Pro's Pro Strings!?

[speedysteve]

Red Devil is good string. Don't hesitate to settle with it if you like it. I use it for a cross string (1.19mm) with sg 1.25 mains.

After reading what's in this thread about Red Devil, I got a pack and tried it.
Klip Legend Gut mains at 50lb
Red Devil 1.24mm crosses at 40lb.
Prestretched by 1st pull held for 10secs - partial release and pull again and lock off.

It was very pleasant to hit with.
Good pocketing, spin and power.
It still has enough of that poly control I like.
At the price of a reel here (UK) I don't care if it only lasts 5 hours, but I reckon it will go further than that as others have written.
Time will tell.

Arm feels fine with it, so far.

 

[albertobra]

After reading what's in this thread about Red Devil, I got a pack and tried it.
Klip Legend Gut mains at 50lb
Red Devil 1.24mm crosses at 40lb.
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I was told that you should't pass 5lbs (2kgs) from mains to crosses with the risk of frame deformation....

 

[Muppet]

After reading what's in this thread about Red Devil, I got a pack and tried it.
Klip Legend Gut mains at 50lb
Red Devil 1.24mm crosses at 40lb.
Prestretched by 1st pull held for 10secs - partial release and pull again and lock off.

It was very pleasant to hit with.
Good pocketing, spin and power.
It still has enough of that poly control I like.
At the price of a reel here (UK) I don't care if it only lasts 5 hours, but I reckon it will go further than that as others have written.
Time will tell.

Arm feels fine with it, so far.

If you're using Pro's Pro as a cross with gut, I'd recommend using the taboo practice of restringing the crosses only at least once. It's pretty easy to do. Just like backing up to the end of stringing the mains and stringing fresh crosses in. Just be sure to flip the racquet so as not to notch the gut mains too much and mount the racquet securely before removing the old crosses. Some people warn against doing this, but most of them have never tried it. I still have some 1.24 RD left in a reel, but I like the 1.19 much better for snap back and less notching/slicker.

 

[1HBHfanatic]

I was told that you should't pass 5lbs (2kgs) from mains to crosses with the risk of frame deformation....

some people don't mind taking that "risk",,
most get away with it, because of the frame contruction and some other considerations
i also think that lower tensions allow for a bit more leway on this tension differences
i do however like staying with in the 5lb personal "rule"..

 

[speedysteve]

The day a frame does something unexpected or breaks I'll let you know..
There are comfortable margins on these things and I'm no Opelka / Groth

In the meantime, nothing to see here

 

[SRUalum]

Concept is much softer (and quite lower quality) than KMP. I have tryed Cyber Spin, which I suppose is a textured version of Cyber Power. Also this one is a softer string, but much better playability (spin direction) than Concept. But still no way comparable with KMP. Probably a closer option would be Plus Power and Nano Plus Power. They are stiffer, not at level of Max Power, but can get the results you are looking at way less $$$.
Set a couple of lbs more of what you are used to with MP.

Thanks!

Would you say the Plus Power or Nano Plus Power have pretty good tension maintenance or playability duration, compared to most polys?

For all - regardless of feel, what Pro’s Pro poly do you think holds tension the longest?

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

For all - regardless of feel, what Pro’s Pro poly do you think holds tension the longest?

Concept (especially 1.33 mm)

 

[speedysteve]

4 hours into my Gut / Red Devil hybrid and it's got better.
Really good pop and spin.
Redirecting power, no problem and the touch stuff or raking backhand slice is fine too.

Wonder what Prince Premier Touch mains and Red Devil crosses might be like for winter set up? Don't care if it doesn't very last long.

Is there a pros pro like Prince Premier Touch I wonder?

 

[1HBHfanatic]

4 ….. Is there a pros pro like Prince Premier Touch I wonder?

nope,, it would be nice though
however, their synthetics are about as good as any other,, with an added bonus of price and color options
for the longest time i used that combo, syn.gut/poly setup, on a w.k.blade.tour (93")

 

[albertobra]

Thanks!

