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Tennis is a lot more interesting when Federer isn't in the top 4, especially Wimbledon 
Federer will be seeded #5 and will likely face either Nadal or Djokovic in the quarterfinals of Wimbledon 2020
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Terry Tibbs
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He won't be ranked 5. Wimbledon seedings are largely based on performances on grass. Given that he won Halle last year and reached Wimbledon final and will probably win halle again this year, I would imagine he would certainly be in the top 4 seeds for Wimbledon.
mike danny
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Djokovic yes, Nadal heck no. He was strong at AO 2017.
His ranking was #9.
He was slam-less since 2014 FO.
As usual, he recovered his top form from the clay season of 2017.
During his slam-less period 2014 FO - 2017 FO, a lot of players could beat Rafa.
And others in top 5 were injured and 2017 was very weak year, putting Dmitrov at #4(or 5).
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zagor
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Just a fair warning, it's pointless to argue with ewiewp/Fastdunn. He's like a broken record.
zagor
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You can't even get your tournaments straight. Check again.
Phoenix1983
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That's a lot of "unless", hmm ?
Bender
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It’s just another way of saying unless someone captures lightning in a bottle or Fed has a bad day—neither of which are unique to this situation. The only difference is that injury and recovery from injury may make those factors more possible than normal.
But given that pretty much everyone sucks on grass his chances at Wimbly despite injury may well be better than at RG while healthy.
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mike danny
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Federer was in a much worse state...
A lot of players could beat Rafa and yet only Federer defeated him in the big events in early 2017.
Zebrev
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Nadal hasn't beaten Federer off the dirt since 2014. I think Roger would love an easy QF against Rafa TBH.
mike danny
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I am talking about Nadal's form. That's it.So you are claiming 2017 - 1st half of 2018 was not a weak era ?
Tennis_Hands
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So, the question is, who between Nadal and Djokovic will pull the short straw?
BeatlesFan
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There was a very in-depth article about Fed's possible Wimbledon seeding yesterday, this explains it well:
"Based on last year, here’s how the Wimbledon seeding formula will work in 2020:
Take the ATP Ranking points at 24 June 2020, then add 100% of the points earned for all grass-court tournaments in the immediate past 12 months period prior to 24 June 2020. Add 75% of the points earned for the best grass-court tournament in the 12 months prior to that.
At the time of writing, Federer was sitting at No. 3 in the ATP Tour rankings with 7,130 points. HIs absence from tournaments in Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome and Roland- Garros will cost him a total of 3,180 points, dropping him back to 3,950 points.
The 500 points he gained for winning Halle last year will drop off on June 22, two days before the Wimbledon seedings are done. If Federer doesn not play in Stuttgart and/or Halle, that would take him back to 3,450 points.
Based on 2019, that points total would put his ranking around the No. 8 mark, depending on the performances of others. But if he were to play in Germany, and win Stuttgart (250 points) and Halle (500), his rankings total as of June 22 would be 4,200 points.
That would then be supplemented by the grass-court formula, adding 1,200 points for reaching the finals at Wimbledon in 2019 and a maximum of 750 if he wins Halle and Stuttgart. A further 375 points (75% of his Halle 2019 points) would be added, taking him to a maximum of 6,525 points going into Wimbledon, which would almost certainly be enough to put him in the top four.
Even if he does not play Stuttgart and Halle, his total would still be 5,025, giving him a good chance of making the top four, but if he does play either or both events, his chances will be that much greater."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daniel...imbledon-seeding-lie-in-germany/#2dddde3d766c
"Based on last year, here’s how the Wimbledon seeding formula will work in 2020:
Take the ATP Ranking points at 24 June 2020, then add 100% of the points earned for all grass-court tournaments in the immediate past 12 months period prior to 24 June 2020. Add 75% of the points earned for the best grass-court tournament in the 12 months prior to that.
At the time of writing, Federer was sitting at No. 3 in the ATP Tour rankings with 7,130 points. HIs absence from tournaments in Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome and Roland- Garros will cost him a total of 3,180 points, dropping him back to 3,950 points.
The 500 points he gained for winning Halle last year will drop off on June 22, two days before the Wimbledon seedings are done. If Federer doesn not play in Stuttgart and/or Halle, that would take him back to 3,450 points.
Based on 2019, that points total would put his ranking around the No. 8 mark, depending on the performances of others. But if he were to play in Germany, and win Stuttgart (250 points) and Halle (500), his rankings total as of June 22 would be 4,200 points.
That would then be supplemented by the grass-court formula, adding 1,200 points for reaching the finals at Wimbledon in 2019 and a maximum of 750 if he wins Halle and Stuttgart. A further 375 points (75% of his Halle 2019 points) would be added, taking him to a maximum of 6,525 points going into Wimbledon, which would almost certainly be enough to put him in the top four.
Even if he does not play Stuttgart and Halle, his total would still be 5,025, giving him a good chance of making the top four, but if he does play either or both events, his chances will be that much greater."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daniel...imbledon-seeding-lie-in-germany/#2dddde3d766c
So you are claiming 2017 - 1st half of 2018 was not a weak era ?
Yep, as usual Rafa gained his top form in clay season of 2017. ending ~3 year slam-less slump.
This always has been pattern thru out his career, no?
Rafa may have been pretty good form at AO 2017, not top form.
We are not even sure Rafa's top form for the rest of seasons in 2017
because top 5 had been suddenly injured in 2017 including Djokovic.
This could turn out to be great timing to have a injury break.
Just stay home and train when Corona epidemic howls world.
We may see yet again, fall outs from top players, who knows?
Federer will expect himself to beat anyone at '20 Wim except maybe the defending champion. Because of the prolonged rest, his chances will only improve, because of higher physical and mental reserves. Remember his prolonged rest before '17 AO?
