Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
Is the RDX 500 / RDS 001 Mid a big difference to the MidPlus?
Which one is better for control, power, serving, volleying, topspin.
Which one is better for control, power, serving, volleying, topspin.
Differences Yonex RDX / RDS Mid 90 & MidPlus 98
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Ztalin
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Lleyton Hewitt said:
From what I've heard about the RDX (I've never used the mid).
Control- Mid
Power- Midplus
Serving- Mid
Volleying- ??????
Topspin- Midplus
Volleying might go to the mid, but I can't recall hearing about a difference between the two.
Lleyton Hewitt said:
Amazingly, i'm replying to this without hitting with both to compare, purely on the basis of what is deemed to be regular common knowledge.
Control: Common consensus says that a smaller head allows more control.
Power: Common consensus says that a larger head gives more power.
Serving: This will come down to who you are and what you want. Players that have the skill & accuracy & power to use the mid will appreciate it, those who need a bit more * racquet-power will appreciate the midplus.
Volleying: See serving, but replace the bit after the * with "frame & sweet-spot size to allow for lesser skill will appreciate the midplus".
Topspin: I'm not sure. I would think a smaller frame is more manouverable & thus allow more spin, but then there's the whole string-movement-produces-spin argument. I can say that the 001 mid felt like a massive spin-stick compared to my mp-tour mid-plus, but they're not the comparisons you want.
Oh - tennis-warehouse does a pretty damn good write-up on both on the 001 sales page, and include references to the rdx 500.
Redflea
Hall of Fame
My personal experience (caveat emptor: I currently use a RDX Mid full time):
control - Mid, hands down
power - Mid Plus, but not excessively so, the MP is still a relatively low-power frame
serving - Mid, hands down
volleying - Mid, but requires better technique/eyes than the MP
topspin - I hit pretty flat FH, top/slice OHBH, found the mid excellent for that, MP easier to spin on FH, worse on my OHBH
For me, the MP is a pale shadow of the Mid overall...not nearly as solid, stable, and precise. However, others here like the MP very much, so the usualy subjective issues are at play that make it so interesting to read opinions in this forum.
I actually liked the RDS 001 MP much better than the RDX 500 MP. I'd probably recommend that over the RDX MP.
control - Mid, hands down
power - Mid Plus, but not excessively so, the MP is still a relatively low-power frame
serving - Mid, hands down
volleying - Mid, but requires better technique/eyes than the MP
topspin - I hit pretty flat FH, top/slice OHBH, found the mid excellent for that, MP easier to spin on FH, worse on my OHBH
For me, the MP is a pale shadow of the Mid overall...not nearly as solid, stable, and precise. However, others here like the MP very much, so the usualy subjective issues are at play that make it so interesting to read opinions in this forum.
I actually liked the RDS 001 MP much better than the RDX 500 MP. I'd probably recommend that over the RDX MP.
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
So im guessing that the RDX 500 and RDS 001 Mid are better than the midplus.
I will be getting one of the rackets, not sure which one with luxilon big banger alu power string but i dont no what tension to have it at.
I will be getting one of the rackets, not sure which one with luxilon big banger alu power string but i dont no what tension to have it at.
Lleyton Hewitt said:
Better? No. It's impossible to say one racquet is "better" than another. One racquet might be "more suitable" for you than another....
I'm willing to go out on a limb and say, for headsize-reasons alone, if nothing else, any mid-plus frame would be more suitable for most of the playing population - not pros - just for MOST of the people world-wide who play tennis (larger sweetspot, a bit more power), but it still doesn't make it a better racquet. See what I mean?
Anyways - the same advice I give to anyone applies when it comes to racquets - demo and demo again. If you're considering buying a new frame, demo as many as you can, and pick the one you play best with! Don't limit it just to Yonex just because you (presumably) like Lleyton either - hit with as many racquets as you can, find what helps you play best!
siber222000
Semi-Pro
i would go for rds 001 mid!! cuz i heard it has more power than rdx 500 mid and tahts wat i need! 
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
anyone no what tension i can string the luxilon big banger power alu at
JediMindTrick
Hall of Fame
The RDX mid is better than the midplus for volleying.
FH2FH
Professional
I was thinking of upgrading to, so if anyone has more comments...?
I found the power difference between the RDX mid & MP to be enormous, but I used them over a year apart. I also never restrung the mid b/c I knew it wasn't the racquet for me at the time, but now...
I play with the MP now and have tried many string setups, currently kevlar. I'm pretty comfortable with the racquet on most strokes, but would like something slightly lighter and stiffer.
My previous racquet, and best all around, was a slightly weighted 300G strung with a 16g poly hybrid. Even slightly weighted (10g + poly), it was still a bit underpowered/unstable. Unfortunately I broke my last one during a serve a week ago.
My tendency is to get lazy with lighter racquets and wrist my shots. I need something just over 11oz, 305-310 SW, HL, and with an open pattern. I want to try the RDS 001 MP.
I found the power difference between the RDX mid & MP to be enormous, but I used them over a year apart. I also never restrung the mid b/c I knew it wasn't the racquet for me at the time, but now...
I play with the MP now and have tried many string setups, currently kevlar. I'm pretty comfortable with the racquet on most strokes, but would like something slightly lighter and stiffer.
My previous racquet, and best all around, was a slightly weighted 300G strung with a 16g poly hybrid. Even slightly weighted (10g + poly), it was still a bit underpowered/unstable. Unfortunately I broke my last one during a serve a week ago.
My tendency is to get lazy with lighter racquets and wrist my shots. I need something just over 11oz, 305-310 SW, HL, and with an open pattern. I want to try the RDS 001 MP.
