Zverev in alleged hot waters

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Alba Barragan

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Does another in this context mean there were multiple allegations against Zverev?
It means his other ex (Brenda) is pregnant with a child of his, and either he didn't know (unlikely) or he doesn't want to acknowledge it. She's asking for full custody. This new statement by Olya came a bit after those news.
 

Alba Barragan

Professional
I do think Zverev will go on to win slams after this. He will start getting booed by the crowds and become bitter, resulting in him getting over his service yips and playing more aggressively. When he plays all out, very few can stop him.
So he's not just getting away with messing up other people's lives, he'll get rewarded after that. :rolleyes::mad:
 

conjoshruk

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Wow, not a good week for Zverev!
Allegations of domestic violence are pretty serious! And, add this to another ex-girlfriend being pregnant with his child.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
You never know what goes on in private people’s lives. Whatever happened between them is none of our business.
Yes and no. That's for things like who cheated on whom or things like that. Abuse and domestic violence are not merely things for two people to "sort out between themselves".

Furthermore, people like Zverev are in the spotlight and are in a unique position to set an example for others.

If the allegations are true then what message would we be sending if we were to continue to support the guy?
So he's not just getting away with messing up other people's lives, he'll get rewarded after that. :rolleyes::mad:
par for the course then
 
I hope these are false allegations. If so, it still sucks because he was just now getting into some serious good form again.
 

Arak

Hall of Fame
Yes and no. That's for things like who cheated on whom or things like that. Abuse and domestic violence are not merely things for two people to "sort out between themselves".

Furthermore, people like Zverev are in the spotlight and are in a unique position to set an example for others.

If the allegations are true then what message would we be sending if we were to continue to support the guy?

par for the course then
I would expect a law suite if her allegations are true. Germany is not a country where someone can get away with women abuse. In the meanwhile, we don’t know that her allegations are true, and whatever we say here is just slander.
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
I would expect a law suite if her allegations are true. Germany is not a country where someone can get away with women abuse. In the meanwhile, we don’t know that her allegations are true, and whatever we say here is just slander.
Talking about a public allegation isn't slander. Lawsuits are for civil matters, not criminal ones. It would be up to a prosecutor to decide if s/he wants to follow up on the allegations.
 

tsurismo5

Semi-Pro
We don’t know the truth of this but Zverev absolutely seems like a dbag. Will never forget his arrogance when I met him. (Djokovic on the other hand was a very nice person, will never forget that either). A great reminder of how lucky we are that the top 3 players in our sport haven’t had so much as an insinuation of behavior like this (inb4 someone mentions Deepika - just don’t).
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
It's only her word right now, unless there is proof or any sort of physical evidence like pictures of her with bruises or whatever then this is a non-story and is nothing but slander right now. This isn't a question of "if you believe it" because this sort of accusation happens to a LOT of people in life, many of whom are innocent. We don't know the truth and probably won't ever so he is innocent until proven guilty.

If you want to put your own bias into this discussion then sure, add stuff like why post this on Instagram? Why did she not go to the police? Why was this posted right after the baby announcement of his other girlfriend? Why is she going out of her way to not implicate anyone else in the story such as Dasha Medvedeva.

TL;DR. Zverev is Innocent until proven guilty and there is no proof, only her word and she took over a year to tell the story and didn't go to the cops.
 

FRV4

Professional
It's only her word right now, unless there is proof or any sort of physical evidence like pictures of her with bruises or whatever then this is a non-story and is nothing but slander right now. This isn't a question of "if you believe it" because this sort of accusation happens to a LOT of people in life, many of whom are innocent. We don't know the truth and probably won't ever so he is innocent until proven guilty.

If you want to put your own bias into this discussion then sure, add stuff like why post this on Instagram? Why did she not go to the police? Why was this posted right after the baby announcement of his other girlfriend? Why is she going out of her way to not implicate anyone else in the story such as Dasha Medvedeva.