Would you say the Plus Power or Nano Plus Power have pretty good tension maintenance or playability duration, compared to most polys?

For all - regardless of feel, what Pro’s Pro poly do you think holds tension the longest?

You were comparing with Kirschbaum Max Power which has an excelent durability and tension maintenance. Plus power and Nano Plus Power have good tension manteinence. Playability could be an issue. The best is get a couple of sets, they are cheap and you can get a better idea if they suit your game.

 

[lucieisland]

Thanks!

Would you say the Plus Power or Nano Plus Power have pretty good tension maintenance or playability duration, compared to most polys?

For all - regardless of feel, what Pro’s Pro poly do you think holds tension the longest?

for me, if you are loocking for the best tension stability it's because your string don't break a lot. on this conditions, why buying pro's pro? the cost between a yonex poly tour (pro/tough, 5/8$) or signum plasma (5/6$) and pro's pro price (2/3$) not worth it. I had the same logic at one time, I played on steam 99, 15/16 and I often broke, pro's pro was a good solution (power plus 1.18mm) then I went back to head prestige (18/21), I broke much less, and I find playing a plasma or yonex poly tour pro that lasts 14-15h for $ 7 is much better to look for savings with pro's pro, and having to change the string every 6-7h. the PP concept is a great string, but it starts for me to lose performance from 7h, while a weiss scorpion will hold a little more, and will be fine until at least 12 to 14h.

 

[SRUalum]

Thanks for the feedback!

For reference, I’m not a big string breaker per se. I’ve been hitting with a 16/19 pattern strung at a fairly low tension for a bit now w/ 15L synthetic gut mains and poly crosses and typically get about 8-10 hours of hitting time with it before they snap or are so close I cut them out.

As a father of soon to be two and someone who played competitively but realizes this is nothing more than a hobby now, I’m just looking to maximize a playability/performance to cost ratio.

I am actually going to be trying some cheap <$2 nylon in a full bed at some point to see if it plays well enough to live with given my situation.

 

[mike84]

tested

pro eruption full bed yonex dr 98 at 54 pounds.

after 2 hour hit didn't notice any tension drop.

bites pretty good on ball, even thought its hard to tell there is 6 sides to string as they claim. I guess after 6 hours it will probably have no bite.The little bends are really hard to notice on string.

feel is neutral.

comfort is really good.

I am gonna play around with tension a bit.

To see if there is sweet spot.


So far the best comparison from memory is vokl cyclone.


for the price/performance ratio I would say eruption is really good string.

 

[Muppet]

Thanks for the feedback!

For reference, I’m not a big string breaker per se. I’ve been hitting with a 16/19 pattern strung at a fairly low tension for a bit now w/ 15L synthetic gut mains and poly crosses and typically get about 8-10 hours of hitting time with it before they snap or are so close I cut them out.

As a father of soon to be two and someone who played competitively but realizes this is nothing more than a hobby now, I’m just looking to maximize a playability/performance to cost ratio.

I am actually going to be trying some cheap <$2 nylon in a full bed at some point to see if it plays well enough to live with given my situation.

You might like Prince Topspin 15L w/Duraflex or Pro's Pro Topspin.

Pro's Pro Top Spin

BigT Tennis is the exclusive North American distributor for Pro's Pro tennis strings. We carry a huge selection of quality multifilament, synthetic, and polyester tennis strings, all at discount prices.

www.bigttennis.com

 

[ron schaap]

Tried Hyper-G 1.30 crossed with Eruption 1.24 and it plays damn good.
Snapback is awesome!! And it's really crisp and comfy. Really good power and control. Great touch!
Now I will see how much time I can keep that great feeling... I have a reel of each so it could be really economic!!
More info soon...

Arent those two supposed to be equivalent, then maybe you could try hybriding two different gauges of Eruption too for reference?

 

[liftordie]

Arent those two supposed to be equivalent, then maybe you could try hybriding two different gauges of Eruption too for reference?

