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Mayami or Tier One?
Yep. I second on both
Mayami or Tier One?
I’m just trying to pick a reel to buy, man!!!!I have both, who says you have to choose one
What frame are you using and what are your expectations? i might help you out perhaps !I’m just trying to pick a reel to buy, man!!!!
Your thread and Jolly’s thread inspired me to document my string journey!What frame are you using and what are your expectations? i might help you out perhaps !
I’m just trying to pick a reel to buy, man!!!!
Hah , new trend this yearYour thread and Jolly’s thread inspired me to document my string journey!
I use a 6.1 95 18x20, which is headlight. I’m just trying to find a string but I don’t know enough to really seek certain strings out over other strings yet. Luxilon I’ve noticed to be preferable over Solinco Hyper G and Kirschbaum Spiky Shark so far.
Try tour hex 1.23 and hit pro 1.25 (you use 1.25 gauge usually ?)Your thread and Jolly’s thread inspired me to document my string journey!
I use a 6.1 95 18x20, which is headlight. I’m just trying to find a string but I don’t know enough to really seek certain strings out over other strings yet. Luxilon I’ve noticed to be preferable over Solinco Hyper G and Kirschbaum Spiky Shark so far.
I ordered the Mayami sampler strings and they are on my list!Try tour hex 1.23 and hit pro 1.25 (you use 1.25 gauge usually ?)
i never tried hepta power. Maybe someone can chime in and tell the differences
let me know how you like hepta power !I ordered the Mayami sampler strings are on my list!
I've mostly used 16G but I'm going to try out some strings in a smaller gauge
I think you should try the "Big Twist" (BS mains/MT crosses) first. As @Spoon suggests, string the crosses 4-6# lower than your mains.
If you try TH/MT, I'd be interested in your review. It seems to me the rifling grooves of Magic Twist and the edges of Tour Hex might impede 'snap-back' or have a higher level of friction than using a smooth cross.
For me, the big difference between Big Twist and FireWire Boost is predictability and power. FireWire offers more power, IMHO. Whereas BT excels in predictable response because of its twisted profile. String the two side by side and you'll see nearly all the apexes on the Big Spin string bed are facing up on the string bed at every string intersection. With FireWire it happens but it is inconsistent across the string bed. Mayami seemed to have nailed the perfect rotation value. I would think if the twist were more or less frequent the inconsistent direction of the apexes would affect the response.
What you may want to try is Big Spin mains with Ghost Wire crosses, which is on my list also to try out once I get out of the current multi/gut mains - poly cross phase I'm stuck in at the moment ... LOL. Without even trying it, my expectation is the combo would have Big Twist responsiveness with a little more pop and a softer feel on impact, depending on which GW gauge you install.
Another hybrid I'm diggin' is Big Spin and Toroline's Wasabi (pink). This combo was like Big Twist but with a super crisp feel/response.
Is the Wasabi and Caviar sample set for $16 a good deal or should I just pass on Toroline?
edit: found a free shipping coupon, bringing the total to $12. i’m in
I have been playing with Big twist and love it. What is the difference between that and big spin/ Wasabi?? Very interested. Please let me know.
Interesting, I thought it had a high pitched screechy sound at 49lbs, what tension did you string it at (or did you use a vib dampener?)Mayami Tour Hex Review
Short version: zitto e buono ( quiet and well-behaved )
Long version:
Strung it in Angell TC97 16x19 (with blue grommets, of course) at 47 lbs. This string has a few unique characteristics:
1) very low power
On first hitting, all shots were landing 5-6 feet shorter than usual, and in subsequent days, it did not gain much either. I had to adjust - a lot.
2) very quiet
The string is very quiet. Does not produce any reverberations or sounds. Very atypical of any string.
It also does not convey any feedback. For those who like to "feel" the ball on the strings, this string is not for you.
3) smoothing effects
This quality is very hard to describe. Let's call it "smoothing" for now. You probably know what "responsive" is: you change a little here and little there, and the racquet responds immediately, amplifying those variations. Well, this string is the exact the opposite of that.
However, it is not "dead" like some of the "control" polys are. It remains quite soft/cushioned. It is just extremely insensitive to the input angle and velocity. It takes any angle and any velocity and smoothes them out. The ball comes out always in the same direction -- the direction of the racquet head. And almost always at the same speed, and the same height over the net. Very unusual.
Surprisingly, I quite like the results -- it produces very reliable response, shot after shot. All variations of racquet angle and speed disappear. The response is straight and linear. It removes any mistakes. My games with it were extremely steady and solid on my part. All mistakes caused by "wild" response from the string are gone and nowhere to be found. For my style, it worked really well, much better, I would say than "wild" or hyper-sensitive strings.
