heftylefty
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This thread reeks of reverse jinx
If Federer wins the French Open how crazy will SW19 errr 20 be?
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Fedfan34
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You have to take a video and post it on this forum. 'Nuff said. NO EXCUSES! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!Good suggestion. A male-version cosplay of Lady Godiva?.Feel a little pressure now.
Luckydog
Professional
Then get banned?
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Fedfan34
Guest
NO EXCUSES! I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!Then get banned?
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
LOL, oh noes, the image !!!!!Thank God, sureshs is not a Federer fan.
BigServer1
Legend
He's not winning the FO.
Unless - Djokovic, Nadal and Stan all end up on one side of the draw, and Stan makes it out of that half. If Roger could navigate his half of the draw and get lucky to avoid big hitters, he could do it.
All that said, it's not happening. I think if the draw works out and he makes a QF/SF, that would be an awesome result.
Unless - Djokovic, Nadal and Stan all end up on one side of the draw, and Stan makes it out of that half. If Roger could navigate his half of the draw and get lucky to avoid big hitters, he could do it.
All that said, it's not happening. I think if the draw works out and he makes a QF/SF, that would be an awesome result.
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Cenarius
Guest
Ok, but what about players like Del Potro and Wawrinka?
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
maruzo
Semi-Pro
People's been saying that for years. People like 90s clay.
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as much as i like federer to win the bloody FO, it is not going to happen
thats the only slam he has won one time, the rest of them atleast 5 times each
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Cenarius
Guest
Unlike him I'm not a hater.In fact I would love to see my favorite player win at my favorite tournament for a second time.But it's not realistic at this stage of his career.
maruzo
Semi-Pro
I think you are missing the intangibles. I am not saying Fed is the overwhelming favorite to win the FO. But he certainly has a chance to take the crown. He is playing very very well at the moment. And he is also playing with a very aggressive game plan combined with a confident mind set.
Both combined you have a Federer that is just about as good as he's ever been.
Frankly, today's Fed will take down everyone in the field.
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JRAJ1988
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He's got a stronger chance to win Wimbledon, maybe a Quarter Final run at the French will be a positive for Roger.
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Cenarius
Guest
I simply think he will give his focus at W and maybe UO.
Qubax
Professional
Fed has been dialing back his schedule for years. From 30 to 25 to 22 to 19, sure this year he may only play 15 events, but make no mistake his preparation for each slam will be good. No one prepares better or schedules better than Fed. It's an underestimated ingredient in his GOAThood.
I think the thing that people forget is that Fed thrives with 48hrs+ in rest. The Masters 1000 format where he could play 3 matches in 3 days or 4 in 5 is almost worse. We know Fed will need to play Thurs, Friday, Sunday to win Miami. Sure Berdych shouldn't be taxing and therefore he should have enough gas for the Semi, and then he'll have close to 48 hours off before the final. Miami is actually shaking down okay....but Slams by there nature provide scheduling rhythm and rest. That is huge for Fed at this stage.
Fed will be the favorite in each match he plays at the FO, atleast until the QF or SF. And with appropriate rest he should be able to continue to chug through until he faces an in form Djoko or Nadal (and what does in form mean for those guys, and how do we know they would beat Fed anyway?) Fed's top 10 record this year is unblemished.
I think Fed has as a good a chance as anyone else of winning FO. Call it 25% Nadal, 20% Wawa, 20% Fed, 35% field.
Not saying Fed will win, but in any given match he'll be the favourite, so you just take it one match at a time, you get 48 hrs rest before each match and you see how it goes. Who exactly is he going to lose to with his free swinging mental approach, clutch serving and versatile & deadly BH?
I think the thing that people forget is that Fed thrives with 48hrs+ in rest. The Masters 1000 format where he could play 3 matches in 3 days or 4 in 5 is almost worse. We know Fed will need to play Thurs, Friday, Sunday to win Miami. Sure Berdych shouldn't be taxing and therefore he should have enough gas for the Semi, and then he'll have close to 48 hours off before the final. Miami is actually shaking down okay....but Slams by there nature provide scheduling rhythm and rest. That is huge for Fed at this stage.
