1HBH vs 2HBH racquet poll

[Deleted member 742196]

Hey all you recreational players.

I'm creating this poll because I'm gosh darned confused about the lighter end of racquet spectrum. For sure, whipping that forehand is awesome with the lighter, modern frames. But for my 1HBH, I can't seem to go anywhere near these frames. Is it just me? Or does the 1HBH tend to need that additional heft/stability at our rec levels as we generally don't have the racquet head speeds of the really high end players.

For purposes of establishing the above, I'm demarking 320g/11.3oz [unstrung] as the line between heavy and light.

When you look at most of the pros on tour with 1HBH, they do have a tendency for heavier/control based rackets. What about at our rec levels?

Personal Theory
I've a sneaky suspicion that most of us 1HBH'ers here would be on the heavier side, irrespective of gender.

 

[Shroud]

Hey all you recreational players.

I'm creating this poll because I'm gosh darned confused about the lighter end of racquet spectrum. For sure, whipping that forehand is awesome with the lighter, modern frames. But for my 1HBH, I can't seem to go anywhere near these frames. Is it just me? Or does the 1HBH tend to need that additional heft/stability at our rec levels as we generally don't have the racquet head speeds of the really high end players.

For purposes of establishing the above, I'm demarking 320g/11.3oz [unstrung] as the line between heavy and light.

When you look at most of the pros on tour with 1HBH, they do have a tendency for heavier/control based rackets. What about at our rec levels?

Personal Theory
I've a sneaky suspicion that most of us 1HBH'ers here would be on the heavier side, irrespective of gender.

Yep heavier is a must

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Yep heavier is a must

I'm asking because I'm in a bit of a pickle at this moment; my FH is moving towards more of a modern variety, new frames like the DR98 seem to work well for me - 1HBH however is god awful (unstable, lacking penetration and feel pushed back) with these.

Wondering if I'm unique in this respect, and if not, what adjustments will I need to make?

 

[Shroud]

I'm asking because I'm in a bit of a pickle at this moment; my FH is moving towards more of a modern variety, new frames like the DR98 seem to work well for me - 1HBH however is god awful (unstable, lacking penetration and feel pushed back) with these.

Wondering if I'm unique in this respect, and if not, what adjustments will I need to make?

Same thing here. But there are pros hitting a modern stroke with high swing weights so do what is best for you

 

[joohan]

Go with lighter and improve your backhand or go with heavier and improve your forehand along with core strength and overall fitness.

I tried DR98 and I think it works very well for one hander stock. Lead at 3/9 is the best way to start if you don't want to switch frames. I should have a chance to hit with DR98 again in a couple of days. I'll focus on this and share my thoughts.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Go with lighter and improve your backhand or go with heavier and improve your forehand along with core strength and overall fitness.

I tried DR98 and I think it works very well for one hander stock. Lead at 3/9 is the best way to start if you don't want to switch frames. I should have a chance to hit with DR98 again in a couple of days. I'll focus on this and share my thoughts.

Haha, I like your summary of the issue I'm facing:

Lighter/improve the backhand OR
Heavier/improve the forehand

Thanks Joohan. This helps.

As you tweak that DR98 let me know how you get along with it on serve.

 

[heninfan99]

I think Justine Henin used a Wilson Hyper Hammer 5.3 stretch with even or slightly head heavy balance. IIRC still a relatively light racquet after customization and handled Serena's power.

It depends on the player and what they're used to. There's no single answer but looking at swingweight might help you.

Hey all you recreational players.

I'm creating this poll because I'm gosh darned confused about the lighter end of racquet spectrum. For sure, whipping that forehand is awesome with the lighter, modern frames. But for my 1HBH, I can't seem to go anywhere near these frames. Is it just me? Or does the 1HBH tend to need that additional heft/stability at our rec levels as we generally don't have the racquet head speeds of the really high end players.

For purposes of establishing the above, I'm demarking 320g/11.3oz [unstrung] as the line between heavy and light.

When you look at most of the pros on tour with 1HBH, they do have a tendency for heavier/control based rackets. What about at our rec levels?

Personal Theory
I've a sneaky suspicion that most of us 1HBH'ers here would be on the heavier side, irrespective of gender.

