YT Prestige Pro vs IG Speed 16x19

[JackB1]

Has anyone compared these 2 racquets? They seem identical in almost every respect except for gripshape. Is it possible it's the same frame underneath the paintjob? If you have compared these 2, which did you prefer and why?


YT Prestige Pro
11.8 oz
6 HL
320 sw
66 stiff
21 mm

IG Speed 16x19
11.6 oz
6 HL
320 sw
65 stiff
21 mm

 

[weksa]

Besides grip shape, they do sport a different head size: YTPP 98si (which is supposedly closer to 95), IG Speed 16x19 100si. And the layup probably gives a different feel.

I think I've read in other threads that the Speed is between the Prestige and Radical -- someone correct me if I'm mixing it up with another Head racquet.

 

[eidolonshinobi]

Demoed both and liked the speed better. It was easier to swing imo, and I like a racquet that's not relatively stiff.

I also found that I was able to utilize more spin with the speed than the YTPP

 

[Fed Kennedy]

the speed has a bigger head, a more open string pattern and is longer in length. it is more forgiving than the prestige with easier access to depth. also, I think you will find it quite a bit lighter. TW stats on the prestige are a little fishy: it's 12oz strung.

 

[JackB1]

the speed has a bigger head, a more open string pattern and is longer in length. it is more forgiving than the prestige with easier access to depth. also, I think you will find it quite a bit lighter. TW stats on the prestige are a little fishy: it's 12oz strung.

thanks for that tip!

 

[el sergento]

the speed has a bigger head, a more open string pattern and is longer in length. it is more forgiving than the prestige with easier access to depth. also, I think you will find it quite a bit lighter. TW stats on the prestige are a little fishy: it's 12oz strung.

Actually mine came in at 332 grams or 11.7 strung. Also, the SW of the Prestige is lower than the TW rating. Mine had a SW of 311. This mimics my experience with the YT Prestige MP, although rated at 320, mine had a SW of 305.

I actually don't mind the low SW, it allows me to customize to my hearts content.

I'l also mention that the Prestiges are rated at 310-315 SW on many other competitors websites.

 

[Power Player]

El, you are correct..the only prestige with swingweight over 315 is the mid and it is between 317-320. The Mp's is very low as well. Was it too low for you?

 

[Fed Kennedy]

Dang that's light...are we talking pro or mp version? My pro is claiming 11.5 unstrung on the frame which would generally mean 12 strung...anyway it's about the weight of a damp and OG. I guess to the OP...there are light prestiges out there for the taking.

 

[Ross K]

the speed has a bigger head, a more open string pattern and is longer in length. it is more forgiving than the prestige with easier access to depth. also, I think you will find it quite a bit lighter. TW stats on the prestige are a little fishy: it's 12oz strung.

Stop it Fed, you know you're making it sound rather too interesting to me!



R

 

[el sergento]

El, you are correct..the only prestige with swingweight over 315 is the mid and it is between 317-320. The Mp's is very low as well. Was it too low for you?

Yes, it was too low for me. At the same time, despite the low SW, I still found good pop.

Because of the low SW I started a thread about how the MP is the perfect platform for customization. So far, it's playing like a dream with 5 grams at 1.5&10.5 and 2.5 grams at 12. New SW is ~320 and the maneuverability and whippyness are fantastic. I counterweighted in the handle to keep a 7pt hl balance.

Now I'm torn though because I got my YT PPro playing like a dream also. That one needed much less modding, only 3 grams at 1.5&10.5 and counterweighting for a 6 pt hl balance, SW ~320.

I still haven't settled. The MP is superior at net and I'm partial to a closed pattern but the PPro is a champ from the baseline (especially on the ohbh) and I can generate great top while maintaining good depth.

 

[Fed Kennedy]

El- I have an almost identical setup on my ytpp. I agree on the ohbh. Heading off to play...

 

[Power Player]

Yes, it was too low for me. At the same time, despite the low SW, I still found good pop.

Because of the low SW I started a thread about how the MP is the perfect platform for customization. So far, it's playing like a dream with 5 grams at 1.5&10.5 and 2.5 grams at 12. New SW is ~320 and the maneuverability and whippyness are fantastic. I counterweighted in the handle to keep a 7pt hl balance.

