Zvev and Med CAN beat Djoker but…

Service Ace

Hall of Fame
So Djokovic won't win any slams in his career? See 2007 USO final...

I don't think that matters much. Both of them are miles better now then they were in those matches.
Medvedev is objectively not playing better, he was on an insane win streak going into that final and got utterly exposed as being a world class pusher.

Zverev proved he doesn’t have the nerve to be a threat to Novak serving 60 mph in a Slam final smh. It’s not just about result but how you lose that tells the true story.
 

Service Ace

Hall of Fame
why is everyone overlooking FAA?
For the same reason rational people are overlooking Zverev and Medvedev against Djokovic, because of the minimum common sense it takes to see that they aren’t going to be able to beat the opponent that lies ahead of them.
 
Djokovic has significantly upped his game. He loses the first set, like an appetizer in a five course meal, and then ups his game.
Djoker basically went into lockdown mode making near zero UFEs and his game was near GOAT level.

The question remains if any of the next Gen can hang with Novak in a 5 set war. To me Zverev is the most likely. Still, I am backing Novak to win it all!
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Why is this even be discussed? Both Zverev and Med have repeatedly shown in slams they are consummate chokers. Zverev couldn't even serve out the USO finals match versus Thiem, who has about 1/100,000,000th the aura and game of Djokovic. Med choked in this year's AO final. Neither have a chance in hell and the Djokovic fans touting these two guys are just engaging in psychological gamesmanship.

The only justification of even playing the matches is that both Zverev and Med hope and pray Novak sustains a serious injury and has to retire. That's the only way either will get anywhere near the trophy.
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
They can’t and they won’t. See 2020 USO Final & 2021 AO Final.
Exactly

It looks like these people watch tennis all the time , yet cannot make reasonable predictions

Why would Zverev beat Djokovic , when he has not beaten a top 10 player all his life ?

And Medvedev could not even take a single set from a Djokovic who struggled to get past Taylor Fritz and had a huge tear
 

ibbi

Legend
Yes, I mean the fight in Australia was impressive, and then the final performance was incredible, but take out the Nadal match, and I think he was basically on autopilot through Roland Garros and Wimbledon, and didn't look particularly impressive at all.

These last couple of matches when he has got going he really has looked in killer mode, which is especially something considering you can also see that the weight of history is clearly getting to him.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Why would Zverev beat Djokovic , when he has not beaten a top 10 player all his life ?
Zed now has Olympic win and experience in US Open 2020 Final.

He may not win but he will play better and it will likely be close. Why? Because he has gained confidence and experience.

How do you not factor that in?
Do you even play tennis?
 
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ND-13

Hall of Fame
Zed now has Olympic win and experience in US Open 2020 Final.

He may not win but he will play better and it will likely be close. Why? Because he has gained confidence and experience.

How do you not factor that in?
Do you even play tennis?
Not in BO5

He still has a big fat 0 top 10 wins all his career. Let us talk when that changes
 

Omega_7000

Legend
People keep forgetting Zverev beat Djokovic in BO3.

He has not proven that he can beat anyone of significance in BO5 yet and he supposed to be at the peak of his career :sick:
 

SonnyT

Hall of Fame
Some players are extra special in that the bigger the occasion, the better they play. Like Tiger Wood, Michael Jordan, and Tom Brady.

We know where Djokovic belongs in that category, and suspect where Med and Zed belong.
 

duaneeo

Legend
Why is this even be discussed? Both Zverev and Med have repeatedly shown in slams they are consummate chokers. Zverev couldn't even serve out the USO finals match versus Thiem, who has about 1/100,000,000th the aura and game of Djokovic. Med choked in this year's AO final. Neither have a chance in hell and the Djokovic fans touting these two guys are just engaging in psychological gamesmanship.
You're not fooling anyone. Not only do you want Zverev to beat Nole, but you're actually quite optimistic that he will. This fake post puts you in a win-win situation. If Zverev loses, your prediction is right and you can say 'I told you!'. If Zverev wins, your prediction is wrong but you wouldn't care!
 
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