? Is there even any difference? Or did they just do a paint job and alter it a little?
Quite different, in my opinion. YouTek line seems stiffer across the board, in general, although I think they're more comparable for slower swings. The specs are different across the board as well, but from my experience the YT MP's weight felt centered in the throat/top of handle much more than the MG MP. I also feel the YTPP's swingweight is superior to the MGPP.
I think it is, but I don't think it's as extreme as some people find it to be. Not sure if it's actually the d3o at work, but it seems stiffer the faster you swing. I think a good multi or gut would help a lot as well. I'm going to be put a multi in one of mine shortly.I spoke to a well known racquet customizer in NYC regarding switching from the Youtek Rad to the Youtek Prestige MP. He felt that the Youtek Prestige line was stiffer than past versions of the line.
I think it is, but I don't think it's as extreme as some people find it to be. Not sure if it's actually the d3o at work, but it seems stiffer the faster you swing. I think a good multi or gut would help a lot as well. I'm going to be put a multi in one of mine shortly.
Being a user of the MGPP for some time now and having tried out the YT pretty extensively I have to say that IMO the MG is much better then the YT. The MG feels more solid and seems to be less hollow feeling at ball impact. Also I find the MG to have a better combination of power and control.
Ahhhhh, then screw it. I'll just get the Pure storm. I actually really liked how the MG feels like but the thing is, I really don't think I'm good enough to use it. Yes, I can actually recognize what I do wrong and don't, not just some idiot like some people posting threads btw.
Ok back to the topic
I tested the MG for 4 hours straight, and I have to say it felt nice. I found some new angles and was hitting very consistently. But there was one big problem. When somebody hits a ball without much power, I couldn't return it with much power. Only when the opponent hits it with power is when I was able to hit it back equally as well as him. I've got to say that it felt magnificent hitting hard shots. It had control, consistency, and power. But just those soft balls screwed this racquet up for me.Does this happen with the YouTEK? Because I'm trying to choose a racquet right now and its either the youtek or the pure storm. Pure storm has a tad too much power. I just wanted to see if the MG and youtek were alike so I could compare them vs pure storm.
I've been thinking about possible switching to either the YOUTEK Prestige-MP or the Microgel Prestige-MP. It seems the general consensus here is that the YOUTEK is definitely stiffer than the Microgel. Is that correct??
Being a user of the MGPP for some time now and having tried out the YT pretty extensively I have to say that IMO the MG is much better then the YT. The MG feels more solid and seems to be less hollow feeling at ball impact. Also I find the MG to have a better combination of power and control.
I agree. I'm very skeptical of the d30 (not as a substance - it's actually super cool to see and feel it in action by itself - only as one of the materials in a mostly-graphite frame) being able to do what they purport for the frame, but I have to admit that my frames do seem to stiffen more the faster I swing. I preferred the YouTeks over the MGs I demoed in terms of feel. I've just dropped one of my YTPPs off at the stringer to put in a multi (Multi-Feel 16) after years as a full poly man, so this might be a wise experiment for anyone that thinks the YTs are too stiff.I tried both and I liked the youtek. The MG felt very flexy and more powerful. Along with the additional weight.
The youtek technology felt like it worked. When I swung harder I felt the racquet stiffen which I like. You still get nice feel and more control.
Based on responses to my thread on elbow soreness using the Youtek Prestige MP demo w/ Sonic, I am going to buy the Youtek version and put in VS.
The Microgel line just feels numb and underpowered.
Funny you should say that, because "numb" is exactly the term I always use when I've hit with my buddy's MGs. It's tough to describe, but my FXPs felt flexy, but in a good way. Maybe the the hoop flexing at the flexpoints? Who knows? But the MGs don't feel flexy to me or soft or plush or any of the terms I associate with really flexible frames, which I often like a lot. I like the feel of a flexible frame grabbing and sling-shotting the ball. But the MGs didn't feel like they did that. It felt like the frame absorbed the energy of the ball and that energy simply disappeared without transferring into the shot. I'm probably not explaining it well, but I much prefer the crisp feel of the YouTeks even if some would consider them too stiff.
YTPM VS MGPM
Which has more power? I believe the specs are pretty much the same, so the weight/balance/swing would be the same as well.
Currently love my MGPM - sweetest balance on a racket ever. But I sometimes wish for a little bit more power.
Obviously it's a personal thing, but for me the YouTeks are superior in both power and feel.Anyone agree the Microgel has more control than the YT?
I agree. I'm very skeptical of the d30 (not as a substance - it's actually super cool to see and feel it in action by itself - only as one of the materials in a mostly-graphite frame) being able to do what they purport for the frame, but I have to admit that my frames do seem to stiffen more the faster I swing.
