Draws handpicked for the top seeds??!!

George Turner

Hall of Fame
This is a baseless conspiracy thread. I'll get that out the way to start.

I'm rating the difficulty of the draws of the top 8 seeds, before their quarter final matches. The top 8 seeds could all potentially have any of these draws before the quarter finals. I have put them in order of difficulty, hardest at the top.
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Anderson, world rank 8. Potential match against Gilles Muller in round 3, Querrey Round 4. Two of the worst opponents to meet early on at Wimbledon.

Thiem, world rank 7. The unpredictable Nando in round 3, (3-0 H2H vs Thiem) Djokovic round 4. Not a draw anyone would want. Normally i'd rate this as harder than Andersons draw, but with Djokovics questionable form and Nando prone to being a fiasco, i'll rate it as marginally easier.

Dimitrov, world rank 6. Stan round 1, the upcoming Tsitsipas round 3, Isner round 4. Stan shouldn't be a problem, his name is much bigger than his ability on grass. But Tsit and Isner are both dangerous opponents.

Del Potro, world rank 5. Half fit Murray/Shapo round 3, Goffin round 4. Murrays not in top shape and Shapo hasn't been playing well recently. But they still both have potential to beat Del Po. Goffin can also trouble Del Po despite not really being a grass courter.

Cilic, World rank 3. No dangerous opponents until round 4 when he would face Raonic, the best servebot in the draw. If he's fit, that's a challenging 4th round draw for the number 3 seed.

A. Zverev, world rank 4. A potential rematch against Dzumhur in round 3!! On paper this is an easy Zverev win that hopefully won't go five sets again. Kyrgios in round 4 is obviously a potential danger. However you don't know if he'll turn up and no one else in this section looks dangerous. Zverev should be fairly happy with this draw.

Federer, world rank 2. A safe looking draw in Mayer and Coric, the latters win at Halle will have little relevance. A good draw for Federer, though not quite the easiest possible draw.

Nadal, world rank 1. Has one of the easiest possible draws in Cecchinato and Schwartzman. Between them they've won a combined two career grass court matches (both by Cecc in this years Eastbourne.) Most potentially dangerous opponent in this section is M. Zverev :eek:

Clearly there's a huge conspiracy here, as the higher ranked players are being blessed with easier draws. Did anyone seriously think Djokovic or Murray would be drawn against Fedal before the quarters?? Did anyone really think Nadal would face Muller and Querrey before the quarters?? That would not be a good idea, so best dump them in the same section as Anderson. No one's gonna cry if Anderson loses early are they.

Talk conspiracies here.
 

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Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Wimbledon doesn’t use computer draws though right? From the radio it sounded like they were all drafted from a lottery (that ball thing they do). I may be wrong but it seemed fairly straight forward, I’m not a fan of computer generated draws and I didn’t think Wimbledon did that ?
 

George Turner

Hall of Fame
IMO the top seeds SHOULD have easier draws. Isn't that what seeding is all about?

A top 8 seed will draw anyone ranked 17-24 round 3, anyone ranked 9-16 round 4. In those rounds Nadal is supposed to be as likely to draw Nando and Djokovic as Thiem is.

When it comes to majors I would question the seeding system following the computer rankings so closely, Schwartzman for example should never be a Wimbledon seed even if he'd just won the French, unless he started winning some matches on grass.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
This is a baseless conspiracy thread. I'll get that out the way to start.

I'm rating the difficulty of the draws of the top 8 seeds, before their quarter final matches. The top 8 seeds could all potentially have any of these draws before the quarter finals. I have put them in order of difficulty, hardest at the top.
.
Anderson, world rank 8. Potential match against Gilles Muller in round 3, Querrey Round 4. Two of the worst opponents to meet early on at Wimbledon.

Thiem, world rank 7. The unpredictable Nando in round 3, (3-0 H2H vs Thiem) Djokovic round 4. Not a draw anyone would want. Normally i'd rate this as harder than Andersons draw, but with Djokovics questionable form and Nando prone to being a fiasco, i'll rate it as marginally easier.

Dimitrov, world rank 6. Stan round 1, the upcoming Tsitsipas round 3, Isner round 4. Stan shouldn't be a problem, his name is much bigger than his ability on grass. But Tsit and Isner are both dangerous opponents.

Del Potro, world rank 5. Half fit Murray/Shapo round 3, Goffin round 4. Murrays not in top shape and Shapo hasn't been playing well recently. But they still both have potential to beat Del Po. Goffin can also trouble Del Po despite not really being a grass courter.

Cilic, World rank 3. No dangerous opponents until round 4 when he would face Raonic, the best servebot in the draw. If he's fit, that's a challenging 4th round draw for the number 3 seed.

A. Zverev, world rank 4. A potential rematch against Dzumhur in round 3!! On paper this is an easy Zverev win that hopefully won't go five sets again. Kyrgios in round 4 is obviously a potential danger. However you don't know if he'll turn up and no one else in this section looks dangerous. Zverev should be fairly happy with this draw.