TL;DR. Zverev is Innocent until proven guilty and there is no proof, only her word and she took over a year to tell the story and didn't go to the cops.
I do hope Zverev is innocent. We will likely not ever know the truth.
 
First of all, this sounds fishy. It is more likely a blackmail for some quick cash now that he is a slam finalist that is worth millions.. Nowadays, most women get the educated in school about this very topic around the world, even in high school that if there is abuse, go to police immediately or make report with authority In this case, she said that she doesn't know where to go while barefooted in the street. Why wait for a whole year? If it's serious, it's common knowledge that there is protection by reporting the police and let the court proceed rather than go to newspaper. Now there is no evidence, no witnesses. If there are no witnesses, then it's his words against her words. It is not admissible under the law without any credible witness. If this all proven true, Zverev is in a big trouble, he is more likely will not be able to play in NY ever again for the fear of being arrested.
 

atatu

Legend
First of all, this sounds fishy. It is more likely a blackmail for some quick cash now that he is a slam finalist that is worth millions.. Nowadays, most women get the educated in school about this very topic around the world, even in high school that if there is abuse, go to police immediately or make report with authority In this case, she said that she doesn't know where to go while barefooted in the street. Why wait for a whole year? If it's serious, it's common knowledge that there is protection by reporting the police and let the court proceed rather than go to newspaper. Now there is no evidence, no witnesses. If there are no witnesses, then it's his words against her words. It is not admissible under the law without any credible witness. If this all proven true, Zverev is in a big trouble, he is more likely will not be able to play in NY ever again for the fear of being arrested.
What do you mean "it's not admissible under the law" exactly ?
 
What do you mean "it's not admissible under the law" exactly ?
If there is no witness, no evidence of any kind and prosecutor to seek a guilt verdict in the case becomes difficult is what I mean. Right now it's just a words that made allegation rather than a hard evidence since bruises is more likely long gone. And if there is any damages to the wall, the hotel would have filed some kind of damage report that there is damages to the wall according to the story.
 

Aussie Darcy

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For people on this thread, yes there is innocent until proven guilty but my god please don’t post things asking why she’s only coming out now or that she’s in it for money or that women are educated and know by now to just go straight to the police. Comments like this show why women don’t just go to the police, because they are doubted and ridiculed and blamed.
 
I don't really know, I don't like Zverev but he definitely doesn't look like women beating type. Really doesn't.

I hate him as a tennis player, but this , this is way way beyond that limitation. If this is true, this is horrible. Very horrible.

But I am going to wait for it to be proven.

Edited for having been mistaken.
 
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Aussie Darcy

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First of all, this sounds fishy. It is more likely a blackmail for some quick cash now that he is a slam finalist that is worth millions.. Nowadays, most women get the educated in school about this very topic around the world, even in high school that if there is abuse, go to police immediately or make report with authority In this case, she said that she doesn't know where to go while barefooted in the street. Why wait for a whole year? If it's serious, it's common knowledge that there is protection by reporting the police and let the court proceed rather than go to newspaper. Now there is no evidence, no witnesses. If there are no witnesses, then it's his words against her words. It is not admissible under the law without any credible witness. If this all proven true, Zverev is in a big trouble, he is more likely will not be able to play in NY ever again for the fear of being arrested.
This is beyond stupid and you really need to re-evaluate your post. You prove the point of why women don’t go straight to the police and make a report, because so many people refuse to believe them like you’re doing now. I’m not saying he did it but I’m not saying he didn’t do it. You’re saying it’s a money thing, that’s a vile thing to say. Shame on you.
 
I don't get why, though. The Basilashvili thread is still out there and it also had/has some serious accusations against him. People deserve to know the bad stuff players do.
This is the same forum that banned talk about the pandemic despite having a direct impact on the actual sport itself.
Yes and no. That's for things like who cheated on whom or things like that. Abuse and domestic violence are not merely things for two people to "sort out between themselves".