It is not particularly "rewarding" in terms of feel and style.
Obviously, with no feel, feeback and sensitivity, this is not for the subtle / virtuoso style of playing. This is for the "tour" style of playing, were repeatability and reliability is everything.
4) spin is average
It is not as grabby as some top strings over there; but it is not completely smooth and toothless like Silverstring or Topspin Cyberflash. It is in the middle of the spectrum.
5) excellent for flat hitting
I usually do not hit flat. I could never attain reliability / reproducibility with flat shots. They always end up "wild" for me -- either long or in the net, and directionally not controlled either. But this string makes flat shots with a 16x19 racquet absolutely solid. They always go straight and land at the right distance.
Flat shots for me were almost as reliable as my dominant spin-oriented technique. So, for those who have a "wild" racquet they would like to tame, this string will be the one to try. It provides a very different type of taming than using stiff poly or ridiculous tension.
I am stopping here. I will let some others -- flat hitters -- to comment further. I would almost recommend it, but I know such people also prefer 18x20 racquets, an in that configuration, the power of the stringbed will be even lower than it is now, in my TC97 16x19 ( which is a power-style racquet, with 16x19).
So, very interesting offering. Produces very smoothed uniform response across the entire spectrum. Very quiet. In a word, zitto e buono.
Were you testing 1.23 or 1.28?Mayami Tour Hex Review
Short version: zitto e buono ( quiet and well-behaved )
Long version:
Strung it in Angell TC97 16x19 (with blue grommets, of course) at 47 lbs. This string has a few unique characteristics:
1) very low power
On first hitting, all shots were landing 5-6 feet shorter than usual, and in subsequent days, it did not gain much either. I had to adjust - a lot.
2) very quiet
The string is very quiet. Does not produce any reverberations or sounds. Very atypical of any string.
It also does not convey any feedback. For those who like to "feel" the ball on the strings, this string is not for you.
3) smoothing effects
This quality is very hard to describe. Let's call it "smoothing" for now. You probably know what "responsive" is: you change a little here and little there, and the racquet responds immediately, amplifying those variations. Well, this string is the exact the opposite of that.
However, it is not "dead" like some of the "control" polys are. It remains quite soft/cushioned. It is just extremely insensitive to the input angle and velocity. It takes any angle and any velocity and smoothes them out. The ball comes out always in the same direction -- the direction of the racquet head. And almost always at the same speed, and the same height over the net. Very unusual.
Surprisingly, I quite like the results -- it produces very reliable response, shot after shot. All variations of racquet angle and speed disappear. The response is straight and linear. It removes any mistakes. My games with it were extremely steady and solid on my part. All mistakes caused by "wild" response from the string are gone and nowhere to be found. For my style, it worked really well, much better, I would say than "wild" or hyper-sensitive strings.
It is not particularly "rewarding" in terms of feel and style.
Obviously, with no feel, feeback and sensitivity, this is not for the subtle / virtuoso style of playing. This is for the "tour" style of playing, were repeatability and reliability is everything.
4) spin is average
It is not as grabby as some top strings over there; but it is not completely smooth and toothless like Silverstring or Topspin Cyberflash. It is in the middle of the spectrum.
5) excellent for flat hitting
I usually do not hit flat. I could never attain reliability / reproducibility with flat shots. They always end up "wild" for me -- either long or in the net, and directionally not controlled either. But this string makes flat shots with a 16x19 racquet absolutely solid. They always go straight and land at the right distance.
Flat shots for me were almost as reliable as my dominant spin-oriented technique. So, for those who have a "wild" racquet they would like to tame, this string will be the one to try. It provides a very different type of taming than using stiff poly or ridiculous tensions.
I am stopping here. I will let some others -- flat hitters -- to comment further. I would almost recommend it, but I know such people also prefer 18x20 racquets, an in that configuration, the power of the stringbed will be even lower than it is now, in my TC97 16x19 ( which is a power-style racquet, with 16x19).
So, very interesting offering. Produces very smoothed uniform response across the entire spectrum. Very quiet. In a word, zitto e buono.
Were you testing 1.23 or 1.28?
Mayami Tour Hex Review
Short version: zitto e buono ( quiet and well-behaved )
Long version:
Strung it in Angell TC97 16x19 (with blue grommets, of course) at 47 lbs. This string has a few unique characteristics:
1) very low power
On first hitting, all shots were landing 5-6 feet shorter than usual, and in subsequent days, it did not gain much either. I had to adjust - a lot.