I suspect that Head didn't just put the stuff in without testing to see, at the very least, if it would make the frame unusable. d3o is real. You can actually play with a sample of it in a lot of shops, and I read about it in Wired magazine years ago. It seems like science fiction but it isn't. I believe I read that there's a layer of d3o surrounded by graphite and possibly some other traditional racquet materials. I just don't know how much the d3o contributes to the functionality of the frame if it's surrounded by graphite. But I've played tennis long enough and at a high enough level with enough different frames to attest that these racquets do seem to change in stiffness depending on the speed of the respective swing. It's not a wildly high degree of variance, but it's noticeable to me. Maybe that's the d3o? Maybe not. But I demoed the YouTek Prestiges (MP and Pro) and YouTek Radical Pro, along with a Pure Storm Tour frame and my old FXPs, and there is no question in my mind that all three of the YouTeks seemed to vary in stiffness far more than any of the other frames.I agree- I'm skeptical as well. With the d3o in there, there must be a very little amount in order for the racket to be, well, solid at room temperature and sea level pressure, right? And how do we know the d3o isn't so sensitive that it just stiffens at every single impact? Or maybe it's so insensitive that the amount of impact force it takes to make the stuff stiffen is too great for the average human to produce? Anyone get what I mean? Still, many reviews say they can feel it. Placebo effect?
Sorry for being so skeptical- I have a thing against bogus technologieslol
Because here's the thing:
I had two Microgel Prestiges. Then I sold one and with some additional money bought a Youtek Prestige. My next step would be to sell my last Microgel, and add more money to finally get two of the Youteks. Even though I don't mind spending extra money to upgrade to a better racket, I honestly don't know if I like the Youtek better, as much as I want to like it. Therefore, my decision lies on which has better control, since I generate a large amount of power. Additional opinions on control level of both MP versions would be greatly appreciated.
I suspect that Head didn't just put the stuff in without testing to see, at the very least, if it would make the frame unusable. d3o is real. You can actually play with a sample of it in a lot of shops, and I read about it in Wired magazine years ago. It seems like science fiction but it isn't. I believe I read that there's a layer of d3o surrounded by graphite and possibly some other traditional racquet materials. I just don't know how much the d3o contributes to the functionality of the frame if it's surrounded by graphite. But I've played tennis long enough and at a high enough level with enough different frames to attest that these racquets do seem to change in stiffness depending on the speed of the respective swing. It's not a wildly high degree of variance, but it's noticeable to me. Maybe that's the d3o? Maybe not. But I demoed the YouTek Prestiges (MP and Pro) and YouTek Radical Pro, along with a Pure Storm Tour frame and my old FXPs, and there is no question in my mind that all three of the YouTeks seemed to vary in stiffness far more than any of the other frames.
I think any undesired vibration in the YouTeks can be more than offset by either a multi or gut rather than a poly or at least full poly setup, and/or lower tensions. Where I really notice the change in stiffness with my YTPPs is with controlled slices, blocked balls and lobs, more than the far end of the spectrum with dropshots. I was in a drilling session last night and I was able to beat so many guys by just controlling the placement of the ball better, and I find it much easier to do that with my new frame than I ever did with my FXPs. And I was able to lob back overheads much more effectively as well, and it's gotta be the d3o that is making the frame play like a much more flexible frame on these kinds of shots.agreed. its not a huge difference, but it can be felt when you go from hitting a hard shot to a soft one...its there and I feel it too. I like this new model quite a bit. i liked the MGPMP too, but this has a little more feel and I like the stiffness, but its not still like a Babolat. really a great stick. no vibration at all (feel bad for those that have this issue, must be something wrong and I would send racquet back..there should be literally no "vibrations" coming from typically hit shots. I got two matched pairs and I really like them.
I think any undesired vibration in the YouTeks can be more than offset by either a multi or gut rather than a poly or at least full poly setup, and/or lower tensions. Where I really notice the change in stiffness with my YTPPs is with controlled slices, blocked balls and lobs, more than the far end of the spectrum with dropshots. I was in a drilling session last night and I was able to beat so many guys by just controlling the placement of the ball better, and I find it much easier to do that with my new frame than I ever did with my FXPs. And I was able to lob back overheads much more effectively as well, and it's gotta be the d3o that is making the frame play like a much more flexible frame on these kinds of shots.
I've been thinking about possible switching to either the YOUTEK Prestige-MP or the Microgel Prestige-MP. It seems the general consensus here is that the YOUTEK is definitely stiffer than the Microgel. Is that correct??
Are there any differences in the way they swing ? More specifically, which one swings easier ?
The YT plays crisp and a bit stiffer in the upper hoop, probably because of the graphite weaving. They swing about the same, but play differently. I suggest demoing both at the same time with the same strings/tension. Feel-wise, I guess you can say Microgel to YouTek is nCode to kFactor.