Do you smoke?

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Ever since I know myself I've been against it, giving the usual, repetitive, a bit irritating advice to people around me that regularly smoke, especially my peers. Though my parents stopped over a decade ago, which totally erased the image of them smoking in my head, I have also poked and criticized them for smoking for over 30 years. "What were you thinking" and stuff like that. It was more of a teasing, funny way than anything, plus that's one of very few things where I can say I will be a better example to any future kids than my parents have been to me. Personally, I tried one cigarette at one of the 18th birthday parties a bit less than three years ago and didn't like it at all. If anything, it convinced me even more that I will never have issues of that sort. For that reason, I decided I will only have one or two if there is some special occasion, which is a pretty similar approach to the one I have with alcohol. Even though there were several occasions from that point on, I didn't do it every time. That's how firm I was.

In the last month or so it changed though. One day at the end of May I hanged out with two of my colleagues, regular smokers, and had two of those symbolical cigarettes. A certain sports event went the way we liked and we had a minor celebration about it. Since then however there have been more days when I smoked than the days when I didn't. It was never a level of a regular smoker that goes through an entire pack or two per day. Mostly two cigarettes during a day. The maximum was six I think. There are some reasons I never went to a higher level, the level of most addicts. First of all, they were just as or more disgusting as they were good, I couldn't reach that level even if I tried. Secondly, even though none of the people close to me know about this little problem, I really don't want to be a hypocrite and criticize them for smoking when I've been kinda doing the same thing, even secretly. And most importantly, as a child I was battling bronchitis several times, which was quite irritating, while in the last 8 years or so I can proudly say I had no major health issues despite not being physically active. Almost no colds, fevers, stomachaches at all. No headaches ever. I had one eye nerve problem in 2014 that completely freaked me out at the time it was discovered but later when it turned out to be nothing serious, it made me appreciate health and focus on being healthy more than ever. And for these reasons, now I am also going to revert back to smoking only on some very special occasions, maybe not even then. Going back to firm mode again, starting... Now.

What are your experiences? If you ever were addicted before, was it difficult to stop? Are you currently addicted?

Whoever plans to reply, I'd appreciate if it's on topic and not some lame joke about sureshs.
 
I do not smoke.
Well, maybe some smoke emerges when driving aggressively with a manual transmission in a car that enjoys quiet, curvy mountain roads.

I have tried a cig, a cigar, a pipe, and something handrolled. Did not go beyond one time with any.
I really like the smell of tobacco before the flame hits it. That's when it stops appealing to me.

So...you are in your twenties...keep jabbing your folks about it. Stay off it. I feel the same way about alcohol. So much fun to be had without it. People drink and smoke because they think it makes life more fun. Or because they are supposed to. Cool factor? Nah. Nonsense. Waste of time, money, effort, money, and time.

Too many better options to commune with people....or be alone.
Reading, walking, sweating, talking, eating, helping eachother, and working.
Too many better things to taste and smell. Vegetables, wood-grilled foods, spices, fungi, fruits.
Too many better ways to get a buzz naturally.

The money my smoking/drinking friends have spent, i have been blessed enough to use on more than my share of travel, concerts, shoes, frames, pirellis, michelins, vs gut, and on my house, wife and kids. Oh, and investments.
 
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jaggy

Talk Tennis Guru
Times have changed. In the 80s I was a very good recreational player, probably at least what would now be classified a 5.0 (there were no ratings then where I played). Probably half the men at my level smoked. Sometimes on court during the warm up although that was rare. i remember one guy doing sit ups outside once and he was smoking while he did them. I played at a club where a woman had played on the pro squash tour and she was a heavy smoker (she was in her mid 20s). As I say times change.
 
A set of natural gut costs just four times more than a pack of cigarettes.
I estimate it at about 40 or fifty times the high.

Ten packs of cigarettes cost as much as a really nice dinner with a friend. Or a pair of good tennis shoes.

Four to six packs of cigarettes cost what a concert ticket might.

One pack is as much as nine songs on itunes.

Fill up your car with gas for the cost of a few packs.

Ten packs will serve you well in prison. But not too many other places.

Stay off that sh!te.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
A set of natural gut costs just four times more than a pack of cigarettes.
I estimate it at about 40 or fifty times the high.

