Pro's Pro Strings!?

albertobra

albertobra

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1HBHfanatic said:
i tried a few round polys, similar
pp.plus power
pp.vendetta
pp.nano.vendetta
and of course pp.red.devil
all pretty comfortable and cool colors
as for a black round poly
i choose to go with pp.black.force
i put 17g pp.blackout mains and 18g pp.blackforce crosses

can you compare pp.CP to any other pp.round poly?? what you liked, what you didnt like, etc..
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Where can I get pp. vendetta? Not the Nano Vendetta. The Nano vesion has some controversial reviewes, while I have read good things of the Vendetta. And some 'older' strigers also told me that pp. Vendetta was quite used by younger players that were looking for an durable and efficient poly string.
 
albertobra

albertobra

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1HBHfanatic said:
@albertobra
my experience, kinda obvious I guess?!?, 16g pp.red devil does not stretch as much as the 17g or thinner offerings, and still feels good,,
the pp.polys are feel good polys, they do stretch, but most are very good for the $5 price tag
the pp.synthetics are pretty good, no bad surprices imo/ime
the pp.multis are a let down,, especially since now we have other cheaper "slightly better", alternatives out there, bear the $5-$8 price range

my advise, when buying cheaper stuff,, always test yourself with a single pack, before you comit to a reel
good luck with your future testing
include some of your own feedback here on the pros pro strings..
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Ordered the 1.19 pp. Red Devil, after the good success of the 1.24. Probably too thin to think in durability, but should be even better in control, confort and power.
 
Muppet

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Black Force 1.14 again, or Hex Power 1.24 this time? BF is a very good main string in my 18x20 racquets and full bed in the Aerogel 200. I like the fact that BF is on the crisp side for a poly, but still feels a bit dead. I don't know enough about Hex Power yet. Is it more muted and how much so? I like the fact that it's hexagonal, so it might make a good main string in either a poly/multi, poly/sg, or poly/poly hybrid. I also have Red Devil 1.19 on my radar. It works well as a full bed in my MuscleWeave 95s and as a cross string in my Biomimetic 200. But I mainly like a black poly and I'm intrigued by Hex Power. And the Bio200 likes a little thicker string in the crosses. That's why Hex Power 1.24. Lastly, is it similar to how Volkl V-Torque was? Please give me any recommendation or comparisons you can.

Much appreciated
 
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1HBHfanatic

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albertobra said:
Where can I get pp. vendetta? Not the Nano Vendetta. The Nano vesion has some controversial reviewes, while I have read good things of the Vendetta. And some 'older' strigers also told me that pp. Vendetta was quite used by younger players that were looking for an durable and efficient poly string.
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if its no longer available through their website, I don't know
you try writing email to them??
I personally like nano vendetta over vendetta anyway
anyway, good luck with your search
 
liftordie

liftordie

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Who tried Intense Heat and Interceptor as a cross with a shaped poly main?
What is the slickest with better snapback?
Thank you
 
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ron schaap

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Christian Andersson said:
7 hours now in my Pure Strikes with Pro's Pro Eruption. It is still holding up and still plays well for me. Snapback is better than with Hyper G at this point. Maybe it does not have as sharp edges as Hyper G.
So for me it does seem to do as well as Hyper G in durability. And I am very happy with how it plays. So in my opinion I highly recommend to try it!
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Which gauges at what tension are you comparing? Have you compared Eruption with other profiled Pro Pro's strings too?
 
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ron schaap

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liftordie said:
Who tried Intense Heat and Interceptor as a cross with a shaped poly main?
What is the slickest with better snapback?
Thank you
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Intense heat is slick and soft when not strung too tight, however loses tension quite fast. Pro pros plus power is better as a cross i think. Have you compared Grapplesnake, that you seem to use and which receive positive reviews with profiled Pro pros strings?
 
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ron schaap

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1HBHfanatic said:
if its no longer available through their website, I don't know
you try writing email to them??
I personally like nano vendetta over vendetta anyway
anyway, good luck with your search
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Some reviewers cant find any differences. What are the differences according to you?
 
liftordie

liftordie

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ron schaap said:
Intense heat is slick and soft when not strung too tight, however loses tension quite fast. Pro pros plus power is better as a cross i think. Have you compared Grapplesnake, that you seem to use and which receive positive reviews with profiled Pro pros strings?
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Never used Pro's Pro strings except Synthetic Gut... I ordered a set of Eruption 1.24 to compare with X-perience, by curiosity.
But now I'm playing with Grapplesnake CES/Liquid Neon Dust hybrid and I love it so much!!!
I will soon try to crossed CES with Pro Red Code Wax 18 to see if the snapback could increase.
 
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Christian Andersson

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ron schaap said:
Which gauges at what tension are you comparing? Have you compared Eruption with other profiled Pro Pro's strings too?
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I use 1,24. (Used 1,25 hyper g before) Played Blackout, Stratagem 8 and a bunch of others that are not shaped. Like this one most out of all tried. I string my weighted up PS Teams at 50lbs on a CP machine.
 
