Zverev USO21 vs Roddick 2003

pj80

Legend
Big Z....Arod struggled with Nalbandian(lol) Schalken and Lubachek....Big Z would be teeing off of Arod in 3 quick sets
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
If you think Alexander “Sascha” Zverev is going to hold up mentally playing an American in a roaring Arthur Ashe, I have a bridge in Queens very close by to sell you.
 

Biotic

Hall of Fame
Zverev against a top 10 player in a slam. The answer is clear.

The answer is not clear at all. Zverev is a certified choker, nontheless he gave Djoko a great fight and in that particular match, he didn't choke. I could even say Djoko was a bit lucky to get an early lead in the 5th that decided the outcome.

And let's not forget Roddick was on the brink of getting STRAIGHTSETTED by none other than freakin Nalbandian, before the poor old fat dude got subjected to a DAYLIGHT robbery, and entirely lost the plot. Beating Ferrero of all people in the F proves nothing.
 

RS

Bionic Poster
I only want matchups from 2008-2013 levels or including a certain few players outside that window now on. :)
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
The answer is not clear at all. Zverev is a certified choker, nontheless he gave Djoko a great fight and in that particular match, he didn't choke. I could even say Djoko was a bit lucky to get an early lead in the 5th that decided the outcome.

And let's not forget Roddick was on the brink of getting STRAIGHTSETTED by none other than freakin Nalbandian, before the poor old fat dude got subjected to a DAYLIGHT robbery, and entirely lost the plot. Beating Ferrero of all people in the F proves nothing.
Couldn't even beat a sub par Djoker while playing his best tennis. Says it all.
 

Serve&Bash

Semi-Pro
The answer is not clear at all. Zverev is a certified choker, nontheless he gave Djoko a great fight and in that particular match, he didn't choke. I could even say Djoko was a bit lucky to get an early lead in the 5th that decided the outcome.

And let's not forget Roddick was on the brink of getting STRAIGHTSETTED by none other than freakin Nalbandian, before the poor old fat dude got subjected to a DAYLIGHT robbery, and entirely lost the plot. Beating Ferrero of all people in the F proves nothing.

Have you ever watched Nalbandian play? I would think so since you have an avatar featuring Safin and Kuerten. He was supremely talented player who was having a great summer. He beat Federer, the number 2 seed, in 4 sets earlier in the same tournament. There was no DAYLIGHT robbery. It's high time that people actually watched the match and see what happened rather than just regurgitate this nonsense. Someone in the stands called OUT on a shot that Roddick was about to hit. If anyone should have been thrown off by that call it should have been Roddick who scrambled hard and still hit the ball back. Nalbandian then missed an easy forehand DTL and made a huge deal about the whole situation. And even if by some stretch of the imagination Nalbandian didn't get "robbed" on that point and won it, it wouldn't have been game,set and match.

I also think you should revisit that 2021 match between Zverev and Djokovic. Zverev choked and it was EPIC. He had won a great 4th set over djokovic and 15 minutes later he was down 0-4 to Djokovic in the 5th set.
 
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Zverev is a hopeless case of 'could've, should've, would've, didn't' in Slams. The ability to win was clearly there in that semi, but when the moment of truth came, that ability disappeared like it never existed. With that, there is no case to be made that Zverev would be a favorite to win against Roddick.
 

TheNachoMan

Legend
Zverev is a hopeless case of 'could've, should've, would've, didn't' in Slams. The ability to win was clearly there in that semi, but when the moment of truth came, that ability disappeared like it never existed. With that, there is no case to be made that Zverev would be a favorite to win against Roddick.
When slams inevitably turn to BO3 in 5-10 years time, we will talk about how peak Zverev would dominate like no one ever before.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
Thankfully OP didn't make this USO 07 QF or W04 F Roddick or else they'd need a broom to sweep the powder Zverev would be reduced to off the court. Given we are dealing with a Roddick whose terrible backhand, return, fitness and movement can be successfully exploited for a win, I'm going to go with Big Z in 4.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
The answer is not clear at all. Zverev is a certified choker, nontheless he gave Djoko a great fight and in that particular match, he didn't choke. I could even say Djoko was a bit lucky to get an early lead in the 5th that decided the outcome.