Fed will be the favorite in each match he plays at the FO, atleast until the QF or SF. And with appropriate rest he should be able to continue to chug through until he faces an in form Djoko or Nadal (and what does in form mean for those guys, and how do we know they would beat Fed anyway?) Fed's top 10 record this year is unblemished.
I think Fed has as a good a chance as anyone else of winning FO. Call it 25% Nadal, 20% Wawa, 20% Fed, 35% field.
Not saying Fed will win, but in any given match he'll be the favourite, so you just take it one match at a time, you get 48 hrs rest before each match and you see how it goes. Who exactly is he going to lose to with his free swinging mental approach, clutch serving and versatile & deadly BH?
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Roland Garros ain't happening....Let's be realistic here!
No19 at SW19! Now that's more like it
He's got as good a chance as anyone not named Nadal, lets be realistic here.
Druss
Hall of Fame
In the last few years his game on clay has dropped considerably. Besides he's not giving the clay season much importance as of late, so that says something.
Qubax
Professional
Fed has also said though that you can't win the tournament if you don't enter it.
That to me says that Fed will play the FO. His success in Miami (however the tourney ends) combined with IW and AO, I think will give him plenty of confidence to do well at the French.
cockneyDjoker
Hall of Fame
Don't you worry. The c**k will get the last laugh when Nole is dominating the tennis world once again.Easy now, remember what happened to @cockneyDjoker when he bet that Djokovic would keep the number one ranking until 2020!
Bookies have him at 14-1 for FO, so if you genuinely think he has a 4-1 odds 2(20%) lay down some serious cash instead of moaning here.
Zebrev
Hall of Fame
Here's the answer - if Federer gets to the quarterfinal of RG without dropping too many sets, and still feels fit, he will throw caution to the wind and "leave everything out on the court" like he did at AO. Y'know, a part of me believes he would love to beat Nadal in a FO final more than he wants another Wimbledon title, after so many final defeats over the years. It would be like Nadals 2008 Wimby win, but reversed.
Qubax
Professional
If I was a gambler I would. But I've never gambled and not going to start now.
I also wouldn't say that I am moaning - rather I am representing my opinion of Fed's current game and his chances at the French.
Look there is atleast an 80% chance Fed doesn't win the French. So it's not like he's the favourite, but there is also not an overwhelming individual favourite as it was with Rafa a few years ago.
I do think that Fed has very good chance to win Wimbledon though.
By "I'm not a gambler" you mean that you don't actually believe the 20% number. Again, you would be utterly foolish to not bet on him if you believed it. (It wouldn't be gambling).
Qubax
Professional
Sure the payoff odds are good. And if I had 10 of these to gamble on at once and one or two hitting led to being profitable then sure it may be worth it.
BUT, just because the return is good for Fed winning the French, the 80% likelihood that someone else wins still means I would probably lose. If I was diversifying these odds over many separate stocks then it would be a different story.
Now if Fed was playing Michael Russell in the first round of Wimbledon this year, and betting $100 could pay $120 rather than the expected $100.50, then it would be worth it.
I've interned with trading companies, if it's an unlikely payout, you just gamble a smaller amount. Maybe $100. Maybe $20. You don't gamble nothing if you truly think his odds are 3x the listed ones.
Sorry, but any real tennis fan is also a Federer fan.
Qubax
Professional
At the beginning of this thread I stated that if Fed won the French Open then the ramifications after also winning Wimbledon SW19/20 would be immediate #1 seed on the Monday after Wimbly.
But is this actually true?
If Fed only plays French (2,000), Stuttgart(??), Halle (??), Wimbledon (2,000)
It seems like Federer is playing less and less tourneys, but winning more and more of the ones he enters.
If Fed won French and Wimbledon he would be between 8,000-8,500ish points.
I doubt that actually would be enough. It would be crazy to think that in theory Fed could win 3 slams and not be #1 right away. Even though I am sure Fed could do well at Cincy, and the US Open and become #1 later in the summer.
Thoughts?
But is this actually true?
If Fed only plays French (2,000), Stuttgart(??), Halle (??), Wimbledon (2,000)
It seems like Federer is playing less and less tourneys, but winning more and more of the ones he enters.
If Fed won French and Wimbledon he would be between 8,000-8,500ish points.
