One handed back hand.. Marius, rick, BB?

[Mattle]

Hey guys!

Please.. i would be glad if you all gave me a response, especially marius, rickson and bunga since they've helped me a lot.. got a problem at this moment!

I know how to do the one hander on the back hand side, know the rules and techniques but i'm in a little crises at the moment. I'm using the same swing pattern as i do for my forehand and that's not good, because i use SW grip. I want to make a drive backhand at my the height of my knee, and automatically i'm trying to drive it as my forehand. it goes into the net, i don't have that much angle my eastern grip? Then i try to make my follow through more going upwards, and then they go sky high. I want to drive my strokes, flatten them out. Do you have any tips for making one handed back hand more safe and drived?
thanks!

 

[Marius_Hancu]

for the time being you need to have the topspin working, if you're hitting into the net

you really have to go under that ball with the racquet head before contact

flex both knees (the right should be close to the ground, but not very far behind you, and flexed, not extended) and stay low throughout the shot, don't jump for the time being AT ALL, be grounded

slow down, until you have everything in working order

implement a very slow pendulum motion, lifting the racquet towards the ball, but staying low

for the time being forget about the follow through, just make sure the racquet is vertical at contact

start from the service line and progress gradually towards the baseline, with slow pendulum topspin motion, no need for power for the time being

then we talk drives

can practice this alone, throw balls to your left, split step, move in with small adjustments steps, plant the platform with the correct lunge

 

[SageOfDeath]

http://www.imagesbyevvy.com/tennisforall/article 1.htm

To drive that backhand you can't do it as a forehand, you probably come across your body if you try to do that, which can be why it goes into the net.

An upward follow through is good, if they go sky high you may be opening your grip which could be a problem from your preperation. In the pictures of the article I posted, look his prepration how his back is turned, his hand on the racquet, and he will use his non-dominant hand to c0ck the wrist. He is balanced and ready to load his weight into his shot. Now you see as you turn the the next picture, you see how he used his non-dominant hand to drop the racquet head to get under to ball, look how perfectly balanced he is and his knee bend, really ready to crank that shot. At contact you see his head still and looking at the ball, which is important for balance. You probably can't tell too well on the next picture but his path is more linear than a forehand. And he doesn't open up too much, you don't really want to open up. If you do you overroatate in your shot that can cause a number of problems. And look at his nondominant, it goes upward, it doesn't go across your body as a forehand can, it goes upward.

Read the article its very good.

 

[Mattle]

for the time being you need to have the topspin working, if you're hitting into the net

you really have to go under that ball with the racquet head before contact

flex both knees (the right should be close to the ground, but not very far behind you, and flexed, not extended) and stay low throughout the shot, don't jump for the time being AT ALL, be grounded

slow down, until you have everything in working order

implement a very slow pendulum motion, lifting the racquet towards the ball, but staying low

for the time being forget about the follow through, just make sure the racquet is vertical at contact

start from the service line and progress gradually towards the baseline, with slow pendulum topspin motion, no need for power for the time being

then we talk drives

can practice this alone, throw balls to your left, split step, move in with small adjustments steps, plant the platform with the correct lunge

okay.. when you say racket head below ball, is it only the wrist and the racket or the whole arm going below?

 

[Marius_Hancu]

okay.. when you say racket head below ball, is it only the wrist and the racket or the whole arm going below?

look for yourself, observe:
check the Sticky (Haas, Guga)

the wrist should be under the ball at some time during the swing

the rackethead slightly lower

if you really want to make sure that you're under the ball, you might bring even your elbow lower, but that would normally be an exageration for teaching purposes, forcing the guy to flex more

you should throw balls at your left and hit them at different heights, forcing yourself to flex the knees enough for you to have the racket head coming from under the level of the ball, even when the ball is very low (under 1 foot)

check Edberg in the Sticky and watch him!

 

[Slazenger]

Let me tell you the next best thing.
Get to a site like tennisplayer.net and check out the stroke archives of pros with IHBH, just to see how they hit.
What's good about this is they have different views and you can replay over and over and see the grip changes, footwork, stances, takebacks, swings and follow-throughs from different views.

This will give you a good idea of how to hit the stroke.

