"Sloane Stephens blasts Serena Williams"

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
Really? It was only a few, short years ago (2001) when Hewitt unleashed his incredibly offensive, racist tirade at Blake and a USO official. Times have not changed.

I doubt that, as Hewitt's behavior is arguably the worst display ever to soil a tennis court, yet he was allowed to continue playing the event.

Serena's still playing is she not. Listen I don't like her and you do. That's ok, but don't pretend like she hasn't given plenty of reason for people not to like her. Defend her against false claims and things of the like, but don't be a crybaby when someone doesn't like her. You're not changing anyone's opinion.

As a matter of fact, I've liked Venus for the majority of her career.

TMF · May 7, 2013

Rabbit said:
The announcers made a big to do at the Aussie prior to the match about how Serena had taken Sloane "under her wing" and was mentoring her.

It was a big mistake that Sloane fell for it(sucked in). She should never accept Serena as her mentor. But it's too late, only to find out later that serena ditched her after the 2013 AO.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
Serena's still playing is she not. Listen I don't like her and you do. That's ok, but don't pretend like she hasn't given plenty of reason for people not to like her. Defend her against false claims and things of the like, but don't be a crybaby when someone doesn't like her. You're not changing anyone's opinion.

As a matter of fact, I've liked Venus for the majority of her career.

Serena has achieved much more and is still playing actively. Obviously she is the one that someone like Sloane will have friction with.

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Serena has achieved much more and is still playing actively. Obviously she is the one that someone like Sloane will have friction with.

That's true, but that's why I said "most" of Venus's career. She still has 7 slams. Not just today where she struggles with Sjogren's (sp?) syndrome.

TMF · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Serena has achieved much more and is still playing actively. Obviously she is the one that someone like Sloane will have friction with.

It's not about achievements but about CHARACTER.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

TMF said:
It's not about achievements but about CHARACTER.

Less achievements: character is not publicly tested.

I have never been accused of abusing Federer during a match, for example.

Relinquis · May 7, 2013

let's just clarify one thing... Sloane Stephens is not, a "Baby Serena" or anything like that...

Their style of play and their results are worlds apart.

I can sometimes let the "Baby Fed" comment about Dimitrov slide because it's clear that Grigor has modeled his style of play on Roger and they are both aggressive all court players with quite a bit of flair... This is not the case with Sloane. She's just lucky that she has gotten likened to Williams.

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

TMF said:
It was a big mistake that Sloane fell for it(sucked in). She should never accept Serena as her mentor.

Enough with the lies. In THIS thread, it has been stated that both never cliamed ANY of your "mentor" crap.

Again, you lie to keep your hatred going, and do not have an ounce of evidence to support your posts.

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
Defend her against false claims and things of the like,

...which is the heart of your premise that certain kinds of behavior are in the past. I've illustrated that your comment is not true (Hewitt), so you--or anyone else--cannot pretend to be shocked, as worst acts have occured in recent years...unless you place behavior into compartments of denial or alleged ignorance based on the person involved, which appears to be the case here.

Either you recognize it all, or you are operating with an agenda.

70後 · May 7, 2013

Serena has responded. In a very mature, adult and professional way indeed.

Tcbtennis · May 7, 2013

This is how I see it. Serena was justly defaulted from the 2009 U.S. Open when she verbally abused the lines woman. She was fined the highest amount ever in tennis. She, on ocassion, has been less than gracious in defeat but it is absolutely true that a good number of her losses are a function of her not playing well rather than her getting beaten. She and Roger Federer are not afraid to say this rather than the usual canned answers. They both get a lot of derision from their statements but Serena gets it more than Roger.

Also it seems to me that like a lot of sports fans seem to give free passes to their favorite players. Kobe Bryant (accused of ****), Ben Rothlisberger (had goons bring him drunk girls to ****), Michael Vick (tortured and killed dogs).And the list is long, long, long. Nothing and I mean nothing Serena has ever done has come anywhere close to the horrible acts committed by some of the athletes people cheer for. A lot of people blame racism for the apparent dislike of Serena and I think some of that is true. But I think that sexism is a bigger part. They expect the women to be gentle and sweet and nice. Serena is anything but gentle, sweet or nice on the tennis court. She is a fierce warrior on the court and I love it.

