2020 Cincinnati Masters Draw is out!

UnforcedTerror

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Projected 3rdR
Novak Djokovic - Felix Auger-Aliassime
Denis Shapovalov - David Goffin

Daniil Medvedev - Cristian Garin
Karen Khachanov - Roberto Bautista Agut


Matteo Berrettini - Diego Schwartzman
Stefanos Tsitsipas - John Isner

Alexander Zverev - Andrey Rublev
Dominic Thiem - Grigor Dimitrov


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Full Draw
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Raul_SJ

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Don't know why the "sick" Dmitrov even bothered to show up here.
Thiemster should take him out in the first round!
 
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Potential paths:

Djokovic (1):

2R: Paul
3R: Auger-Aliassime
QF: Shapovalov / Goffin (leaning towards Goffin)
SF: Medvedev
F: Thiem / Zverev / Tsitsipas (Tsitsipas most likely)

Thiem (2):

2R: Krajinovic
3R: Dimitrov
QF: Zverev / Murray ;)
SF: Tsitsipas
F: Djokovic / Medvedev

Medvedev (3):

2R: Qualifier
3R: Fritz / Garin
QF: Khachanov / RBA
SF: Djokovic
F: Thiem / Zverev / Tsitsipas

Tsitsipas (4):

2R: Anderson
3R: Isner
QF: Berrettini / Schwartzman
SF: Thiem / Zverev
F: Djokovic / Medvedev

Lotta next-genners in Djokovic's side of the draw, and of course he'll have to be careful if Medvedev makes it to the semis. Med's projected draw looks to be the softest of the top four seeds so I think he could reach the semis without many problems. That is, if he returns to form and doesn't mug things up like he did post-Shanghai last year.

Tsitsipas could fall victim to an upset in the early rounds given he may first play Isner and Anderson. He'll have to start sharp (especially on the return) or he may find himself out of the tournament. If he makes it far enough to meet Thiem, I'd back him.

Thiem has a somewhat challenging draw, but if he brings the form that he brought during his previous few hard court tournaments (such as the ATP Finals and the AO) he could surely manage. Zverev may prove dangerous for him...

Seems like some things are falling in line for another next-gen triumph at Cincy, but Djokovic still remains the favorite. Can't wait to see how it plays out.
 
TripleATeam

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
Third Serve said:
Potential paths:

Djokovic (1):

2R: Paul
3R: Auger-Aliassime
QF: Shapovalov / Goffin (leaning towards Goffin)
SF: Medvedev
F: Thiem / Zverev / Tsitsipas (Tsitsipas most likely)

Thiem (2):

2R: Krajinovic
3R: Dimitrov
QF: Zverev / Murray ;)
SF: Tsitsipas
F: Djokovic / Medvedev

Medvedev (3):

2R: Qualifier
3R: Fritz / Garin
QF: Khachanov / RBA
SF: Djokovic
F: Thiem / Zverev / Tsitsipas

Tsitsipas (4):

2R: Anderson
3R: Isner
QF: Berrettini / Schwartzman
SF: Thiem / Zverev
F: Djokovic / Medvedev

Lotta next-genners in Djokovic's side of the draw, and of course he'll have to be careful if Medvedev makes it to the semis. Med's projected draw looks to be the softest of the top four seeds so I think he could reach the semis without many problems. That is, if he returns to form and doesn't mug things up like he did post-Shanghai last year.

Tsitsipas could fall victim to an upset in the early rounds given he may first play Isner and Anderson. He'll have to start sharp (especially on the return) or he may find himself out of the tournament. If he makes it far enough to meet Thiem, I'd back him.

Thiem has a somewhat challenging draw, but if he brings the form that he brought during his previous few hard court tournaments (such as the ATP Finals and the AO) he could surely manage. Zverev may prove dangerous for him...

Seems like some things are falling in line for another next-gen triumph at Cincy, but Djokovic still remains the favorite. Can't wait to see how it plays out.
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Even among a full draw, I wouldn't call any of their draws weak. Djokovic's draw obviously isn't the strongest, but not necessarily bad. Toughest draw I would say is between Tsitsipas and Thiem.

Tsitsipas has a hell draw in any circumstance. That's a slam finalist in R2, a servebot that isn't going down easily in R3, a couple of top 10/20 fixtures in QF, the current world #3 (4 time slam finalist) and former world #3 in SF, and Djokovic/Medvedev (both Cincinnati winners) in the final.
Thiem's isn't easy either. He's the unlucky one that ended up with Zverev in his quarter (or Murray), after facing two dangerous floaters (Krajinovic and Dimitrov). Then he still needs to face Tsitsipas, then the winner of Djokovic/Medvedev.

I'm liking how the tournament is shaping up.
 
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Milanez82

Hall of Fame
How is Dimitrov playing. Wasn't he unfit and gasping for air from covid post recovery in that exhibition recently
 
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stringertom said:
$24.5K and a chance to warm up in his attempt to defend SF points. It’s all just a negative test result away.
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I don't think he can drop points. The temporary COVID rule changes say that if a player loses before the round in which they lost last time, he won't lose the points. But he'll still gain points if he improves over his performance last year.

Also, nice avatar lmao
 
Beckerserve

Beckerserve

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Djokovic will lose to Sangdren. For sangdren after what happened v Federer in Australia that match up will be massive for him. For Djokovic he will be flat as a pancake. Djokovic is there to win USO not Cincinatti
 
Lleytonstation

Lleytonstation

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I like this draw. Just hope we get some good match ups. Wonder if we will see a rematch at USO. This is interesting for sure. Different. Potentially dangerous. But exciting.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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Raul_SJ said:
Don't know why the "sick" Dmitrov even bothered to show up here.
Thiemster should take him out in the first round!
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Except the epic Thiemster lost in the second round of the AO and Wimbledon in 2019 and the first round of the USO. Why would anyone have high hopes for someone with that type of garbage record in majors just last year? Do tell!
 