This is assuming you don't have access to a coach which would be the best thing. Don't learn bad strokes that you will have to fix later. (I know this from experience.)

 

[Bungalo Bill]

Hey guys!

Please.. i would be glad if you all gave me a response, especially marius, rickson and bunga since they've helped me a lot.. got a problem at this moment!

I know how to do the one hander on the back hand side, know the rules and techniques but i'm in a little crises at the moment. I'm using the same swing pattern as i do for my forehand and that's not good, because i use SW grip. I want to make a drive backhand at my the height of my knee, and automatically i'm trying to drive it as my forehand. it goes into the net, i don't have that much angle my eastern grip? Then i try to make my follow through more going upwards, and then they go sky high. I want to drive my strokes, flatten them out. Do you have any tips for making one handed back hand more safe and drived?
thanks!

Yes, I do. Quit focusing so much on your arm and focus more on the legs. Drive with your legs and snap the hip into your shot. This allows the arm to rise naturally through the shot. You should be able to use the legs to provide some lift in your shots.

Try and use a stroke the ends up out more to the target. Aim to hit the ball on the lower half of your racquet and lengthen your stroke. You will cream it.

I didnt quite understand your "same" as the forehand. You might have to describe more about what you mean there.

But for a onehanded backhand drive you want to hit a bit higher in the strike zone, and drive with your step toward the ball (push off with the backfoot) and lengthen your stroke going low to high out to the target.

You can use the chair drill if you want to learn how the legs can help you in your stroke.

 

[Mattle]

Yes, I do. Quit focusing so much on your arm and focus more on the legs. Drive with your legs and snap the hip into your shot. This allows the arm to rise naturally through the shot. You should be able to use the legs to provide some lift in your shots.

Try and use a stroke the ends up out more to the target. Aim to hit the ball on the lower half of your racquet and lengthen your stroke. You will cream it.

I didnt quite understand your "same" as the forehand. You might have to describe more about what you mean there.

But for a onehanded backhand drive you want to hit a bit higher in the strike zone, and drive with your step toward the ball (push off with the backfoot) and lengthen your stroke going low to high out to the target.

You can use the chair drill if you want to learn how the legs can help you in your stroke.

I mean.. my forehand stroke is based on: taking it below waist: hit slightly under ball, motion like flat. For higher balls: Go ON the ball and flatten it out ( still top spin) You can't do that with a Eastern one handed back hand, only extreme forehand grips like SW eastern.

 

[Rickson]

Hey guys!

Please.. i would be glad if you all gave me a response, especially marius, rickson and bunga since they've helped me a lot.. got a problem at this moment!

I know how to do the one hander on the back hand side, know the rules and techniques but i'm in a little crises at the moment. I'm using the same swing pattern as i do for my forehand and that's not good, because i use SW grip. I want to make a drive backhand at my the height of my knee, and automatically i'm trying to drive it as my forehand. it goes into the net, i don't have that much angle my eastern grip? Then i try to make my follow through more going upwards, and then they go sky high. I want to drive my strokes, flatten them out. Do you have any tips for making one handed back hand more safe and drived?
thanks!

Try a slightly more open grip such as the continental when you receive low balls. The extreme eastern backhand grip is kind of like the western forehand grip in that it's difficult to handle low balls with it, but if you open up a little bit, low balls should be no problem.

 

[pham4313]

also try to finish follow-through upward more instead of to the side

 

[Bungalo Bill]

I mean.. my forehand stroke is based on: taking it below waist: hit slightly under ball, motion like flat. For higher balls: Go ON the ball and flatten it out ( still top spin) You can't do that with a Eastern one handed back hand, only extreme forehand grips like SW eastern.

Well on balls outside of the strike zone I dont recommend hitting the ball with a certain motion that increases your chance for error. If it is low, develop your slice. If it is high, you will have to decide to flatten it out or slice it back. Anything between the mid thigh and ribs - cream it. It could simply be your shot selection (trying to do too much with one shot).

If you are using an extreme grip, a ball at the knees is out of the strike zone. Lots of forearm rotation will have to be performed which increases your chance for error especially if the ball skids on you (presenting timing issues).