Despite being booed for the majority of the Indian Wells match when she was 19, Serena persevered and won. And stood strong waving to the booing crowd probably thinking, "F**k you all". That's a champion. That's a fighter. She has heart. Most of the WTA would have collapsed like a house of cards in that situation. On the other hand Sloane Stephens at age 20 is discussing not getting an autograph when she was 12. She is upset that she got de-friended from Twitter. Talk about having messed up priorities. Sloan doesn't have fight and she doesn't have a champion's mind.

TMF · May 7, 2013

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
Enough with the lies. In THIS thread, it has been stated that both never cliamed ANY of your "mentor" crap.

Again, you lie to keep your hatred going, and do not have an ounce of evidence to support your posts.

Enough with your blind love for Serena.

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

THUNDERVOLLEY said:
...which is the heart of your premise that certain kinds of behavior are in the past. I've illustrated that your comment is not true (Hewitt), so you--or anyone else--cannot pretend to be shocked, as worst acts have occured in recent years...unless you place behavior into compartments of denial or alleged ignorance based on the person involved, which appears to be the case here.

Either you recognize it all, or you are operating with an agenda.

Sure I recognize it. Hewitt is/was a hothead, but as I said I've liked Venus for the larger part of her career. I'm white and I have black friends. I personally don't hate Serena because she's successful or black, but I can't speak for everybody. There are other reasons I don't like her, and no I'm not listing them, and yes there are a few. I'm not arguing with you anymore. I don't like her. End of story.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

Sharapova came out now and indirectly supported Serena. She said she does not go out of the way to make friends in the locker room and just tries to achieve.

Backbored · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Sharapova came out now and indirectly supported Serena. She said she does not go out of the way to make friends in the locker room and just tries to achieve.

Now that’s a shocker. :shock:

Soianka · May 7, 2013

Sloane Stephens: 'Guilty of being naive. Much respect 4 @serenawilliams , a champ & the GOAT. We spoke, we're good.

Sloane's a liar.

TMF · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Sharapova came out now and indirectly supported Serena. She said she does not go out of the way to make friends in the locker room and just tries to achieve.

source/link ?

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

Soianka said:
Sloane's a liar.

And how do you know that?

Soianka · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
And how do you know that?

Because I can read.

She claims she is good friends with Serena and the Williams Sisters are her favorites.

Then in March Sloane says the Williams Sisters are not her favorite players and she doesn't like them and hasn't liked them since she was 12.

Clearly both statements cannot be true.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

TMF said:
source/link ?

Saw it pop up on tennis.com, but as is usual these days with dynamic contexts, I couldn't find it again in the same place.

Life has become too complicated.

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

Soianka said:
Because I can read.

She claims she is good friends with Serena and the Williams Sisters are her favorites.

Then in March Sloane says the Williams Sisters are not her favorite players and she doesn't like them and hasn't liked them since she was 12.

Clearly both statements cannot be true.

And how did that have to do with the quote you posted?

Backbored · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Sharapova came out now and indirectly supported Serena. She said she does not go out of the way to make friends in the locker room and just tries to achieve.

And then she went on to say…

“So it was nice to see that she spoke honestly about it. I think people have different perceptions of different athletes. It’s nice that someone spoke up about how they feel.”

I’m not sure how supportive this is.

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

TMF said:
Enough with your blind love for Serena.

Translation: you are such a hate monger that you will not admit you lied about the fake "mentor" story which both sides debunked.

Keep digging that hole; its not like you have any solid ground to stand on in any matter.

Backbored · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Saw it pop up on tennis.com, but as is usual these days with dynamic contexts, I couldn't find it again in the same place.

Life has become too complicated.

I found two sources for the remarks. But I’m not sure if it’s okay to post the links on this site.

