Stringway new machine

barry

Hall of Fame
It looks pretty neat:

www.stringway.com/movie/em450.wmv


Assume LF and stringway are the same company. Several UK dealers will ship stringway machine to the U.S., I recently purchased a Volkl DNX 9 from the U.K. and the dealer also has stringway machines.

Is the Ml100 the same machine as the Ms 200 TT?
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
barry said:
It looks pretty neat:

www.stringway.com/movie/em450.wmv


Assume LF and stringway are the same company. Several UK dealers will ship stringway machine to the U.S., I recently purchased a Volkl DNX 9 from the U.K. and the dealer also has stringway machines.

Is the Ml100 the same machine as the Ms 200 TT?

Yes, the ML100 is the equiv of the MS200
 

jj300

Semi-Pro
I wish they would string a couple of pulls at least so we can see how much drawback there is on the clamps. Anyone with a LF machine, how is the drawback? One of my friends is currently thinking about one of the machines
 

barry

Hall of Fame
diredesire said:
Yes, the ML100 is the equiv of the MS200

What would be a good price for the ML100 or MS200. What is the difference between the MS200 TT and the MS200 TT DA? Watching the Video, they must use 12 gauge string, it looks awful thick!
 

SC in MA

Professional
barry said:
What is the difference between the MS200 TT and the MS200 TT DA?
I'm guessing that the MS200 TT refers to the table top version of the MS200, without specifying which type of fixed clamps (single action or double action.)

And that the MS200 TT DA is the MS200 table top version with double action fixed clamps.

Just a guess.
 

SC in MA

Professional
jj300 said:
I wish they would string a couple of pulls at least so we can see how much drawback there is on the clamps. Anyone with a LF machine, how is the drawback? One of my friends is currently thinking about one of the machines
My understanding is there is some drawback with both the double action and single action clamps, with a bit more drawback with the single action. However, any drawback is taken up by the next pull so I personally think drawback is a non-issue, though I believe others think it is. This was a hot topic in the past. Do a search for more details.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
SC in MA said:
My understanding is there is some drawback with both the double action and single action clamps, with a bit more drawback with the single action. However, any drawback is taken up by the next pull so I personally think drawback is a non-issue, though I believe others think it is. This was a hot topic in the past. Do a search for more details.

Yep, there is a slight amount of drawback, I think this would be eliminated if the clamp jaw/heads were machined, they look to be cast or something similar. The way they fit onto the base shaft is fairly loose for something that expensive. This is not to say the clamps are not good, IMO they are of excellent quality, but the drawback is noticeable. I don't mind much, though, since as has been said, the drawback is pulled out in the next pull. The only time this will matter is on the last string before tie off.

As far as price, i think anything around $700 is an excellent price. The constant pull (and the consistency of the said constant pull) is simply amazing. It's hard to really understand what one means by it until you've strung with one. I just have the utmost confidence in my machine.

One major gripe (ok, two) i have is/are: Lack of 360 degree rotation (I miss it really, really bad). There have been people who modify their machines to "enable" 360 degree rotation, but i think you have to store the tensioner down, in which case you lose the convenience of the clam shell jaw.

The other gripe i have is that there is no turn table brake. This seems like it would be easy to implement, but sadly enough, there is none. This is almost a requirement to string O3 style racquets... (I don't like the boomerang tool).

Hope this helps.
 

SunDog

Rookie
I own two LF machines. One has DA clamps - one has DA clamps. The drawback is essentially the same - maybe slightly less on the SA clamps. I wouldnt have guessed it until I saw it with my own eyes.

The DX has a break also.
 

barry

Hall of Fame
SunDog said:
I own two LF machines. One has DA clamps - one has DA clamps. The drawback is essentially the same - maybe slightly less on the SA clamps. I wouldnt have guessed it until I saw it with my own eyes.

The DX has a break also.

I assume when you refer to drawback it is the actual clamp moving after you release tension on the tension head. Does it change the overall tension much? Or is it recovered with the next pulled string. To me the only string affected is the last string since you tie it off and have nothing left to pull.
Also do you like the DA clamps better than the SA clamps?
 

eagle

Hall of Fame
I have the LF ECO with DA action clamps and also the flying clamps.

If I were overly concerned with drawback, then I'd stick to the flying clamps since drawback is minimal compared to the fixed clamps from what I've seen.

The flying clamp is secured on two strings vs. one, so it tends to not to move unlike the fixed clamps. The fixed clamps however allow you to string much faster.

So, which one do I prefer? The fixed clamps. :)

r,
eagle
 

SunDog

Rookie
The SA clamps are by far more pleasant to use. Again, I didnt expect too much difference - but I was pleasantly suprised.

I do not have much experience with non-LF machines. All I have to go by is anectdotal information from the folks for whom I string. The consensus is that my machine produces a much tighter stringbed for a given reference tension than what they get from either other home stringers (usinge various other types of machines) or the local tennis store - which uses a Prince 2000.

The last time I had my racquet strung by a retailer was probably around 6 years ago when I was just starting to play tennis - so I have roughly zero first hand comparative experience.
 
It is such a travesty that the MS 200 has been discontinued. It’s the best stringer ever made

Yes the MS200 is an exceptional stringer made to last very long.
It is a pitty that most stringers prefer electronic machines in that price range.

The MS140 is more the equivalent than the ML100 because it is also "spring driven".
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Jerry Snyder

New User
I have the LF ECO with DA action clamps and also the flying clamps.

If I were overly concerned with drawback, then I'd stick to the flying clamps since drawback is minimal compared to the fixed clamps from what I've seen.

The flying clamp is secured on two strings vs. one, so it tends to not to move unlike the fixed clamps. The fixed clamps however allow you to string much faster.

So, which one do I prefer? The fixed clamps. :)

r,
I wish they would string a couple of pulls at least so we can see how much drawback there is on the clamps. Anyone with a LF machine, how is the drawback? One of my friends is currently thinking about one of the machines
I know this an exceptionally old post BUT If the string doesn’t SLIDE in the clamp then there is absolutely NO tension loss It doesn’t matter how much “drawback” there is
 
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