Current favourites to win the Roland Garros?

mwym

Professional
Djokovic has 2 months to prove his mental strength by getting fit for it through clay Masters.

Anyone who knows tennis in last 15 years would confirm that safer bet is he will be in that finals against Nadal. And IF he gets to that finals - chances of wining it for them two are about equal this year. It will be fun watching Djokovic in SF though, trying to send the same AO19 message to Nadal.

The industry will hype this in next 2 months, and that is the safest bet of all.
 

oldmanfan

Legend
Probably the only way he could do it ;)

Weeeell... anything's possible. USO17 did happen, no? ;)

Wouldn't it be interesting if Fedr is the first one to reach DCYGS, the 'supposed' least likely of the Big3? :eek:

Now that's the fighting spirit! No doubt your boy is the King and fav, but we'll see who kicks who's @$$ at ClayMania. Possible castration of the evil Minotaur at the hands of Earth's Mightiest to inaugurate the new stadium. :)

You mentioning 'new stadium' got my attention. Who just won a big title in a new stadium? It's not likely, but possible. ;)

2019 clay. Interesting. :D
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Weeeell... anything's possible. USO17 did happen, no? ;)

Wouldn't it be interesting if Fedr is the first one to reach DCYGS, the 'supposed' least likely of the Big3? :eek:



You mentioning 'new stadium' got my attention. Who just won a big title in a new stadium? It's not likely, but possible. ;)

2019 clay. Interesting. :D

Haha. ;)
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Weeeell... anything's possible. USO17 did happen, no? ;)

Wouldn't it be interesting if Fedr is the first one to reach DCYGS, the 'supposed' least likely of the Big3? :eek:



You mentioning 'new stadium' got my attention. Who just won a big title in a new stadium? It's not likely, but possible. ;)

2019 clay. Interesting. :D
They could also make the clay blue, which seems to be kryptonite for the non-Swiss.
 

oldmanfan

Legend
They could also make the clay blue, which seems to be kryptonite for the non-Swiss.

Can you imagine blue-clay RG? Nadal/Djokovic will boycott, thus eliminating the 2 biggest contenders. Fedr only needs to get by Thiem, unless someone else eliminates Thiem first. :happydevil:

Fedr, RG19 champ, with an asterisk by Nadalovic fans.
TTW would crash indefinitely. ;)
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Can you imagine blue-clay RG? Nadal/Djokovic will boycott, thus eliminating the 2 biggest contenders. Fedr only needs to get by Thiem, unless someone else eliminates Thiem first. :happydevil:

Fedr, RG19 champ, with an asterisk by Nadalovic fans.
TTW would crash indefinitely. ;)
Fedr winning anything lately puts it on a slow burner lol.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
Federer isn't winning RG so let's get that out the way.


Nadal







Thiem = Djokovic.

I believe Thiem is right on the cusp but Nadal is a royal tart at RG.

Can't see another winner.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Now that's the fighting spirit! No doubt your boy is the King and fav, but we'll see who kicks who's @$$ at ClayMania. Possible castration of the evil Minotaur at the hands of Earth's Mightiest to inaugurate the new stadium. :)

Well he's never beat a decent Rafa at RG so if it FINALLY happens at RG I can't be mad. I'll be like only took you 13 years :p

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you ready for mania?
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
Clay requires too much running. The speed & endurance costs outweigh the benefits that the surface has on his groundstrokes.

I think the USO is still his best option these days. Slow enough for him to load up on his shots, but not too slow that he has to run every point.
You could be right. Until I see dfferent, I'm going with his best surface.
 

Enceladus

Legend
Of course, main favorites for me are Nadal, Djokovic, Thiem and second sequence of favorites are Cecchinato & Schwartzman.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
Betting line has Nadal at #1 followed closely by Novak.

Then at a distant 3rd Thiem.

Then even further back Zverev & Federer.

I think realistically barring a Stanimal appearance those are the only 5 that could realistically win. And of course Zverev & Roger need a favorable draw.
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
Federer was saying in the press conference after winning Miami that hes not confident on the clay, and that he forgot how to slide.
 

I Am Finnish

Bionic Poster
Now here comes my real list

Favourites
1. Nadal
2. Thiem & Djokovic (tie)

Darkhorses
3. Z
4. Tsitsipas
5. Wawrinka
6. Schwartzman
7. Goffin
8 . Del Potro (is he playing?)
9. Gurufils 2.0
10. Fedr


Honorable Mentions

Khachanov
Cecchinato
 

byealmeens

Semi-Pro
Of course, a lit can change in the next 7 weeks, but I'd move Cecchinato (for now) even higher. Although he's the least accomplished of the 10, he demolished Diego in the Buenos Aires (early clay) final, and is coming off a great RG performance last year. I'd put him right after Fed.

While hoping that Delpo will be healthy, I'd replace him on this list with Stan.
Are you always the voice of reason? Completely agree about Marco ...
 

guitarra

Professional
On paper:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Thiem

Everyone else doesn't really matter would be a gigantic upset.

Between Nadal, Djokovic and Thiem much will depend on how the clay season before Paris unfolds. What about Nadal's presumed injury? How will Djokovic play after his disappointing Sunshine Double 2 early exits?

I personally hope for a great clay season by Dominic topped with lifting Roland Garros trophy. Is long overdue now. Come on!
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
On paper:

1. Nadal
2. Djokovic
3. Thiem

Everyone else doesn't really matter...