Ten packs of cigarettes cost as much as a really nice dinner with a friend. Or a pair of good tennis shoes.

Four to six packs of cigarettes cost what a concert ticket might.

One pack is as much as nine songs on itunes.

Fill up your car with gas for the cost of a few packs.

Ten packs will serve you well in prison. But not too many other places.

Stay off that sh!te.
My older sister was born in Germany in 1947. My father told the story of paying for her birth certificate in cigarettes...depending on the night he yarned about it, the cost was from two to four packs. For a serviceman back then, a pack cost well less than a quarter.
 
We were at a restaurant and bar with another couple last night. Server was a nice 23 yr oald, who explained to us he had to step out for a few minutes, and if we needed anything, Jennifer over there would gladly help us.
We didn't need a thing. He returned after five minutes smelling of cigarette smoke. Obvious, noticeable....addicted. Luckily, it was a slow night or a slow time, so he got away with a cigarette break. But i felt so sad for him, that he was clearly a slave to his cigarette break.

Stay off that sh!te, man. Better to be addicted to many other things.
 

fireandwind

Hall of Fame
Never smoked and never will. IMHO, smoking is the most unhealthy, foolish, money wasting habit. Everyone should stop it. Even the word "moderate" doesn't apply for smoking.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
I love smoking, @Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil - All my friends smoked. My coolest trick was to smoke while playing guitar in bands. I smoked 20 a day for 10 years or so, then quit when my firstborn entered this world. I smoke a cigarette every now and then, mostly if I'm in a good mood after a few drinks in the right company. I enjoy the occational Cohibo accompanied by a glass of whisky after a good meal. Who doesn't? We're only gonna die, and I am convinced it's healthier to enjoy life than to worry about it.

I have absolutely never told anyone to quit. I think it's rude to have too strong opinions on other people's habits.

My grandfather said, at 85 or so, that the one thing he regreted the most in life, was that he had stopped smoking. My other grandfather smoked until he died at 105.

Good thread!
 
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Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
fredwil.GIF


Yabba Dabba Don't! o_O
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I love smoking, @Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil - All my friends smoked. My coolest trick was to smoke while playing guitar in bands. I smoked 20 a day for 10 years or so, then quit when my firstborn entered this world. I smoke a cigarette every now and then, mostly if I'm in a good mood after a few drinks in the right company. I enjoy the occational Cohibo accompanied by a glass of whisky after a good meal. Who doesn't? We're only gonna die, and I am convinced it's healthier to enjoy life than to worry about it.

I have absolutely never told anyone to quit. I think it's rude to have too strong opinions on other people's habits.

My grandfather said, at 85 or so, that the one thing he regreted the most in life, was that he had stopped smoking. My other grandfather smoked until he died at 105.

Good thread!
Everything in moderation. After all it's a day we should remember Ben Franklin.

My father paid for his lack of moderation, dying at 73 from complications of daily smoking and drinking without ANY exercise. I keep my worst habits to a level I can overcome with as hard an amount of workout as I do regularly. If I had indulged at my dad's level, the pure misery would have had me pushing up daisies by choice years ago.

The money angle does bother me so I'll rein in a bit and try to nest egg the savings. It might amount to a frill, like a nice pair of shoes that don't kill my deformed feet I inherited from the other side of the tree.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Everything in moderation. After all it's a day we should remember Ben Franklin.

My father paid for his lack of moderation, dying at 73 from complications of daily smoking and drinking without ANY exercise. I keep my worst habits to a level I can overcome with as hard an amount of workout as I do regularly. If I had indulged at my dad's level, the pure misery would have had me pushing up daisies by choice years ago.

The money angle does bother me so I'll rein in a bit and try to nest egg the savings. It might amount to a frill, like a nice pair of shoes that don't kill my deformed feet I inherited from the other side of the tree.