And let's not forget Roddick was on the brink of getting STRAIGHTSETTED by none other than freakin Nalbandian, before the poor old fat dude got subjected to a DAYLIGHT robbery, and entirely lost the plot. Beating Ferrero of all people in the F proves nothing.
Dude Roddick doesn't lose hypotheticals, get with it.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Roddick is very lucky that Nalbandian did the dirty work for him by taking Fed out. Let’s be real. lol
Federer was a nobody. Roddick won his slam. Do not take it away.

Zverev is a loser. Admit it. Current era is full of losers and Zverev is the worst kind. Some think it is social media era. Roddick doesn't care about social media at all.
 

Holmes

Hall of Fame
Roddick is very lucky that Nalbandian did the dirty work for him by taking Fed out. Let’s be real. lol
Let's not. I prefer the fantasy world where Roddick is a tier 1 GOAT monster who was robbed of 15 slams by the real world misfortunes of dipping playing levels, interrupted matches and most irritating of all, superior opponents.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Roddick is very lucky that Nalbandian did the dirty work for him by taking Fed out. Let’s be real. lol
Smashing is way too extreme. Even Fed didn't smash him in 2006 or 2007 (even though it was straights) and Arod was better in 2003, so yeah it was a clown post. As was yours (y)
 

Pheasant

Legend
Zverev goes up 2 sets to love and is up a break in the 3rd set, only to have flashbacks of his 2020 match with Thiem, then goes on to lose in a 5th set tiebreak to 2003 Andy Roddick.
 

Mivic

Hall of Fame
He was sub par all tournament long. It's not like he strolled through the field beforehand. Lost a set in pretty much every match he played.
Tbf the stretch of play that comprised the last three sets against Berrettini in the quarters was some of the best stuff he'd played all season, certainly better than anything post RG in relative terms (meaning relative to his best level on a given surface or at a given event) and in terms of absolute level you'd probably have to go back as far as the latter stages of the AO in what was a near CYGS winning season (granted this also speaks to the level on tour in recent times to some extent) to find anything better, and even then you can only find a few matches that stack up because Novak had the abdominal issue for most of AO21. Yeah it's Berrettini but he was still decently capable of putting up a respectable level of resistance in 2021 at times and could seriously bot for stretches. I still remember him completely shutting Djokovic out on serve for two sets and botting like a madman at RG (which Novak ended up winning) of all places.

And as much as Zverev choked to go down the second break in the fifth set of the SF, Djokovic was incredibly clutch with his serve on break points throughout that match IIRC (his serve came up huge for him in both HC slam meetings vs Zverev that year) and he definitely needed to be. While I agree that Zverev sorta folded in the end, in that kind of form he definitely wasn't giving the match away without Djokovic applying substantial pressure. You had to be good enough to put him in a position to choke in the first place at that point. Their match at the Olympics just prior attests to that. Zverev likely would have beaten the version of Djokovic that showed up in the final pretty comfortably himself and I might honestly give that version of Sascha better chances against actual competition than I would USO21 Medvedev as well tbh. His game poses a bit more of a threat to well playing opponents with actual weapons of their own at his best.

As far as the OP goes you'd obviously have to favour Roddick but Zverev went on some crazy serving streaks a few times at USO21 when the pressure was off and he could actually sort of hit forehands back then as well. Probably his best level at a slam to date. The serving level in the first set of the SF was off the charts (from both guys actually but particularly on Zverev's end) and plenty good in the fourth as well so he could definitely take a set or two though I guess you'd have to favour Roddick to get over the line eventually. Roddick obviously has the benefit of having a huge serve himself which is going to put Zverev in some tight spots at the end of sets which works in his favour match-up wise given Zverev's history. Purely levelwise though I don't think it's particularly the case that Sascha isn't capable of hanging with him or anything like that, at least for a period.
 
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