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
What are the differences between mid and midplus yonex rdx or rds. Obviously i no 8 inch in sq cm for the headsize but i mean with your game. I currently have a mp tour-1 xf 98. I want the rdx 500 or rds 001 mid. Will this make a huge difference to my game? If so what kind ov differences.
Return_Ace
Hall of Fame
your xf is the lighter version of the mptour 1 and is .5" longer
so you'll have more wieght and a shorter racket.
so you'll have more wieght and a shorter racket.
FH2FH
Professional
Lleyton, your racquet is 5pts head heavy, 1/2in longer, 8sq/in larger (and much stiffer than the RDX). Those are fairly significant in adding power. Not sure about the swingweight and what you're looking for; more, less, same?
I think you will have more control with one of the mids, but you probably will be searching for power (all strokes) while you're adjusting to it. You can however add lead, string looser, use diff strings, etc to balance the lack of power, but those only go so far.
I would definitely demo since these are not really similar except for the brand.
Good luck!
I think you will have more control with one of the mids, but you probably will be searching for power (all strokes) while you're adjusting to it. You can however add lead, string looser, use diff strings, etc to balance the lack of power, but those only go so far.
I would definitely demo since these are not really similar except for the brand.
Good luck!
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snoflewis
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Lleyton Hewitt said:
why don't you demo both and find out for yourself. like i've been saying in all your other threads regarding these frames, if you like one, you won't like the other. there is a big difference in weight between the RDS001s but not as much between the rdx500. the two MP versions are pretty similar in weight...just the stiffness are different.
Redflea
Hall of Fame
Snoflewis is right...you need to demo them...no one's comments are going to be as useful to you as your own!!
Between the RDX Mid and RDS Mid:
I demo'd the RDS 001 Mid....it actually didn't feel as different from my RDX Mid as I expected it to based on the stats.
The additional stiffness of the RDS wasn't as "bad" as I thought it would be, and the RDS did swing heavier, but not so much that I was late on shots over a set and a half or so using it. RDS did provide more power, which most might appreciate. I was able to switch between the two during a match with a friend and I didn't feel like I had to make a big adjustment. I still prefer the wet noodle feel (as my buddy refers to it) of my RDX, but could use the RDS as well.
Between the RDX/RDS Mid and RDS MP:
I hit w/the RDS MP again yesterday (one set, went to tiebreaker, so 12 games). A nice racquet, though I had to adjust to the additional power...it has more than the RDX MP. Initially I was hitting a lot of service returns long on both wings w/the MP, and had some problems w/my forehand (which is relatively flat most of the time) as well. If I was going to buy this racquet I'd likely string it tighter than the demo (which was at mid-point tension) to tone down the power a bit. I would definitely inlude the RDS MP in a demo list over the RDX MP.
The RDS MP has a good solid feel like the RDX/RDS, more power and larger sweet spot. Volleys very easily, and is still very maneuverable in spite of the larger head. If I wanted/needed the extra power that the RDS MP offers, I would be happy to use it.
I wasn't playing a heavy hitter yesterday (more of an angles/spin guy) so I didn't get a good feel as to how it would fare up against a heavier ball. Felt solid on his hardest shots, but he's not a boomer...
Stop asking, and go demo.
(I should note that my first reply above was regarding RDX Mid vs. RDX MP.)
Between the RDX Mid and RDS Mid:
I demo'd the RDS 001 Mid....it actually didn't feel as different from my RDX Mid as I expected it to based on the stats.
The additional stiffness of the RDS wasn't as "bad" as I thought it would be, and the RDS did swing heavier, but not so much that I was late on shots over a set and a half or so using it. RDS did provide more power, which most might appreciate. I was able to switch between the two during a match with a friend and I didn't feel like I had to make a big adjustment. I still prefer the wet noodle feel (as my buddy refers to it) of my RDX, but could use the RDS as well.
Between the RDX/RDS Mid and RDS MP:
I hit w/the RDS MP again yesterday (one set, went to tiebreaker, so 12 games). A nice racquet, though I had to adjust to the additional power...it has more than the RDX MP. Initially I was hitting a lot of service returns long on both wings w/the MP, and had some problems w/my forehand (which is relatively flat most of the time) as well. If I was going to buy this racquet I'd likely string it tighter than the demo (which was at mid-point tension) to tone down the power a bit. I would definitely inlude the RDS MP in a demo list over the RDX MP.
The RDS MP has a good solid feel like the RDX/RDS, more power and larger sweet spot. Volleys very easily, and is still very maneuverable in spite of the larger head. If I wanted/needed the extra power that the RDS MP offers, I would be happy to use it.
I wasn't playing a heavy hitter yesterday (more of an angles/spin guy) so I didn't get a good feel as to how it would fare up against a heavier ball. Felt solid on his hardest shots, but he's not a boomer...
Stop asking, and go demo.
(I should note that my first reply above was regarding RDX Mid vs. RDX MP.)
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
Price is a factor, the rdx 500 mid is £56 and RDS 001 is £96 plus i want to string it with luxilon big banger alu power at £17
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
I am from Rochdale/Manchester what racket are u trying to get a demo of
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
argh rough salford aint it. lots of chinese people there too
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
MP Tour-1 XF.....i am getting the RDX 500 Mid
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
urself....
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
i know he uses the RDS 001 Mid but i think he uses the Super RD Tour 90 but with a paintjob according to some threads. The RDS 001 is too expensive
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
Im not going to demo at all, go with my instinct
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
erm i dont no, better of finding a uk website that provides demos
Lleyton Hewitt
Professional
I think it is too expensive shipping try *p*w*p.com *pro*direct*tennis.com milletsports.com tennis*direct*online.com (europe)