Furthermore, people like Zverev are in the spotlight and are in a unique position to set an example for others.

If the allegations are true then what message would we be sending if we were to continue to support the guy?

par for the course then
Great comments.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
I don't really know, I don't like Zverev but he definitely doesn't look like women beating type. Really doesn't.

I hate him as a tennis player, but this , this is way way beyond that limitation. If this is true, this is horrible. Very horrible.

But I am going to wait for it to be proven. But the girl herself hasn't filed suit, hasn't even asked for child support, she said she is in a fortunate position to raise the kid by her own money. By disclosing these things ,as of now she has no possible monetary gain. This is messed up. Very messed up.
I actually think this is a different girlfriend to the pregnant one? I might be wrong but the tweet says “another ex girlfriend”.
 
For people on this thread, yes there is innocent until proven guilty but my god please don’t post things asking why she’s only coming out now or that she’s in it for money or that women are educated and know by now to just go straight to the police. Comments like this show why women don’t just go to the police, because they are doubted and ridiculed and blamed.
I disagree. They are not being ridiculed or blamed if there are evidences. Most often, men are in jail all because of merely women's words only for them to find out years later that they are truly innocent after many appeals. There are some women out there are seeking revenge if she doesn't get a man that she wants for herself.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
I disagree. They are not being ridiculed or blamed if there are evidences. Most often, men are in jail all because of merely women's words only for them to find out years later that they are truly innocent after many appeals. There are some women out there are seeking revenge if she doesn't get a man that she wants for herself.
This is not true and statistics show this is not true, please stop posting these blatant lies. More men get away with domestic violence than men get put away on false domestic violence charges by a HUGE and MASSIVE margin. Don’t even try this ******** line.
 
This is not true and statistics show this is not true, please stop posting these blatant lies. More men get away with domestic violence than men get put away on false domestic violence charges by a HUGE and MASSIVE margin. Don’t even try this ******** line.
Women are not exactly innocent that you would be led to believe to, however, I do acknowledge that these incidents happens and it Is my belief that men should never hit any women, ever, for whatever reason and justice needs to be happened through proper channels. Tweets or leaking any info to newspaper are not.
 
I disagree. They are not being ridiculed or blamed if there are evidences. Most often, men are in jail all because of merely women's words only for them to find out years later that they are truly innocent after many appeals. There are some women out there are seeking revenge if she doesn't get a man that she wants for herself.
Sorry that's a big NO. I agree there are significant number of cases in which such a thing happens and no. of such cases are on a rise, But it's utter madness to even think,that's always that.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
Olya posted some screen shots of the messages she had with her friends when Z kicked her out of the hotel room. They have date and all. It could always be a product of photoshop, but I rather believe a liar than defend an ab*ser.
That doesn’t seem like great logic. What if I accuse you of domestic ab*se right now? Should everyone believe the worst of you just to avoid defending an ab*ser?

The logical thing given no concrete evidence is to not assume anything.

I do hope Zverev is innocent. We will likely not ever know the truth.
This is sadly most likely. Everyone will believe what they want to believe based on their own biases.
 

Rosstour

Legend
You never know what goes on in private people’s lives. Whatever happened between them is none of our business.
Well, that's one way to say you believe Zverev.

I disagree. They are not being ridiculed or blamed if there are evidences. Most often, men are in jail all because of merely women's words only for them to find out years later that they are truly innocent after many appeals. There are some women out there are seeking revenge if she doesn't get a man that she wants for herself.
While this does happen, it happens far less frequently than the norm, which is that a man abuses a woman and gets away with it because she doesn't want to go through the ordeal of reporting it, having him arrested, hiring a lawyer, etc.

Police have seen it all, so they are often better at figuring out who's lying than you might think. Not to say they don't make mistakes, and not to say there aren't sneaky women out there. But the popular perception is there for a reason, women are much more at risk for domestic abuse than men are, and are FAR more likely to be injured/killed by it.
 
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