Pro_Tour_630
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well I guess we have a clearer close up, it is no Kblade that we can get in the store, check the outer mains and how they intersect the lower cross,
Is Djokovic using a new racquet?
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well I guess we have a clearer close up, it is no Kblade that we can get in the store, check the outer mains and how they intersect the lower cross,
cheny89
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bluegrasser
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well I guess we have a clearer close up, it is no Kblade that we can get in the store, check the outer mains and how they intersect the lower cross,
Didn't TW say he was using the 93" tour ? - that looks like a 98" mp to me.
im pretty sure it is the 93'' when i was watching the hopman cup it looked like the 93'' but maybe it is the 98'' you know these pros have there racquets customized or painted to look like other racquets
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
FXP radical tour is 16X19 different string pattern than what joker is using
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Chauvalito
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He is using the same headsize as he was before, his rackets just have the blade tour pj...so I guess TW has gone with the pj instead of what he is actually using concerning headsize.
It def looks 98'', I think the black pj just makes it look smaller
Pro_Tour_630
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nope not a tour 93 since the pattern and holes skipped are the same as head PC mid or head PC 600 where the outer three mains intersect the lower three crosses. In the photo where joker is using a PJ of Kbalde only the outer two mains intersect the lower two cross. same pattern but different holes skipped so it is not a 93 that we can buy, could be a special 93 only made by wilson that we can not get so far, but I doubt it
Wilson made him a copy of his head MP with 18X20 mold, it could be anything from the frames I have listed with the exact holes skipped
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
TW cannot go with what he's actually using because it's been discontinued. They always need to go with the paintjob since that's what the brand is marketing as being used by that particular pro, just like when Djokovic was shown using an nBlade paintjob.
jorel
Hall of Fame
my question is why Wilson cant give us the racquet that the Joker is actually using (or at least from the same mold) they might not be willing to duplicate the layup due to cost but i dont see why they cant release the mold
like releasing the true Fed racquet mold to consumers in the Kfactor
(unless it is an exact duplicate to the Head PT 280.)
then i can see some problems occuring
like releasing the true Fed racquet mold to consumers in the Kfactor
(unless it is an exact duplicate to the Head PT 280.)
then i can see some problems occuring
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jorel
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i believe Wilson sued Prince cause their triple threat line was too similar to the Hammer line
It wouldn't sell. Its not powerful enough to appeal to a large enough audience and it doesn't have those game improving gimmicks.
AlpineCadet
Hall of Fame
He's using a version of the LM Radical frame, and Wilson thinks their customers are stupid enough to fall for paintjobs.
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
which is another reason why I think it might be a copy of the PT630/280 iprestige mold etc..., also no ridges found on the painted Kblades/nblades leads me to believe he might have dropped the LM radical tour( that is if he was really using it) to maybe even a painted MG prestige MP without the caps.
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cheny89
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ok u got me all confused now which one is he using dammit LOL
PT630, PT280, LM Rad tour, MG prestigeMP?????which one
I dont think its any of the prestige but i recon its a Old Head Radical tour 260 the radical and prestige throuts are diff prestige is flat and Radical is curved towards the head.
it has to be a Head Radical tour 260 :0 what do you all recon???
PT630, PT280, LM Rad tour, MG prestigeMP?????which one
I dont think its any of the prestige but i recon its a Old Head Radical tour 260 the radical and prestige throuts are diff prestige is flat and Radical is curved towards the head.
it has to be a Head Radical tour 260 :0 what do you all recon???
Just to clarify, when you say Rad Tour 260, which exact frame are you referring to? The Bumblee (1st one ever), a so-called Zebra that followed the previous entry, the Twin Tubes that followed the zebras, or a later one?
Oh. And BTW, regarding the possibility that Djoker may use a real LM Rad under a pj - is it only me who would be amazed at the idea that a pro like him might use a genuine LM Rad?... surely there aren't other pro's wielding genuine LM Rads?!
JediMindTrick
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His racquet is the PT 630 mold and the PT 630 string pattern and plays like his old Head racquet. I wonder what is it?
JediMindTrick
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No it's not only you. There are no LM ridges so it's no LM Radical or LM Radical Tour.
JediMindTrick
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It would sell very well much like Fed's racquet is selling very well.
JediMindTrick
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AlpineCadet
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The LiquidMetal Radical has the same EXACT string pattern as the older PT frames. You can use either Standard/CAP grommets for both frames. Djokovic has never been photographed using the PT280, but he has been photographed with the LiquidMetal Radical WITH physical bumps (LM ridges.) If you also compare the shapes of the PT vs the LM Radical, you obviously tell it's no PT mold.