 

[sportmac]

Heavy for my OHBH which is solid and my best shot, heavy for my forehand which rivals twerking for amount of crazy motion going on. I need that weight to help calm it down.

 

[TennisManiac]

As heavy as you can handle while still being able to produce high racquet head speed.

 

[2HBH-DTL]

back when i used a 1 hander, it was an absolute must to hit a 1 hander with a heavy frame. I'm talking at least around 12.5 oz for me anyway to get good plow behind the shot. it was indeed magical at times. i have since switched to my 2 hander and i love it even more. 12.5 oz yonex duel g 97 330 and i can get pretty good power off my 2 handed wing now.

 

[QuentinFederer]

I have a 1HBH and use a 370g Wilson 6.1

 

[topspn]

I had to get used to the timing a bit. I moved down in weight to 310grams 9HL but with SW 330 and my 1hbh adapted and a bit more forgiving

 

[Nickzor]

For me (life long 1 hander), I've always needed a heavy racquet to hit a good 1 hander, seriously whenever I have a racquet between 300-330 grams I just can't hit a good 1 hander, The racquet I use which is a Ncode sixone 95 weighs 355g and out of all my racquets which range from 315g to 355g, this is the one that I can hit the best 1 handers with, just personal preference for me, anything too light, I lack plow through and don't feel confident just going for kill shots off the backhand, also I tend to hit a lot more accurately with a smaller head size off the backhand wing, 90-97, whenever I use a spare racquet which is 100 head size I can never hit off the backhand as well

 

[Deleted member 742196]

I had to get used to the timing a bit. I moved down in weight to 310grams 9HL but with SW 330 and my 1hbh adapted and a bit more forgiving

What frame might this be?

 

[mikeeeee]

DR98 works great with my 1HBH. Comes in around 12.2oz. NEEDS A LEATHER GRIP

 

[topspn]

What frame might this be?

Angell TC95 and TC100

 

[joohan]

Haha, I like your summary of the issue I'm facing:

Lighter/improve the backhand OR
Heavier/improve the forehand

Thanks Joohan. This helps.

As you tweak that DR98 let me know how you get along with it on serve.

Reminds me of one of Tolkiens quotes from Lord of the Rings: "never ask an elf for advice for he'll tell you both yes and no".

The DR98 is not mine so I won't get chance to use lead tape but I'll try to assess it the best way I can.

 

[Dartagnan64]

I think its funny that 75% of respondents are 1 handers and 90% of pro players use 2HBH's. Interesting disconnect between rec players and pros. Must be the Fed/Sampras effect.

Anyways, for my 2HBH what I really prefer is a extended length frame. That gives me added leverage for the shot. This also tends to up the SW which is fine with me.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

I think its funny that 75% of respondents are 1 handers and 90% of pro players use 2HBH's. Interesting disconnect between rec players and pros. Must be the Fed/Sampras effect.

Anyways, for my 2HBH what I really prefer is a extended length frame. That gives me added leverage for the shot. This also tends to up the SW which is fine with me.

I think it is just 1 handers are more interested in this poll.. Me I need mass, there is no substitute for it with a 1 hander.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

I think its funny that 75% of respondents are 1 handers and 90% of pro players use 2HBH's. Interesting disconnect between rec players and pros. Must be the Fed/Sampras effect.

Anyways, for my 2HBH what I really prefer is a extended length frame. That gives me added leverage for the shot. This also tends to up the SW which is fine with me.

Glad you chimed in, there was a reason I included 2H'ers. It is my contention you guys have a broader variety of options when it comes to racquets. We seem to be glued to heavier frames because of that 1HBH

This might be relevant for those of us shortlisting frames. The past few weeks I've been more open minded to some of the highly reviewed modern sticks: DR98's, Aero Pro Tour's and PS97S's. All great for the forehand but for that 1H they seem (for me, and apparently some others that have chimed in), to be too light/unstable at point of contact.

*PS97S was the least troublesome of the above three on the BH, probably the higher swing weight and less headlight balance.

I think it is just 1 handers are more interested in this poll.. Me I need mass, there is no substitute for it with a 1 hander.

I should probably have done a better job in the description, would like to have more data from the 2H'ers to confirm the theory.

 

[tribesmen]

Tennis is not so popular as used to be, and pros are in their twenties (average), but rec players in forties plus. I assume also tt forum members are not puppies anymore, on average

 

[Imago]

The most beautiful rec 1HBH I see nearby is being executed with PS 100L...