After hard testing, Hyper-G has much more playability duration, durability, spin and control.
Eruption is good for few hours only and never as good as Hyper-G. That's the reality.

 

[mike84]

After hard testing, Hyper-G has much more playability duration, durability, spin and control.
Eruption is good for few hours only and never as good as Hyper-G. That's the reality.

I played with eruption today again close to 3 hours and it still doing okay. Tension/play feels fine. (~5 hours in so far)

To me Hyper G has edge over eruption on
-softer feel
-control

Spin/durability don't notice any difference.

Speaking of hyper g...going back and forth between hyper g 17 and vokl v torque 17 it was impossible to tell which is which.

 

[liftordie]

I played with eruption today again close to 3 hours and it still doing okay. Tension/play feels fine. (~5 hours in so far)

To me Hyper G has edge over eruption on
-softer feel
-control

Spin/durability don't notice any difference.

I break Eruption 1.24 at 4/5 hours of play. Hyper-G 16 at 12/13.
If you think Eruption is as great as Hyper-G, good for you and your wallet...
But that's just a dream......

 

[joaovitorss]

After hard testing, Hyper-G has much more playability duration, durability, spin and control.
Eruption is good for few hours only and never as good as Hyper-G. That's the reality.

 

[liftordie]

Yes at the first 2 hours of play....... And it was not totally objective.... I was trying to convince me because of the 30€ per reel...
Like you!!!

 

[liftordie]

Eruption is more a cheap version of X-perience. With less spin and slightly more control.
But durability and playability duration are crap. That's why Pro's Pro strings are so inexpensive. Good for poor people with cheap stringing machine in there room or garage... Lol.

 

[albertobra]

Eruption is more a cheap version of X-perience. With less spin and slightly more control.
But durability and playability duration are crap. That's why Pro's Pro strings are so inexpensive. Good for poor people with cheap stringing machine in there room or garage... Lol.

I think we are trying to compare Eruption with Hyper-G (and now X-Perience) beause we are influenced by the fact that they have the same colour

They are different strings in terms of playability. And you have to check out which raquet you are using as well. I wouldn't sugest Eruption on a 16x19 100 frame for example, as you use, acording to your signature. Then we have to see what gauge and at which lbs is your setup.

Personally I like better how the ball gets out of my raquet with Eruption than with Hyper-G. Durability for me is about 6 hours with Eruption, then it goes dead, actualy even the sound changes.

 

[liftordie]

I think we are trying to compare Eruption with Hyper-G (and now X-Perience) beause we are influenced by the fact that they have the same colour

Hehe, for sure... But the very cheap price is the most important part!!!

 

[joaovitorss]

Yes at the first 2 hours of play....... And it was not totally objective.... I was trying to convince me because of the 30€ per reel...
Like you!!!

Yeah, this is also you.

 

[liftordie]

Yeah, this is also you.

Yeah, exactly. I was trying to convince me until I break it after only 5 hours of play...
And just after that, when playing again with Hyper-G, I immediately feel the difference between a cheap string and a well renowned one. That's two different worlds.
But at your level, Eruption is perfect!! Even Pro's Pro Synthetic!!! So cheap..... Hmmmmmmm

 

[Funky Marky]

Guys let’s keep reviewing strings and give good feedback, not eachother pls.

 

[mike84]

I break Eruption 1.24 at 4/5 hours of play. Hyper-G 16 at 12/13.
If you think Eruption is as great as Hyper-G, good for you and your wallet...
But that's just a dream......

If I go out and hit with former college players than I can break hyper g/eruption/alu rough etc in one hitting session.

I can go out and swing hard like Thiem no problem.

But thats not reality, unforced errors start piling up.....

lets be honest if we all hit as hard as he does and it was going in...

We would all be pro atp players. And not posting on this forum...


.................

Also hyper g 16 is 1.30 mm vs eruption 1.24 mm.

When my friend first introduced me to pro pro. Gave me set of black out 17 (1.19 mm) I broke them in 1 hour.

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As for eruption vs hyper g. I never said they are equal.