Now I'm torn though because I got my YT PPro playing like a dream also. That one needed much less modding, only 3 grams at 1.5&10.5 and counterweighting for a 6 pt hl balance, SW ~320.

I still haven't settled. The MP is superior at net and I'm partial to a closed pattern but the PPro is a champ from the baseline (especially on the ohbh) and I can generate great top while maintaining good depth.

I am real interested in your issue, so please keep posting.

Mine is more about the TGK mid versus the MP. The TGK mid I have is 11.9 and hits super hard. I could not switch as smoothly between the retail prestige and the TGK since there was a balance and weight difference that took a little adjusting. I also realized that I loved the Prestige right around 12-12.3 ozs (which is the weight of the pc600 I have).

So I am thinking I will try the mp out since it comes light ,and if it works out I do not have to track down another TGK and spend $300. My plan is to just add 4 grams to 12 o clock, which should bring the SW to around 317. How much the balance will be affected is my main question..but an overgrip weighs 4-5 grams, so it may be fine.

 

[el sergento]

I am real interested in your issue, so please keep posting.

Mine is more about the TGK mid versus the MP. The TGK mid I have is 11.9 and hits super hard. I could not switch as smoothly between the retail prestige and the TGK since there was a balance and weight difference that took a little adjusting. I also realized that I loved the Prestige right around 12-12.3 ozs (which is the weight of the pc600 I have).

So I am thinking I will try the mp out since it comes light ,and if it works out I do not have to track down another TGK and spend $300. My plan is to just add 4 grams to 12 o clock, which should bring the SW to around 317. How much the balance will be affected is my main question..but an overgrip weighs 4-5 grams, so it may be fine.

Balance is a non issue since IME, an OG adds about a full balance point HL. I suggest you get the lightest MP you can find and just build it up. Honestly, with such a low SW you have so many options, it's probably as close to a TGK as you can find without spending the $.

Good luck

 

[retlod]

the speed has a bigger head, a more open string pattern and is longer in length. it is more forgiving than the prestige with easier access to depth. also, I think you will find it quite a bit lighter.

This is right on the money.

 

[Ross K]

Yes, it was too low for me. At the same time, despite the low SW, I still found good pop.

Because of the low SW I started a thread about how the MP is the perfect platform for customization. So far, it's playing like a dream with 5 grams at 1.5&10.5 and 2.5 grams at 12. New SW is ~320 and the maneuverability and whippyness are fantastic. I counterweighted in the handle to keep a 7pt hl balance.

Now I'm torn though because I got my YT PPro playing like a dream also. That one needed much less modding, only 3 grams at 1.5&10.5 and counterweighting for a 6 pt hl balance, SW ~320.

I still haven't settled. The MP is superior at net and I'm partial to a closed pattern but the PPro is a champ from the baseline (especially on the ohbh) and I can generate great top while maintaining good depth.

el, along with that 3g @ 1.5 and 10.5, how much lead exactly in - I presume - the butt/handle area? Could you also please say more on how this set up differs from stock PP.

THX R

 

[The Djoker]

I picked up a YTPP demo at my local shop the other day (actually just picked up, didn't buy a demo racquet or anything), and it seemed surprisingly light, which I think I liked. I also really liked the head shape for some reason, and it did seem closer to 95 sq in than 98...

 

[el sergento]

el, along with that 3g @ 1.5 and 10.5, how much lead exactly in - I presume - the butt/handle area?

I removed the leather grip and put on a synthetic (Wilson K grip). This lowered the weight to 322 grams and made it 2.5-3 points HL (with leather it was 5 pts).

I then added 12 grams (mixture of silicone and fishing weights) in the handle for a 6 pt HL balance. With an OG it's 7 pts. HL

Could you also please say more on how this set up differs from stock PP.

THX R

Despite the extra weight (really, it's only 5 grams more than with the leather) and despite the higher SW (320 instead of 311), this setup swings easier than stock. Stock, the balance was too HH (5 pts) and without the extra weight in the head the racquet didn't cut through the air as fast, felt sluggish.