 

[Deleted member 742196]

The most beautiful rec 1HBH I see nearby is being executed with PS 100L...

Yep, it's something I'm wondering about as well. A few 1H'ers above responded with sub 320g, I'm curious what these players are using, as well as their general level of tennis.

Johan touched upon it somewhere in the above, perhaps I need that heavier frame because my BH is used to the supporting weight/heft/stability of a heavy frame?

Recently, I've been thinking I'm perhaps a little too focused on control, sacrificing power. An effective/ fluid swing and good biomechanics should be all you need to properly hit a tennis ball, it's weight/force/energy is nothing compared to the racquet and your body behind it, right?

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Anyone on these boards have exhaustive data on what the 1HBH pros use? Female and male. Present and past. What did Henin use? Graf?

I'm also curious how many of the 2HBH pros use 320+ frames.

If it's true heavier/lighter frames would primarily be relevant for the 1H'ers, why the F did nobody tell me these past three years? Seriously, you'd think such a thing would preface all the racquet reviews and threads. How have I missed such an obvious truism in tennis?

 

[Matthew Lee]

Idk about the 1HBH players, but I think as a 2HBH player, a heaver frame is actually quite nice unless your back swing is extra. By that I mean if your back swing is quite extensive, a heavy racket won't do as well as a light racket in that regard. I have a Murray-Nishikori blend in a backhand, but lately, due to lower back problems, I've been slicing quite a lot.

 

[Shroud]

Anyone on these boards have exhaustive data on what the 1HBH pros use? Female and male. Present and past. What did Henin use? Graf?

I'm also curious how many of the 2HBH pros use 320+ frames.

If it's true heavier/lighter frames would primarily be relevant for the 1H'ers, why the F did nobody tell me these past three years? Seriously, you'd think such a thing would preface all the racquet reviews and threads. How have I missed such an obvious truism in tennis?

No onewants to hear they need a heavy stick. Its so counter what the racquet manufacturers are saying and no one looks into what the pros are using. Heck there are people who think Nadal uses a 1/4 grip but he doesn't, etc

Anyhow i told a guy to day with a one hander he should use a heavier racquet for his one hander and he just looked at me like i was nuts...

Sureshs knows everything about everything so maybe he will chime in

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Idk about the 1HBH players, but I think as a 2HBH player, a heaver frame is actually quite nice unless your back swing is extra. By that I mean if your back swing is quite extensive, a heavy racket won't do as well as a light racket in that regard. I have a Murray-Nishikori blend in a backhand, but lately, due to lower back problems, I've been slicing quite a lot.

Actually it isn't so much the backswing, it's that forward swing. All of us understand there's an element of "throwing" the racquet into the ball and modern frames work very nicely for this - but for a 1HBH I think very few of us rec players learn how to do this effectively. With a heavy frame it's often enough to redirect/position the ball with a controlled forward swing.

I think Joohan above summarized it nicely - lighter racquet for 1H necessitates an improvemet in your technique on that side.

Great to have the additional weight of a racquet behind your contact, but shouldn't be at the compensation of your swing.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

No onewants to hear they need a heavy stick. Its so counter what the racquet manufacturers are saying and no one looks into what the pros are using. Heck there are people who think Nadal uses a 1/4 grip but he doesn't, etc

Anyhow i told a guy to day with a one hander he should use a heavier racquet for his one hander and he just looked at me like i was nuts...

Sureshs knows everything about everything so maybe he will chime in

Damn. It's the demographic of us rec players that get on places like this, and YouTube, to learn how to play this game - we're often told we should use to heavier frames. Certainly, you can generate decent pace/heaviness with a hefty racquet behind the shot.

But perhaps for well-informed newbies like me, I've also picked up a nasty habit of slowing down my forward swing, heavier racquets allow me to get away with it.

But this isn't correct, proper technique should work to increasing racquet head speed - lighter racquets force you to do this. I don't know, it's a thought buzzing around in the back of my mind.

 

[Shroud]

Damn. It's the demographic of us rec players that get on places like this, and YouTube, to learn how to play this game - we're often told we should use to heavier frames. Certainly, you can generate decent pace/heaviness with a hefty racquet behind the shot.

