People need to lay off Nick

citybert

Hall of Fame
Its getting ridiculous. All the guy said were some words in his head who people dont even know are true or not. Every player does this Im sure. You dont think serena has in her head when she plays maria thinking she had grigor first or that sharapova gets 2x her endorsement money with half the results? It motivates the player maybe not the best way to do so but NK just let it out by mistake.

Other sports guys get DUIs, domestic violence, even murder and are allowed back and even dominate their sports and completely rehab their image. Plus there is tons of trash talking in other sports this probably happens all the time.

Should he be punished? Yes but after that people need to let it go and everyone deserves a second chance.
 

RalphJ

Banned
Yeah, people are making a big deal about it, but that's what happen when you say something on an open mic for all the world to hear. No one knew anything about it until he blabbed it out. Then it had to be dealt with.
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
He aired a young woman's dirty laundry for the world to hear. If he wanted to talk trash he should have kept it to Wawrinka.
it was not intentional not like he called a press conference. plus freedom of speech but yes ATP is free to do whatever they want they are not the law. just hurting themselves if they go too far. and NK has already suffered in court of public opinion. it was clearly in his head when he played isner. and it will hurt any short term endorsement chances of course. hopefully NY gives him a warm welcome
 

racquetreligion

Hall of Fame
whats worse is Stan tanked the match after verbal spatter from his end as well while NK was serving
Stan mocked NK for tanking a game vs gasquet yet Stan throws in the towel with the same excuse
Federer used for himself and its so obvious Stan is faking and crying to the powers that be.

When asked about comments he made earlier in the week that the French were talking too much about Davis Cup, Wawrinka replied, "Everyone does the way they want to do. In the end we spoke with our racquet on the court. That is the explanation of the result. We were better during this weekend. We saw how fast things could turn around. In the beginning of the week many things were written about me and Roger, Roger's back. The French team said they were ready to go to war, if I can quote them. What happened was totally the opposite." - See more at: http://www.tennisnow.com/News/2014/...to-Face-With-French.aspx#sthash.WYiO4zGR.dpuf

Mirka was right, ATP is a joke and all this garbage over a few words is just what the elite want
to distract the masses with more BS and conflict.

The real loss is not having to see a battle royale on the tennis court with a grown man throwing in the towel
then finding what Nick said and using the media and ATP like a drama queen when they are both equally to blame
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
He aired a young woman's dirty laundry for the world to hear. If he wanted to talk trash he should have kept it to Wawrinka.

Cmon. Why does Stan care what Kyrgios say about some young lady ?

Stan is fighting for the young woman's pride or because that was the truth and he was shamed?
 

reaper

Legend
what else has he done thats been reported that hes been fined or suspended for. being flashy and cocky on court does not count. many players do that. connors, younger agassi, etc

He's repeatedly been abusive towards officials. Going back to the USO last year he's continually saying "I don't want to be here," "Why am I playing?" etc. If he doesn't want to play....retire. He's constantly faking on court injury on court to give himself an excuse when he loses. He's dishonest, such as when he lied at the press conference by saying he didn't tank a game against Gasquet. He's disdainful in his dealings with people. He's half hearted in many of his efforts, including in the team situation of the Davis Cup tie in Darwin, so much so that he had to be stood down from the reverse singles. Now in his first tournament back after that debacle he's using the sex life of a third party publicly to try and disrupt his opponent. He does all this, while decrying the lack of respect with which he's treated. The guy gets treated with considerably more respect than he deserves, and certainly more than he affords others.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
what's ridiculous are the # of threads on it !! defend the kreep in one of the other dozen floating about
Yeah it is getting a bit ridiculous. People keep starting new threads with information that's already posted to the other threads. Or people just posting their own personal opinions that could also easily be posted to one of the other threads.

He's had multiple chances already. And again...Nick's not just letting this stuff slip out my mistake. He made MULTIPLE comments about Stan and his girlfriend. Who knows what else he said that maybe mics didn't pick up... Other people are also going to list his other offenses. Every match he plays he picks something to complain about or someone to harass. The only thing that's going to stop this kind of behavior is a substantial fine or a suspension. I wouldn't have a problem with him being suspended for rest of the hardcourt swing (cinci + us open). I'm also kind of hoping Yonex drops him.
 

citybert

Hall of Fame
Don't worry tonights
He's repeatedly been abusive towards officials. Going back to the USO last year he's continually saying "I don't want to be here," "Why am I playing?" etc. If he doesn't want to play....retire. He's constantly faking on court injury on court to give himself an excuse when he loses. He's dishonest, such as when he lied at the press conference by saying he didn't tank a game against Gasquet. He's disdainful in his dealings with people. He's half hearted in many of his efforts, including in the team situation of the Davis Cup tie in Darwin, so much so that he had to be stood down from the reverse singles. Now in his first tournament back after that debacle he's using the sex life of a third party publicly to try and disrupt his opponent. He does all this, while decrying the lack of respect with which he's treated. The guy gets treated with considerably more respect than he deserves, and certainly more than he affords others.
fair enough but all those things mentioned our beloved big four have all done. yes not one guy but they all do that.
 

reaper

Legend
fair enough but all those things mentioned our beloved big four have all done. yes not one guy but they all do that.