TPN: One more thing, Yesterday an interview was released and Sloane Stephens was trash talking Serena Williams. I’m sure you don’t care about that. Is there any animosity between the lower players and the top players? Have you ever had any bad experiences in the locker room or wherever?

Maria Sharapova: “No, I mean, I don’t really hide any feelings too much. I think everyone knows this is my job here. When I’m on the courts or when I’m on the court playing, I’m a competitor and I want to beat every single person whether they’re in the locker room or across the net.
“So I’m not the one to strike up a conversation about the weather and know that in the next few minutes I have to go and try to win a tennis match. I’m a pretty competitive girl. I say my hellos, but I’m not sending any players flowers as well.

“So it was nice to see that she spoke honestly about it. I think people have different perceptions of different athletes. It’s nice that someone spoke up about how they feel.”

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

Soianka said:
Because I can read.

She claims she is good friends with Serena and the Williams Sisters are her favorites.

Then in March Sloane says the Williams Sisters are not her favorite players and she doesn't like them and hasn't liked them since she was 12.

Clearly both statements cannot be true.

Which makes her a liar, and at this point, anyone supporting her do so because of their own agenda of blood hatred of the Williams family.

Soianka · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
And how did that have to do with the quote you posted?

What?

You asked me how I know she is a liar. I explained.

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

Soianka said:
What?

You asked me how I know she is a liar. I explained.

Yes, but the quote you posted before you said she was a liar didn't make sense. She said they spoke, and that they were on good terms, and you called her a liar.

TMF · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
Connors and McEnroe are not valid comparisons since times have changed. If Federer or Nadal or Djokovic went around doing what Connors and McEnroe did these days they'd get roasted over the coals make no mistake.

I can't say I like Serenea tbh. Her attitude does rub me the wrong way, and her supporters do seem to overlook her more glaring faults. In contrast to other more "likeable" people she just hasn't given me any reason over the years to like her at all.

Having said that, this is childish from Stephens. Why worry about being defriended from Twitter and BBM?

I can't stand Serena because the way she treats other people badly. What's more annoying is some of her fans defend her endlessly as if she's never done anything wrong and is a noble person. Either her opponent, umpire, line judge, tournament director/official, etc. are wrong.

Soianka · May 7, 2013

Steve0904 said:
Yes, but the quote you posted before you said she was a liar didn't make sense. She said they spoke, and that they were on good terms, and you called her a liar.

I posted the tweet since it was new and no one else posted it here yet.

I made a separate comment about my general feeling about Sloane being a liar.

Hope you can understand

jones101 · May 7, 2013

Serena asked to day about Sloane 'Mind Blown' Stevens, Takes the High Road.

“I don’t really know. I don’t have many thoughts. I’m a big Sloane Stephens fan and always have been. I’ve always said that I think she can be the best in the world. I’ll always continue to think that and always be rooting for her.

“So I really just always wish her ‑ and anyone, really, especially from America the best. We don’t have that many American players, so it’s always exciting to see so many young players doing so well.”

Also Sloane is a major fake IMO. Here are some quotes butkissing her over the last 2 months from Miami & FED Cup AFTER her ESPN interview was taken.

Miami

Q. Probably tired of answering these questions, but you're supposed to play Venus today, and when you were in Australia and you played Serena there has been a lot of comparisons. Is that sort of overblown how much you have looked up to them, or is that accurate?
SLOANE STEPHENS: I mean, I definitely ‑‑ obviously Venus and Serena are great inspirations to kids, and especially to American girls in the sport. Definitely it was a little bit blown out of proportion, but obviously looked up to them because they are amazing athletes and great tennis players.
But I think ‑‑ it's kind of died off a little bit now, but it's definitely they have always been great inspirations, not only to me but to everyone.

Fed Cup

Q. Sloane, talk about what you learned from Venus and Serena and being around them.
SLOANE STEPHENS: (Laughter.) A lot of things. Obviously they're two of the greatest players to ever play tennis. We just have fun.
We just‑‑ I mean, I don't know. I love being around them. They're really good people. Just little things I can't tell you because then I would be letting out all the secrets.
So I'll just keep it to myself for now.

