Did Anyone See This Coming? Soderling Defeats Nadal at the 2009 French Open

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame

With Roland Garros not taking place until late September, I thought it would be fun to go back and talk about one of the biggest upsets in the history of tennis. In fact, maybe even in the history of sports, itself.

On May 31st 2009, Robin Soderling would defeat Rafael Nadal in the fourth round of the French Open.

At the time, I was in my late teens and had a blog that talked about the matches on the ATP tour.

I can still remember going to the ATP's website, that afternoon, to get the latest info on the tournament.

The first thing that came up made my jaw hit the floor.

The title said "Rafael Nadal Stunned by Robin Soderling."

Soderling was the last player that I would have ever picked to have beaten Nadal at the French.

"Hadn't he just demolished this guy a few weeks ago in Rome?" I remember thinking to myself.

As it turns out, the Soderling that played Nadal in Rome was actually a very different player from the man who showed up for this match.

Back in 2009, it was RARE for Nadal to even lose sets at the French Open.

This was a privilege that was usually reserved only for elite players like Roger Federer or on a really bad day...someone like Paul Henri Mathieu.

So how was it possible that a guy with absolutely no pedigree on clay would be able to defeat the four-time defending champion on his best surface?!

The answer to that question might not be completely obvious, but here are a few contributing factors as to what tipped the scale in Soderling's favor:

1. Burn out: Nadal had played in every single clay court tournament leading into the 2009 French Open. Making the finals in ALL of them. When you factor in the additional matches that he'd played during the hard court season, earlier that year, it was simply too many miles on his body.
The man was simply burned out and would be forced to take the next two months off to rest and recuperate.

2. Excellent Execution: Soderling had learned from his match in Rome that he stood no chance against Nadal by trading shots from the baseline.

In this match, he adapted a much different strategy and chose to hit through the Spaniard's line of defense. At 6' 4" Soderling was one of the few players that could actually do this. He would hit his way through Nadal's high looping forehands in a way that Roger Federer never could. Nadal was also a step slow in this match and the magic that always seemed to flow from his racquet was never there during this match.

3. Magnus Norman: Soderling's coach had studied Nadal's game and determined that there was a small and potentially exploitable weakness with his forehand. Early in Nadal's career, he would struggle against the players that could hit the ball low and fast to his forehand side. While the clay courts would lend to a slight slowing of the ball. Soderling was still able to put enough juice on his returns that Nadal wasn't able to get the ball back into play.

The playing conditions on this day were warm and dry. Which also helped Soderling pull-off the upset.

His victory over Nadal would go on to have a huge impact over the rest of the event. Ultimately leading to Roger Federer winning his first and only title at Roland Garros.

What are your memories of this match?
 

JaoSousa

Hall of Fame

With Roland Garros not taking place until late September, I thought it would be fun to go back and talk about one of the biggest upsets in the history of tennis. In fact, maybe even in the history of sports, itself.

On May 31st 2009, Robin Soderling would defeat Rafael Nadal in the fourth round of the French Open.

At the time, I was in my late teens and had a blog that talked about the matches on the ATP tour.

I can still remember going to the ATP's website, that afternoon, to get the latest info on the tournament.

The first thing that came up made my jaw hit the floor.

The title said "Rafael Nadal Stunned by Robin Soderling."

Soderling was the last player that I would have ever picked to have beaten Nadal at the French.

"Hadn't he just demolished this guy a few weeks ago in Rome?" I remember thinking to myself.

As it turns out, the Soderling that played Nadal in Rome was actually a very different player from the man who showed up for this match.

Back in 2009, it was RARE for Nadal to even lose sets at the French Open.

This was a privilege that was usually reserved only for elite players like Roger Federer or on a really bad day...someone like Paul Henri Mathieu.

So how was it possible that a guy with absolutely no pedigree on clay would be able to defeat the four-time defending champion on his best surface?!

The answer to that question might not be completely obvious, but here are a few contributing factors as to what tipped the scale in Soderling's favor:

1. Burn out: Nadal had played in every single clay court tournament leading into the 2009 French Open. Making the finals in ALL of them. When you factor in the additional matches that he'd played during the hard court season, earlier that year, it was simply too many miles on his body.
The man was simply burned out and would be forced to take the next two months off to rest and recuperate.

2. Excellent Execution: Soderling had learned from his match in Rome that he stood no chance against Nadal by trading shots from the baseline.

