Zverev is the only one who can beat Nadal at Roland Garros
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Harry_Wild
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Rafa took Zverev out in Rome 2021: 6-3, 6-4!
Beckerserve
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7-1 the h2h in Rafa favour.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
If they won't beat him, it mean they can't.
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Lol...I remember her, still can't believe that's the same person.
mike danny
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This hasn't aged well.
This thread is delusional as hell. Every time Nadal loses to someone in a clay tournament warm-up, people get excited that they could be the one who takes him out at RG. Thiem, Schwartzman, Zverev. Same story, different year. This is not 2015. Nadal has been erratic in the warm-ups this year, but it is obvious that he can still reach a higher level on clay than anyone else on tour.
I can't see anyone beating a Nadal who is at least playing to 75% level of his game at RG. It won't happen. He"ll be dialled in for RG. Zverev and Tsitsipas are his biggest threats this year on clay, and he had taken them both out in the clay warm-ups. He has nothing to fear. He knows how to beat all of them.
I can't see anyone beating a Nadal who is at least playing to 75% level of his game at RG. It won't happen. He"ll be dialled in for RG. Zverev and Tsitsipas are his biggest threats this year on clay, and he had taken them both out in the clay warm-ups. He has nothing to fear. He knows how to beat all of them.
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StrongRule
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Today's match didn't change the obvious fact that Zverev is very tough for Nadal. Nadal was surprisingly clutch in the second set, saving all 8 break points and breaking himself. If just one point would go differently then it could be a very different match. Zverev is not an opponent I would like Nadal to face in RG 1/4 final, that is for sure. Leave alone on other surfaces.
mike danny
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Please, if Zverev couldn't beat a Nadal in BO3 who was coming after a 3.5 hour match the previous day, he ain't touching him in BO5 at RG.
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Zverev can't even beat a top 10 player in Slams LOLOL.
Nadal's 4-1 against Zverev on clay, with 3 of those victories in straight sets. Zverev's not the simplest match-up for Nadal, but on clay their difference in level is so big it doesn't really matter.
I overrated Zverev
He is not really a good clay player. Madrid " Red Hardcourt " surface made him better than he really his. He won Rome by beating servebots and 2017 Slumpovic
On slow clay, his serve while still very good is nullified and he has not the forehand to compete with Nadal. His net game is atrocious.
Zverev is Walmart Safin. Zverev would never replicate the level of USO 2000 Safin or AO 2005 Safin.
He is not really a good clay player. Madrid " Red Hardcourt " surface made him better than he really his. He won Rome by beating servebots and 2017 Slumpovic
On slow clay, his serve while still very good is nullified and he has not the forehand to compete with Nadal. His net game is atrocious.
Zverev is Walmart Safin. Zverev would never replicate the level of USO 2000 Safin or AO 2005 Safin.
BeatlesFan
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And do you honestly think Rublev, of all people, has the balls or the mentality to defeat Rafa in BO5 in an RG final, if Rublev miraculously makes it that far? He'd lose to Nadal in a complete bludgeoning. Fitness isn't the issue, MENTALITY is.
How many times does this need to be repeated? Defeating Rafael Nadal in a FO final is the hardest thing to do in tennis.
Period.
Nothing else comes close.
The only next gen who has the stamina to hang with Nadal over 4 hours is ********** and (bizarrely), Shapovalov. If anyone thinks they will win the 2021 FO, you'll get great odds for your money, so make that bet.
mike danny
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duaneeo
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Zverev had a 3-hour match the previous day as well.
Regardless, the general wisdom here is that clay BO3 results don't matter at RG. Beating Rafa in clay BO3 means nothing, so why does losing to Rafa in clay BO3 mean something? If Zverev ain't touching Rafa in BO5 at RG, it's simply because he ain't touching Rafa in BO5 at RG. Lets not pretend that clay BO3 results suddenly matter at RG.
chjtennis
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That only means Nadal is more likely to beat Djokovic if they meet at RG, which is no secret, but Nadal should be an even bigger favorite v Zverev who's yet to reach a single semifinal at RG(Nadal should be the favorite v anyone at RG, by the way). If anyone believes Zverev is the toughest challenge to Nadal just because he won 3 matches in a row up to Madrid, Djokovic is leading Nadal H2H 29-27, has beaten Nadal 7 times in a row in the past which included 2 wins on clay, and has beaten Nadal quite regularly on clay since 2011. If there is 1 player who has the best chance to beat Nadal at RG, it is definitely Djokovic. Peak Thiem might have had a bit of a chance, but his form of recent time has been quite atrocious. I think Zverev's chance against Nadal is as good as that of Tsitsipas's.
BauerAlmeida
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Remember when Thiem beat Nadal on clay in Straight Sets in 2017, 2018 and 2019?
And when Diego beat Nadal in Straight Sets on clay in 2020?
Does anybody learn their lesson?
Or is everyone Goran?
And when Diego beat Nadal in Straight Sets on clay in 2020?
Does anybody learn their lesson?
Or is everyone Goran?
Rafa4LifeEver
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Zverev would lose something like 4-6 6-7 0-6
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Also Zverev is 0-9 vs. Top 10 players at Slams........so of those who have beaten Nadal on clay........he's the last player I'd ever expect to beat Nadal at Roland Garros.
Even Thiem has only won ONE set vs. Nadal at Roland Garros........and lost 12 sets.
It will take many years before someone comes along capable of beating Nadal at Roland Garros.
We are still looking for someone to take a set.
Even Thiem has only won ONE set vs. Nadal at Roland Garros........and lost 12 sets.
It will take many years before someone comes along capable of beating Nadal at Roland Garros.
We are still looking for someone to take a set.
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MichaelNadal
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Also Zverev is 0-9 vs. Top 10 players at Slams........so of those who have beaten Nadal on clay........he's the last player I'd ever expect to beat Nadal at Roland Garros.
Even Thiem has only won ONE set vs. Nadal at Roland Garros........and lost 12 sets.
It will take many years before someone comes along capable of beating Nadal at Roland Garros.
We are still looking for someone to take a set.
Like I always say, you're a massive troll. But this is funny to read bc it's just straight facts
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Fact #1:
Zverev has a poor win ratio against Top10 opponents at Slams. He's great against players out of Top10.
Fact #2:
Nadal is no longer a Top10 player.
Conclusion:
Zverev is likely to beat Nadal at RG23 more than ever before.
Am I correct?
Zverev has a poor win ratio against Top10 opponents at Slams. He's great against players out of Top10.
Fact #2:
Nadal is no longer a Top10 player.
Conclusion:
Zverev is likely to beat Nadal at RG23 more than ever before.
Am I correct?
DSH
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Krish872007
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Zverev actually did it this time, put in a very composed performance.
Only had to wait until Rafa was almost 38 years old, but a great achievement for him nonetheless.
Only had to wait until Rafa was almost 38 years old, but a great achievement for him nonetheless.
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