All this really stated when Sloane couldn't get an autograph when she was 12 when the WS were playing FedCup.

'The interview peaks when Stephens recounts an incident from when she was 12, the first time she had seen Venus and Serena play in Delay Beach during Fed Cup. Her mom took Stephens and her brother to the tie to see the sisters play, and the family waited to try and get autographs.'

“…I waited all day. They walked by three times and never signed our posters…I hung it up for a while. I was, like, devastated because they didn’t sign it, whatever, and then after that I was over it. I found a new player to like because I didn’t like them anymore.”

She needs to get overherself and stop acting like a baby. Trashing someone she idolised publicly because she didn't sign her autograph 8 years ago and unfollowed her on Twitter. This Bish needs to realise the 'Mean Girls' mentality is for high school, there no Regina in this incident.

OH

and it seems all the NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE MEDIA FOR HER CLASSLESS COMMENTS have made Sloane backtrack.

Sloane Stephens

@sloanetweets Guilty of being naive. Much respect 4 @serenawilliams , a champ & the GOAT. We spoke, we're good. ONWARD! #lifelessons

https://twitter.com/sloanetweets/status/331831544744398850

She knew she was talking reckless and foolishly and has apologised.
Media, Social media, fans, (and I bet WTA chiefs) alike gave her stick for this. I hope she learns to keep her mouth zipped and focus on her tennis.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

BreakPoint said:
ROTFLMAO!!! :lol:

Or maybe Roger and Serena versus Grigor and Sloane? The originals versus the 2.0 versions?

Baby Fed and Baby Serena!

sureshs · May 7, 2013

Looks like Sloane is the loser here.

I don't see why Serena should be not be upset about losing. As long as she did not say anything bad about Sloane, it seems quite natural to me. Fed never got along with Nadal and Djokovic, till he decided to embrace the inevitable (Nadal). Top players have big egos, and don't like to lose.

That is what Sharapova is saying. If you are a happy loser, you would be like the players who lost to Federer as they went into the match announcing how great he was. Nadal and Djokovic did not do that (well, Nadal did it as per his plan with Toni) so they were able to win.

Serena has every right to be upset and distance herself from someone who bothers her. Why is there any obligation to listen to anybody's tweets?

Francis27 · May 7, 2013

They have made up it says on Sloane's twitter but i doubt it

heftylefty · May 7, 2013

Allow me to translate Ms. Stephens' Tweet:

I'm so sorry Ms. Williams...please don't beat me as if my name is Maria. I've already forgotten my win over you...just look at my results.

djokovicgonzalez2010 · May 7, 2013

I like this. Anyone who dislikes Serena, I like

sureshs · May 7, 2013

Backbored said:
And then she went on to say…

I’m not sure how supportive this is.

That is why I said "indirectly" supported

Backbored · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
That is why I said "indirectly" supported

Like I said I had a hard time figuring out what Maria meant.

sureshs · May 7, 2013

TMF said:
have said Serena was mentoring her.

What was the extent of this mentoring? I would not be surprised if commentators amplified this a little or Mary Jo the Fed Cup captain pitched in, to create a feeling of camaraderie between old and new on her team. Commentators are always looking for the personal angle, and Serena sells. If Serena ran into Sloane (figuratively speaking) a couple of times and said "Hang in there, girl" is it mentoring? Was it serious advice that was given about life in tennis or technical issues?

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

sureshs said:
Looks like Sloane is the loser here.

I don't see why Serena should be not be upset about losing. As long as she did not say anything bad about Sloane, it seems quite natural to me. Fed never got along with Nadal and Djokovic, till he decided to embrace the inevitable (Nadal). Top players have big egos, and don't like to lose.

Technically, few like to lose, but contrary to the baseless accusations made by others, Serena has not committed any act against Stephens as a response to AO13. Serena understood that she was injured in that match, so it was on Stephens to take the high road as a lucky "winner."