2) very quiet
The string is very quiet. Does not produce any reverberations or sounds. Very atypical of any string.
It also does not convey any feedback. For those who like to "feel" the ball on the strings, this string is not for you.
3) smoothing effects
This quality is very hard to describe. Let's call it "smoothing" for now. You probably know what "responsive" is: you change a little here and little there, and the racquet responds immediately, amplifying those variations. Well, this string is the exact the opposite of that.
However, it is not "dead" like some of the "control" polys are. It remains quite soft/cushioned. It is just extremely insensitive to the input angle and velocity. It takes any angle and any velocity and smoothes them out. The ball comes out always in the same direction -- the direction of the racquet head. And almost always at the same speed, and the same height over the net. Very unusual.
Surprisingly, I quite like the results -- it produces very even and consistent response, shot after shot. All variations of racquet angle and speed disappear. The response is straight and linear. It removes any mistakes. My games with it were extremely steady and solid on my part. All mistakes caused by "wild" response from the string are gone and nowhere to be found. For my style, it worked really well, much better, I would say than "wild" or hyper-sensitive strings.
It is not particularly "rewarding" in terms of feel and style.
Obviously, with no feel, feeback and sensitivity, this is not for the subtle / virtuoso style of playing. This is for the "tour" style of playing, were repeatability and reliability is everything.
4) spin is average
It is not as grabby as some top strings over there; but it is not completely smooth and toothless like Silverstring or Topspin Cyberflash. It is in the middle of the spectrum.
5) excellent for flat hitting
I usually do not hit flat. I could never attain reliability / reproducibility with flat shots. They always end up "wild" for me -- either long or in the net, and directionally not controlled either. But this string makes flat shots with a 16x19 racquet absolutely solid. They always go straight and land at the right distance.
Flat shots for me were almost as reliable as my dominant spin-oriented technique. So, for those who have a "wild" racquet they would like to tame, this string will be the one to try. It provides a very different type of taming than using stiff poly or ridiculous tensions.
I am stopping here. I will let some others -- flat hitters -- to comment further. I would almost recommend it, but I know such people also prefer 18x20 racquets, an in that configuration, the power of the stringbed will be even lower than it is now, in my TC97 16x19 ( which is a power-style racquet, with 16x19).
So, very interesting offering. Produces very smoothed uniform response across the entire spectrum. Very quiet. In a word, zitto e buono.
What racquet are you using ? In frames like radical mp i find 1.25 big spin very good. 1.30 probably in very open patterns like pure aero and you want to keep the launch lowerJust got an email about their summer sale. Great deal. Want to buy a reel of Big Spin but can't remember which version I got as a demo from them. Anyone know the difference between 1.25 and 1.30?
I'm currently using the Clash 100 and will be moving to the Clash 98 as soon as I get my custom color racquets. They're both 16x19. Keeping launch angle lower is something that I would like so it sounds like the 1.30 is the way to go?What racquet are you using ? In frames like radical mp i find 1.25 big spin very good. 1.30 probably in very open patterns like pure aero and you want to keep the launch lower
Sounds like. But i would also look at the current gauge that you are using. Not to change so much perhaps. I like both gauges actually.I'm currently using the Clash 100 and will be moving to the Clash 98 as soon as I get my custom color racquets. They're both 16x19. Keeping launch angle lower is something that I would like so it sounds like the 1.30 is the way to go?
Thanks for the input!
They have never had the 1.30 version in stock. I have been waiting for it since last year but when selecting it, it always says sold out.Just got an email about their summer sale. Great deal. Want to buy a reel of Big Spin but can't remember which version I got as a demo from them. Anyone know the difference between 1.25 and 1.30?
I noticed thatThey have never had the 1.30 version in stock. I have been waiting for it since last year but when selecting it, it always says sold out.
Big Banger Original in that Stick is plush as hell and allows me to absolutely take the cover off the ball with terrific feel. It'll drop in tension but nothing like Alu Power and feels better than 4G, though 4G is nice in this stick as well if you string it in low 40s and maintains tension really well also. I bought a reel of 4G and will experiment with hybrid setups using VS gut along side it. Once I'm through this reel, I'll probably go and get a Big Banger Org. reel, which I used for 10 plus years off and on with Alu Power. 4G works well, but I likely will never deviate from Big Banger Original going forward.Your thread and Jolly’s thread inspired me to document my string journey!