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Christian Andersson

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After 9 played hours now Eruption started to feel dead and a clear loss in playability.
Had Blackout in my other frame with 3-4 hours in it, same reference tension. BO feels a bit stiffer, and lower powered in my opinion to give some sort of comparison.
 
1HBHfanatic

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1HBHfanatic said:
You peaked my curiosity,
soo... today I played side by side pp.vendetta, and pp.vendetta.nano
Both on similar rakets. Wil.blade.98 16/19
both strung @44lbs, both 1.25mm 17g
pp.vendetta army green color
pp.vendetta.nano silver color

while stringing, both felt same, stiff, polys, but pp.vendetta had a bit more friction,, squeeked abit while fanning.. no squueking from the nano version.

while playing, diff. is notisable right away
pp.vendetta is crisper
pp.vendetta.nano, softer, but crisp also, surpricing good control, comfortable

it was a bit of a windy day, balls could have gone stray, but both these string sent the ball pretty much where I was sending them,, no big notisable directional issues
I do like softer string, so pp.vendetta.nano gets my vote today,,
Although ppl who like babo.rpm would find the crispness pp.vendetta surprisingly similar,, just my opinion..
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@ron schaap
here, I reviewed these 2 strings a while back
 
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ron schaap

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1HBHfanatic said:
@ron schaap
here, I reviewed these 2 strings a while back
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Tnx.
I thought both are marketed as soft, but you find them crisp? Was there difference in spin potential or power?
I like indeed Rpm blast, but it is expensive. I like its feel, control and sufficient power. I do not find it crisp, not even at 25kg tension.
 
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1HBHfanatic

1HBHfanatic

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ron schaap said:
Tnx.
I thought both are marketed as soft, but you find them crisp? Was there difference in spin potential or power?
I like indeed Rpm blast, but it is expensive. I like its feel, control and sufficient power. I do not find it crisp, not even at 25kg tension.
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the feel is gonna be my own; im sure youll "feel", differently,,
as for the spin,, both are round polys, so its gonna be very close
comparing these 2 PP string to rpm.blast is not ideal, rpm being a 6 sided poly
I can however compare rpm to pp.strategem; both same shape and feel is almost identical
 
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Christian Andersson

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ron schaap said:
Tnx.
I thought both are marketed as soft, but you find them crisp? Was there difference in spin potential or power?
I like indeed Rpm blast, but it is expensive. I like its feel, control and sufficient power. I do not find it crisp, not even at 25kg tension.
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I guess crisp is not equals to stiff. More a description of feel in response. A syn gut is crisp but soft. I have a reel of the original Vendetta. It is softer to me also though than rpm.

Most close to RPM is Stratagem 8 in my opinion. It is shaped, lower powered, very stiff and provides good spin.
 
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albertobra

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Pro's Pro Cyber Spin 1.30 full on my PS97. 48 LBS 2 knots.
1 hour of heavy hitting session with my coach this morning. Loved it. Didn't find any let dows. Control, direction and spin very good.
I usually cut the measure of 14 raquets and an oval to string 2 knots. I could have cutted 20 cm less, this means that the string stretches a bit (not much), and this gave the sensation of good power as well. Power is so good that I am thinking to go 50 lbs next stringing.
The question is now, how long will it last? It's 1.30, so it's pretty thick.
Stringforum gives a decent classification on durability. For the price, that wouldn't be bad at all.
Other question is impact on arm. I do have a shoulder problem ( I learned to live with it) and did 'feel' at and of the session, though nothing remarkable, or different with any othe string.


https://www.stringforum.net/stringdb.php?show=832&count=1


cyberspin.jpg
 
1HBHfanatic

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@Christian Andersson
@2ndServe
I tried 3 gauges of the pp.red.devil
18, 17, 16, I carry a reel of 17g, but always think I should get a 16g as well,,
as you can summize, then thinner you go, the more it stretches
too much stretch is not good imo, leads to unforeseen breaking and durability will suffer
16g did not stretch too much, just right I tought
even at 16g though, I like the playability of it,
might be an issue with dense pattern racquets
 
albertobra

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I tried Red Devil 17, and liked the playability. Of course if issue is durability you should avoid 18. True, the string stretches, and that is what makes it a good powered string. In the case of 18, I'd go with a couple lbs more of what you were used with 17.

1HBHfanatic said:
@Christian Andersson
@2ndServe
I tried 3 gauges of the pp.red.devil
18, 17, 16, I carry a reel of 17g, but always think I should get a 16g as well,,
as you can summize, then thinner you go, the more it stretches
too much stretch is not good imo, leads to unforeseen breaking and durability will suffer
16g did not stretch too much, just right I tought
even at 16g though, I like the playability of it,
might be an issue with dense pattern racquets
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1HBHfanatic said:
@Christian Andersson
@2ndServe
I tried 3 gauges of the pp.red.devil
18, 17, 16, I carry a reel of 17g, but always think I should get a 16g as well,,
as you can summize, then thinner you go, the more it stretches
too much stretch is not good imo, leads to unforeseen breaking and durability will suffer
16g did not stretch too much, just right I tought
even at 16g though, I like the playability of it,
might be an issue with dense pattern racquets
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Thanks I'm using the 18g 1.14 so that's probably why it has so springy and the blackout I'm using 1.24 but I think blackout is more control oriented anyways?
 