But perhaps for well-informed newbies like me, I've also picked up a nasty habit of slowing down my forward swing, heavier racquets allow me to get away with it.

But this isn't correct, proper technique should work to increasing racquet head speed - lighter racquets force you to do this. I don't know, it's a thought buzzing around in the back of my mind.

All i can tell you is that swing weight is king. It makes shots more powerful, stable, and arm comfy.

I was hitting with a bud who is a complete beginner. He was using the $30 Federer racquet and i switched with him and suddenly he was blasting shots with the sane technique that were barely going over before. Now i was struggling to get the ball over the net with such a low sw.

I bet there is some magic spec where weight and rhs benefits are magnified.

For me at least the RHS you get from a lighter stick never seemed to do any good. While I still get decent rhs with my club

 

[Deleted member 742196]

All i can tell you is that swing weight is king. It makes shots more powerful, stable, and arm comfy.

I was hitting with a bud who is a complete beginner. He was using the $30 Federer racquet and i switched with him and suddenly he was blasting shots with the sane technique that were barely going over before. Now i was struggling to get the ball over the net with such a low sw.

I bet there is some magic spec where weight and rhs benefits are magnified.

For me at least the RHS you get from a lighter stick never seemed to do any good. While I still get decent rhs with my club

In the above illustration you think it was that $30 racquet that forced him to go for fuller swings?

what about at your end? When your usual heavy racquet was swapped with his, is there a possibility you've forged your strokes limiting your RHS/forward swing?

Muscle memory is a *****, we all know it takes forever to make adjustments. As I've been playing from the beginning with a PS85/90 I'm wondering if the racquets themselves have made me forgo power in favour of control.

You can't effectively play tennis at 100% power or 100% control and both come at the expense of the other - maybe it's good to be familiar with both heavy and light racquets to find that right spot in your technique.

Personally, I think I'm about 70% control, 30% power - if one had to put numbers on such a thing. What I do know is modern racquets force me to swing freely, maybe that's what I need at this particular stage?

 

[Deleted member 742196]

this only applies to people that have taken to learning tennis seriously:

What if one of the reasons the people who learn tennis as kids acquire sound biomechanics is because they begin with light frames? They're forced to use hip/ground/full swings etc because the racquet contributes little to the stroke?

We've all seen that 8-9 year old on court ripping balls using a 250g racquet, right?

If heavy racquets assist and aid to the extent they're usually accorded here, would it not be advisable to begin to use them AFTER developing your technique first?

I've arrived at this question after experimenting with this on the FH. It's my 1HBH I'm not sure about, does anybody with a 1HBH use a sub 320 (unstrung) frame?

 

[2HBH-DTL]

heavy racquets are great on 2 handers because you have that extra hand that is gripping the racquet. more specficially the top hand which is controlling the majority of the racquet. it makes swinging a 12.5 oz frame super easy. i'm actually hitting my 2 hander harder than i could my 1 hander back when i had it. and i could rip the 1 hander when setup for the right shot. heavy racquet+2 hander is magic to me.

 

[heninfan99]

I've arrived at this question after experimenting with this on the FH. It's my 1HBH I'm not sure about, does anybody with a 1HBH use a sub 320 (unstrung) frame?

Yeah I used the nCode nTour. 303 grams (SW 330) and the LM Instinct which was also under 320gr.
I currently use a Yonex 310 grams unstrung.

Also used diff iterations of the 6.1 95 which were over 320gr

 

[robbo1970]

I've been using my PCG100 lately and it works very well on my 1HBH.

That said, heavy to one person may not be heavy to another. I've seen guys with light racquets hit demon backhands, so I think it's more down to the person using it.

 

[Christian Olsson]

this only applies to people that have taken to learning tennis seriously:

What if one of the reasons the people who learn tennis as kids acquire sound biomechanics is because they begin with light frames? They're forced to use hip/ground/full swings etc because the racquet contributes little to the stroke?

We've all seen that 8-9 year old on court ripping balls using a 250g racquet, right?

If heavy racquets assist and aid to the extent they're usually accorded here, would it not be advisable to begin to use them AFTER developing your technique first?

I've arrived at this question after experimenting with this on the FH. It's my 1HBH I'm not sure about, does anybody with a 1HBH use a sub 320 (unstrung) frame?