Kyrgios was pretty much a national hero in Australia when he beat Nadal at Wimbledon as a talented but still quite obscure young player. In the time since then, I don't think he's had a single instance where he's done anything other than alienate people. I don't remember any athlete being regarded with the universal
open contempt that Kyrgios is regarded with in Australia. He has no friends in the media and just as many among the public.
 

HipRotation

Hall of Fame
LEAVE KYRGIOS ALONE
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Sorry for being so 2007
 

Tcbtennis

Hall of Fame
it was not intentional not like he called a press conference. plus freedom of speech but yes ATP is free to do whatever they want they are not the law. just hurting themselves if they go too far. and NK has already suffered in court of public opinion. it was clearly in his head when he played isner. and it will hurt any short term endorsement chances of course. hopefully NY gives him a warm welcome

Actually it was intentional because he actually said it. It's not as though he has Tourette's syndrome and has no control over the words that come from his mouth. He has a very poor filter. I'm sure a lot of players think a whole lot crap but have enough control to keep it in their heads. What you seem to downplay or do not get is that Kyrios's biggest crime is that he threw one his best friends and young woman's private matter (who even knows if it's true) out for the world to hear. And he used the woman's sexuality as a commodity just for spite. It was all so childish. He deserves a fine, he deserves a suspension (a few months, maybe) and he deserves the ridicule. He needs to tell his brother to shut the hell up and back away from the computer. Kyrios is an a s s hat but is not beyond redemption. He absolutely deserves another chance. I hope that he learns from this.
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
He aired a young woman's dirty laundry for the world to hear. If he wanted to talk trash he should have kept it to Wawrinka.

Hey in this super PC world we live in, he is also airing a young man's dirty laundry too!

Where is all the indignation at Kokkinakis' implied embarrassment and shame!?
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Hey in this super PC world we live in, he is also airing a young man's dirty laundry too!

Where is all the indignation at Kokkinakis' implied embarrassment and shame!?

There are different standards for young men and women unfortunately. Kokkinakis was wronged, perhaps worse in a way as they're friends but the Kokk will get much less judgement.
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
You are not really smart and probably have not worked on wall street or the banks or the insurance industries. I will let you slide lunatic.

So you have and think you deserve imprisonment then!?
 
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Deleted member 733170

Guest
There are different standards for young men and women unfortunately. Kokkinakis was wronged, perhaps worse in a way as they're friends but the Kokk will get much less judgement.

Just pulling your leg!

But there is still a small grain of truth in what I said.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
it was not intentional not like he called a press conference. plus freedom of speech but yes ATP is free to do whatever they want they are not the law. just hurting themselves if they go too far. and NK has already suffered in court of public opinion. it was clearly in his head when he played isner. and it will hurt any short term endorsement chances of course. hopefully NY gives him a warm welcome

EXACTLY!

unlike what Sharapova did calling out Serena and her 'relationship' with her still married coach...

which I didn't have a problem with btw, but there was hardly any hate reaction towards Maria because of it...
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
You'll know when someone talks about your daughter/wife like that on live television.

Some folks like WhiskeyEE were upset when Stan won FO just because he had just left his wife and kid.

I was one of the few who came in support of Stan then saying that his personal affairs are none of our business.

If Stan cannot take sledging , then he is not as strong as he portrays. And especially in this case, Kyrgios perhaps spoke only the truth.

You fine Kyrgios for obscenity, but the matter should end there. It looks like Stan has solid backers in the council and poor Nick is being attacked much more than warranted
 

Deanjam

Professional
I don't think Nick will get much more punishment. I think this is just a threat from the ATP to watch his future conduct. If he's a good boy they'll let him be.
 
and lets see what happens when your teenage daughter brings home a 31 year old who left his wife and kid :rolleyes:

13 years is barely any age gap.
Plus most 18-year-old females don't find 18-year-old men to be manly enough, so no surprise if they want 30-year-old instead.
And if Wawrinka and his wife don't get along then of course he'd live her (that's how most marriages go).
 