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lucieisland

Semi-Pro
loosegroove said:
Any more input on the Eruption? My interested is piqued.
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I tried .. but I ordered 2 sets, the stringer broke the first by putting the string, the second broke on a damaged bumper in an off-center ball, during the 30 minutes I felt enough interesting, not far from X-perience, but I can not give me more than that, and $ 20 shipping, I do not know if I still want to bring it. so, I expect other comments as well.
 
loosegroove

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lucieisland said:
I tried .. but I ordered 2 sets, the stringer broke the first by putting the string, the second broke on a damaged bumper in an off-center ball, during the 30 minutes I felt enough interesting, not far from X-perience, but I can not give me more than that, and $ 20 shipping, I do not know if I still want to bring it. so, I expect other comments as well.
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$20 shipping? Where are you located?
 
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lucieisland

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reunion island, on all shop (except one, but no sale pro's pro) shiping cost are 15€, and for two, it's over 17-18€, for two set it's a little bit expensive, no?
 
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ron schaap

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albertobra said:
Pro's Pro Cyber Spin 1.30 full on my PS97. 48 LBS 2 knots.
1 hour of heavy hitting session with my coach this morning. Loved it. Didn't find any let dows. Control, direction and spin very good.
I usually cut the measure of 14 raquets and an oval to string 2 knots. I could have cutted 20 cm less, this means that the string stretches a bit (not much), and this gave the sensation of good power as well. Power is so good that I am thinking to go 50 lbs next stringing.
The question is now, how long will it last? It's 1.30, so it's pretty thick.
Stringforum gives a decent classification on durability. For the price, that wouldn't be bad at all.
Other question is impact on arm. I do have a shoulder problem ( I learned to live with it) and did 'feel' at and of the session, though nothing remarkable, or different with any othe string.


https://www.stringforum.net/stringdb.php?show=832&count=1


cyberspin.jpg
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Could you compare this string to other Pros pro strings as it is the most expensive of their offerings? Does it is more spinfriendly then say Concept or blackout?
 
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Christian Andersson

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liftordie said:
@Christian Andersson
Eruption 1.24 same control than Hyper-G 1.25? Same spin too?
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I had no problem switching them in between and adjust to play with Eruption. I think Hyper G might have a tad more control and spin. While Eruption has a bit more power and feel.
But do not take this for granted. But it is what I have felt. But the differences has been very small and I could switch from Hyper G to Eruption at the same tension and play without any major difference. Compared to if I switch between Hyper G to Blackout, which are more different to me.
 
liftordie

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Christian Andersson said:
I had no problem switching them in between and adjust to play with Eruption. I think Hyper G might have a tad more control and spin. While Eruption has a bit more power and feel.
But do not take this for granted. But it is what I have felt. But the differences has been very small and I could switch from Hyper G to Eruption at the same tension and play without any major difference. Compared to if I switch between Hyper G to Blackout, which are more different to me.
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Same or similar tension maintenance and playability duration between Hyper-G and Eruption?
 
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Christian Andersson

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liftordie said:
Same tension maintenance and playability duration between Hyper-G and Eruption?
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I got about 9 good hours out of Eruption. Did not notice any major tension loss during this time, and better snapback than Hyper G. But when it did "die" it died more noticeably than Hyper G that remains decent playable. I do restring Hyper G also at about 10 hours normally. This may of course vary a lot frame to frame, player for player. I hit with good topspin, but I would probably not break any poly until 20+ hours in 1.25 gauge.
 
albertobra

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ron schaap said:
Could you compare this string to other Pros pro strings as it is the most expensive of their offerings? Does it is more spinfriendly then say Concept or blackout?
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Hi Ron. I do have both those strings you say. Read really good things about Concept and Black Out, but didn't have time to test them yet. After about 12 hours of use I cut out Cyber Spin and strung Eruption now to test. I am going to test Concept and BO next:giggle:.
Cyber Spin behaved very well on distance, and kept stability. It did go a bit dead at the end becoming a bit bouncy and less controllable, But that was expected. Over all surprising string, powerfull (good for who is looking after power with controll), excelent bite on the ball, stable. I wouldn't mind to string it at 50-52 lbs next time, Actually I think it would be ideal.

As for Eruption, I orderd supposedly on the Racquetdepot website the hexagonal string, but to my surprise it arrived completely round and completely slick to touch. Even the picture on the reel, which is supposedly an hexagonal cut (as showed on RD website), is actually completely round.
 
liftordie

liftordie

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albertobra said:
As for Eruption, I orderd supposedly on the Racquetdepot website the hexagonal string, but to my surprise it arrived completely round and completely slick to touch. Even the picture on the reel, which is supposedly an hexagonal cut (as showed on RD website), is actually completely round.
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:oops:
I also bought a set of Eruption at Racquetdepot and the string is not round...
 
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