In this match, he adapted a much different strategy and chose to hit through the Spaniard's line of defense. At 6' 4" Soderling was one of the few players that could actually do this. He would hit his way through Nadal's high looping forehands in a way that Roger Federer never could. Nadal was also a step slow in this match and the magic that always seemed to flow from his racquet was never there during this match.

3. Magnus Norman: Soderling's coach had studied Nadal's game and determined that there was a small and potentially exploitable weakness with his forehand. Early in Nadal's career, he would struggle against the players that could hit the ball low and fast to his forehand side. While the clay courts would lend to a slight slowing of the ball. Soderling was still able to put enough juice on his returns that Nadal wasn't able to get the ball back into play.

The playing conditions on this day were warm and dry. Which also helped Soderling pull-off the upset.

His victory over Nadal would go on to have a huge impact over the rest of the event. Ultimately leading to Roger Federer winning his first and only title at Roland Garros.

What are your memories of this match?
To be honest, 2009 clay season, especially in Madrid, was one of the worst levels I had seen from Nadal on clay up to that point. The SF with Novak is a great match, but it was only close because of Rafa's consistently atrocious forehand. Watch the highlights. I thought that if there was any year Federer could have beaten him, it might have been in 2009 because of the confidence he got from Madrid.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal kept a crazy schedule until that moment.
No wonder he sucked against the Swedish.
:sick:
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Fed devotees have celebrated Rafa's loss for over a decade. Their celebration always remind me of what happened in 2010:

D75NBy4XoAEDs8y


2010 FO final:
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Woohoo!

2010 FO trophy ceremony:
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yes-fist-pump-smiley-emoticon.gif
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.

With Roland Garros not taking place until late September, I thought it would be fun to go back and talk about one of the biggest upsets in the history of tennis. In fact, maybe even in the history of sports, itself.

On May 31st 2009, Robin Soderling would defeat Rafael Nadal in the fourth round of the French Open.

At the time, I was in my late teens and had a blog that talked about the matches on the ATP tour.

I can still remember going to the ATP's website, that afternoon, to get the latest info on the tournament.

The first thing that came up made my jaw hit the floor.

The title said "Rafael Nadal Stunned by Robin Soderling."

Soderling was the last player that I would have ever picked to have beaten Nadal at the French.

"Hadn't he just demolished this guy a few weeks ago in Rome?" I remember thinking to myself.

As it turns out, the Soderling that played Nadal in Rome was actually a very different player from the man who showed up for this match.

Back in 2009, it was RARE for Nadal to even lose sets at the French Open.

This was a privilege that was usually reserved only for elite players like Roger Federer or on a really bad day...someone like Paul Henri Mathieu.

So how was it possible that a guy with absolutely no pedigree on clay would be able to defeat the four-time defending champion on his best surface?!

The answer to that question might not be completely obvious, but here are a few contributing factors as to what tipped the scale in Soderling's favor:

1. Burn out: Nadal had played in every single clay court tournament leading into the 2009 French Open. Making the finals in ALL of them. When you factor in the additional matches that he'd played during the hard court season, earlier that year, it was simply too many miles on his body.
The man was simply burned out and would be forced to take the next two months off to rest and recuperate.

2. Excellent Execution: Soderling had learned from his match in Rome that he stood no chance against Nadal by trading shots from the baseline.

In this match, he adapted a much different strategy and chose to hit through the Spaniard's line of defense. At 6' 4" Soderling was one of the few players that could actually do this. He would hit his way through Nadal's high looping forehands in a way that Roger Federer never could. Nadal was also a step slow in this match and the magic that always seemed to flow from his racquet was never there during this match.

3. Magnus Norman: Soderling's coach had studied Nadal's game and determined that there was a small and potentially exploitable weakness with his forehand. Early in Nadal's career, he would struggle against the players that could hit the ball low and fast to his forehand side. While the clay courts would lend to a slight slowing of the ball. Soderling was still able to put enough juice on his returns that Nadal wasn't able to get the ball back into play.

The playing conditions on this day were warm and dry. Which also helped Soderling pull-off the upset.

His victory over Nadal would go on to have a huge impact over the rest of the event. Ultimately leading to Roger Federer winning his first and only title at Roland Garros.

What are your memories of this match?
Söderling had no pedigree on clay....until 2009. From then on he was a clay elite.
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
I remember watching this match live thinking to myself this can't be real, genuinely the biggest shock I have personally experienced watching live tennis. Just goes to show how incredibly good Rafa is on clay.