Sorry to hear about your father, Tom. When I say enjoy life, I think I mean excactely what you mean: The joy is in the moderation. A nice bottle of wine can be really wonderful, but not every night. My desire for quality is bigger than ever. Quantity not so much (both captured at the same time below).

get.do
 
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ollinger

G.O.A.T.
My father's last years and death from emphysema, COPD the fashionable term now, was a horrendous thing to see, he having smoked heavily most of his life. My mother was, and remains at age 98, a health/nutrition fanatic who was concerned about second-hand smoke fifty years ago, so generally wouldn't let him smoke in the house or car. Wisely, when I was a little kid, my father lit a cigarette and said "I want you to see how awful these things are." I took a puff, nearly gagged from it, and never wanted another puff again.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sorry to hear about your father, Tom. When I say enjoy life, I think I mean excactely what you mean: The joy is in the moderation. A nice bottle of wine can be really wonderful, but not every night. My desire for quality is bigger than ever. Quantity not so much (both captured at the same time below).

get.do
Thanks. I've had 29 years to consider his choices and their consequences. I think he did OK with his life. I don't know why he couldn't value it a bit more.
 

QuentinFederer

Professional
I have never smoked, not even once. I don't even think I've touched a cigarette. As a child I always hated going to visit family/friends if there was a smoker in the house, the smell is disgusting.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Very interesting study published year ago in New England Journal of Medicine demonstrating how people delude themselves by thinking they've cut down on how much they smoke. The researchers had prepared cigarettes with a tracer in them that could be measured later, I don't recall exactly what they used as the study may have been about 20 years ago, but the tracer allowed them to measure how much "stuff" smokers were taking in, as a better measure than the number of cigs smoked. What they found was that smokers who previously smoked a pack or two a day were smoking each cigarette so intensely when they cut down that they were mostly taking in the same amount of "stuff" even when they cut down to about five cigs a day.
 
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Tiki-Taka

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I used to smoke, that lasted over 20 years. Had my last ones in May 2011 when I had a short visit to London. Now several years later my only regret is that I never even tried to quit sooner, because the quitting process turned out to be easy for me personally. It's tough to tell if quitting cigarettes helped me more in terms of health or money.
 

Raindogs

Hall of Fame
Sorry to hear about your father, Tom. When I say enjoy life, I think I mean excactely what you mean: The joy is in the moderation. A nice bottle of wine can be really wonderful, but not every night. My desire for quality is bigger than ever. Quantity not so much (both captured at the same time below).

get.do
What a great film that is. Worth a rewatch every year or so.
 

Raindogs

Hall of Fame
Vape Nation here.
I find that exhaling a massive plume during a changeover can really mess with an opponent's headspace.
Big storms a coming, they must be thinking.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
I very rarely smoked when hammered at parties, for some reason cigarettes helped me not pass out and hurl all over the place lol. I've never smoked regularly though, and I don't think I ever will, trying to play tennis once after smoking two cigarettes the night before at a party made me feel extremely unfit and it bothered me badly (I'm very competitive).

On special occasions I'll smoke a cigar with friends, but that's all. The restrictive cost of expensive cigars actually helps make it be a rare thing. Perhaps you should try moving to them, after cigars cigarettes are unbearably digusting I find haha
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
I do, but I wish I didn't. It's filthy, stains my walls, burns my clothes when ash drops on my shirt or jacket and is bloody expensive to boot but at the same time it's just so, so hard to quit. Just over a year ago I actually limited myself to one a day with a cup of tea in the morning and used my e-cig for the rest of the day and tbh I found it surprisingly easy to adjust to but then my sister and her partner came to stay with me for six weeks after being evicted and before I knew it I was back to smoking eight Rothmans superkings again due to the stress. In a few weeks time I'll be going to visit my mum in Spain and would like to drop a few pounds before then so recently I've been eating just an apple throughout the day, drinking plenty of diet pepsi and smoking more than usual to dull the hunger pains. It's not exactly advisable behaviour for someone who's suffered from an eating disorder and I'm not proud of it but life is hard and I'm far from perfect.
 

JoelDali

Talk Tennis Guru
My companion and I woak up in the hazy twilight of a crispy cool Las Vegas morning at the Venetian and after sharing an intensified Mutually Timed Sureshian Release(TM) I ran down to the casino and bought a pack. We each had a Marlboro Light 100 and watched Behind the Music: Journey. Heading to Circus Circus in a few to play Defender and Stargate.
 
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Deleted member 716271

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Nope, never seen the appeal. Dont like weed either.

Black tar heroin on the other hand...
 

chikoo

Hall of Fame
I buy a new pair of shoes every other month. Friends/colleague question how I can afford it. I tell them I dont smoke or chew tobacco, which most of them do either or both. They quit asking.
 
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