Wawrinka married???
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What...to go to the city hall takes money??
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Lucky fellows you Canucks are!
It's quite different in Europe though. Civil legaslation is the same, but the eventual outcome is quite different. Okay, too late for me to get into the details...
Is this suppsed to funny or what?
Lucky fellows you Canucks are!
It's quite different in Europe though. Civil legaslation is the same, but the eventual outcome is quite different. Okay, too late for me to get into the details...
The better the lawyer, the better the outcome in a settlement. Yes?
Disgusting that money rules everywear, in everything.
And then they die. That's the irony.
Too much money makes no sense.
clayman2000
Hall of Fame
Of course. It's like that in a LOT of European countries nowadays. And why not, I dare ask.
It's the common thing to do among most of the better educated folks in Europe nowadays. All of the legal consequences dealt with in time. No prob eh. It's called 'common sense' over here.
Sorry didnt realize that. I guess we Canadians are lucky
robertk29a
New User
tooooooo funny FlyingHip..tells better than words.
Sorry didnt realize that. I guess we Canadians are lucky
It's all so stupid,,so, you meet somebody, have a baby, ...blah blah blah...then religion got in the w
ay of the natural scheme scheme of things..............
Pfffffft
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
effervescence
Rookie
Congrats to him! Though he does look a bit scruffy.
clayman2000
Hall of Fame
Even then, i am a more of a marriage first, child second person. But I still think its wrong for a child to be at a disadvantage because of what his parents did, whether right or wrong.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
NotSoSuper
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Stan The Man
antoaneta71
Rookie
that was probably first girlfriend,it easier for young man who are insecure about women to start relation with older women, because they are more mature and have more experience ,so they feel more comfortable with them.
djokovicgonzalez2010
G.O.A.T.
A 1st Gf for a pro athlete at 20 seems pretty unlikely...
Could it be parents encouragement? Who knows.
But she is very careless about contraceptive.
She/he likely wanted a child. Especially she perhaps because she felt the biological clock ticking.
It's their business...and this child will be lucky to be part of a family where both parents are successful and are committed to each other unlike the many who are born into unfortunate situations.
Kudos to them!
It's their business...and this child will be lucky to be part of a family where both parents are successful and are committed to each other unlike the many who are born into unfortunate situations.
Kudos to them!
I’m not saying Wawrinka is not responsible at all. Since you are girl I can understand you want to put the blame on him just as much as on his girlfriend.
But according to antoaneta71 said Wawrinkda’s gf is older therefore more mature and experience, so I would say it’s more responsible from her end. Maybe something like 80/20.
Fee
Legend
Horsesheet. Contraception is the responsibility of the couple, not one or the other. A woman releases one egg every 28 days, a man releases sperm daily. If anything, it should 80/20 for the man, especially if he is emotionally or financially incapable of supporting his sperm when it grows up.
I'm a woman, not a girl.
Maybe she did want a baby and maybe Wawrinka didn’t want one. It’s possible that she fake using contraceptive and TRICK him.
You make it sound like only a man is horny, but that’s far from the truth. You're logic about sperm and egg is lame....it has nothing to do with
RESPONSIBILITY.
Fact is she’s a lot older and should be held more accountable. If the age was reverse, than I can understand.
EDIT: It’s the women who bear a child, therefore they should be more cautious.
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Fee
Legend
Your age argument is lame, neither one of them are children. It is an equally shared responsibility, period. It's not about age at all. If he's not prepared to prevent a pregnancy that he doesn't want, he should keep his pants zipped. Same for her.
None of us knows what happened, perhaps they were intentionally trying to get pregnant, who knows. But its complete BS to blame women for unwanted pregnancies. Condoms are the cheapest and most effective contraception when used correctly and they have no side effects if neither partner is allergic. 80/20 my ***.
At 24 years old, there’s still a lot of growing up to do. And I didn’t blame on her 100%, but she older and wiser, there’s nothing you can dispute that. Plus, she’s the one who’s getting pregnant, not him, so she should be more cautious.
Maybe they both want a baby, or maybe she trick him by getting her pregnant. Yeah, like you said....who knows.
Obvious I think it’s the right decision for them to get marry, but that’s not the point. I just don’t think the baby was plan at the beginning since they are rush to get marry. It’s very likely that they had the baby by accident, and she’s more responsible for the outcome.
Fee
Legend
He's the one who got her pregnant, she didn't get that way by wearing his dirty underwear. If he didn't want to be a father, he could have easily prevented it by wearing a condom regardless of what method of contraception she was using (or tricked him into believing she was using, by your theory). Don't put the blame on the woman simply because she is the one who actually carries the baby, that's medieval thinking. You don't want to be a father, the solution is very simple - CONTROL YOUR OWN DAMN SPERM.
Since you are a girl(umm....I mean women:! you don’t know what is like to be a 24 years old boy. They make poor decision, are easily to get fool, or lure into doing something without realizing that it’s safe/unsafe. And an older women are skillful at luring young men(boy). I bet you she made all the move and was always in control, not Wawrinka.
Ask your husband how it is like at 24, he’ll tell you.
you don’t know what is like to be a 24 years old boy. They make poor decision, are easily to get fool, or lure into doing something without realizing that it’s safe/unsafe. And an older women are skillful at luring young men(boy). I bet you she made all the move and was always in control, not Wawrinka.Ask your husband how it is like at 24, he’ll tell you.
Fee
Legend
Since you are a girl(umm....I mean women:!