Hyper g is softer and has better control. That's enough to make it better than eruption.

How much better thats hard to say.

When I start playing with tension with eruption. I can gauge better if its worth to use eruption.

 

[liftordie]

If I go out and hit with former college players than I can break hyper g/eruption/alu rough etc in one hitting session.

I can go out and swing hard like Thiem no problem.

But thats not reality, unforced errors start piling up.....

lets be honest if we all hit as hard as he does and it was going in...

We would all be pro atp players. And not posting on this forum...


.................

Also hyper g 16 is 1.30 mm vs eruption 1.24 mm.

When my friend first introduced me to pro pro. Gave me set of black out 17 (1.19 mm) I broke them in 1 hour.

................

As for eruption vs hyper g. I never said they are equal.

Hyper g is softer and has better control. That's enough to make it better than eruption.

How much better thats hard to say.

When I start playing with tension with eruption. I can gauge better if its worth to use eruption.

I find Eruption to be way much softer than Hyper-G.....

 

[joaovitorss]

If I go out and hit with former college players than I can break hyper g/eruption/alu rough etc in one hitting session.

I can go out and swing hard like Thiem no problem.

But thats not reality, unforced errors start piling up.....

lets be honest if we all hit as hard as he does and it was going in...

We would all be pro atp players. And not posting on this forum...


.................

Also hyper g 16 is 1.30 mm vs eruption 1.24 mm.

When my friend first introduced me to pro pro. Gave me set of black out 17 (1.19 mm) I broke them in 1 hour.

................

As for eruption vs hyper g. I never said they are equal.

Hyper g is softer and has better control. That's enough to make it better than eruption.

How much better thats hard to say.

When I start playing with tension with eruption. I can gauge better if its worth to use eruption.

Great. Keep us updated. I got a reel of Eruption 1.24 coming in.

 

[ron schaap]

Great. Keep us updated. I got a reel of Eruption 1.24 coming in.

I find Eruption to be way much softer than Hyper-G.....

But you seem to compare a 1.24 string to a 1.30 which is much thicker. Thats apples and pears

 

[liftordie]

But you seem to compare a 1.24 string to a 1.30 which is much thicker. Thats apples and pears

I played with near all gauges of Hyper-G.

 

[liftordie]

And just take a set of each at the same gauge in the hand, press it, and you will definitely understand what is the softer......

 

[mike84]

At ~9 hours of play time eruption 1.30 mm (gauge 16) broke down the middle clean.

I had two yonex 98 strung yesterday at 50 pounds and 54 pounds with eruption again..

curious how much tension makes difference.


Before eruption broke last night. I still felt there was not a lot of tension drop and feel was pretty good.

It was not crisp off fresh string job but that goes for any string.

If I figure out some way to mount camera on fence.

Might post video of hitting with eruption. gonna wait till I can hit with someone way better than me, lots of video editing will be needed lol.

One thing I am really liking with eruption second serve kick can be brutal. Against shorter players can get it way above their comfort zone. (I do have bit of natural advantage being taller )

 

[joaovitorss]

At ~9 hours of play time eruption 1.30 mm (gauge 16) broke down the middle clean.

What tension did you originally strung? and what frame?

 

[mike84]

What tension did you originally strung? and what frame?

Yonex DR 98 at 54 pounds... (have 10 grams of lead tape at 9 and 3) ...with two over grips ...total weight 355 grams.

Yesterday got 2 Yonex AI 98 strung (same lead tape and exact same over grips etc total 355 grams) with eruption.

One is at 50 pounds tension and one at 54 pounds tension.

Offtopic....I made mistake not buying 4-5 Ai 98 when they came out (love the frames so much)

So got one DR 98 as backup. Tbh the difference is not noticeable between dr 98 and ai 98.

 

[albertobra]

At ~9 hours of play time eruption 1.30 mm (gauge 16) broke down the middle clean.

I had two yonex 98 strung yesterday at 50 pounds and 54 pounds with eruption again..

curious how much tension makes difference.


