Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
I see. The Lance Armstrong clause, just in case.
Federer's Final Slam Count
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Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
He won't ever "swat aside" Novak. He's never ever done that to Novak in any of their matches. Their matchup has always been one of very thin margins and mental strength. The most exciting matchup in tennis IMO. But yes, Fed will come out firing at the Australian Open. I just hope his body holds up. That's all he really needs.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
He "can" win AO/W/USO 2020. And maybe compete in 2021 depending on how this season goes. I can easily see him winning a slam next season. He has been great this year, so why not?
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You didn’t add this option in the Djokovic thread though.
TennisBatman
Semi-Pro
The forum allows a maximum of 10 poll options, if I understand correctly.
In the case of Djokovic, the poll option "Less than 17" covers both "16" (the scenario where he does not win any more slams) and "Less than 16" (the scenario where he does not win any more slams and is stripped of one or more or them). I could have merged two of the other poll options into one, but I decided that the primary goal of these polls was to provide enough granularity in the 3-way slam race between the members of the Big Three, in the most important range of values. I wanted to give the same set of values for the upper range of poll options for each member of the Big Three, the highest two options being "More than 26" and "26". Therefore, I made "17 to 19" a poll option so that we could differentiate whether the poll shows Djokovic tying, surpassing, or falling short of Federer's current slam count of 20, while still using a maximum of 10 poll options.
In retrospect, I probably should have made "25 to 26" a poll option rather than using "25" and "26" as separate poll options, as this would have freed up an additional poll option.
But in the end, it still works out for Djokovic because "Less than 17" is currently showing only 4 votes, which is less than "Less than 19" for Nadal (7 votes) and "Less than 20" for Federer (7 votes). The main reason for providing these poll options for Nadal and Federer is to separate the "hater" votes from the "thinker" votes. It just turns out that Djokovic has fewer haters on this forum, which partly explains why this option has fewer votes.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
alexio
G.O.A.T.
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
we’re both talking about that 38 year old, right?
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Age does not matter. If he is fit to play, he is in his prime and at peak. I mean Rafa and djoker are doing it too at 38.
Enga
Hall of Fame
We don't truly know how well Federer's body is holding up these days. I would and have said 22 if his body really is as in good shape as it looks. I think he has gotten into a groove as far as late career tennis goes, and has maybe even perfected the art of being an older guy in tennis. But if theres anything off at all, connective tissues wearing down, his chances of winning more are really bad. And after 30 years of tennis, how would his connective tissues NOT be breaking down?
Slightly D1
Professional
He doesn’t seem to have the stamina to get through a 5 set tournament anymore.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Still dominating Wimbledon in 2046.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Still dominating Wimbledon in 2046.
Bel71ve
victorcruz
Hall of Fame
I think his floor is 1 more slam. And his ceiling at 3 more. So I think worst case scenario, he ends up with 21...which is the stuff of legends 
Mark-Touch
Legend
Why do you say that?
He didn't avoid Djoker this year and would have won the match against him had he not played his 40-15 points foolishly.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Good news is, if Rafa gets to 20, I can steal your lines.lol - I've taken your advice and gone with #20 in '20
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Okay, I knew that'd be the delicate part of my post that could trigger someone.
But he didn't win, that's the reality. And he'd have to prevent this heartbreaking loss from being too much in his head if he faces him again. He'd also need to face a subpar Djokovic like this year because if he plays much better next time, the chances of Federer winning would be low. I mean if he chocked this year against this version of Djoko, what are the chances of him not choking and winning against a Djokovic that would play out of his mind, especially after that 2019 final ?
Wimbledon 2014, Wimbledon 2015 and now Wimbledon 2019... That's too much. He'd need to deal with these mental scars to beat an ATG 6 years younger than him, at 39 or more. That just can't happen in my opinion. I do think he could still beat him at USO but he'd have to avoid him at Wimb to get a chance to win the tournament.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
That said, Fed was 0-3 against Rafa in HC slams... until AO17. Things in the big 3 story get edited yearly. You never know. Maybe Djoker will be in the same form, but Fed is playing better (Fed had lapses in the final too).
There's nothing really to solve with Djokovic. The surfaces don't suit Federer's game as he's stuck in long baseline exchanges and he doesn't have a kill shot and has to keep taking risks against the backboard robot aka RoboDjok!
I think Fed will have to wait till Djoko gets a bit slower and his groundstrokes gets deteriorated to some extent.
Purplemonster
Hall of Fame
There's nothing really to solve with Djokovic. The surfaces don't suit Federer's game as he's stuck in long baseline exchanges and he doesn't have a kill shot and has to keep taking risks against the backboard robot aka RoboDjok!
He **** himself against Djokovic, has nothing to do with the surface, if that was the case how did he get to the final of Wimbledon in the first place ???
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Clown draw. Djokovic struggled to beat federer on faster surfaces for years including cincy and dubai
Zebrev
Hall of Fame
I mjght be crazy but I think Roger has good chances to still add to his tally.
The only player to beat him consistently since 2016 has been Novak. With him out of the picture, even if Roger loses to random players, he will still win enough and make enough finals that the law of averages says he will win one eventually. He still has plenty of good tennis in him, just less consistent than before. Playing 7 best of 5 set matches isn't the issue at the moment. Until it is a problem, he is still in the running.
The only player to beat him consistently since 2016 has been Novak. With him out of the picture, even if Roger loses to random players, he will still win enough and make enough finals that the law of averages says he will win one eventually. He still has plenty of good tennis in him, just less consistent than before. Playing 7 best of 5 set matches isn't the issue at the moment. Until it is a problem, he is still in the running.
terribleIVAN
Hall of Fame
Dimitrov.
TennisBatman
Semi-Pro
Federer has now fallen out of the top 3 strongest odds for winning the Australian Open, at +1200, which is behind +900 for Medvedev.
TennisBatman
Semi-Pro
2021 end of season reboot!
The count stands at 20 for Djokovic, tied with Federer and Nadal.
Federer just recently underwent surgery, making his return to competitive tennis in the next few years all the more doubtful.
The count stands at 20 for Djokovic, tied with Federer and Nadal.
Federer just recently underwent surgery, making his return to competitive tennis in the next few years all the more doubtful.
TennisBatman
Semi-Pro
Based on the events of the last two years, I have changed my vote for Federer from 21 to 20.
juanparty
Hall of Fame
Lol
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