Why in the world is Thiem even mentioned in the same breath as these guys? One year ago he was absolutely eviscerated by Rafa in the RG final. Thiem would have to win MC, Madrid and Rome in order to even be a distant third in the "favorites" list at RG.
 

Feather

Legend
Rafael Nadal
Novak Djokovic
Dominic Thiem

Kei Nishikori
Diego Schwartzman
Marco Cecchinato

Stan Wawrinka
David Goffin
Gael Monfils

Alexander Zverev
 

kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Im pretty confident that Nadal will be as fired up for this as hes ever been. I even think if he met Djokovic , he would be hell bent on a beatdown for the AO mugging he received.
Im not one who thinks Nadal always gets scared against Djokovic, I just think at the AO they are worlds apart now.
Im not even sure that Djokovic will go all the way to the final at any clay event. He may be fooling us with his current form, but I cant see him being the almighty force on clay.
If Nadal doesn't have any problems in the lead up to the FO ( injury scares ), then I cant see past him, although this may be his final year of dominance on clay.

Federer isn't doing anything of note, and Del Potro will never be able to touch Rafa on clay, so I count them both out.
Zverev I cant see ever making a slam breakthrough, and Thiem needs another gear to go all the way, which im not sure he has.
Anyone can be upset however, but if anyone is taking out Djokodal, it will be younger guys, not Del Potro or Fed.
 
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kevaninho

Hall of Fame
Why in the world is Thiem even mentioned in the same breath as these guys? One year ago he was absolutely eviscerated by Rafa in the RG final. Thiem would have to win MC, Madrid and Rome in order to even be a distant third in the "favorites" list at RG.

I agree. He was destroyed in that final, and Nadal wasn't even as good as his 2017 self. Thiem wont beat any version of Nadal at RG.
 

guitarra

Professional
Why in the world is Thiem even mentioned in the same breath as these guys? One year ago he was absolutely eviscerated by Rafa in the RG final. Thiem would have to win MC, Madrid and Rome in order to even be a distant third in the "favorites" list at RG.

That's your unfavourable (and let's be honest - biased) opinion. A guy who in the last 3 years made 2 SF-s and a F must be considered as one of the main favourites. In the last 2 years his results were better than those of Djokovic and he beat him twice on clay too. He was also the only man to beat Rafa on clay in the last two years. He's also younger and in his peak unlike Djokodal who are getting older and older and declining. He also won a masters off his favourite surface just before the clay season. I still put Dominic behind Novak but only just.

Past results is not everything. Current form and development cannot be neglected either.

The truth though is that you probably just dislike him what some reason. Whatever. I don't really care.
 

EasyGoing

Professional
I agree. He was destroyed in that final, and Nadal wasn't even as good as his 2017 self. Thiem wont beat any version of Nadal at RG.

I see your point and somewhat agree - but I’d change it to ...won’t beat a great version of Nadal at RG. He’d destroy the 2015 Rafa right now, for instance. He’ll have a chance this yearfor sure and might even prove to be the biggest challenge to the absolute favorite and King of clay.

I also have Dominic in front of Nole right now. There is no way Djoko will lose everywhere easily and just win the GS’s. He might play himself into form until RG but as of now he looks pretty ordinary. Others aren’t really worth a mention, including Fed.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Are you always the voice of reason? Completely agree about Marco ...
Thanks, although my wife (not a sports fan) and a couple posters may beg to differ. But unless I'm being irreverent, I do try to post what I would also say if writing an article with my real byline, or just having an in-person chat. I've gotten some things wrong, though, and my predictions have been mediocre.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Im pretty confident that Nadal will be as fired up for this as hes ever been. I even think if he met Djokovic , he would be hell bent on a beatdown for the AO mugging he received.
Im not one who thinks Nadal always gets scared against Djokovic, I just think at the AO they are worlds apart now.
Im not even sure that Djokovic will go all the way to the final at any clay event. He may be fooling us with his current form, but I cant see him being the almighty force on clay.
If Nadal doesn't have any problems in the lead up to the FO ( injury scares ), then I cant see past him, although this may be his final year of dominance on clay.

Federer isn't doing anything of note, and Del Potro will never be able to touch Rafa on clay, so I count them both out.
Zverev I cant see ever making a slam breakthrough, and Thiem needs another gear to go all the way, which im not sure he has.
Anyone can be upset however, but if anyone is taking out Djokodal, it will be younger guys, not Del Potro or Fed.


Well said, but Nadal will still be the big favorite at RG 2020.
RG 2021 he will still be a force there, but it will depend on other factors, such as Thiem being eliminated early (unlikely), not getting oversized of matches, avoiding matches of more than 3 hours, being more and more aggressive and shortening the points as soon as possible even on the clay, he will have in that edition, 35 years !, two months more than Andrés Gimeno, the oldest tennis player in conquering the French Open.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal/ Djokovic
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That's it.

(And no Thiem has no chance whatsoever. I would put Federer at better odds than Thiem)
 

jhick

Hall of Fame
1. Nadal

I’m serious. Anyone else winning at RG would be considered a major shock. I mean, people can predict all sorts of **** and this might be one of the THREE years it sticks, but the favourite (if even half fit) is Nadal. His ridiculous, one of a kind record demands it.

The man is 86-2 there. 86-2. Won it 11 times in 14 attempts. Crazy.

The only other guy i’ll mention is Djokovic. If Nadal doesn’t win it, he will. There is no one else.
You're making the assumption Nadal is able to remain healthy. If you factor in the risk of injury, it is entirely possible someone else will win.
 
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