and when he did , he was better than anyone right now, apart from the top 3 ...... he was the only one who actually beat federer at a non-clay major at his peak
So what? Is that one win your proof that he is better than anyone other than the top 3 right now? If he was so good why wasn't he able to get to the top 2? Was a baby Rafa stopping him from getting the points to reach that position?
Safin only played his best in a few majors in his whole career, the US open where he beat Sampras and the AO's in 04-05. That's it, the rest of the times he didn't have a huge impact.
he didn't have that much weaponry to trouble fed, but his game was/would be more effective vs the other greats ....
He struggled against Rafa on the faster rebound ace when Rafa was only 18 and he was playing his best, made it to the final in that Aus Open. Yet he would trouble him today? lol ok.
inherent contradiction. Prime/peak roddick is the one who could hit that proper FH .... I can EASILY, and I repeat EASILY, roddick of wimbledon 2004 final, wimbledon 2009 final, USO 2007 QF etc. defeat djoker/nadal at wimbledon or USO ....
The Wim 09 final was Roddicks serve saving his hide, Fed's level was not the same as the past against Roddick and that's why he had a very bad day at the office, yet still won.
roddick blew away rafa with his serve at dubai in 2008 and then outsmarted him in miami 2010 ... how is there any doubt that roddick 'could' win against today's rafa on HC or grass ?
Did you not watch USO last year? Roddick wasn't at his best, but neither was Rafa and look how the match turned out. He could win, but it is doubtful in majors.
and of course pusher roddick was winning against novak 2009-2010 multiple times ... a better roddick would not challenge Novak ( he's better now obviously ) on fast HC or grass ? really ?
You make it sound like Roddick was an unstoppable machine when at his best, just like you make Safin sound the same. They had their moments but there's a reason why Roddick has only 1 major to his name and yes you could say because of Fed, absolutely but Rafa and Novak are no slam slouches these days and they are both mentally stronger than Fed ever was.
Roddick's not crap so don't take it like I'm saying this, just not as good as Fed, Rafa and Djoker, they all have too much game for him. Sure he "could" beat them here and there but as I said in majors that is very doubtful.
yes, nalby underachieved, but doesn't mean he wasn't a threat ....he definitely was, more so than the likes of ferrer, almagro, ( rafa's QF and SF opponents at this RG ) , tipsy, fish etc etc ...
So where was he in 06 AO? Oh that's right choked a 2-0 set lead against Baghdatis. lol. Ferrer's more of a threat than Kiefer and Baghdatis who were Roger's SF and F opponents in that tourney. At least Rafa had to beat one extremely tough opponent to win RG this year, who did Fed beat to win 06AO? clowns.
yes, of course it matters. agassi was floating in the #4 to #10 region in that time period . That is where berdych, murray, ferrer are these days ...
Agassi was good enough to defeat anyone else apart from federer . He was at a similar level as Novak was in 2009-2010, maybe even better at times. Just because federer at that time was better than him , doesn't mean agassi was weak at that time ...
So why did he only make one major final from 2004 onwards? I mean if he could beat ANYONE apart from Fed, why didn't he? Also, if an old Agassi is able to beat all of the upcoming/current top players from the 2003-2006 era doesn't that already tell you how weak that era was? Agassi is a legend but in his mid 30's for him to even be considered a slam threat is enough indication of the point that 2003-2006 was weak.
Let me ask you this, if a mid 30's Agassi was around now would he be a slam threat? If your answer is not no, then you have NFI what you're on about.
both fed and djoker played horribly tbh. and berdych choked at all the crucial moments in the final. He might have done the same vs murray/soderling ... Tsonga has shown he could beat the top players even when they were playing decent tennis. Berdych less so ...
No, disagree there Rafa outplayed him, he didn't choke anything IIRC he wasn't in position to choke because he was behind most of the time. Choking means you are about to win a set or the match but don't through your own stupid errors. This didn't happen at WIM 2010 against Rafa.
Can't call it choking when he didn't even take a set off Rafa for years. What did he choke in all those matches too? Berdych had a very good chance to win WIM 2010 and had he met Murray he almost certainly would've won it Murray would've most likely been the choker in his home final not Berdych.
jeez, what a dumb line of argument ...... federer returns roddick's serve MUCH better than anyone else including rafa, novak ...
lol Novak is the best returner of serve I have ever seen and I've seen quite a few. Rafa also has a pretty good return, broke Federer many more times than anyone else I believe. I'd say they would handle him just fine.
Rafa in 2010 couldn't handle roddick's serve on a slow HC, miami ..... He'd easily beat him on fast HC or grass if roddick were playing well ? LOL !
You like to use one match as a basis for your argument don't you? Let's delve deeper into that Miami match and remember Rafa's form prior to the 2010 clay season wasn't good at all. He had doubt on himself and his ability at the time which is why Roddick was able to capitalize on Rafa's low confidence, he lost the week before to Ljubicic as well which further proves my point.
as far as djoker is concerned, in 2009-2010 , he couldn't handle pusher roddick ... he doesn't handle roddick's serve that well either ... he'd win on clay obv, more times on slow HC, but it'd be very close on fast HC and I'd favour roddick on grass ...
LOl @ mentioning the incredible offensive skills of novak and rafa when the indirect comparison is with federer who's miles better at offensive tennis than either of them ....
He is better, but no he is not miles better offensively. You don't just judge offensive tennis based on winners statistics, you need to base it on how they can dictate play and Rafa and Novak have elite skills when it comes to dictating rallies. Fed cannot hit a decent offensive bh consistently in any slam against these 2.
If Fed has to defend off the bh side the point is almost guaranteed over for him. This is not the case for Rafa and Djoker who can smash the bh either cc or dtl for a winner on a consistent basis and if it isn't a winner it puts their opponent in an awkward position effectively turning defense into offense. You don't have a clue about this sport if you think Fed can be offensive of the bh side like Nole or Rafa.