Tcbtennis

Hall of Fame
and lets see what happens when your teenage daughter brings home a 31 year old who left his wife and kid :rolleyes:

I have an 18 year daughter. If she came home with a 30 year old guy separated from his wife and with a child I'd be absolutely livid. There would be a lot of screaming and crying and begging. And if she made the decision to stay with him what could I do? I can't call the police. I wouldn't disown her. I can only hope that he treats her with the respect and love I believe she deserves. I'd be there for her hoping for the day it all falls apart. But maybe it won't. Regardless of how distasteful I would find their relationship I would have more anger for the idiot Kyrios who decided on his own to throw my daughter's private business out there for all to hear.
 

newpball

Legend
Its getting ridiculous. All the guy said were some words in his head who people dont even know are true or not.
The folks most upset are probably those baby boomers who were in they heydays promiscuous, stoned and drunk (probably all at the same time) proclaiming "love" and "peace".

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Now they already go taliballistic "stone him!" when someone suggest two people might have had sex.

:D
 

encylopedia

Professional
Actually it was intentional because he actually said it. It's not as though he has Tourette's syndrome and has no control over the words that come from his mouth. He has a very poor filter. I'm sure a lot of players think a whole lot crap but have enough control to keep it in their heads. What you seem to downplay or do not get is that Kyrios's biggest crime is that he threw one his best friends and young woman's private matter (who even knows if it's true) out for the world to hear. And he used the woman's sexuality as a commodity just for spite. It was all so childish. He deserves a fine, he deserves a suspension (a few months, maybe) and he deserves the ridicule. He needs to tell his brother to shut the hell up and back away from the computer. Kyrios is an a s s hat but is not beyond redemption. He absolutely deserves another chance. I hope that he learns from this.

Well his family's behavior speaks to the poor environment he was raised in. That is in no way an excuse but it verifies to me that this probably isn't an act...he's just a first-class dbag.

These objections are of course silly - various red-herrings and strawmen.

It makes no difference if it's "true". That isn't the issue whatsoever - failure to understand seems to be one of the major issues in this thread.

Freedom of speech also is not at issue - Krygios WAS free to say it - now he must accept the consequences. It's probably a bit unfortunate he didn't have more responsible parents - or in lieu of that, grew up in the team environment of other sports vs. the sheltered junior tennis bubble superstar he experienced. For example in junior hockey, even if no official action were taken, there would be a socialization process - he would have received quite a few punches until he learned one way or another that saying such things carry consequences. Most people encounter this somewhere and I'm sure for example, most on this forum have. The fact is, Krygios did it because he believes there will be no significant consequences - he is counting on other people being mature enough to absorb his infantile behavior - I will GUARANTEE YOU, put Krygios in say....a biker bar...would he be saying that about a biker's girlfriend? LOL. No?? What happened to the bad-boy telling it like it is? He'd be quiet as a church mouse hiding in the corner.....he's actually COUNTING on this being public to help protect him....run the mouth in front of everyone - it's actually far safer for him. Everyone knows about it, everyone will be watching Wawrinka, if he does anything he gets drawn in, now he's a bad guy too - and oh, see, Krygios was right to insult such a violent guy..... people won't even focus on the original insult, just the fight after....

It is time for the spoiled boy to start learning a few lessons. This behavior will gain him a few immature fans in the teen-rebellion mindset, but it's an embarrassment to the sport, to mature fans, and to the other players. The tour has every right to suspend him, and I think it would probably be good for him and his future success in life, were they to do so now.
 

Gemini

Hall of Fame
EXACTLY!

unlike what Sharapova did calling out Serena and her 'relationship' with her still married coach...

which I didn't have a problem with btw, but there was hardly any hate reaction towards Maria because of it...

That's because Maria's response was in retaliation to Serena's comment about her (Sharapova) dating a guy with a black heart. Serena alluding to Dimitrov.

I'm not a Sharapova supporter. I don't even really like her, but she had every right to call Serena out given that Serena struck the first blow. And that is why I suspect there was no hate reaction to Sharapova's comments. Kyrgios's attacks are simply malicious and this recent incident seems unprovoked from Stan's end of things. Kyrgios dragged four people into this situation when he should have left it between just him and Stan.
 

Tcbtennis

Hall of Fame
Stan is the savior for womanhood ?

For me Kyrios's transgression has absolutely nothing to do with Stan. So Stan isn't the savior of anything. It has to do with Kyrios's disregard for the privacy of Kokkinakis and Vekic. Kyrios was pissed with Stan so he decides that to get back at him he is going to use Vekic's sexuality as a trump card. He had no care for what Kokkinakis probably told him in confidence. He had no care for publicly trying to insinuate that Vekic has "loose" morals. What he did was ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised to hear this happening with a bunch of 15 year old boys but unfortunately for all involved it wasn't a 15 year old. It was a 20 year old man on a televised professional tennis tournament.
 
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