I use a 6.1 95 18x20, which is headlight. I’m just trying to find a string but I don’t know enough to really seek certain strings out over other strings yet. Luxilon I’ve noticed to be preferable over Solinco Hyper G and Kirschbaum Spiky Shark so far.
yap, exactly. The launch is quite neutral with one of the best spin potentials out there. It is soft yet quite low powered (not launchy), most forgiving Mayami string i tested. I played with it for over a week and no issue. I think that it will faster break rather than change the characteristic.Played with Big Spin 1.25 for ~ 45 min yesterday. Pleasantly surprised, given the shape, I expected it to play similarly to a square-shaped string but that wasn't the case at all. I didn't have to adjust to a higher launch angle yet the spin was great. Well-balanced in terms of power/control and I could hit out freely without worrying about balls flying. Seems to be similar in terms of softness as the other Mayami strings I have tested. I like this a lot more than Magic Twist. Durability is a potential concern given the aggressive shape, but if it last 6-8 hours without becoming launchy, it could become a contender for go-to string.
Mayami strings are made in Taiwan if this makes any difference to you ? Big spin is produced in two gauges - 1.25 and 1.30 but recently 1.30 is not available because the production was too small to meet the quantity demanded by people. Some got really frustrated with the waiting process and it looks like they decided to hold for a while with thicker gauges. Probably working on the solution to produce much more strings because they are growing very fast.I wonder if Genesis Twisted Razor (Triangular and twisted string) and Mayami Big Spin are essentially the same string? Twisted Razor comes only in 1.27mm whereas Big Spin only comes in 1.25mm at the moment, but I've played with both and they seem very similar. Soft, good spin generation for polys. Twisted Razor is made in Germany but not sure about Big Spin. Thoughts?
Yea I have been waiting for 1.30 to be available, yes Im on their mailing list, and I did follow all of that temporary suspension of ordering "situation" recently. Didnt know they were made in Taiwan. But any similarities between the two strings?Mayami strings are made in Taiwan if this makes any difference to you ? Big spin is produced in two gauges - 1.25 and 1.30 but recently 1.30 is not available because the production was too small to meet the quantity demanded by people. Some got really frustrated with the waiting process and it looks like they decided to hold for a while with thicker gauges. Probably working on the solution to produce much more strings because they are growing very fast.
By seeing Mayami mailing subscription you can follow their development (and sometimes hot deals) but also it is clear that the owner is following this thread and taking feedback very seriously (sometimes too seriously haha). It's a shame they got banned as its limiting the healthy competition.
Imagine if head or wilson would listen sometimes to people on this board Like a poll :
"One thing you would like to get from new Blade v8 :
a) better quality control
b) stiffer
c) softer
d) thicker beam
btw - it seems Head eventually listened to the people....it took them 6 years 3 racquet cycles.... it was a total nightmare period...
So ye... I fully support brands like Mayami and Tier One because they really care about their customers and they do listen to the public. Customer oriented brands. Same with Angell racquets.
I think Toroline is made in TaiwanYea I have been waiting for 1.30 to be available, yes Im on their mailing list, and I did follow all of that temporary suspension of ordering "situation" recently. Didnt know they were made in Taiwan. But any similarities between the two strings?
sorry, i havent played with the other string. I know they used to be popular like 6 years ago or more....Yea I have been waiting for 1.30 to be available, yes Im on their mailing list, and I did follow all of that temporary suspension of ordering "situation" recently. Didnt know they were made in Taiwan. But any similarities between the two strings?
i first started in the middle of the racquet's recommended tension range, then i experimented from there. You can also ask to see what the string manufacturer's recommended tension is. There are really too many variables for any one correct answerRecommended tension?
I usually go full bed poly at 43lbs whether it's FireWire Boost or TBS.
Stringing up Big Spin mains and Magic Twist crosses tomorrow. Should I aim for 46/40 or how does one go about different tensions when they haven't done so before?
Thanks for such a well-written and thoughful review. My two cents (speaking of the 1.23 gauge) :Mayami Tour Hex Review
Short version: zitto e buono ( quiet and well-behaved )
Long version:
Strung it in Angell TC97 16x19 (with blue grommets, of course) at 47 lbs. This string has a few unique characteristics:
1) very low power
On first hitting, all shots were landing 5-6 feet shorter than usual, and in subsequent days, it did not gain much either. I had to adjust - a lot.
2) very quiet
The string is very quiet. Does not produce any reverberations or sounds. Very atypical of any string.
It also does not convey any feedback. For those who like to "feel" the ball on the strings, this string is not for you.
