Fed fans would you want him to make the F ?

BGod

G.O.A.T.
As a Roger Federer fan, that too diehard, I totally disagree with this. He won three majors. That's as much as Andy Murray won in his entire career!

Yeah but both Wimbledon & 18AO draws were powerfully weak. I guess you call it karma for getting Novak in 14-15 going through far better draws. 2017 AO was special though.
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
If Djokovic is there waiting ? Yes I know he would have a chance at 21 slams and in W19 he lost while playing better just unclutch but this Fed isn’t even near the level of 19 and it would be a expected loss to Djokovic.

Now I never let Fed fans have the excuse for old for W14 and 15 but to be fair if lost there would be no shame as he is nearly 40 and it would show his greatness getting to a W F at that age.
Now I don’t think he’ll make it but if he does.

Most likely Djokovic will go 4-1 against him at his slam, even though it would be expected and no shame in losing to a 34 year old Nole on for CYGS but the numbers still look bad.
The positive is Fed would have nothing to lose as everyone would expect the loss and it might help his legacy.

Obviously the answer would be yes to make the final but I mean in the way a loss to Djokovic would be never in doubt would you rather someone else to try and stop Djokovic and save a loss or just him being there ?

yes, over and over again. Once in the final, anything can happen, a retirement, anything. But for that, he needs to beat the rest.
 

Kuclas

Rookie
Fed won’t even make the semis. It’s a dream to make the finals. If he does. He still has no shot in finals. But it just shows the sad state of men’s professional tennis. These old guys are still winning.
Guys like Lendl Becker McEnroe and even Sampras were not top 5 players by age 32. Agassi lasted longer just cause he took years off the circuit.
 

duaneeo

Legend
The player still in the bottom half who I want to face Nole is the one who I think can possibly beat him. So to answer the question: Yes.
 

NoleIsBoat

Hall of Fame
Age is not an excuse...If you cant play retire.Federer is obviously elite athlete and if he reaches finals that means he was the best in his part of the draw.

As for the legacy he will not be the grass goat because there was someone better than him at that surface...

Losing four times to one player in finals will put a huge question mark on his grass goat claim...
Absolutely. How can Federer be modern Wimbledon GOAT when Djokovic is better than him there? 3-0 in finals with 4-0 on the cards.
 
Nothing is guaranteed...Fed can certainly beat Djoker if both were to play in the final.
if Federer makes the final and has beat Medvedev the world no.2 his confidence will be sky high. I would put money on Federer beating Djokovic in the final.
One huge mistake Ivanisevic made at FO was admitting it was better to play Nadal in the SF than the final as less stress for Novak. Didn’t seem much at the time but should Federer make the final to play Djokovic that comment will likely be told to him by his coaching team.
Federer has just beat two in form guys in norrie and sonego. He is 2nd fav for the event given his record v Medvedev.
 

pj80

Legend
if Federer makes the final and has beat Medvedev the world no.2 his confidence will be sky high. I would put money on Federer beating Djokovic in the final.
One huge mistake Ivanisevic made at FO was admitting it was better to play Nadal in the SF than the final as less stress for Novak. Didn’t seem much at the time but should Federer make the final to play Djokovic that comment will likely be told to him by his coaching team.
Federer has just beat two in form guys in norrie and sonego. He is 2nd fav for the event given his record v Medvedev.
Fed always has chance...10 years ago at the French he flew under the radar too, everyone expected Rafa-Nole final. Anything can happen if the 2 are the meet in Final. Fed looks almost like his 2019 level. As for Goran's words I don't think they will be a factor, both players know how it feels to be in the final especially vs each other.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Of course.

He'll either win a record 21st slam, or lose in the final, against a fellow ATG, aged almost 40 - which would be no disgrace.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Fed will lose badly, remember Fed was servebotting like crazy in 2014 and 2015, still managed to lose.
In 2019 final he had 25 aces vs Djokovic who is the best returner in history.

For comparison today vs Sonega he had only 4 aces and 60% 1st serve in, Djokovic would straight set him badly currently.
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
If Federer wins it would be a huge boost in his goat case because of his age and obviously 21 slam.

But if he loses it will bury him forever as weak era champ and inferior player...

It will make him or break him.That is my opinion.

How would a loss at 40 bury him? Federer whipped Djokovic’s ass when he was 32 and past his best at Wimbledon 2012. All of Djokovic’s wins came in Fed’s mid 30s and Djokovic still had to scrape by twice in 5 sets.
 

egrorian

Rookie
Fed will lose badly, remember Fed was servebotting like crazy in 2014 and 2015, still managed to lose.
In 2019 final he had 25 aces vs Djokovic who is the best returner in history.