Federer, world rank 2. A safe looking draw in Mayer and Coric, the latters win at Halle will have little relevance. A good draw for Federer, though not quite the easiest possible draw.

Nadal, world rank 1. Has one of the easiest possible draws in Cecchinato and Schwartzman. Between them they've won a combined two career grass court matches (both by Cecc in this years Eastbourne.) Most potentially dangerous opponent in this section is M. Zverev :eek:

Clearly there's a huge conspiracy here, as the higher ranked players are being blessed with easier draws. Did anyone seriously think Djokovic or Murray would be drawn against Fedal before the quarters?? Did anyone really think Nadal would face Muller and Querrey before the quarters?? That would not be a good idea, so best dump them in the same section as Anderson. No one's gonna cry if Anderson loses early are they.

Talk conspiracies here.

First of all, nobody in the tennis industry cares about Anderson, Thiem, Dimitrov, Cilic, Zverev or even Del Potro (outside of Miami). Nobody in the majors would bother to launch a conspiracy to ensure these guys would have a favorable draw or assist them in any way. Outside of their home countries or in 250 events, none of these guys puts people in the stands. A casual sports fan would never have heard of any of them. The only players that would be worth a "conspiracy plot" are Fed and Nadal because they are overwhelmingly the two (the only two) stars in the sport.

A final with either Fed or Nadal ensures massive money to the organizers and advertisers. Aside from hardcore tennis fans, who is turning on or showing up to an Anderson-Thiem final at Wimbledon?
 
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Federev

Legend
This is a baseless conspiracy thread. I'll get that out the way to start.

I'm rating the difficulty of the draws of the top 8 seeds, before their quarter final matches. The top 8 seeds could all potentially have any of these draws before the quarter finals. I have put them in order of difficulty, hardest at the top.
.
Anderson, world rank 8. Potential match against Gilles Muller in round 3, Querrey Round 4. Two of the worst opponents to meet early on at Wimbledon.

Thiem, world rank 7. The unpredictable Nando in round 3, (3-0 H2H vs Thiem) Djokovic round 4. Not a draw anyone would want. Normally i'd rate this as harder than Andersons draw, but with Djokovics questionable form and Nando prone to being a fiasco, i'll rate it as marginally easier.

Dimitrov, world rank 6. Stan round 1, the upcoming Tsitsipas round 3, Isner round 4. Stan shouldn't be a problem, his name is much bigger than his ability on grass. But Tsit and Isner are both dangerous opponents.

Del Potro, world rank 5. Half fit Murray/Shapo round 3, Goffin round 4. Murrays not in top shape and Shapo hasn't been playing well recently. But they still both have potential to beat Del Po. Goffin can also trouble Del Po despite not really being a grass courter.

Cilic, World rank 3. No dangerous opponents until round 4 when he would face Raonic, the best servebot in the draw. If he's fit, that's a challenging 4th round draw for the number 3 seed.

A. Zverev, world rank 4. A potential rematch against Dzumhur in round 3!! On paper this is an easy Zverev win that hopefully won't go five sets again. Kyrgios in round 4 is obviously a potential danger. However you don't know if he'll turn up and no one else in this section looks dangerous. Zverev should be fairly happy with this draw.

Federer, world rank 2. A safe looking draw in Mayer and Coric, the latters win at Halle will have little relevance. A good draw for Federer, though not quite the easiest possible draw.

Nadal, world rank 1. Has one of the easiest possible draws in Cecchinato and Schwartzman. Between them they've won a combined two career grass court matches (both by Cecc in this years Eastbourne.) Most potentially dangerous opponent in this section is M. Zverev :eek:

Clearly there's a huge conspiracy here, as the higher ranked players are being blessed with easier draws. Did anyone seriously think Djokovic or Murray would be drawn against Fedal before the quarters?? Did anyone really think Nadal would face Muller and Querrey before the quarters?? That would not be a good idea, so best dump them in the same section as Anderson. No one's gonna cry if Anderson loses early are they.

Talk conspiracies here.
They were hand picked.

The pickers used tongs though.

So technically, tong picked.
 

Federev

Legend
This is a baseless conspiracy thread. I'll get that out the way to start.

I'm rating the difficulty of the draws of the top 8 seeds, before their quarter final matches. The top 8 seeds could all potentially have any of these draws before the quarter finals. I have put them in order of difficulty, hardest at the top.
.
Anderson, world rank 8. Potential match against Gilles Muller in round 3, Querrey Round 4. Two of the worst opponents to meet early on at Wimbledon.

Thiem, world rank 7. The unpredictable Nando in round 3, (3-0 H2H vs Thiem) Djokovic round 4. Not a draw anyone would want. Normally i'd rate this as harder than Andersons draw, but with Djokovics questionable form and Nando prone to being a fiasco, i'll rate it as marginally easier.

Dimitrov, world rank 6. Stan round 1, the upcoming Tsitsipas round 3, Isner round 4. Stan shouldn't be a problem, his name is much bigger than his ability on grass. But Tsit and Isner are both dangerous opponents.