Before eruption broke last night. I still felt there was not a lot of tension drop and feel was pretty good.

It was not crisp off fresh string job but that goes for any string.

If I figure out some way to mount camera on fence.

Might post video of hitting with eruption. gonna wait till I can hit with someone way better than me, lots of video editing will be needed lol.

One thing I am really liking with eruption second serve kick can be brutal. Against shorter players can get it way above their comfort zone. (I do have bit of natural advantage being taller )

Finally someone that talks about Eruption 16! Let us know how did 50 lbs play compared with 54 lbs.

 

[liftordie]

At ~9 hours of play time eruption 1.30 mm (gauge 16) broke down the middle clean.

...

 

[styksnstryngs]

I have found my pro's pro grail in my yonex vcore pro 97. It's as good as cyclone when fresh and is still pretty playable after it dies. Ichiban spin 1.21 at 47 pounds. Fairly crisp, spinny, decent control. A good balance for me, the launch angle is easy for me to gel with.

 

[albertobra]

Pro's Pro Hexaspin / Plus Power HYBRID

Interesting on stringform.net. Got and excelent rating due to a few reviews, but perhaps worth testing.

Stringforum.net: Reviews of the Pro's Pro Hexaspin / Plus Power 1.25/1.23

 

[Funky Marky]

In the Netherlands I can buy the following hybrid setup cyberspin-hexmulti via a pro’s pro reseller.

It played very good with decent control and spin and arm friendly. The multi’s durability was of course a bit lower.

However, 2x200 reels for under 100 Euro isn’t a bad deal, and with my own stringer and some spare time not all.

 

[what_army]

Quick question: is there a pros pro string similar to isospeed cream? Thanks

 

[1HBHfanatic]

Quick question: is there a pros pro string similar to isospeed cream? Thanks

I haven't tried cream yet, but based on description of it, its a softer copoly
pp.red.devil is a lively copoly, infact, most round pp.polys are "LIVELY", in comperason to other copolys
going lower in tension will produce a soft string bed

 

[1HBHfanatic]

I have found my pro's pro grail in my yonex vcore pro 97. It's as good as cyclone when fresh and is still pretty playable after it dies. Ichiban spin 1.21 at 47 pounds. Fairly crisp, spinny, decent control. A good balance for me, the launch angle is easy for me to gel with.

agree here, ichiban spin was soft and crisp and it worked well on my 16/20 y.vcore

 

[USPTARF97]

Reviews seem to be all over the place with this string.

 

[speedysteve]

I'm still liking Wilson gut and Pros Pro Red Devil poly in my 16x18 Völkl V sense 8, weighted up to 360g 8pts head light.

Question is, when do I buy a reel?

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[what_army]

I haven't tried cream yet, but based on description of it, its a softer copoly
pp.red.devil is a lively copoly, infact, most round pp.polys are "LIVELY", in comperason to other copolys
going lower in tension will produce a soft string bed

Sorry but red devil is nothing like cream. I was wondering if cream had a counterpart pro’s pro string, not round co-polys.

I wonder if concept could be what I’m looking for, it’s also made in the same 1.28 gauge as cream which is unusual.

Does anyone have experience with both cream and concept and can attest to its playing similitudes?

 

[liftordie]

Sorry but red devil is nothing like cream. I was wondering if cream had a counterpart pro’s pro string, not round co-polys.

I wonder if concept could be what I’m looking for, it’s also made in the same 1.28 gauge as cream which is unusual.

Does anyone have experience with both cream and concept and can attest to its playing similitudes?

There is strictly nothing similar to Cream at Pro's Pro.

 

[what_army]

There is strictly nothing similar to Cream at Pro's Pro.

Thank you

 

[liftordie]

Thank you

My pleasure

 

[esm]

Quick q - has anyone tried hex multi and can give any advise if it is any good.

I have been using Bab addiction 16, Signum Pro Fibrecore and Angell Halo 3

The hex shape looks interesting and would like to know if it is worthwhile trying as it only comes in reel from where I can shop from.

Thanks.