For comparison today vs Sonega he had only 4 aces and 60% 1st serve in, Djokovic would straight set him badly currently.
Federer doesn't even seem to be trying for aces very often this year.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Yeah but both Wimbledon & 18AO draws were powerfully weak. I guess you call it karma for getting Novak in 14-15 going through far better draws. 2017 AO was special though.
I call those weak slams retribution for not winning slams in 2015. Would have been unfair not to win slams with that level, especially since it doesn't take a high level these days to win them.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
How would a loss at 40 bury him? Federer whipped Djokovic’s ass when he was 32 and past his best at Wimbledon 2012. All of Djokovic’s wins came in Fed’s mid 30’s and Djokovic still had to scrape by twice in 5 sets.
As I said before. The age doesn’t stand with Fed when 28-34 as Nadal and Djokovic have done the same as him at that age. Also Djokovic won in 4 in 2015 and bottling the 4th in 2014.

Though I do agree a loss to Djokovic here would do nothing to affect his legacy at 40. Would of been the same at W19 if he didn’t lose the way he did.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Would have wanted him to make the final, too bad call of duty happened

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Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
As I said before. The age doesn’t stand with Fed when 28-34 as Nadal and Djokovic have done the same as him at that age. Also Djokovic won in 4 in 2015 and bottling the 4th in 2014.

Though I do agree a loss to Djokovic here would do nothing to affect his legacy at 40. Would of been the same at W19 if he didn’t lose the way he did.

An older Djokovic is beating up on bums like Medvedev and Tsitsipas. The current version of Djokovic would get his ass whipped by a late 20’s Federer.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
As I said before. The age doesn’t stand with Fed when 28-34 as Nadal and Djokovic have done the same as him at that age. Also Djokovic won in 4 in 2015 and bottling the 4th in 2014.

Though I do agree a loss to Djokovic here would do nothing to affect his legacy at 40. Would of been the same at W19 if he didn’t lose the way he did.
Age perfectly stands though. Compare Fed's competition at 28-34 with Djokodal's. Night and day difference.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
An older Djokovic is beating up on bums like Medvedev and Tsitsipas. The current version of Djokovic would get his ass whipped by a late 20’s Federer.
At Wimbledon ? Yeah probably. But Djokovic beat Federer at say the AO at 20, 23, 28 and 32. Federer in his prime at Wimbledon is obviously better than this Djokovic. Still I feel he would find it hard due to the mental game both have.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Looks like 125 has been working overtime here.

As for Federer, if he and Djokovic are destined to go to war one last time, then I can't think of a better place for it to all come to an end than one last Wimbledon final. Either Federer gets the slam record back solely in his hands, or Djokovic ties it all up. You can't write a better ending to this one.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
Age perfectly stands though. Compare Fed's competition at 28-34 with Djokodal's. Night and day difference.
If you think so. But Djokovic only became the player he was when Fed was 28 so it’s hard to judge. Also you really shouldn’t include Nadal to back up your claims as even me who likes Fed more than Nadal knows that Nadal was destroying Fed in his prime when Nadal was a young lad
 

Indigo

Professional
Roger has the knowledge to beat Djoker in the finals for sure. But I think he physically can not compete with Novak. Novak will take him left and right just like he did with Nadal and could injure him due to that. Then he will turn him into Shankerer. Roger played very few competitive matches this year. Of course meeting Novak will be huge for him cause Novak is in his head at Wimbledon. If Roger beats Novak and wins in the finals he is GOAT forever and undisputed. That would be the greatest win in history of tennis, greatest comeback after injury and Roger can peacefully and happily retire as the greatest ever. Will this happen we will see soon.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
If you think so. But Djokovic only became the player he was when Fed was 28 so it’s hard to judge. Also you really shouldn’t include Nadal to back up your claims as even me who likes Fed more than Nadal knows that Nadal was destroying Fed in his prime when Nadal was a young lad
He wasn't destroying Fed in his prime, he just won a couple of razor sharp close matches.

And why shouldn't I include Nadal? He's vultured a bunch of slams since 2014 against some pretty soft competition. The reason he stands at 20.
 

Strale

Semi-Pro
How would a loss at 40 bury him? Federer whipped Djokovic’s ass when he was 32 and past his best at Wimbledon 2012. All of Djokovic’s wins came in Fed’s mid 30s and Djokovic still had to scrape by twice in 5 sets.
Federer is born way past his prime and Nadal is injured man playing tennis...

Whatever,Djokovic peaked at like 28,27 years old and that Djokovic would devour any Federer ever...
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Looks like 125 has been working overtime here.