Don't get me wrong, stock it plays quite nicely but it lacks some punch and depth.

With the extra weight in the head this racquet has great plow, not quite 6.1 caliber but close.

 

[Ross K]

I removed the leather grip and put on a synthetic (Wilson K grip). This lowered the weight to 322 grams and made it 2.5-3 points HL (with leather it was 5 pts).

I then added 12 grams (mixture of silicone and fishing weights) in the handle for a 6 pt HL balance. With an OG it's 7 pts. HL



Despite the extra weight (really, it's only 5 grams more than with the leather) and despite the higher SW (320 instead of 311), this setup swings easier than stock. Stock, the balance was too HH (5 pts) and without the extra weight in the head the racquet didn't cut through the air as fast, felt sluggish.

Don't get me wrong, stock it plays quite nicely but it lacks some punch and depth.

With the extra weight in the head this racquet has great plow, not quite 6.1 caliber but close.

el,

This is such a subjective area and what works for one rarely works for another in my experience when it comes to modding, however... you really are tempting me here to try out your set up!

I like what you have to say about the PP (and other Prestige's) and... yes... as it's a bit more oomph or depth, heavy ball, whatever, as well as a tad more spin, that I'm seeking, hmm, I might just try it... so... 3g (total) @ 1.5 and 10.5... a couple of 7g fishing weights in butt (I have a bag of these)... er, and that's about it - bingo!

Q... 1.5?... 10.5?... would these locations be about adjacent to the 3rd cross-string from top?

TIA

R

 

[el sergento]

el,

This is such a subjective area and what works for one rarely works for another in my experience when it comes to modding, however... you really are tempting me here to try out your set up!

I agree. Although when it's an easy mod it's worth a try, and 3 grams of lead really isn't that much and it won't dramatically change the feel of the racquet.

I like what you have to say about the PP (and other Prestige's) and... yes... as it's a bit more oomph or depth, heavy ball, whatever, as well as a tad more spin, that I'm seeking, hmm, I might just try it... so... 3g (total) @ 1.5 and 10.5... a couple of 7g fishing weights in butt (I have a bag of these)... er, and that's about it - bingo!

Q... 1.5?... 10.5?... would these locations be about adjacent to the 3rd cross-string from top?

TIA

R

Yeah, that's the location I used. My calculations called for 60 cm from the butt but that fell about a quarter inch lower than the third cross string so I just used the cross string since it was a minimal difference and easier reference point.

Also, you might not need so much weight in the handle. My P Pro was off spec in balance, with it being 5 pts instead of the rated 6.

For me though, I just need at least 6 pts HL to hit my one hander properly, anything less and I have a hard time locking my wrist on the follow through.

Anyhow, good luck. It's an easy mod and it's 100% reversible.

Cheers

 

[Ross K]

I agree. Although when it's an easy mod it's worth a try, and 3 grams of lead really isn't that much and it won't dramatically change the feel of the racquet.



Yeah, that's the location I used. My calculations called for 60 cm from the butt but that fell about a quarter inch lower than the third cross string so I just used the cross string since it was a minimal difference and easier reference point.

Also, you might not need so much weight in the handle. My P Pro was off spec in balance, with it being 5 pts instead of the rated 6.

For me though, I just need at least 6 pts HL to hit my one hander properly, anything less and I have a hard time locking my wrist on the follow through.

Anyhow, good luck. It's an easy mod and it's 100% reversible.

Cheers

El,

Thanks mate. I'm SERIOUSLY considering this now.


R

 

[DownTheLine]

The speed is a canon compared to the PP. The racquets are VERY different. Speed feels flimsy, big headsize, big grip, and no good.


This is coming from a Prestige Pro user though

Seriously though, I've never been a fan of the Speeds.

 

[Power Player]

^^^

Yeah it was really hard for me to get that into the Speed after using a prestige. The prestige has such precision and feel that I felt pretty much the same as you.

I wish I could remember the model I was handed..I hit with it for 2 seconds and was done, but it was one of the lighter versions.