Real LM ridges
Versus fake LM ridges (paint job):
AlpineCadet
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The LM paint is still the same color tone on Djokovic's rackets ---vs--- the LM paint job frame of Safin which has three different tones/colors. It's quite obvious if you want to be honest with us.
Physical Liquidmetal ridges with the same color tone:
Safin's Liquidmetal paint job had bright silver paint in between dark silver paint.
Physical Liquidmetal ridges with the same color tone:
Safin's Liquidmetal paint job had bright silver paint in between dark silver paint.
JediMindTrick
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So AlpineCadet, are you saying that the racquet Djoko is using now, the one painted like a KBlade Tour, has LM ridges? No ridges, no LM. Definetly no Flexholes. So what other posibilities are there beside PT630?
AlpineCadet
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I'm talking about his racket history, right before Wilson CUSTOM MADE HIM A RACKET TO MOCK HIS OLD FRAME BEFORE HE SIGNED WITH WILSON. FYI: His current racket is not an older racket with a Wilson paintjob, nor does it even have the same exact shape as the PT630.
sargeinaz
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I agree with Alpine. It is probably just a custom racket made to the exact specs that Djok likes that wilson will probably never sell.
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JediMindTrick
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That's what everybody is saying all along. Wilson made a racquet identical with his old Head racquet. We know that from Djoko himself. Nobody is saying that Wilson is painting PT630s like KBlade Tours. We don't know exactly what his old Head racquet is.
saram
Legend
So is Rafa...everyone knows that...but your sig says otherwise...
saram
Legend
Says they will be in stock in 2001...bummer!
Leoboomanu
Rookie
And how did you manage to 'buy' a new username?
No offense intended MC... Or am I just clueless...
Peace
(FEDERER)vs(NADAL)
Semi-Pro
i'm pretty sure wilson custom make racquets specifically for their players, same specs as the LM RADICAL just painted as a Kblade
AlpineCadet
Hall of Fame
I agree, 100%. What did Novak use before his Wilson contract started? A LM Radical that was under 12oz unstrung (according to Jura.) Getty Images confirms this, and his current frame has the exact same string pattern as the Radical. Not very hard to understand. To claim that it was a 12+ ounce racket, like say, the Pro Tour 630 is stretching the truth. Let's be honest, and stick with the facts.
AlpineCadet
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It hasn't been confirmed whether or not it's LM Radical Tour. Check out Jura's specs to see if they match the LM Radical Tour. IMHO, it's the LM Radical but with personalized weight distribution, since the LM Radical Tour probably isn't 100% suited/perfect for Djokovic's preferences. Djokovic has NEVER been photographed using the PT630/280 frames.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
How do you know he didn't add weight to whatever racquet he was using?
Leelord337
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every now and then you'll catch a LM painted prestige on e bay. it is actually a Prestige Classic. They fetch for around $400
BreakPoint
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slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
^That looks like a Prince TT Warrior, is it?
AlpineCadet
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Yeah, I believe it is the TT Warrior actually. Don't tell me it's a Head racket painted as a Prince. :lol:
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nickb
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Here he is using something that's neither a LM Radical nor a n/K-Blade paintjob:
Thats a Prince TT Warrior.....
AlpineCadet
Hall of Fame
In the last picture, he looks like a c*cky little bastage, doesn't he? :lol: No offense to Nole fans of course.Thats a Prince TT Warrior.....
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Yes, that's what it looks like to me as well.
And since the TT Warrior plays NOTHING like either the PT630 nor the LM Radical, this is just more evidence that pros do actually change to racquets that play and feel very differently than what they grew up using. The Bryan brothers are another good example (HPS 5.0/6.1 to Speedport Black).
Hi everyone, I bump this thread not to create another one, but don't you find that Djokovic's racquet is thinner than before?
