Senseless awards - Serena the player of the year

[Paullaconte1]

These year end awards are something senseless.

The worst of the worst are the ones about the best player of a season...

Of course it has to be the world no.1!

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2014...a-player-year-again-im-really-grateful/53327/

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2014/11/serena-williams-wins-wta-player-of-the-year-award/

 

[Chico]

Why. Novak was the player of the year in 2013 even though he was not YE #1, since Nadal won too many MM clay tournaments.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Why. Novak was the player of the year in 2013 even though he was not YE #1, since Nadal won too many MM clay tournaments.

Actually it was because of his two GS + 5 MS (of which 2 were clay).
Nadal was the best player in 2013. Why is this so hard to admit?

Djokovic was the best player in 2011, 2012, 2014. Isn't that enough?

 

[Chico]

Actually it was because of his two GS + 5 MS (of which 2 were clay).
Nadal was the best player in 2013. Why is this so hard to admit?

Djokovic was the best player in 2011, 2012, 2014. Isn't that enough?

Nothing to admit. Just stating the facts. Novak had much more slam and masters points in 2013 than Nadal and was hence better player.

W + SF (de facto F) + F + F + 3 Masters + WTF + Dubai + Beijing >>>>
N/A + W (undeserved) + 1st round embarrassing exit + W + 5 Masters + MM.

The player who did absolutely nothing in two slams can't be the best player of the year. Just the way it is.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Nothing to admit. Just stating the facts. Novak had much more slam and masters points in 2013 than Nadal and was hence better player.

W + SF (de facto F) + F + F + 3 Masters + WTF + Dubai + Beijing >>>>
N/A + W (undeserved) + 1st round embarrassing exit + W + 5 Masters + MM.

The player who did absolutely nothing in two slams can't be the best player of the year. Just the way it is.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.
What's MM?

 

[PMChambers]

Why. Novak was the player of the year in 2013 even though he was not YE #1, since Nadal won too many MM clay tournaments.

That was different,
Novak won ITF Player of the Year
Nadal won ATP Player of the Year as he finished YE1

Serena won WTA layer of the Year as she finished YE1

I don't think you can win the ATP or WTA unless you finish YE1.

The ITF Players of 2014 has not be released for either Male or Female..

Serena has not won 6 straight ITF,
2008 Jelena Janković
2009 Serena Williams
2010 Caroline Wozniacki
2011 Petra Kvitová
2012 Serena Williams
2013 Serena Williams

The ITF Player of the Year is meant to represent the best player of the year, and weights Majors highly and compares H2H Masters. The aim is to identify the Best Player of the year.

The ATP Player of the Year is meant to represent the current players chances to progress through a tournament, hence, it's for seeding purposes and rates Masters, 500, 250, etc. It does not represent the best player rather a players ability to progress through tournaments with some weighting on their relative importance.

Generally ATP = ITF especially since the 90's.

So the comment

Of course it has to be the world no.1!

is correct for the ATP & WTA rating. And therefore the whole award is just a advertising or celebratory event for ATP or WTA to thank the player for making them money.

 

[PMChambers]

Why. Novak was the player of the year in 2013 even though he was not YE #1, since Nadal won too many MM clay tournaments.

That was different,
Novak won ITF Player of the Year
Nadal won ATP Player of the Year as he finished YE1

Serena won WTA layer of the Year as she finished YE1

I don't think you can win the ATP or WTA unless you finish YE1.

The ITF Players of 2014 has not be released for either Male or Female..

Serena has not won 6 straight ITF,
2008 Jelena Janković
2009 Serena Williams
2010 Caroline Wozniacki
2011 Petra Kvitová
2012 Serena Williams
2013 Serena Williams

The ITF Player of the Year is meant to represent the best player of the year, and weights Majors highly and compares H2H Masters. The aim is to identify the Best Player of the year.

The ATP Player of the Year is meant to represent the current players chances to progress through a tournament, hence, it's for seeding purposes and rates Masters, 500, 250, etc. It does not represent the best player rather a players ability to progress through tournaments with some weighting on their relative importance.

Generally ATP = ITF especially since the 90's.

So the comment

Of course it has to be the world no.1!

is correct for the ATP & WTA rating. And therefore the whole award is just a advertising or celebratory event for ATP or WTA to thank the player for making them money.

PS The ITF woman's PoY seems to be a real mess.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Serena won WTA layer of the Year

Not surprised.
No way would Sharapova have won that considering Dimitrov's results this year.

 

[PMChambers]

Not surprised.
No way would Sharapova have won that considering Dimitrov's results this year.

No, Sharapova lost points on excessive noise and aggressive staring. She's a looker but I got a feeling it would be a lot of hassle for 5 minutes joy.

PS: Sorry about double post, TWF sometime causes issues.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

She's a looker but I got a feeling it would be a lot of hassle for 5 minutes joy.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.

 

[Sentinel]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.
What's MM?

MM = mickey mouse (event)

LOL, I remember how riled Chico was last year when Djoko did not get the #1.
And how riled he was this year when there was talk of Federer overtaking him. "Undeserved #1".

So hilarious !

 

[Deleted member 688153]

MM = mickey mouse (event)

LOL, I remember how riled Chico was last year when Djoko did not get the #1.
And how riled he was this year when there was talk of Federer overtaking him. "Undeserved #1".

So hilarious !

Chico can be funny at times. Bless him.

Would you rather have 20 Wimbledons or 200 Dubais?

 

[MichaelNadal]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.
What's MM?

You just agreed to not be delusional