3) smoothing effects
This quality is very hard to describe. Let's call it "smoothing" for now. You probably know what "responsive" is: you change a little here and little there, and the racquet responds immediately, amplifying those variations. Well, this string is the exact the opposite of that.
However, it is not "dead" like some of the "control" polys are. It remains quite soft/cushioned. It is just extremely insensitive to the input angle and velocity. It takes any angle and any velocity and smoothes them out. The ball comes out always in the same direction -- the direction of the racquet head. And almost always at the same speed, and the same height over the net. Very unusual.
Surprisingly, I quite like the results -- it produces very even and consistent response, shot after shot. All variations of racquet angle and speed disappear. The response is straight and linear. It removes any mistakes. My games with it were extremely steady and solid on my part. All mistakes caused by "wild" response from the string are gone and nowhere to be found. For my style, it worked really well, much better, I would say than "wild" or hyper-sensitive strings.
It is not particularly "rewarding" in terms of feel and style.
Obviously, with no feel, feeback and sensitivity, this is not for the subtle / virtuoso style of playing. This is for the "tour" style of playing, were repeatability and reliability is everything.
4) spin is average
It is not as grabby as some top strings over there; but it is not completely smooth and toothless like Silverstring or Topspin Cyberflash. It is in the middle of the spectrum.
5) excellent for flat hitting
I usually do not hit flat. I could never attain reliability / reproducibility with flat shots. They always end up "wild" for me -- either long or in the net, and directionally not controlled either. But this string makes flat shots with a 16x19 racquet absolutely solid. They always go straight and land at the right distance.
Flat shots for me were almost as reliable as my dominant spin-oriented technique. So, for those who have a "wild" racquet they would like to tame, this string will be the one to try. It provides a very different type of taming than using stiff poly or ridiculous tensions.
I am stopping here. I will let some others -- flat hitters -- to comment further. I would almost recommend it, but I know such people also prefer 18x20 racquets, an in that configuration, the power of the stringbed will be even lower than it is now, in my TC97 16x19 ( which is a power-style racquet, with 16x19).
So, very interesting offering. Produces very smoothed uniform response across the entire spectrum. Very quiet. In a word, zitto e buono.
They gave me two Big Spins and zero Hit Pros in my samplerAfter trying Big Spin mains with different cross strings (Magic Twist, Hit Pro, Ghostwire, Grapplesnake Alpha) I came back to Big Spin full bed. I like the hybrid combos, but I love Big Spin fb!! The sensation of fresh Big Spin is really great and unique! It needs no break-in period, no time to adjust, it is love at first sight! And it was not as difficult to string as expected (this was the first time I strung it myself).
Sounds like a bonus point to me anyway have you tried to reach them and solve this ? I had zero issues with my orders. I even made some adjustments to my „sampler” when i first ordered mineThey gave me two Big Spins and zero Hit Pros in my sampler
I let them know but I do t really mindSounds like a bonus point to me anyway have you tried to reach them and solve this ? I had zero issues with my orders. I even made some adjustments to my „sampler” when i first ordered mine
It is just a bit firmer than TH but as you said wonderful kicking spin!Played with Big Spin 1.25 for ~ 45 min yesterday. Pleasantly surprised, given the shape, I expected it to play similarly to a square-shaped string but that wasn't the case at all. I didn't have to adjust to a higher launch angle yet the spin was great. Well-balanced in terms of power/control and I could hit out freely without worrying about balls flying. Seems to be similar in terms of softness as the other Mayami strings I have tested. I like this a lot more than Magic Twist. Durability is a potential concern given the aggressive shape, but if it last 6-8 hours without becoming launchy, it could become a contender for go-to string.
Thanks for sharing this. I’ve been crossing it with GW. Will have to try full bed. Is it comfortable and what tension do you use?After trying Big Spin mains with different cross strings (Magic Twist, Hit Pro, Ghostwire, Grapplesnake Alpha) I came back to Big Spin full bed. I like the hybrid combos, but I love Big Spin fb!! The sensation of fresh Big Spin is really great and unique! It needs no break-in period, no time to adjust, it is love at first sight! And it was not as difficult to string as expected (this was the first time I strung it myself).
Best mayami strings could be interestingDid anyone try Big Spin mains, Tour Hex crosses?
In theory Mussetti combo is exactly the same. Stiffer string in a crosses (lynx tour 6-sided) and mains hawk touch (or rough i am not sure)Tour Hex has a much higher stiffness. Plus it is not a slippery string. This will up the stiffness and reduce sliding. In short, you will completely neutralize the best qualities of Big Spin.