I doubt that actually would be enough. It would be crazy to think that in theory Fed could win 3 slams and not be #1 right away. Even though I am sure Fed could do well at Cincy, and the US Open and become #1 later in the summer.
Thoughts?
jussumman
Hall of Fame
Sounds expensive no?
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VexlanderPrime
Guest
It would be big. Massive if Djoker/Andy return to form pre-WIMBY
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VexlanderPrime
Guest
Nah he done
smoledman
G.O.A.T.
Dude, give it up already. Nadal is 'done-r' than 10-day old meatloaf.
jussumman
Hall of Fame
Relax. I am NOT a Nadal fan. I actually bash his game usually. I am just being realistic. He's done? Are you kiddding me. Not on clay dude. That's like saying Federer is done on grass or hard courts. Stupid. You're riding the most recent tournaments too much.
FedFan1122
New User
Just adding some data fuel to the fire: Fedfan is fifth best bet to win the FO right now
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/tennis/mens-french-open
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/tennis/mens-french-open
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Fedfan34
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It will be so GREAT you will be showing your chivalry ON THE ROADSGood suggestion. A male-version cosplay of Lady Godiva?
And do remember...pics or it DIDN'T happen
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Clay ain't slow HC. He can lose to close to 20 different players without having a complete and utter off day. Much harder to take the ball on the rise (his go to play in 2017), much harder to penetrate the court with sexy winners and - let's not forget - Fed plans to more or less skip it. He's training on HC until a week or two before the FO according to his own plan.
And he's hardly done anything on the surface since beating Novak at FO 2011.
So yeah, let's drop this. He can win W and the US. And with some luck even both of them. But he ain't winning another FO.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
The great Rod Laver said yesterday he thinks Fed can win the French. How crazy is that!?
“The way he’s playing,” Laver said, “it isn’t a far-reaching situation for him to win the French.”
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...miller/sd-sp-miller-laver-20170406-story.html
“The way he’s playing,” Laver said, “it isn’t a far-reaching situation for him to win the French.”
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...miller/sd-sp-miller-laver-20170406-story.html
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Before this year's AO, I would have agreed with you 100% on whether Roger would ever win another FO. I would have given him a 1-2% chance. But now, after he won the AO, I believe in tennis miracles. I now believe Roger can win another FO. And I think he can waltz in there in May with no tournament preparation and go deep. The chances of him winning it all? Maybe 10%. Maybe more if Nadal and Djoker do little on the clay in April/May.
People might also overlook that Murray is out for 6 weeks. He won't possibly be ready to play well in Paris. That means Roger's odds go up even more.
Cahill said that Ljub has been pushing Fed hard to play Madrid or Rome and go all out at the FO because of his great form. Will Roger listen?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm with @Chanwan on this one. The hype about Federer winning the FO has reached insane proportions. It's almost as bad as all of the hype surrounding Djokovic and his fans with the "Djokovic will win 20 slams" nonsense. Federer stated he's not playing any clay warm-ups and he said he'll "probably" play the FO. Clay isn't hard court and the risk of injury is too great for Federer to go all out at the FO with Wimbledon so close.
We don't know how Nadal will play during the clay season. We don't know if Djokovic will have another surge and take clay season by storm. Re Murray and his "injury", please! He's already started training so can he really be injured seriously?
Federer is a 35 year old man whose worst surface has always been clay. His chances of winning the physically grinding FO at 35 are minuscule. Seriously, why can't fan bases be reasonable when a player wins something or a few things? Does it automatically have to mean that the player is going to win everything for the next 2 years especially a player almost 36? So much can happen in a couple of months in tennis which changes the landscape.
We don't know how Nadal will play during the clay season. We don't know if Djokovic will have another surge and take clay season by storm. Re Murray and his "injury", please! He's already started training so can he really be injured seriously?
Federer is a 35 year old man whose worst surface has always been clay. His chances of winning the physically grinding FO at 35 are minuscule. Seriously, why can't fan bases be reasonable when a player wins something or a few things? Does it automatically have to mean that the player is going to win everything for the next 2 years especially a player almost 36? So much can happen in a couple of months in tennis which changes the landscape.
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