I do. Borderline. My volkls are 333 ish grams with 6-7 pts balance and 325-328 SW. I use a ohbh and hit way better with this setup than my past heavier 350 gram 340+ SW setup. I don't like too light setups like sub 310 strung. Tweener+ weight I suppose it's called. But correct biomechanics is needed. Without it there isn't too much power in it. But then again there isn't in a 17 gram heavier setup either if hit without good mechanics.


Volkl Super G 10 295 modded.
Babolat origin 16 24/22 kg.

 

[mikeeeee]

I think its funny that 75% of respondents are 1 handers and 90% of pro players use 2HBH's. Interesting disconnect between rec players and pros. Must be the Fed/Sampras effect.

I tried 2 handed for the first few months I started playing. Just wasn't working for me, and I refused to try 1 handed because I thought it was and old method and lame.

Stan and Fed can still win with the 1 hander so it's not an inferior stroke. Also it just looks sexy.

 

[DustinW]

I guess I'm in the minority... 2HBH and around 300g unstrung.

 

[Backhanded Compliment]

When I first came back to the sport about 10 years ago I tried to do a 2 hander... it just would not gell. Then I discovered what Guga was had done with my grip and poly strings and i never looked back.... though it took a while to get my timing and footwork back to where they needed to be, a full eastern backhand is a demanding shot but ohhh what fun it is when hit properly. Part of the trick was getting the mass of the frame high enough.

 

[n8dawg6]

I guess I'm in the minority... 2HBH and around 300g unstrung.

same here, although i usually slice a low ball.

 

[andyN]

I had to get used to the timing a bit. I moved down in weight to 310grams 9HL but with SW 330 and my 1hbh adapted and a bit more forgiving

Top... 310 grams strung or unstrung?
im assuming unstrung.

 

[topspn]

Top... 310 grams strung or unstrung?
im assuming unstrung.

Yes, unstrung static weight balance but the SW is strung. So strung around 333 with overgrip, 7HL and 330SW

 

[Deleted member 742196]

I do. Borderline. My volkls are 333 ish grams with 6-7 pts balance and 325-328 SW. I use a ohbh and hit way better with this setup than my past heavier 350 gram 340+ SW setup. I don't like too light setups like sub 310 strung. Tweener+ weight I suppose it's called. But correct biomechanics is needed. Without it there isn't too much power in it. But then again there isn't in a 17 gram heavier setup either if hit without good mechanics.


Volkl Super G 10 295 modded.
Babolat origin 16 24/22 kg.

I spend much of my time on a court across coaches, the equipment they use is of note. Long hours, with a variety of players/drills/people/levels - so it's interesting for me to see that many of the coaches I'm with use lighter frames - double and single handed backhanders alike.

In fact the coach I'm with in Slovenia uses your exact frame. Hits a vicious 1HBH whenever he wants to go for it.

 

[jonestim]

1hbh, 3.5 player. 315g unstrung Prince Textreme Warrior 100. I added leather grip, overgrip and 6 grams of tungsten tape in the throat.

For a 3.5 player I have a pretty good backhand. Until I switched to this racquet it was average and I ran around most of the time. I no longer feel the need to run around it and some days have less errors off the backhand than the forehand.

In the past 2 years I have used as low as 309 unstrung (before I added the weight in the throat) and up to about 335 unstrung (POG OS with overgrip).

Racquets that were not as good for my OHBH (although some were better for a backhand slice):
POG OS, POG Mid, POG Longbody, Textreme Tour 100P, EXO3 Tour 100 16x18, EXO3 Tour 18x20, Tour 100T ESP, Diablo Mid, Pure Aero, Pure Drive Tour Plus, Warrior 107, Organix V1 Pro, Pro Staff Classic 16x18,

 

[Deleted member 742196]

I guess I'm in the minority... 2HBH and around 300g unstrung.

I don't think you're in the minority. Its a bit unfortunate but this poll (currently) doesn't inspire enough confidence in both raw numbers, or accuracy.

Many players on court are using 320 and under frames, in fact I'd say most would be nowadays when you look at the equipment on offer.

It's my theory the main demographic really using 320+ rackets would be 1H'ers - for various reasons outlined above.