Terenigma

Terenigma

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People need to stop predicting Murray will sweep through the early rounds, i highly doubt he's getting to the QF but would love it if he does. Also why is Dimitrov playing, i thought he was still struggling to recover? Outside of that, i think it's a fairly decent draw, bottom half is harder on paper but i think players like Murray/Dimitrov/Raonic in paticular are recovering from their various injuries/illnesses and won't perform as well and that gives the whole draw a much fairer outlook.
 
tennis_pro

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Dimitrov playing? kek

watch dimitrov get out of his deathbed and beat thiem in the qf lmao
 
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weelie

weelie

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Terenigma said:
People need to stop predicting Murray will sweep through the early rounds, i highly doubt he's getting to the QF but would love it if he does.
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Most of the guy's have not played real matches for a looong time. So some surprises to be expected here!
 
Terenigma

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
weelie said:
Most of the guy's have not played real matches for a looong time. So some surprises to be expected here!
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I get that but i still think too many people (Murray himself included) expect to much of him after everything he's been through. I have watched most of his matches post-surgery and he's not the same player anymore and even given the months of little to no real matches, i still expect Tiafoe will give him a tight match and especially a player of Zverev's calibre and training should be beating him fairly routinely. As i said tho, i would love for him to make a decent run but i'm keeping my expectations firmly grounded when it comes to him.
 
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Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Terenigma said:
I get that but i still think too many people (Murray himself included) expect to much of him after everything he's been through. I have watched most of his matches post-surgery and he's not the same player anymore and even given the months of little to no real matches, i still expect Tiafoe will give him a tight match and especially a player of Zverev's calibre and training should be beating him fairly routinely. As i said tho, i would love for him to make a decent run but i'm keeping my expectations firmly grounded when it comes to him.
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Tiafoe is a recent covid recovery
He can't be fit enough
Murray will go into longer rallies to see if Tiafoe lungs can handle it
 
weakera

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BeatlesFan said:
Except the epic Thiemster lost in the second round of the AO and Wimbledon in 2019 and the first round of the USO. Why would anyone have high hopes for someone with that type of garbage record in majors just last year? Do tell!
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It's a joke to include his USO 19 loss, as we all know why that happened, and it has nothing to do with his ability as a tennis player. You're just cynical about NextGen producing a talent capable of stopping Djokodal from running roughshod over the tour, but Thiem will prove you wrong. I understand not wanting to get your hopes up, or place them in Thiem, but he is a beast, and perhaps no one works harder on tour today. Djokovic survived by the skin of his teeth on his favorite court in the world, he will need to play much better tennis in all likelihood if he faces Dominic in New York. Thiem has the power to blow him off the court that maybe no one else does, and Nole will not have the crowd electricity to help psyche Thiem out this time around. Just check their results over the last 3 years, Novak has trouble with Dominic every time they face off and Dominic is only getting better.
 
Born_to_slice

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Terenigma said:
People need to stop predicting Murray will sweep through the early rounds, i highly doubt he's getting to the QF but would love it if he does. Also why is Dimitrov playing, i thought he was still struggling to recover? Outside of that, i think it's a fairly decent draw, bottom half is harder on paper but i think players like Murray/Dimitrov/Raonic in paticular are recovering from their various injuries/illnesses and won't perform as well and that gives the whole draw a much fairer outlook.
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Difference between reality and media.
 
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ND-13

Hall of Fame
Draw looks like a joke without Fed, Nadal and Stan.

Goffin is back in top 8 with that WTA serve ? LOL
 
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SonnyT

Legend
From NYT: "...the final decision was made by officials from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene."

Decision about withdrawing Pella and Dellien. So the final decisions won't be made by organizers or USTA, but by the health authorities! As it should be!

I bet Djokovic will not get past the 3rd round of W&S. First reason: if he were serious, he wouldn't enter the doubles competition. Second: there is only 2 day break between W&S end and USO start.
 
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gogo

gogo

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SonnyT said:
From NYT: "...the final decision was made by officials from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene."

Decision about withdrawing Pella and Dellien. So the final decisions won't be made by organizers or USTA, but by the health authorities! As it should be!

I bet Djokovic will not get past the 3rd round of W&S. First reason: if he were serious, he wouldn't enter the doubles competition. Second: there is only 2 day break between W&S end and USO start.
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This is what I was asking about on the other thread. Is this setting a precedent? i.e. if someone else's trainer tests positive will the player have to withdraw, no matter who they are?
 
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Milanez82

Hall of Fame
SonnyT said:
From NYT: "...the final decision was made by officials from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene."

Decision about withdrawing Pella and Dellien. So the final decisions won't be made by organizers or USTA, but by the health authorities! As it should be!

I bet Djokovic will not get past the 3rd round of W&S. First reason: if he were serious, he wouldn't enter the doubles competition. Second: there is only 2 day break between W&S end and USO start.
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He is using it as match prep for Us open
As i'm sure other top players are
If things go tough they will simply tank a match
 
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Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
Whoah Sebastian Korda(225 in rankings) just beat Simon 36, 60, 61 in qualies

guessing a lot of players will be rusty. And I think the no crowd thing will take pressure off low ranked players.

@The Green Mile
 
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