2019 US Open Men's Final :- [2] Rafael Nadal (Spain) v/s [5] Daniil Medvedev (Russia)
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I thought as well but then he proved that he can stay with RAFA from the baseline and that heavy massive topspin shots from nadal didn't bother him. And actually for last 2 sets, he moved better than Rafa and was faster moving out to wide angle shots.
bad news for nads in future?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
But still Rafa will have the advantage on Clay courts. but on hard courts, Danill will have better chances to beat rafa. But then he still has to go thru Novak and Roger most likely to win one of these majors. and not sure if he will get injured like Novak, since his game is extremely grueling and tough on the body.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Even at young age, his technique is very good here where he keeps his head very still and eyes on the ball. his shoulders are flying out early which is technique flaw but Rafa gets away with that since he hits so many forehands with open stance, which is something I would not recommend to amateurs.
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the other younger guys will see this and think they have a chance too yes?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Well not sure. most of these younger guys have much worse shot tolerance than Rafa so they can't stay with him from the baseline. so only hope they have is to just hit huge shots early in the point and blow away rafa. and that is very tough to do. Only guys in the world now that have as good or higher shot tolerance than rafa is Novak and Danill, and Federer when he is healthy.
cucio
Legend
It was a very entertaining, dramatic match, with a lot of ups and downs from both guys. Nadal at some points looked like he was going to puke and Daniil looked like he was wrestling with himself to keep the coolest poker face.
However, going by the quality of tennis I wouldn't rate this one as a classic.
At some point during the third set Rafa's backhand went on vacation to Majorca, it was the weirdest thing. Before it was nothing amazing, but he was producing consistently deep topspin and slices, with the ocasional crosscourt zinger. And all of a sudden all it came from that side was short, loopy sitters, to the point he started running around it until he regained confidence after 2-2 in the fifth. His patterns started to get too predictable and Daniil pounced on it, camping on his backhand side and punishing Rafa. That return of first serve on break point in the third set sent a loud and clear message. From then on Nadal started to mix up his serve again a bit. I don't think I have ever seen him S&V so often, but it was good tactics from him, since without a reliable backhand he was getting owned in the rallies.
Regarding gamesmanship, I agree with the poster that said it went a bit both ways: Medvedev was also rushing the points forward Roddick-style, barely giving time to his opponent to get ready. Server pace is and should be a thing, but it can certainly be a fine line.
The match could really have gone either way (or could have been done unceremoniously in the third set), it all came down to very few points and we would be looking at very different scenarios, regarding the vaunted GS tally record.
It is perhaps early to say, but Medvedev does look like the real thing. Great power, variety, ability to change directions, endurance and an earnest willingness to improve on the mental aspects of the game. His backhand held well against Rafa's topspin forehand. This may be a breakthrough moment for him, here's hoping, we need more challengers.
However, going by the quality of tennis I wouldn't rate this one as a classic.
At some point during the third set Rafa's backhand went on vacation to Majorca, it was the weirdest thing. Before it was nothing amazing, but he was producing consistently deep topspin and slices, with the ocasional crosscourt zinger. And all of a sudden all it came from that side was short, loopy sitters, to the point he started running around it until he regained confidence after 2-2 in the fifth. His patterns started to get too predictable and Daniil pounced on it, camping on his backhand side and punishing Rafa. That return of first serve on break point in the third set sent a loud and clear message. From then on Nadal started to mix up his serve again a bit. I don't think I have ever seen him S&V so often, but it was good tactics from him, since without a reliable backhand he was getting owned in the rallies.
Regarding gamesmanship, I agree with the poster that said it went a bit both ways: Medvedev was also rushing the points forward Roddick-style, barely giving time to his opponent to get ready. Server pace is and should be a thing, but it can certainly be a fine line.
The match could really have gone either way (or could have been done unceremoniously in the third set), it all came down to very few points and we would be looking at very different scenarios, regarding the vaunted GS tally record.
It is perhaps early to say, but Medvedev does look like the real thing. Great power, variety, ability to change directions, endurance and an earnest willingness to improve on the mental aspects of the game. His backhand held well against Rafa's topspin forehand. This may be a breakthrough moment for him, here's hoping, we need more challengers.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
It was better final this edition.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
DSH
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DSH
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a10best
Hall of Fame
Med beat Djokovic in Cinincinatti and hung with Rafa. All they believe right now is Med is for real, and that they will have to go through Med and the big 2.
Furthermore, I believe they think they can beat Roger because of his age.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
maybe to you
Rafa cheating should count as a cheat to any rational person.
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
FedrMatt said:
Nadal still at number 18 in my eyes
Awful, Awful gamesmanship from the second things started going against him, getting the crucial 5th set break purely because of it
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
MedEvil did better than I thought
Not bad for someone who despises BO5
The most of us expected that nadal would routine him in straights but we underestimated him I can see him winning a slam before Doublefaultrev & shoeshoepas imo
I enjoyed him during this tournament
Not bad for someone who despises BO5
The most of us expected that nadal would routine him in straights but we underestimated him
I can see him winning a slam before Doublefaultrev & shoeshoepas imoI enjoyed him during this tournament
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
Seeing the moaning and groaning in the Talk Federer Warehouse about Nadal winning has been very delightful.