It really looks on TV, so I looked for some pics:
Pacific Life Open this year
http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|74993651%2c74993642%2c74993317%2c74993303%2c74993294%2c74993290%2c74993278%2c74993273%2c74993270%2c74993257%2c74993246%2c74993241%2c74989179%2c74984644%2c74984610%2c74983147%2c74983124%2c74983108%2c74983095%2c74983056%2c74983039%2c74983005%2c74982921%2c74982869%2c74982842%2c74942776%2c74942653%2c74942645%2c74942179%2c74942171%2c74942169%2c74942153%2c74942138%2c74942133%2c74938803%2c74938802%2c74921863%2c74921817%2c74921806%2c74921789%2c74921765%2c74921751%2c74921736%2c74921723%2c74844646%2c74844645%2c74635211%2c74635209%2c74635193%2c74635182%2c74635178%2c74635175%2c74635148%2c74635143%2c74635134%2c74584447%2c74584444%2c74584414%2c74584394%2c74584382|0&id=74921863
gettyimages #80344845 if the pic doesn't work
Wimbledon 2007
http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|74993651%2c74993642%2c74993317%2c74993303%2c74993294%2c74993290%2c74993278%2c74993273%2c74993270%2c74993257%2c74993246%2c74993241%2c74989179%2c74984644%2c74984610%2c74983147%2c74983124%2c74983108%2c74983095%2c74983056%2c74983039%2c74983005%2c74982921%2c74982869%2c74982842%2c74942776%2c74942653%2c74942645%2c74942179%2c74942171%2c74942169%2c74942153%2c74942138%2c74942133%2c74938803%2c74938802%2c74921863%2c74921817%2c74921806%2c74921789%2c74921765%2c74921751%2c74921736%2c74921723%2c74844646%2c74844645%2c74635211%2c74635209%2c74635193%2c74635182%2c74635178%2c74635175%2c74635148%2c74635143%2c74635134%2c74584447%2c74584444%2c74584414%2c74584394%2c74584382|0&id=74921863
gettyimages #74921863 if it doesn't work
Didn't you guys notice the same thing?
It really looks on TV, so I looked for some pics:
Pacific Life Open this year
http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|74993651%2c74993642%2c74993317%2c74993303%2c74993294%2c74993290%2c74993278%2c74993273%2c74993270%2c74993257%2c74993246%2c74993241%2c74989179%2c74984644%2c74984610%2c74983147%2c74983124%2c74983108%2c74983095%2c74983056%2c74983039%2c74983005%2c74982921%2c74982869%2c74982842%2c74942776%2c74942653%2c74942645%2c74942179%2c74942171%2c74942169%2c74942153%2c74942138%2c74942133%2c74938803%2c74938802%2c74921863%2c74921817%2c74921806%2c74921789%2c74921765%2c74921751%2c74921736%2c74921723%2c74844646%2c74844645%2c74635211%2c74635209%2c74635193%2c74635182%2c74635178%2c74635175%2c74635148%2c74635143%2c74635134%2c74584447%2c74584444%2c74584414%2c74584394%2c74584382|0&id=74921863
gettyimages #80344845 if the pic doesn't work
Wimbledon 2007
http://http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Detail.aspx?axd=DetailPaging.Search|1&axs=0|74993651%2c74993642%2c74993317%2c74993303%2c74993294%2c74993290%2c74993278%2c74993273%2c74993270%2c74993257%2c74993246%2c74993241%2c74989179%2c74984644%2c74984610%2c74983147%2c74983124%2c74983108%2c74983095%2c74983056%2c74983039%2c74983005%2c74982921%2c74982869%2c74982842%2c74942776%2c74942653%2c74942645%2c74942179%2c74942171%2c74942169%2c74942153%2c74942138%2c74942133%2c74938803%2c74938802%2c74921863%2c74921817%2c74921806%2c74921789%2c74921765%2c74921751%2c74921736%2c74921723%2c74844646%2c74844645%2c74635211%2c74635209%2c74635193%2c74635182%2c74635178%2c74635175%2c74635148%2c74635143%2c74635134%2c74584447%2c74584444%2c74584414%2c74584394%2c74584382|0&id=74921863
gettyimages #74921863 if it doesn't work
Didn't you guys notice the same thing?
nalk7
Rookie
BTW. In this German tennismagazin of december 2003. I know it's long time ago but i think it has some valuable information has the specifics of Federer's racket at that time.
The weight of his racket is 355 grams and the balance point is 31,7 cm. On clay his weight is 362g(32,1 cm) On grass 355 g(31,7) Hardcourt 358 g(31,9) and in Halle, A grass tournament in Germany his racket weighted 360 g and the balance point was 31,8 cm
As you see he changes his set-up but the changes are minor like any pro.
He played the same racket he uses now and the headsize is 580,5 cm.
by: martin 04-16-2008, 05:45 AM Roger changes racquet specs.... thread
kabob
Hall of Fame
Links are dead but I agree, it seems like Novak is using an actual KBlade Tour 93 now. The frame is thinner, smaller and the hoop is "mushroom" shaped like the retail KBT rather than oval like when he was playing in the Aussie Open.
AlpineCadet
Hall of Fame
I guess we all see what we want to see.
http://www.mymag.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=22919&start=3840
The racquet in the first photo on the left is the real Djokovic racquet!
The racquet in the first photo on the left is the real Djokovic racquet!
