Zverev playing the gravity or just a PJ

fox

Professional
Discussion is. This is not a discussion. This is waste of time.
I tell you what she's using because someone who built her sticks said so (that someone is honest on this forum), then you keep saying something about pictures and questioning if there is some secrecy behind all this -- telling us exactly what every other player is using but mysteriously telling us lies about Barty...
OK...
This is also not a discussion that you say he is right and nothing more... I just stated that the mold is different and this is clearly visible at the throat.
 

fox

Professional
I know she is using the TGT344.1, I have verified with the same person that has confirmed many head related things for me (and other users on the forum), and Fox now believes from these blurry pictures that he sees different throats (which are extremely similar design details to start with).
And we keep going circles. So, yes, that is not a discussion, it is "I believe what I believe and you cannot change my mind". For that, tune on to FOXnews or CNN and you have it all day long going...
Because you don't understand that I'm at least trying to show you any kind of proof while you do not. Just saying "I know because he told me" is what any of us can put here. Gravity is different shape racquet than hers and it is not 1% difference invisible in any pic. But you have not even compared them so..
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Because you don't understand that I'm at least trying to show you any kind of proof while you do not. Just saying "I know because he told me" is what any of us can put here. Gravity is different shape racquet than hers and it is not 1% difference invisible in any pic. But you have not even compared them so..
There is no difference between her stick and retail, except the grommets (TK263A) and string pattern.
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Give me an evidence that she switched or at least any source why you claim that.

For me even the throat part over the grip looks looks different than gravity:

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Looks like IG speed.
Gravity has very little throat space over the grip while IG is much longer and sunken.
What??
The space (length) above grip is identical and "sunken" too. There is pretty much no difference between those two. Not sure what are you really seeing there.


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Barty is stillusing her old speed mold but Zeverev and Rublev they both using the new gravity mold. Check the grommets at 6 point in these pics and you can see the difference. Once you enlarge the pics it’s very clear that Zeverev and Rublev are using the same grommet design as the new gravity style (a little box which hide all the strings inside) and Barty is using the traditional style head grommets.



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what is the ruble string??
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
@sanister
Both of these are retail frames.
Nevertheless, there is absolutely no difference in mold between the retail and pro stock versions....unless you are seeing the difference there too ;)
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
You really do need reading glasses don't you? LOL. Or maybe just cherry picking some posts? ;)
Can you again point me to the differences in images of retail frames side by side I posted above???
One of us definitely needs vision checked. So far, Head racket drawings also show no difference...
 

sanister

Professional
@sanister
Both of these are retail frames.
Nevertheless, there is absolutely no difference in mold between the retail and pro stock versions....unless you are seeing the difference there too ;)
I only know of retail versions and have not seen prostock versions. And I am claiming what I am simply because I own the two and have them infront of me :)
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
I only know of retail versions and have not seen prostock versions. And I am claiming what I am simply because I own the two and have them infront of me :)
But can you point me to the differences in my attachments. Both are retail. I simply do not see any difference except the glossy paint. Again, if needed, I can sand it down
 

sanister

Professional
But can you point me to the differences in my attachments. Both are retail. I simply do not see any difference except the glossy paint. Again, if needed, I can sand it down
Scroll up and read before jumping the gun on hitting the post reply button. I explained it all. The difference is there. I explained the whole thing numerous times and posted pics. If you want, you can ask the moda to move those pics and posts here. It seems you are trolling now tagging me again and again and clearly what seems like looking for a fight. I don't have time to waste on this anymore. Believe what you want, but stop trolling.
 
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dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Except both use the Gravity Pro mold - which should be very very similar, but not exactly the same.
I saw no difference holding 3 of my IG Speed MP315s and 3 Gravity Pros, but @Howard H has held the actual molds in his hands and if he says it's slightly different, I'll take it. The same thing regarding Zverev, Barty and Rublev frames - I do believe they are all using the 344 mold, even if not the same retail layup or string pattern, as in Barty's case.
The only difference is in the string channel. The rest is no change in the mold.
same as PT113B and PT346.1 - same mold, slight change in string channel
 

bmd9

New User
Attempting to inject levity here, but how is it that Ash spins a prostock Gravity mold? Are her fingers sticks or something? Seems physically impossible, yet she does it all the time for Heads Instagram stuff.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
Attempting to inject levity here, but how is it that Ash spins a prostock Gravity mold? Are her fingers sticks or something? Seems physically impossible, yet she does it all the time for Heads Instagram stuff.

Must be a pro stock specifically weighted for that activity, like a fidget spinner.
 

haqq777

Legend
Attempting to inject levity here, but how is it that Ash spins a prostock Gravity mold? Are her fingers sticks or something? Seems physically impossible, yet she does it all the time for Heads Instagram stuff.
We need a video of said spinning action! :)
 

bmd9

New User
We need a video of said spinning action! :)
She was doing it for their media stuff yesterday, whatever it is they are doing with their Head players instead of IW. I play the retail Tour now and I think I would break my finger if I tried to spin it at the throat, but then again, I'm not a pro.
 

GR190

New User
and I think I would break my finger if I tried to spin it at the throat, but then again, I'm not a pro.

That reminds me, after years of using the RF97 and spinning it at the wide spot near where the throat and handle meet a million times - first time I did that out of habit with the Ultra Tour's thin H19 throat, it almost ripped the end of my index finger off :-D:eek:
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
That reminds me, after years of using the RF97 and spinning it at the wide spot near where the throat and handle meet a million times - first time I did that out of habit with the Ultra Tour's thin H19 throat, it almost ripped the end of my index finger off :-D:eek:

That’s why they need to release the H22 ... to prevent this injury.

Maybe they should number them based on the ring size that can comfortably gunsling it around their finger.
 

fox

Professional
Did YOU measure it, too?
Why would I? I don't have right equipment to do it. And no real aim. TW does NOT measure 1 racquet but plenty of them...... So the result is pretty accurate.

And even if I measured it and it was 20 mm then it is just one racquet. It is not reliable.

So now to sum up a discussion we have

- different beam width and shape
- different throat shape
- different playability - which is mentioned in many threads here
- different string pattern with old speed grommet on Barty's racquet

versus

'No, she did switch' - by Howard H and d325i.
 
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moon shot

Hall of Fame
In maths 21 mm is not equal to 20 mm so how there is no difference?

I have a digital micrometer, it is quite easy on a shape like a racquet for it to be able to shift and get slightly different readings.

in addition a millimeter is very small, a difference in painting technique or decal location could theoretically shift it one way or another — especially if rounding the fractions off.
 
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