Same here. As a fan of Nadal this match was absolutely brutal to watch. At least at the time.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I think it's fair to say that nope, nobody saw it coming. Even 11 years on I still don't see it coming. :cool:
 

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
To be honest, 2009 clay season, especially in Madrid, was one of the worst levels I had seen from Nadal on clay up to that point. The SF with Novak is a great match, but it was only close because of Rafa's consistently atrocious forehand. Watch the highlights. I thought that if there was any year Federer could have beaten him, it might have been in 2009 because of the confidence he got from Madrid.

Yes, it was talked about quite a bit at the time. People forget, but the inaugural 2009 Madrid clay Masters was the final tournament leading into RG. In the initial tournament, Nadal couldn't find his forehand. He was having trouble adjusting to the altitude. Heading into RG, Nadal fans were worried the altitude had thrown him off. Whether or not it played a factor, it was certainly discussed. Rome then became the lead in tournament a year or two later.
 
"Back in 2009, it was RARE for Nadal to even lose sets at the French Open."

Also now. Sets lost for Nadal at RG,

2017: 0
2018: 1
2019: 2
Bamos...
The man is just superhuman on clay. I wonder whether we'll ever see a player with even 30% of Nadal's capabilities on clay.
 

40L0VE

Professional
I did not see it coming and it was at the time and continues to be one of the most sensational matches in tennis history.
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Fed devotees have celebrated Rafa's loss for over a decade. Their celebration always remind me of what happened in 2010:

D75NBy4XoAEDs8y


2010 FO final:
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Woohoo!

2010 FO trophy ceremony:
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yes-fist-pump-smiley-emoticon.gif
2010 reminds me of how Nadal can go from having a ton of knee problems, injuries and other issues, constantly losing to top ten players, only to come back the next season looking like a gorilla and beating everyone, and that he can do this multiple times.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
Come on. Your guy went on to win 8 more Roland garros titles after that.
The loss isn't even that crucial and has no effect on nadal's career. Imagine being a fed fan and watching him lose to freakin delpo (never won the uso after that)

Is not comparable.
Nadal is RG as Federer is Wimbledon.
They are the record holders in their respective Slam.
:)
 
Is not comparable.
Nadal is RG as Federer is Wimbledon.
They are the record holders in their respective Slam.
:)
Nadal at RG in incomparable to anyone at any slam, he's just several notches above everyone.
Even if fed had converted all of his finals at wimby, he'd still be a level below rafa at RG
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Come on. Your guy went on to win 8 more Roland garros titles after that.
The loss isn't even that crucial and has no effect on nadal's career. Imagine being a fed fan and watching him lose to freakin delpo (never won the uso after that)

That's true. But at the time, there was no way to predict how Nadal's career would unfold.

I can remember coming here, back during that time period, and there was speculation (even back then) that he would have a short career.

That wasn't just from the forum posters either. Uncle Toni would also talk about the measures that they were taking to make sure that Nadal would be able to continue to compete on the tour.

It's crazy to think that he's only lost one time at Roland Garros in the years since. Twice if you count his withdrawal from RG in 2016.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
No, I don't think anyone saw it coming. It was a shock at the time and remains so. Nadal was the clay beast and Soderling, while a very good player, wasn't known for being able to pull this caliber of upset. We could have used a few more matches like this in the last 20 years from other players.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster

With Roland Garros not taking place until late September, I thought it would be fun to go back and talk about one of the biggest upsets in the history of tennis. In fact, maybe even in the history of sports, itself.

On May 31st 2009, Robin Soderling would defeat Rafael Nadal in the fourth round of the French Open.

At the time, I was in my late teens and had a blog that talked about the matches on the ATP tour.

I can still remember going to the ATP's website, that afternoon, to get the latest info on the tournament.

The first thing that came up made my jaw hit the floor.

The title said "Rafael Nadal Stunned by Robin Soderling."

Soderling was the last player that I would have ever picked to have beaten Nadal at the French.

"Hadn't he just demolished this guy a few weeks ago in Rome?" I remember thinking to myself.

As it turns out, the Soderling that played Nadal in Rome was actually a very different player from the man who showed up for this match.

Back in 2009, it was RARE for Nadal to even lose sets at the French Open.

This was a privilege that was usually reserved only for elite players like Roger Federer or on a really bad day...someone like Paul Henri Mathieu.

So how was it possible that a guy with absolutely no pedigree on clay would be able to defeat the four-time defending champion on his best surface?!

The answer to that question might not be completely obvious, but here are a few contributing factors as to what tipped the scale in Soderling's favor:

1. Burn out: Nadal had played in every single clay court tournament leading into the 2009 French Open. Making the finals in ALL of them. When you factor in the additional matches that he'd played during the hard court season, earlier that year, it was simply too many miles on his body.
The man was simply burned out and would be forced to take the next two months off to rest and recuperate.