Ask your husband how it is like at 24, he’ll tell you.
Any Western male over the age of 17 who went to a decent school knows what sperm is and what it does. Those same males are more than likely to know what a condom is and how to use it. Stop making excuses for Stan (and yourself). He's not an idiot, he was involved with his wife for a few years. He is equally responsible for the existence of this baby now matter how many ways you try to spin it, with whatever personal bitterness or neanderthal upbringing you are coming from.
You see similarities with Mirka because you want to. I don't think she looks like her. She looks more like Irina IMO.
(But Irina is a little prittier)
And stop arguing guys, you can be both right in your own way. It's not crazy to think the baby was not planned, otherwise they wouldn't have married so fast. If you want to have a child before getting married, why don't you stay not married for a longer while? But they (including Stan) might be really happy about this unexpected news, so they decided to get married. We don't know.
And stop arguing guys, you can be both right in your own way. It's not crazy to think the baby was not planned, otherwise they wouldn't have married so fast. If you want to have a child before getting married, why don't you stay not married for a longer while? But they (including Stan) might be really happy about this unexpected news, so they decided to get married. We don't know.
I think Stanley is too young to get marry b/c he still has alot of tennis in him at the age 24. It's perfect for his gf(b/c of her age).
While we have no proof, I strongly believe having the baby was by accident. And I don't think Stanley would get marry this quick if it wasn't for the baby. But anyway, he made the right choice. In the end, I think his gf got a better end of the bargain.
malakas
Banned
I didn't know once you get married you and have babies can't play tennis anymore? First time I hear this.
And I didn't know that a relationship of 4 years is too early.
On the other hand,I do agree that 24 is young to be married but this is my personal opinion based on myself,others may be ready to get married at 18.
First time I hear this.And I didn't know that a relationship of 4 years is too early.
On the other hand,I do agree that 24 is young to be married but this is my personal opinion based on myself,others may be ready to get married at 18.
soyizgood
G.O.A.T.
You see similarities with Mirka because you want to. I don't think she looks like her. She looks more like Irina IMO.(But Irina is a little prittier)
Irina >> Stan's wife. I would be hustling my ass off for Irina. Can't blame Kolya at all!
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
If Stan, was 18 years old and was rushing to marry a woman who was 30 then I would agree with you but I think he's old enough at 24 to make that decision for himself. He's capable of deciding if he should have a child at this point in his career and he knows that it could affect his career and cause him to retire earlier than normal.
I can't say that having a kid at this point in his career seems like the best decision but it's still Stan's choice and if it's good enough for Stan, then it's good enough for me.
I agree with you on the 18 yrs old. However, I think Stanley should focus on his career first. Since he’s only 24, there’s plenty of time for him to settle down later, but unfortunately, tennis is a short career. Plus, a pro tennis player travel a lot, it’s not good to spent so much time away from the baby or forcing them to travel along. Sure, it’s ok to date or get marry, but having a baby at that age is too soon.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Since you are a girl(umm....I mean women:!
Ask your husband how it is like at 24, he’ll tell you.
Let me tell you THIS: some guys are (still) immature at 24, and some are not.
Some guys feel responsibility for their loved ones very early in life, and others never learn. You are acting as if your experience goes for the entire male part of society. Well, that's not true.
How about the possibility these two people love each other a lot and wanted to have a child together, huh? It is possible. It happens.
I didn't know once you get married you and have babies can't play tennis anymore?
Haha. Well I've heard that strange reasoning before - when Federer announced Mirka was pregnant... I don't get it, last time I checked, it was the lady having to give birth will all possible physical adversities, not the guy
.And even then... they sure have enough bucks to get all the help they need.
Funny, how some folks are able to see in the future based on 'how long have they dated'. LOL.
Yep. And others, including me, may never feel ready to get married at all. We're all individual people, folks, what counts for one person might not for another. I'd say Stan and his wife deserve a little less judgement and a bit more respect for their personal choices.
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
Aahh!!!...I didn’t say they don’t love each other. Never.
You maybe right about them wanted a baby BEFORE marriage, but you could also be wrong. In normal circumstance, couple get marry BEFORE having kids. And in my opinion it’s very likely that they had it by accident, which is normal in our society. I don’t think Stan ever planned to get marry at 24, it was due to his gf carelessness on contraceptive. Although I said it many times that they made the right decision to get marry b/c they will be a parent.
I didn't know once you get married you and have babies can't play tennis anymore?
And I didn't know that a relationship of 4 years is too early.
On the other hand,I do agree that 24 is young to be married but this is my personal opinion based on myself,others may be ready to get married at 18.
But the better choice is to focus on tennis first at 24. You can have baby later. It’s not that the biological clock is ticking for a man at such young age.
18? You’re kidding aren’t you?
That’s the age where you are ready for college. The way it works, career comes first, then marriage, but not the other way around. Big mistake!
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
OK, my mistake.
I don't know where you are from, but in a lot of European countries it's nowadays deemed as perfectly normal and ok to have kids before getting married, especially under the 'better educated-middle class and higher'-folks.
It's a cultural thing.
So basically you're saying that Stan has been stupid? :?
I think the opposite, namely that they wanted to have kids very much and realized that Ilham is already 35 (an age after which women's fertility goes down very fast!), so... 'let's get on with the job'.
Cantankersore
Semi-Pro
Dear TMF:
Please stop demonstrating your ignorance.
Sincerely,
Men everywhere
Please stop demonstrating your ignorance.
Sincerely,
Men everywhere
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