Zverev has now 3 Master 1000 on clay. Thiem has none.

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Thiem has 2 FO Finals, and 2 SF, losing against the greatest clay court player ever, while Zverev has only 2 QF, getting smoked by Thiem and Djokovic

Thiem has beaten the Big 3 three times in GS while Zverev has not beaten a top 10 in a GS.

Thiem is 4-0 in GS matches against Zverev (2-0 on clay)

But Zverev has 3 Master 1000 on clay, while Thiem has none.

It says a lot about Thiem, who is a much BETTER player on clay than Zverev. He underrachieved big time. He was lucky that Zverev gave him a nice gift in the USO 2020 Final.
 
Thiem has the better ass though. That's worth at least 4 Masters 1000's right there.

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No excuses for Thiem but Zverev had declining Djoker, injured Federer, lousy ATP 1000 final player Thiem, and erratic Berretinni in his ATP 1000 wins. He lost to Isner in his Miami final. Yeah, he has four ATP 1000 titles but they have asterisks galore.
 
If Zverev can translate his game to BO5 he will be unstoppable. He might have the highest peak I’ve ever seen.
We are in the midst of a stunning era.
 
Perhaps it’s saying that Zverev is much better at BO3. Once he improves his stamina, I’d expect him to do better than Thiem at the slams, since he has a higher ceiling.
 
Perhaps it’s saying that Zverev is much better at BO3. Once he improves his stamina, I’d expect him to do better than Thiem at the slams, since he has a higher ceiling.
How can anyone beat him?

Huge missiles on both 1st & 2nd serve (when clicking)
Huge missiles on FH/BH.
Decent slice
Great movement and speed for a tall guy
Dominant overhead

I make only Nadal at RG favourite and possibly Novak at AO. Everywhere else this guy will sweep the tour. He is the evolution of tennis o_O
 
Thiem has 2 FO Finals, and 2 SF, losing against the greatest clay court player ever, while Zverev has only 2 QF, getting smoked by Thiem and Djokovic

Thiem has beaten the Big 3 three times in GS while Zverev has not beaten a top 10 in a GS.

Thiem is 4-0 in GS matches against Zverev (2-0 on clay)

But Zverev has 3 Master 1000 on clay, while Thiem has none.

It says a lot about Thiem, who is a much BETTER player on clay than Zverev. He underrachieved big time. He was lucky that Zverev gave him a nice gift in the USO 2020 Final.

This thread will soon be irrelevant since https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/thiem-to-win-2021-fo.696703/
 
If Zverev can translate his game to BO5 he will be unstoppable. He might have the highest peak I’ve ever seen.
We are in the midst of a stunning era.
Most players never translate into best-of-5-sets, because they lack the ingredients of a man.
Zverev is just another statistic.
Same as Diego Schwartzman.
Diego beat Nadal 62 75 at Rome last year.
Nadal beat Diego 63 63 76(0) at Roland Garros last year.
 
Not really a fair comparison, it's not Thiem is some prince of clay or anything, the guy is a hard court specialist.
 
There is no excuse for Thiem. Guys like Zverev or Fognini managed to win the Masters title on clay with Nadal's scalp. The absence of a clay Masters title is a failure in Thiem's career.
 
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