As for Federer, if he and Djokovic are destined to go to war one last time, then I can't think of a better place for it to all come to an end than one last Wimbledon final. Either Federer gets the slam record back solely in his hands, or Djokovic ties it all up. You can't write a better ending to this one.
I definitely want Fed to reach the final. As a fan, nothing would make me happier other than him winning it.

But if it's a Fedovic final, I won't be watching. And I'll admit it right now.
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
He wasn't destroying Fed in his prime, he just won a couple of razor sharp close matches.

And why shouldn't I include Nadal? He's vultured a bunch of slams since 2014 against some pretty soft competition. The reason he stands at 20.
No sorry you are wrong Nadal won close matches on grass/HC which Fed should of been winning if he was this good in his prime. The matches on Clay were rarely ever close which is understandable but Nadal has 20 because of RG not because of weak competition. As I’ve said before Djokoerer are better over a whole season but Nadal on Clay is the highest level ever.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I definitely want Fed to reach the final. As a fan, nothing would make me happier other than him winning it.

But if it's a Fedovic final, I won't be watching. And I'll admit it right now.

You don't want to see him lose again to Djokovic in the final....I get it, but the guy is coming back from two surgeries and making the W final at nearly 40. If that isn't some epic grass GOAT stuff, I don't know what is. Of course you know where I stand if that final takes place, but Fed and his fans really have nothing to be down about if that match does happen. It's freaking insane, and just shows how good on grass he is, to virtually not have played for so long to then make the W final...
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
You don't want to see him lose again to Djokovic in the final....I get it, but the guy is coming back from two surgeries and making the W final at nearly 40. If that isn't some epic grass GOAT stuff, I don't know what is. Of course you know where I stand if that final takes place, but Fed and his fans really have nothing to be down about if that match does happen. It's freaking insane, and just shows how good on grass he is, to virtually not have played for so long to then make the W final...

Yeah it's basically a no lose situation for Fed. He shouldn't even be in the W final a few weeks shy of his 40th birthday.
 

bnjkn

Professional
I definitely want Fed to reach the final. As a fan, nothing would make me happier other than him winning it.

But if it's a Fedovic final, I won't be watching. And I'll admit it right now.
Do watch it. He's the best on grass and won't squander match points this time.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
No sorry you are wrong Nadal won close matches on grass/HC which Fed should of been winning if he was this good in his prime. The matches on Clay were rarely ever close which is understandable but Nadal has 20 because of RG not because of weak competition. As I’ve said before Djokoerer are better over a whole season but Nadal on Clay is the highest level ever.
Sure, Fed shouldn't have lost them, but every player loses matches he shouldn't lose or has bad losing streaks to another player.

Nadal lost 7 matches in a row to Djokovic, including 3 straight slam finals, 2 of them not even close matches. I guess that makes prime Nadal overrated.

Djokovic lost 2 USO finals to Nadal, one of them in his prime. And neither match was really that close. I guess that makes prime Djokovic overrated.

But of course, Fed losing 2 close matches to a younger rising rival is much worse than Nadal getting destroyed by Djokovic in back to back slam finals and Djokovic getting destroyed by Nadal in a HC slam final. :rolleyes:

And yes, Nadal has 20 because of weak competition at RG as well. This year kind of proved that if he had a consistent rival to actually push him physically, he may not have done as well as he has.
 

Sunny014

Legend
If you think so. But Djokovic only became the player he was when Fed was 28 so it’s hard to judge. Also you really shouldn’t include Nadal to back up your claims as even me who likes Fed more than Nadal knows that Nadal was destroying Fed in his prime when Nadal was a young lad

Nadal of 2000s was a greater beast on Grass and also on Clay, peak Djokovic might be mauled by that beast. Federer of 2000s too would maul peak Djokovic anywhere outside the Aus open.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
You don't want to see him lose again to Djokovic in the final....I get it, but the guy is coming back from two surgeries and making the W final at nearly 40. If that isn't some epic grass GOAT stuff, I don't know what is. Of course you know where I stand if that final takes place, but Fed and his fans really have nothing to be down about if that match does happen. It's freaking insane, and just shows how good on grass he is, to virtually not have played for so long to then make the W final...
I'll be satisfied with him reaching the final. After that, I won't bother watching. No point in watching a rerun of the same bad movie.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Federer can become the oldest player to reach a slam final right?

Ken Rosewall - 39 year 10 months 6 days
Federer Currently - 39 years 11 months 3 days.

How can his fans pass this chance to create another piece of history :cool:

Everything he has been through for past 18 months. The surgery, recovery, coming back at Dubai but not being fit physically, withdrawing from RG just for preparing on grass, and disappointing Halle to where he looked to be out of the tournament in the first match.

Old man wants to go for the title. To do that, he needs to be in the final.

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