Hyper G vs. Cyclone Tour
- Thread starter BDAZ
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Cyclone tour is a softer string so easier on the arm. Hyper G holds tension better and to me generates more spin. Had several friends use Cyclone Tour after having elbow or wrist problems and the Cyclone is what they have continued to play.
g4driver
Legend
Agree with this assessment.
I string for quite a few 4.0 and 4.5 guys and use more 16g Cyclone Tour than any gauge of Hyper G.
FWIW Cyclone Tour 17g is a nearly worthless string IMO due to rapid tension loss. Cyclone Tour 16g lasts 3 to 4 times as long as 17g. I refuse to string 17g Cyclone Tour. 17g Hyper G works much better if you comparing 17g HG vs 17g CT
Hyper G 16L (1.25) holds tension better than 16g Cyclone Tour but it is also stiffer.
I have reels of both strings and have been using Cyclone Tour 16G for 3.5 years.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Where does Vokle Torque tour fit into all this ?
g4driver
Legend
I think you mean 16g / 1.30 mm
No 17g string lasts longer than a 16g gauge version of the same string. Simple a matter of the 16g string being thicker than it's 17g.
Some 17g strings play much thinner than others. Cyclone Tour 17g is among the worst in this respect.
I have 5 or 6 reels of 16g Cyclone Tour, as I go through a lot of it. I own no 17g Cyclone Tour and wont waste a client's money stringing it. It is that bad.
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g4driver
Legend
16g V-Torque snaps for me in 6 sets (about 5 hours) max.
16g Cyclone Tour lasts me about 20-24 hours depending on how much singles I play.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
i meant in playability.
Solinco Tour Bite 16l 1.25
Solinco Hyper G 16l 1.25
Luxilon Alu Power 16l 1.25
We primarily use these strings. Volkl 1.25 poly is 17g. It gets confusing keeping up with how different companies gauge their string. I just go by mm. Have better success with 1.25 and smaller poly. Never used 1.30 poly.
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g4driver
Legend
I have Hyper G 16L and Lux Alu Power 16L, along with Solinco Revolution 16L and a few others.
Volkl's 16g polys seem to play like other companies' 17g polys since Cyclone & Cyclone Tour are softer polys.
The only other 16g poly I stock is Head Hawk because the 4.5 guy who uses it (likely bumped to 5.0) breaks it in about 3 weeks.
Volkl's 16g polys seem to play like other companies' 17g polys since Cyclone & Cyclone Tour are softer polys.
The only other 16g poly I stock is Head Hawk because the 4.5 guy who uses it (likely bumped to 5.0) breaks it in about 3 weeks.
emn8
Rookie
Yes - if all things are equal. I string Hyper G at 48-50 typically. To get similar control etc I would have needed to string CT at 55+ when I tested it. The question of which string is softer then becomes much more debatable.
kramer woodie
Professional
Wow, and I was stringing Cyclone 16g Tour at 40 pounds. Thought it played great, spin, power, and comfort. However, it did definitely feel springy like,
the ball came off the stringed too quickly and did not feel like it pocketed well. Other than that, I quite liked 16g Tour.
Aloha
the ball came off the stringed too quickly and did not feel like it pocketed well. Other than that, I quite liked 16g Tour.
Aloha
Roland G
Hall of Fame
I would say similar spin, CT is more powerful and more comfortable. Upside to Hyper G is better control and better tension maintainance
Stringing the less stiff Cyclone Tour at higher tension to get control makes sense. Check out the TW string comparison chart. Gives you a general idea of most of the more popular strings. According to that chart Hyper G is much stiffer which is the consensus I get from a number of players. Hyper G seems to the better all around string for my purposes but if I had arm problems..would be stringIng up some Cyclone Tour or Weiss Cannon.
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Just strung one of my RF97’s with Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g 1.30 and I must say impressive. Had played Hyper G 1.25 in the RF97 and PS97 and if felt dead and plastic although it does generate spin and maintains tension fairly well. VCT plays well with plenty of power, spin and control. Much better feel for a poly. Normally string Hyper G at 48-50 and went up to 52 with Cyclone Tour. Great string.
g4driver
Legend
We all have our preferences and it is understandable different players will like different setups. Among these five 4.5 men I now string for, three use 1.3mm VCT, one uses Solinco Revolution 1.25mm , while one uses Hyper G 1.30mm / Head Hawk 1.25mm.
When guys are searching for a string, I ask them:
1) any arm/elbow/shoulder issues ?
2) how often they break strings?
3) level of play?
4) current setup and tension
If they have 3 frames, I give them 3 different setups telling them nothing about the strings to prevent basis. I let them play with the setups and then pick the one they like the most. I then cut out the strings from the other frames and restring with the string they like better. They only pay for the labor $15 a frame and strings for the frames they like. So I eat the cost of stings on 2 out of 3 frames initially so the client isn't paying for 5 sets of strings if he gives me 3 frames. $45 Labor and price for 3 packs will get 5 frames strung and 2 frames will be cutout after they pick what they like better.
For for hard hitting 4.0 and 4.5 players who like full poly with no arm/elbow/ shoulder issues, I typically string VCT 1.30mm, Solinco Revolution 1.25mm and Hyoer G 1.25mm and for the worst string breakers, 1.30mm Hyoer G. ( the guys who break 16g poly in 10-12 hours)
I have Revolution and Hyoer G in 1.30mm and 1.25mm each but VCT only in 1.25mm. I string for other 4.5 guys who use other setups, but the 5 guys I listed above liked the shaped polys. the one using Hyper G 1.30/ Head Hawk hits the hardest but he liked the Hawk in the crosses more than that full Hyoer G.
For those that haven't tried Solinco Revolution, I have two players who like it more than VCT for durability / playability. 3 of those 4.5 choose VCT over Revolution, but it seems that they break the VCT around the 30 day mark. 1.25 Revolution seems to last longer than VCF 1.30mm for the same player. Hope this helps. This is a good thread and appreciate all posts from you guys. Always looking for inputs that help me as a stinger for better players.
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That is all good information. Thanks. The only other issue is the frame. For instance the RF97 if a beast with full poly. Rough on the arm. The PS97 and 6.1 18x20 are easy on the arm with poly at reasonable tensions. Have had to play gut/poly in the RF97 but Hyper G 1.25 and Cyclone Tour 1.30 are excellent in the other two frames. I don’t have arm problems but the overall wear and tear and soreness in the arm is present the day after playing with the RF97.
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