2. Excellent Execution: Soderling had learned from his match in Rome that he stood no chance against Nadal by trading shots from the baseline.

In this match, he adapted a much different strategy and chose to hit through the Spaniard's line of defense. At 6' 4" Soderling was one of the few players that could actually do this. He would hit his way through Nadal's high looping forehands in a way that Roger Federer never could. Nadal was also a step slow in this match and the magic that always seemed to flow from his racquet was never there during this match.

3. Magnus Norman: Soderling's coach had studied Nadal's game and determined that there was a small and potentially exploitable weakness with his forehand. Early in Nadal's career, he would struggle against the players that could hit the ball low and fast to his forehand side. While the clay courts would lend to a slight slowing of the ball. Soderling was still able to put enough juice on his returns that Nadal wasn't able to get the ball back into play.

The playing conditions on this day were warm and dry. Which also helped Soderling pull-off the upset.

His victory over Nadal would go on to have a huge impact over the rest of the event. Ultimately leading to Roger Federer winning his first and only title at Roland Garros.

What are your memories of this match?

Ok, was the ONLY reason that rafa lost that match was that he was totally depressed and didn't want to play ?? or did Soderling actually do something right ? or right strategy ?
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Ok, was the ONLY reason that rafa lost that match was that he was totally depressed and didn't want to play ?? or did Soderling actually do something right ? or right strategy ?

It's probably a little bit of both.

Nadal was definitely burned out from all of the matches that he played during the earlier parts of the year. He played this match at a level that was far below his best.

However, Soderling also executed very well. Aside from the second set tie-break, there was really never a point where he let up against Nadal.

I think that even on his best day, Nadal would have struggled to beat this version of Soderling.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
It's probably a little bit of both.

Nadal was definitely burned out from all of the matches that he played during the earlier parts of the year. He played this match at a level that was far below his best.

However, Soderling also executed very well. Aside from the second set tie-break, there was really never a point where he let up against Nadal.

I think that even on his best day, Nadal would have struggled to beat this version of Soderling.

what was Soderling doing to Nadal that was hurting him ?? because when he played against Federer in the final, it looked like Soderling sucked
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
what was Soderling doing to Nadal that was hurting him ?? because when he played against Federer in the final, it looked like Soderling sucked

Soderling had better depth on his shots than Rafael Nadal and also better consistency.

He was able to hit through the high-kicking Nadal topspin and frequently pinned him in defensive positions.

Soderling also served really well in this match and that actually played a major factor in the outcome as Nadal had very few opportunities to break serve.

Oddly enough, I never got the feeling that Soderling really wanted to win that match against Federer.

He came out playing very subdued and almost seemed happy for Roger when he won.

I thought it was a terrible match from Soderling. Especially when you consider how well he had played to reach the finals.

Although, he sure paid Fed back in RG 2010.
 
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CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Yes, it was talked about quite a bit at the time. People forget, but the inaugural 2009 Madrid clay Masters was the final tournament leading into RG. In the initial tournament, Nadal couldn't find his forehand. He was having trouble adjusting to the altitude. Heading into RG, Nadal fans were worried the altitude had thrown him off. Whether or not it played a factor, it was certainly discussed. Rome then became the lead in tournament a year or two later.

Nadal has had a lot of tough losses in Madrid over the years.

In 2011 Djokovic gets his first ever win against Nadal on clay.

In 2012 he loses early to Verdasco. First loss to him ever.

2015 he loses a very one sided final to Andy Murray.

For some reason this tournament has never clicked with Nadal.

He owns twice as many titles at the Italian Open and more than double that amount at Monte Carlo and the French.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
For some reason this tournament has never clicked with Nadal.

He owns twice as many titles at the Italian Open and more than double that amount at Monte Carlo and the French.
True, but it’s a bit exaggerated because in the first 4 years of his clay dominance (2005-2008) there was no Madrid clay masters. And then in 2012 there was the blue clay tournament which had quite different conditions.
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Fed devotees have celebrated Rafa's loss for over a decade. Their celebration always remind me of what happened in 2010:

D75NBy4XoAEDs8y


2010 FO final:
6ba5d76b50884236a6bcd6b2d541c73f.jpg

Woohoo!

2010 FO trophy ceremony:
previews_0012_custom_1541509044.2664.jpg

yes-fist-pump-smiley-emoticon.gif

Between the two of them, I would say that Federer definitely got the better end of the deal.

They split the titles at the French Open between 2009-10.