Why this might be is likely an interesting conversation.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

When I first came back to the sport about 10 years ago I tried to do a 2 hander... it just would not gell. Then I discovered what Guga was had done with my grip and poly strings and i never looked back.... though it took a while to get my timing and footwork back to where they needed to be, a full eastern backhand is a demanding shot but ohhh what fun it is when hit properly. Part of the trick was getting the mass of the frame high enough.

"Guga had done with my grip"???

Help? What are you referring to?

 

[Deleted member 742196]

1hbh, 3.5 player. 315g unstrung Prince Textreme Warrior 100. I added leather grip, overgrip and 6 grams of tungsten tape in the throat.

For a 3.5 player I have a pretty good backhand. Until I switched to this racquet it was average and I ran around most of the time. I no longer feel the need to run around it and some days have less errors off the backhand than the forehand.

In the past 2 years I have used as low as 309 unstrung (before I added the weight in the throat) and up to about 335 unstrung (POG OS with overgrip).

Racquets that were not as good for my OHBH (although some were better for a backhand slice):
POG OS, POG Mid, POG Longbody, Textreme Tour 100P, EXO3 Tour 100 16x18, EXO3 Tour 18x20, Tour 100T ESP, Diablo Mid, Pure Aero, Pure Drive Tour Plus, Warrior 107, Organix V1 Pro, Pro Staff Classic 16x18,

Holy Hell! You've certainly experimented with racquets. I'm only now beginning to look at what else is on offer, hence my confusion. Well this isn't accurate, in my quest to move up from a PS85/90 I'm trying to figure out what keeps me glued to them, and why.

I've got two Angells and two 6.1 95's on deck in the coming months, some light demoing with very modern frames like the DR98 and PS97S have me reflecting a bit more on why it is I'm tethered to a vey narrow band of racquets.

Seemingly I'm not the only one if this poll is to be taken seriously.

 

[Shroud]

Holy Hell! You've certainly experimented with racquets. I'm only now beginning to look at what else is on offer, hence my confusion. Well this isn't accurate, in my quest to move up from a PS85/90 I'm trying to figure out what keeps me glued to them, and why.

I've got two Angells and two 6.1 95's on deck in the coming months, some light demoing with very modern frames like the DR98 and PS97S have me reflecting a bit more on why it is I'm tethered to a vey narrow band of racquets.

Seemingly I'm not the only one if this poll is to be taken seriously.

6.1 95s is a great stick

 

[Dartagnan64]

I think it is just 1 handers are more interested in this poll.. Me I need mass, there is no substitute for it with a 1 hander.

I suppose except my experience with club tennis is that it still is 75% 1HBH to 25% 2HBH. With the frequency of 2HBH's increasing with NTRP level. But that is a discussion for another thread.

Personally I think leverage and SW help all topspin groundstrokes. It's mostly a matter of whether you have the power to wield such heavy sticks effectively. A lot of pros use heavier frames with XL measurements. Because they have the power and timing to do so.

 

[beltsman]

I'm asking because I'm in a bit of a pickle at this moment; my FH is moving towards more of a modern variety, new frames like the DR98 seem to work well for me - 1HBH however is god awful (unstable, lacking penetration and feel pushed back) with these.

Wondering if I'm unique in this respect, and if not, what adjustments will I need to make?

I switched from 1HBH to a 2HBH for various reasons, but this was one of them.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

6.1 95s is a great stick

Actually my primary intent here is to bump up to a 95 or higher frame. Thus far I haven't really been able to nudge it past 90, and this needed a year.

But recently I've been thinking perhaps it's something about my technique that keeps me glued to the heavier rackets. Certainly this appeared to be the case with my FH - I let most of the drive/power come from the heft/mass of the PS85/90.

After working a bit on my biomechanics I realized I can use lighter frames like the DR98 or various tweeners - on the forehand. The backhand however feels awfully unstable with these frames.

I've come around to thinking that perhaps I'm also not really swinging freely on the backhand side, so can't make the modern tweeners work.

The 6.1 95's were available at a great price in Europe, both the 25th anniversary edition as well as the 2017 release. Whether or not it's my biomechanics, or finding the right frame or whatever - this year I'm definitely going to bump up. The PS90 is a nice frame, it does what you want it to - but obviously it needs someone more experienced and skilled than myself to turn it into the great weapon that it can be.