Tennis Rules
Semi-Pro
was a short night after this great match - especially set 4 and 5 (andsecond hlf 3rd set).
never thought that medvedev would push nadal to his limit. he was very close on the victory....but nadal is the ultimate warrior.
in shootmaking he wasn´t at his best and was many times to short or sliced not dangerous enough. then he had to play without a real first serve the whole match because of the time violation at first game of the match!!!
too all they said that nadal don´t hurry up his service...he did serve very quikly. i dont like these clock thing every time when nadal is playing. let him play!!!
medvedev on the other site is the opposite.
at the end it was a deserved victory for nadal and his 4th us open title and 19th grand slam....unbelieveable!!!!
VAMOS
big credits to medvedev for this match
never thought that medvedev would push nadal to his limit. he was very close on the victory....but nadal is the ultimate warrior.
in shootmaking he wasn´t at his best and was many times to short or sliced not dangerous enough. then he had to play without a real first serve the whole match because of the time violation at first game of the match!!!
too all they said that nadal don´t hurry up his service...he did serve very quikly. i dont like these clock thing every time when nadal is playing. let him play!!!
medvedev on the other site is the opposite.
at the end it was a deserved victory for nadal and his 4th us open title and 19th grand slam....unbelieveable!!!!
VAMOS
big credits to medvedev for this match
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
Favorite part was when a D-bag Rafa fan chanted LETS GO RAFA in the middle of Medvedev's toss and Danil hit an ace anyway lol.
CosmosMpower
Hall of Fame
He should have served it anyway and told the Ump he was playing to his normal serve speed.
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Deleted member 744633
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Medvedev wife was calm in the whole match
Medvedev wife? Is he already married?
And here I was thinking he was going to take over the baton from the top 3
Yes @sureshs, the most popular person on this forum, is also a Tamilan
Is Nadal greater than Ajay Singh Deol?
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Deleted member 744633
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I already asked you once, who is this Ajay Singh Deol?
Anyways ... yes, Nadal is greater than him. But don't compare Nadal with the one and only paaji, Sunny Deol because Sunny is peerless!
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
The Next Gen need to play Nadal in a BO5 to 'cut their teeth'. I'm referring to normal tennis players not the likes of Kyrgios who is bent on self destruction. Rafa puts all his opponents into beast mode because he doesn't let up; they have to deserve every point they win and to do that they have to be focussed and push themselves to the limit.
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
Laver handing Nadal the trophy is a metaphor of the passing of the torch.
zvelf
Hall of Fame
Stephens beat #15 Madison Keys, #9 Venus Williams, and #16 Anastasija Sevastova to win the U.S. Open. That's a pretty weak draw and not proof of trial by fire. Medvedev beat Djokovic in Cincinnati and gave Nadal all he could handle here.
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Deleted member 763691
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Medvedev will probably never beat Rafa at Roland Garros
He might beat Rafa at a hardcourt slam, but that's nothing significant, considering Rafa has lost to Fognini and Pouille at the US Open already.....
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Deleted member 763691
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Wedding only takes ONE day, and the honeymoon is negotiable for whenever, so we'll see Rafa at the Laver Cup, Shanghai and London
Now this is a problem.. now RAFA will go and get married and Shut down for the rest of the year and won't see him again til next year's Australian open... and maybe he will just concentrate on making babies for the rest of the year
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
after expanding this much energy to win the open, why would he play Laver cup ? which is more useless than year ending finalWedding only takes ONE day, and the honeymoon is negotiable for whenever, so we'll see Rafa at the Laver Cup, Shanghai and London
Dedans Penthouse
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. .No. . THIS is cheating vvvv: . .
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aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
The court was super slow. I don't know what would have happened on a faster court where it were easier to hit service/baseline winners. We probably wouldn't have seen so many net points, to start with.
An entire generation or two blocked...because they came up at the wrong time.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Many have call this “one of the best” matches they have watched! I totally agree!
vanioMan
Legend
This hold at 0-1 (I believe) in the 5th set was on par with the hold in the 4th set of the 2012 AO final when he was down 3-4 0-40 and the hold in the 4th set of the 2013 US Open final, again down 0-40.
LMAO I love this. Med is as cold as ice.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
A most enjoyable match. Was still on my mind last night. No higher praise than that..
Fintft
G.O.A.T.
f you encourage cheating that's a matter of education and your problem.
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
Karim Alami. Former top 20-30 player from Morocco. He came up around the same time as Hicham Arazi and Younes El Aynaoui in the 90's. He would take care of Rafa whenever he played Dubai. He lost his son.
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
And Fed lost to a lot more since 2008, including John Millman and Tommy Robredo at the USO.Medvedev will probably never beat Rafa at Roland Garros
He might beat Rafa at a hardcourt slam, but that's nothing significant, considering Rafa has lost to Fognini and Pouille at the US Open already.....
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Fedalfan
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Ahh! Got it. Thanks!
3fees
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