However, Nadal's record was marred coming out of the 2010 French at 38-1.

Where as Federer had redeemed himself by completing the career grand slam.

Nobody cared about Federer's w/l record at the French Open.

However, I do feel that the loss to Soderling did hurt Nadal's legacy (at Roland Garros) somewhat.
 
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Deleted member 770948

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I remember being 100% sure that Rafa would win that 4th Set tiebreaker.
And I had completely forgotten that Soderling had pushed Rafa to a 7-5 5th Set at Wimbledon 2007.
Not that Wimbledon means anything when Rafa is at Roland Garros, but Soderling had certainly proven that he could match-up well with Rafa IF one was to believe Soderling had become a decent claycourter....
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
I remember being 100% sure that Rafa would win that 4th Set tiebreaker.
And I had completely forgotten that Soderling had pushed Rafa to a 7-5 5th Set at Wimbledon 2007.
Not that Wimbledon means anything when Rafa is at Roland Garros, but Soderling had certainly proven that he could match-up well with Rafa IF one was to believe Soderling had become a decent claycourter....

Indeed. Their match at Wimbledon in 2010 was also very close.

And that was back when Nadal was near the peak of his abilities on grass.

I'd say that Soderling matched-up very well against Nadal in those years.

He was maybe his biggest threat until Djokovic came around.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Between the two of them, I would say that Federer definitely got the better end of the deal.

They split the titles at the French Open between 2009-10.

However, Nadal's record was marred coming out of the 2010 French at 38-1.

Where as Federer had redeemed himself by completing the career grand slam.

Nobody cared about Federer's w/l record at the French Open.

However, I do feel that the loss to Soderling did hurt Nadal's legacy (at Roland Garros) somewhat.

Your comment again made me remember the match "nobody cared about" (according to you):

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tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Even though Soderling was a seeded player and a staple in the top 50/30 for some time before then, it still has the ring of possibly the biggest upset of all time to me.

In five previous appearances at Roland Garros, Soderling had won all of three matches. This was his first time ever, at any slam, making it to the round of 16. At that time, he had three carpet 250 titles to his name, with all his other final appearances on the main tour occurring on indoor hard at the 500 level or lower. He was practically an indoor specialist – in fact, his win rate on indoor courts is 74% compared to just 60% on outdoor courts. At the clay Masters, for his entire career, he's an even 50% in matches won, never having even reached a semifinal. The only clay titles he ever won came at Båstad, twice. He was tall and relatively slow with flat strokes and seemingly not much touch or finesse or creativity in his game. He was about the last person you would pick to finally beat Nadal at the French. Yet for some reason he just came alive at Roland Garros and made back-to-back finals beating a slew of top players, most of whom are pretty dang good on clay – in addition to Nadal, he beat Federer, Ferrer, Davydenko, Berdych, Gonzalez, and Cilic in those two years.

So no, I don't think anyone predicted that result, and it's still quite baffling to this day (though thankfully not a complete one-off with Soderling becoming a solid top-10/top-5 player and repeating his success at the French).
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
I remember ****posting on the other large tennis forum about how he was gonna lose before the match. I remember being pissed but not terribly surprised. He looked totally rattled/burnt out after the M09 semi with Nole and I remember watching him put up lopsided scores in the first couple rounds despite not being impressed with his game. OTOH, his Rome match with Soderling was one of the most atypical, brutal bagel/breadsticks you’ll see. Plus Robin loved to challenge Nadal and had the perfect toolset to take it to him - nearly got him at W07, despite Nadal being better that year than W08 IMO.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
I remember ****posting on the other large tennis forum about how he was gonna lose before the match. I remember being pissed but not terribly surprised. He looked totally rattled/burnt out after the M09 semi with Nole and I remember watching him put up lopsided scores in the first couple rounds despite not being impressed with his game. OTOH, his Rome match with Soderling was one of the most atypical, brutal bagel/breadsticks you’ll see. Plus Robin loved to challenge Nadal and had the perfect toolset to take it to him - nearly got him at W07, despite Nadal being better that year than W08 IMO.

Do you think the outcome of the match would have been different if the conditions on that day had been sunny or it had not mattered anyway?
:cautious:

Also, I think Nadal was a bit better in 2008 at Wimbledon than the previous year.
:)
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Are you really insane to rate Nadal's upset at RG lower than fed's upset at RG??
Probably a mahan chaman ch**iya will do it.
Hmm. I already said that Fed devotees' celebration of Rafa's loss (that has lasted for over a decade) always reminds me of what happened in 2010.
 
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