Del Potro, world rank 5. Half fit Murray/Shapo round 3, Goffin round 4. Murrays not in top shape and Shapo hasn't been playing well recently. But they still both have potential to beat Del Po. Goffin can also trouble Del Po despite not really being a grass courter.

Cilic, World rank 3. No dangerous opponents until round 4 when he would face Raonic, the best servebot in the draw. If he's fit, that's a challenging 4th round draw for the number 3 seed.

A. Zverev, world rank 4. A potential rematch against Dzumhur in round 3!! On paper this is an easy Zverev win that hopefully won't go five sets again. Kyrgios in round 4 is obviously a potential danger. However you don't know if he'll turn up and no one else in this section looks dangerous. Zverev should be fairly happy with this draw.

Federer, world rank 2. A safe looking draw in Mayer and Coric, the latters win at Halle will have little relevance. A good draw for Federer, though not quite the easiest possible draw.

Nadal, world rank 1. Has one of the easiest possible draws in Cecchinato and Schwartzman. Between them they've won a combined two career grass court matches (both by Cecc in this years Eastbourne.) Most potentially dangerous opponent in this section is M. Zverev :eek:

Clearly there's a huge conspiracy here, as the higher ranked players are being blessed with easier draws. Did anyone seriously think Djokovic or Murray would be drawn against Fedal before the quarters?? Did anyone really think Nadal would face Muller and Querrey before the quarters?? That would not be a good idea, so best dump them in the same section as Anderson. No one's gonna cry if Anderson loses early are they.

Talk conspiracies here.
Hand (Tong) picked by rogue elements of the CIA, the anti-Castro Cubans, and the Mafia.
 

George Turner

Hall of Fame
First of all, nobody in the tennis industry cares about Anderson, Thiem, Dimitrov, Cilic, Zverev or even Del Potro (outside of Miami). Nobody in the majors would bother to launch a conspiracy to ensure these guys would have a favorable draw or assist them in any way. Outside of their home countries or in 250 events, none of these guys puts people in the stands. A casual sports fan would never have heard of any of them. The only players that would be worth a "conspiracy plot" are Fed and Nadal because they are overwhelmingly the two (the only two) stars in the sport.

A final with either Fed or Nadal ensures massive money to the organizers and advertisers. Aside from hardcore tennis fans, who is turning on or showing up to an Anderson-Thiem final at Wimbledon?

i would think the tennis industry cares to some extent about Them and Zverev, they've been desperately marketing the next gen. Though ofc Fedal are off the scale.

Have we gone down the golf path where only one or two stars matter? Golf gives blatant Favouritism to its stars, letting Phil Mickelson get away with hitting a moving golf ball. Are we at that stage?
 

ChrisRF

Legend
A top 8 seed will draw anyone ranked 17-24 round 3, anyone ranked 9-16 round 4. In those rounds Nadal is supposed to be as likely to draw Nando and Djokovic as Thiem is.
No, #1-4 always plays #13-16 in 4th round, while #5-8 plays #9-12.
In the 3rd round it’s #1-8 against #25-32 and #9-16 vs. #17-24.

So it’s not even possible for #1-4 to meet Djokovic (#12) before the QF. Murray is different though, as an unseeded Player he could possibly have the opening match on Monday against Federer of course.
 
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reaper

Legend
The part that does seem hand picked is Kyrgios vs A. Zverev due to meet in the 4th round. These 2 always seem to draw to meet as early as possible in tournaments, although often one of the 2 bomb out before the meeting.
 

George Turner

Hall of Fame
No, #1-4 always plays #13-16 in 4th round, while #5-8 plays #9-12.
In the 3rd round it’s #1-8 against #25-32 and #9-16 vs. #17-24.

So it’s not even possible for #1-4 to meet Djokovic (#12) before the final. Murray is different though, as an unseeded Player he could possibly have the opening match on Monday against Federer of course.

Well spotted, i overlooked that.

Seeds 3 and 4 Zed and Cil got Kyrgios and Raonic in round 4. Fedal got Coric and Schwartzman.

Still a conspiracy. ;)
 

aditya123

Hall of Fame
First of all, nobody in the tennis industry cares about Anderson, Thiem, Dimitrov, Cilic, Zverev or even Del Potro (outside of Miami). Nobody in the majors would bother to launch a conspiracy to ensure these guys would have a favorable draw or assist them in any way. Outside of their home countries or in 250 events, none of these guys puts people in the stands. A casual sports fan would never have heard of any of them. The only players that would be worth a "conspiracy plot" are Fed and Nadal because they are overwhelmingly the two (the only two) stars in the sport.

A final with either Fed or Nadal ensures massive money to the organizers and advertisers. Aside from hardcore tennis fans, who is turning on or showing up to an Anderson-Thiem final at Wimbledon?
I think you are being too harsh to Delpotro. He does pull the crowds, doesn't he????
 
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