Apparently, she could not leave well enough alone, so months later, here comes the Twitter/SI fiction, and now that it has blown up in her face, all she has left is a quickly sinking tennis career. Oh--and the support of those with a similar agenda.

Why is there any obligation to listen to anybody's tweets?

We live in the idiotic social media / entertainment age, where--for some reason--everyone believes their voice must be heard/accepted. To believe that the "friending" or "unfriending" someone somehow means anything to real life just speaks to the childish, desperate need for attention / faction support instead of people simply living their own lives.

SandVolley · May 7, 2013

Lebron James turns off his cell phone during the playoffs.

There's a lesson in there for all the tennis pros.

Soianka · May 7, 2013

heftylefty said:
Allow me to translate Ms. Stephens' Tweet:

I'm so sorry Ms. Williams...please don't beat me as if my name is Maria. I've already forgotten my win over you...just look at my results.

LOL

........

rajah84 · May 7, 2013

Sloane Stephens sounds like a twelve year old head case...not a good sign for the future of American tennis.

Steve0904 · May 7, 2013

Soianka said:
I posted the tweet since it was new and no one else posted it here yet.

I made a separate comment about my general feeling about Sloane being a liar.

Hope you can understand

Cool. Sounds good.

Lukhas · May 7, 2013

heftylefty said:
Allow me to translate Ms. Stephens' Tweet:

I'm so sorry Ms. Williams...please don't beat me as if my name is Maria. I've already forgotten my win over you...just look at my results.

That's mostly what I understood. Not sure if it's gonna work though. If Williams can breadstick and bagel or/and win 10 games in a row playing subpar against the world number 2, I fear what may happen to Stephens... Will need a good chunck of kryptonite.

Relinquis · May 7, 2013

rajah84 said:
Sloane Stephens sounds like a twelve year old head case...not a good sign for the future of American tennis.

Serena has a few good year in her still...

Relinquis · May 7, 2013

jones101 said:
[...]
Sloane Stephens

@sloanetweets Guilty of being naive. Much respect 4 @serenawilliams , a champ & the GOAT. We spoke, we're good. ONWARD! #lifelessons

https://twitter.com/sloanetweets/status/331831544744398850

She knew she was talking reckless and foolishly and has apologised.
Media, Social media, fans, (and I bet WTA chiefs) alike gave her stick for this. I hope she learns to keep her mouth zipped and focus on her tennis.

LOL... she doesn't have the backbone to stick up for her beliefs... She should take a cue from Gulbis, Verdasco and others who back up their trash talk with at least competition on court.

If she thinks her tennis is of the right level she should prove it... Oh, wait... her comment weren't tennis related, they were about being popular.

my bad, sigh...

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

Relinquis said:
LOL... she doesn't have the backbone to stick up for her beliefs... She should take a cue from Gulbis, Verdasco and others who back up their trash talk with at least competition on court.

If she thinks her tennis is of the right level she should prove it... Oh, wait... her comment weren't tennis related, they were about being popular.

my bad, sigh...

As noted earlier, this backfired on the wannabe character assassin Stephens big time. Now, she looks like an immature manipilator who spends more time on social media than her so-called game.

She deserves every second of the boomeranged disaster she launched.

AngieB · May 7, 2013

Serena Williams just taught Sloane Stephens a lesson in how to respond when someone throws shade your way. Teach these children.

AngieB

heftylefty · May 7, 2013

Relinquis said:
LOL... she doesn't have the backbone to stick up for her beliefs... She should take a cue from Gulbis, Verdasco and others who back up their trash talk with at least competition on court.

If she thinks her tennis is of the right level she should prove it... Oh, wait... her comment weren't tennis related, they were about being popular.

my bad, sigh...

Dude, I was thinking the same thing. How badass would agree be if she said " Yeah, I said it...And?"

While I've made fun of her comments, I could respect standing behind your words.

THUNDERVOLLEY · May 7, 2013

Yeah, but if you take the "Yeah, I said it" road when it was clear she was in the wrong, then it the damage lasts longer.

Being known more for her Twitter nonsense (going forward) is not going to do her career any favors.

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